Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - The Weekly Planet Podcast
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- Big week for Spider-Man...s! Spider-Man Across The Spider-Verse, a movie 5 years in the making, is finally here! And in addition to a review of that we talk more writers strike delays, The Rock and Kim Cattrall returns to their most popular series, a new rift is forming the the Fast & Furious family, confirmation of a Miles Morales live action movie, Tom Cruise takes on Christopher Nolan and more! Thanks for listening
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00:00 The Start
04:15 More Writer's Strike Delays
08:59 The Rock Returns to Fast Saga
15:10 Samantha Returns to Sex and the City
18:08 Vin Diesel vs Jason Momoa
23:38 TMNT: Mutant Mayhem Trailer
25:15 Tom Cruise vs Oppenheimer Movie
30:36 Live Action Miles Morales & Spider-Woman Movies
33:20 Harrison Ford's Indiana Jones Press Nightmare
35:34 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse Review (spoilers 55:00 to 01:13:30)
01:13:30 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read
01:19:13 Letters, It's Time For Letters
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Jessica Drew referred to her husband as being a bit corny. I assume that means he's going to be revealed as Corn of Coblin & will be the villain of the 3rd movie.
If everything happens in the multiverse, than this is true at some point
Can confirm this. I've seen the second movie and can back up the idea that the corn of coblin will indeed be the one who kills Mile's dad
lmao I hope the corn of coblin gag never dies
And hot
Like corn on the cob
I like how spider punk quietly reminds Miles to use his palms to do his electric shock move on the cage . I really liked that character.
Found him really annoying when he first showed up, but he rapidly became my favorite spiderman ever lol
@@crashstarr6531 Agreed :)
@@crashstarr6531 oh god yeah, for the first two minutes I _haaaated_ him, and by the end I wanted him to have his own spin-off series 😆 I loved the bit where 2099 did his big speech and punk was just like, yeah I quit 🤣
The character was really fun, and I feel like it honoured a lot of what was beautiful about 70s punks.
He's an anarchist.
I like how this movie basically confirms that it is universal law for every Spider-Person across all of time and space to be sad, lonely, and miserable.
And that every J Jonah Jameson always sounds like JK Simmons
@@MicoDossun facts that’s such a good great detail 😭😭
@@MicoDossun JJJ is a Nexus being.
not universal law, miles is gonna change that
I honestly think it's a cop out. Like the whole point of the multiverse is supposed to be that nothing matters because in the infinite multiverse there will always be a universe where some other thing happened
As a fan of the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, I was thrilled to see him get not only a cameo, but an actual speaking line with his original actor. It was more than I ever expected. If they were gonna do that with an animated Spider-Man, I assumed it would've been the '90s one. I was giddy.
Yeah everyone was freaking out about the live action stuff, but I actually jumped up when I saw him since Disney does not like to acknowledge that show.
The spectacular Spider-Man and the PS5 Spider-Man are both voiced by the same guy
@@zengaisfamous No they're not.
One is Josh Keaton.
The other is Yuri Lowenthal.
the only reason i dont think the 90's spiderman would work is because he never really suffer a sacrifice after uncle ben, at most it was that whole clone thing with mary jane.
it would be funny though, if he was to fight, but never throw a punch because the original cartoon made it so he would never do that in fights.
@@Kango234 I think it's less that they don't want to acknowledge it and more that they can't legally. Sony owns the rights to the show, not Disney/Marvel.
My entire theater sat through the full credits because no one believed the movie was actually over. A bunch of people even asked the employees to make sure it wasn't a trick.
yeah i was avoiding spoilers so had zero idea it was a two parter. But it wasn't just that, the end of the movie is quite jarring, i don't think they wrap up anything so it really doesn't have an 'ending' feel
I knew it was over because of the Guy Who Shouts Rodney. Always a herald of the end, that fellow.
Always ask the employees first
@@gavsterdb they wrapped up Gwen’s arc
There was a power outage at my screening, and it cut right after Miles tells (not) his mom he's Spider-Man
Spiderverse spoiler:
Miles didn't turn invisible because he was luring the spider people away from the back home machine (is that what it's called?). He says something to that effect on that space elevator thing
Can we talk about how James is Australian Jake Johnson. I can't unhear or unthink this forbidden knowledge
I actually pointed this out to my girlfriend a few months ago! It’s uncanny
Ive been listening to this show for like a decade, and the humorous fans in the comments section are proof of how infectious this duo are! Great Mates indeed.
I'm not infected. I got checked, twice. Always make sure you use protection 😉
Some really bold takes on the Snake Eyes review. But really glad you guys got around to reviewing it
Ive never disagreed with them that much before. Ridiculous.
I appreciate the podcast reminding us about the writer's strike. It shouldn't have to be an opinion that writers deserve to get paid a living wage for the entertainment they bring us.
100% - the money people are relying on public apathy to take over (after it generally does when anything has been in the news for more than a couple of weeks), so it's doubly important that those with a platform continue to flag this issue, and I love that these two great mates are doing that.
It is crazy how Lightyear has double the budget of Spiderverse
Are you fucking serious? What an absolute misfire that movie was.
Wait till you see the elemental budget
@@Bcast64 Elemental at least has an unique artstyle
To be fair Pixar budgets are always inflated because they try to innovate their animation while making a movie. For Lightyear it was the animation IMAX camera, however they should just focus on making stories for a bit if it means smaller budgets
The Miles in universe 42 was supposed to become spiderman. He is shown to almost be bitten by the spider before it gets sent to miles' universe
When Across the Spiderverse ended, My 8 year old son asked, “why do we have to live in the universe where Spiderman is fictional?” It was such a great film and Lord and Miller are friggin geniuses. Makes me really want to see their full original version of Solo.
What I find hilarious is the implication that J.K. Simmons is J. Jonah Jameson in EVERY universe
1:05:08 Gwen does reference that first weird dude being made of paper or something. Which, now that you mention how much they mostly *don't* reference the art style differences, stands out as a little extra strange. But maybe he's just so much weirder than everyone else that it's more noticeable in-universe.
They do it a handful of times that I remember - in the first movie, Scorpion mentions that Spider-Ham is "some kind of cartoon" (but seems to think it's more amusing than anything super unusual), then Gwen references paper Vulture, and I think someone calls out Lego universe or Lego spiderman with a specific reference to that style (whereas they don't call Gwen "Pastel Spider-Woman" by comparison). It seems like they mostly accept there are different styles, but occasionally if they see something very out of the ordinary they will call it out.
@@TheDelinear fair enough! I had forgotten someone pointing out spider ham, it's been a while since I saw the first one, but that sounds familiar now you mention it.
56:17 so many people apparently reacted like that but hearing James’ son act like that makes me laugh so much
It was a little jarring not knowing this going in, although to be honest, in the part where he goes home it definitely felt like there was still way too much to wrap up and not enough time, so I'm glad they didn't just rush an ending. I was fine with it, although I heard a few grumbles in the audience. I think people would have been generally happier if they knew beforehand that it was a two-parter (for instance, I'm pretty plugged into this stuff and I already knew there was a third movie Beyond the Spider-Verse planned, but I still didn't know it was the second part to Across). I hope that doesn't colour people's opinion of what was otherwise an amazing movie.
"Bring out the guillotine" finally somone saying the obvious part out loud
I came from Comic PoP, I stayed for the comedy ITS PC GONE MAD MASON! I'm sorry but I've listened to nearly the entire history of this podcast over the last month I'm gonna do all the jokes, ALL THE JOKES cause they're new to me. This has been an algorithm comment with a hint of humor and a splash of glee, thank you and goodnight
there aren't enough words in the dictionary to express how incredible a movie spider-verse was. the animation, soundtrack, acting; all of it was clearly a labour of love and i cannot wait to watch the next part.
Capt Stacy looks Completely different from PT.1
No Continuity WHATSOEVER
👎🏻 👎🏻 Worst Movie Ever 👎🏻 👎🏻
@@RocafellaPlaza82 wut
@@daily6633 I'm not trying to steal ATSV Thunder, but "The Little Mermaid" live action is the greatest movie of all times
@@RocafellaPlaza82 now why would you lie with your whole chest like this
The fact that 2023 has given us John Wick 4, Dungeons and Dragons, Super Mario Bros, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, and Across the Spiderverse is amazing. Movies are back!
I'm actually excited for TMNT too, which is a sentence I never thought I would write after everything we've seen before.
and Oppenhiemer AND Napoleon. 2023 is a great year for cinema.
One of the best movies I’ve ever seen
Insane how good it is
Spoilers:
I love how miles refusal to let anyone die makes him more Spider-Man than any of them
1:07:18 I believe original comic book Spider-Man WAS in this. He had one of the funniest gags in the movie. He was animated very poorly, and moved very slowly. When he stuck his leg out to swing, he cried, "OH! Dang, I pulled something."
I thought that was 60s tv show spiderman
Ah, you are correct. I was aware of this show (and the iconic theme song) but never watched it. I just watched a clip on CZcams, and it definitely has that janky animation style. That's funny, because I remember watching the Fleischer Superman cartoons as a kid, and they came out in the 40s.
I had a dream you guys changed your theme back. I heard it so vividly
Honestly never believed they could like up to the first one, I'm confident they can make the 3rd one incredible!
I kept seeing people in my TL going "the NIN guys are doing TMNT, that's WILD" and i'm just like...they did Disney's SOUL, they won an Oscar for it! Surely THAT'S more wild?
And on Spider-verse...FUCKING INCREDIBLE! The layers of creative passion that's gone into it is just amazing! As an artist the art direction was next level! Like Gwen's palette was all pastel colors ( the BG when talking with her dad as well), and when she had damage she had chalk smudges! A little detail almost NOBODY is picking up on. Just so SO good!
Trent also wrote and produced "Old Town Road"
@@davidblank420 are you sure? I think that Lil Nas sampled a track released by Trent Reznor or NIN as the foundation of the track, not sure on the writing side
My theory for Beyond the Spiderverse is that when a dimension loses its “canon” it’s not destroyed but instead becomes a non-Spiderman centric world. And their interdimensional devices only let them go to worlds where Spiderman is the main character (similar to Rick and Morty)
So to save his father, Miles chooses to be removed from the “Spider Matrix” and he’ll never be able to see Peter, Gwen, or the others again, making his happy ending still tragic.
I don't know if they can just wave away the implications of canon events without making Miguel and Jessica and like every Spider person ever seem like total evil jackasses.
My theory is that Miles will disrupt the Captain death canon event with some other canon event first. Or maybe create his own canon or something.
@@spartanB0292 both movies have a fighting against fate message to them so that would fit in line alot
someone said something similar, but there's the possibility that it happens, only for later he be bitten by a new spider that was meant for him.
@@soulxsurvivor I like the theory, but then that doesn't explain how Miles is able to go to the 42 universe, since that universe lacks a Spider-Man (although I guess it's possible that the machine that returns people to their universe is a one-way ticket, and the Spider-Folk can't visit them with their wrist devices, but that kind of leaves Miles trapped and cut off from the Spider-Verse already, so if he finds a way back once, that means he can do it again and would undercut any "make the sacrifice of never being able to see his friends" storyline).
Yall should finally review Snake Eyes and just review the 1998 Nic Cage film.
Yeet, the ending got me so bad, I need to watch the next one asap
I think Tom Cruz is underestimating the love the general public have for Nolan movies.
Mission Impossible will make atleast DOUBLE the box office of Oppenheimer you tool 😅
@@scottbarkley496ok bro lol
People keep assuming the Spider Woman movie is about Jessica Drew but the most popular Spider Woman right now is Spider Gwen
They'd be INSANE not to make a Spider Gwen movie. Not to knock Drew, but she's just not the hot property that Gwen is.
As a die-hard Bon Jovi fan and long time lover of the pod, 8:33 made me so happy
I never thought I’d say this but I agree with Tom cruise, it seems crazy that one movie can take up every single IMAX screen for three weeks
Also, SPOILERS, but in the little intro overture kinda thing, we see the spider that bites miles, heading for the miles of earth 42 so the theory is that he was meant to be Spider-Man there and not miles of earth 1610 (our miles)
On a serious note I've genuinely wanted to see a "Walking Tall" sequel for years 😂 I think its The Rock's best movie, my favorite of his at least.
Can we just stop to appreciate how good this movie is that it makes No Way Home look unimpressive by comparison?
What is with you people and praising a movie via shitting on another? 😂😂
The entire Marvel Cinematic Universe looks unimpressive in comparison! It cost like a billion dollars to incorporates live action actors and sets, with CGI action sequences. People play video games, and we grew up with mature animated shows. WE GET IT.
Can we quit pretending like Fettuccine Alfredo isn't just Mac & Cheese for adults! Hollywood has to know there's a market for this now...right? Like animated genre films are viable now. No need to deepfake and de-age actors for continuity.
Now just pay the damn writers and animators!
@@alexanderford3831 Yeah, I really like most of the MCU stuff, but the first Spider-Verse is easily my favourite super hero movie of all time, and it's not even close. For them to pull that off once was incredible - for them to do it back to back is almost unbelievable. It really goes to show what creatives can do if a) you get people with a genuine passion for the project (not just hiring big names for the free marketing clout) and b) presumably if the studio execs butt out and don't micromanage everything (I'm assuming that's the case, because both movies take the kind of risks studio execs really don't seem to like any more).
On the second point, I was actually really worried going in, that maybe the first movie was so good because Sony didn't care enough to get too involved, and that its success might mean they'd want to take the reins more on the sequel, but thankfully whatever happened, they managed to nail it twice.
I wouldnt say that. No Way Home was actually a complete story. Across the Spiderverse is half a movie.
It all felt way less self-indulgent to me. The fun Spider-Man references were incorporated really well.
i said this in another video comment but what i love about this movie is that, the first was all about miles character development, but this time its gwen's story, she is the one that went through her development,shen went from someone doing her best but still unable to handle the pressure, looking for any excapism she could, but it was by being with miles and learning from him that made her able to move foward and finally come to fix them.
I'm just not all for their relationships. Whites should be with whites, and blacks should be shipped back to Africa
honestly amazed that nick and james didnt know that hobbie was spider-punk in the comics too
The multiverse allows you to really look at the core of a character and I hope they focus on that idea while they inevitably milk the multiverse
I didnt know it was gonna go into a part 2 , so as it was wrapping up I was like”jeeze this movie is taking forever…so I was kinda not expecting it to end when it did. I wonder if i will enjoy it more watching it a second time?Also the gwen mellow drama didn’t do it for me🤷 also the movie gave me a head ach and the audio was hard to make out in some parts. But I liked it
Fast Furious is Universal and Transformers is Paramount
Maso's guillotine needs to be a recurring segment.
How was i not aware of this podcast and just emergency awesome
Welcome to the Weekly Wackadidoo family
Ya dickhead!
Nah, you're cool mate
The director of Mutant Mayhem is the codirector of The Mitchells vs the Machines which is from the same producers and studio of Spiderverse
The working title for SMATU was Easter Egg: The Movie
Man I loved Jungle Cruise and thought Rock was great in it.
Mission Impossible will make atleast DOUBLE the box office of Oppenheimer ..
Theatre owners hate Money apparently 😂
1:11:17 the chief wigum line was funny
Mild spoiler...
Love this continuity- first movie Peter says "save it for comicon," miles replies "what's comicon?"
Second movie Miles' mom says "is that like a comics-con thing?" And Miles says "i don't know what that is"
I'm so ready for the next one.
Given that the main day to day purpose of the elite spider squad seems to be stopping villains who've slipped into the wrong dimensions, I find it incredibly funny that they just left Tom Holland out to dry in no way home.
I think the implication is that along with Miguel infiltrating that one universe, the first spiderverse, no way home, and any other multiverse spider related thing led to him forming that spider society thing.
It seems like Doctor Strange may have already made such a mess of things with his spell that Miguel doesn't want to risk tampering with things in that universe right now (and maybe things are on-track canon-wise so they have no reason to interfere, after all the Peter in that universe has already had two death-related tragedies _and_ the pain of his friends forgetting he even exists, so if the pain is part of the process, he's probably going to work out fine). It was at least fun that they called out the mess Strange made.
I think it's possible that they did get involved with the No Way Home disaster, but there's no record of it in the movie No Way Home because they were super stealthy.
That's my head canon for now, anyway, unless they give us a better explanation in part 2.
Omg that's such a good video that I watched all of
The part about a Pixar movie focused on feet ... thats top notch stuff, 100% on rotten tomatoes on first weekend.
I can't wait to see Kim Cattrall toss the lightsaber over her shoulder.
James and Maso on party quirks would be the greatest piece of content on the entire internet (James as the guesser of course)
Across the spider-verse is cinema gold.
Whoot whoot here finally!
I'll never forget my theater experience, there wasn't any cheering or anything like that, but the ending got the entire audience to freak out and just talk throughout the entire credits. I loved that since I feel like we were robbed of that impact with Infinity War since everyone knew it was a 2 parter, but not here so the reactions were genuine.
Also I can see why Mason said the story was just fine, but I actually really liked that the main through line of the plot was two super powered teens dealing with relationship issues which is always the core of Spider-Man and is even more impressive that this is a Spider-Man movie where Peter Parker appears for like 20 minutes. This is one of the most successful new generation of a franchise I can think of. I mean just compare this movie to Rey Skywalker.
also, i think the movie had a resolution, but not for miles, for gwen, miles already had his character development in the first movie, so they took the chance to give it to gwen.
i also love how we see that gwen isnt infalible, she is at the worst point of her life, unable to deal with the pressure and instead of trying to figure it out, she simply decides to give up and flee from her problems.
we can also see that the reason she is unable to make friends is due to her own choice, there are many people around her who do want the best for her, and wants to be friends, but she is closed up to them.
so we can see the effect miles has on her, and more importantly, is only by seeing him feel betrayed by her that she understood that she cant keep doing this.
Wasn't there dialogue in NWH of AG Peter becoming vengeful and cruel and having to be pulled back, as well as TM Peter talking about making his relationship with MJ work and moving forward?
I listened to this when it came out 5 months ago and just now watched the movie.. I completely forgot everything you guys had said so i immediately came here to re-listen...
Your sons rage is totally understandable and justified. Fuck me, i forgot it was a 2 part story and now I am also fucking pissed. God damn it, its so fucking good i just need to have the rest of the story NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it's not fucking March either.
Sick just came to check if u guys did an episode on this yet and it's here 2 hours ago sick
Slight spoiler for spider-verse...
...Maso asks why doesn't Miles go invisible when they're chasing him, but he actually explains that when they're on the rocket... train... thing - he had to let them see him because he deliberately lured the spider-folk away. It was always his plan to go back and use the dimension goober to get back home. He probably just thought he had more chance of doing this if there weren't a hundred spider-peeps hanging around (and he actually does go invisible in the scene when he goes back, so it's not just an oversight - I like that they actually remember he has powers that he can use to solve problems).
I was on the fence but the emotional scenes are insane
This random hicktown rivalry that has nothing to do with anything spilling over into a random podcast on the other side of the world is basically the only reason i tune in
@Maso, I am also very "wheel out here guillotines ya"
I can't hear Mason say: "I don't know." without hearing Old Rey Skywalker.
Of all the writers strike delays, nothing has made me upset until I heard about the Community movie. Please start paying people!!!!
If Super Mario Bros was the Citizen Kane of animated films, than Across the Spider-Verse would easily be considered the Casablanca of our times.
Weekly Defenders of the planet podcast🎉
my theater had it to where I couldn't hear the dialogue or really anything as well as I would hope.
Maso is right about Toy Story 2, even though it was miraculous that they found a copy, they did indeed still make a lot of changes before they released it
Uncanny X force has one of if not the best comic book death NO SPOILERS but nightcrawler teleports something into something
Really having trouble finding Maso’s ep of Dice Paper Roll, if anyone could help me please
I didn’t realize that Avi Arad was still around.
The spider was supposed to bite Miles On Earth-42. You see it in the movie in the spot flashbacks.
It's bloody Monday you Weekly Wackadoos!
My kids were furious about it being a two parter. It was hilarious.
Tom Cruise about to ride on the back of a nuke, laugh maniacally as he drops it on IMAX Corp HQ
Southland Tales 2... DO IT, THE ROCK.
What a movie
Can't believe James just said "how many more months are we gonna do this" re the Maryland stuff. The same James who started saying westworld in the theme in the summer of 1680 and maintained it until the heat death of the universe? Snake eyes next week James?? My goodness
I love the MD vs VA debate has been going on for over a month now. MD > VA
FUN FACT: there's a holden commodore cameo in this movie
Cast Harrison Ford as Joe bidden in a movie. Speaking that into existence
How did Hoby know to tell Miles to use his palms when doing the venom blast?
And in the spots flash back we see Miles from 42 was going to be bit
Hoby knew because he shares that power with Miles and he's lived with it longer. That was very clear in the movie.
Anyone else rewatching old podcast
I Missed it, but why is Sin City 2 a deep Weekly Planet reference?
Never had as much muttering and giggling during a film from the crowd and I was completely okay with it.
Grab that Jim! See you next week!
I reckon for the next one. It all goes wrong, they loose everything and they have to find earth prime/o.g Spider-Man to help fix it. Maybe madame web in the process. Can't wait till march.
The implications of how this universe works are staggering, every Spider-man should be dealing with an existential crisis.
I’m 100% convinced Tom Cruise is prepared to detonate (1) of his own nukes to get more IMAX screens
Tom Cruise laughing maniacally and riding a nuke, Dr.-Strangelove-style
SPOILER:
Actually, I believe spider 42 was actually meant for universe 42's Miles Morales.
the flashback/ memory thing he sees show the spider going for him. so yeah.
I think my movie theater was having problems because I could barely make out what spider punk was saying because the score was playing so loud over like 80% of his dialogue.
You guys need to get your application for 16bit scenes spiderman universe In quick for beyond the spiderverse!
Best movie ever.
Are you telling me I can’t here
🎶 shootin up ya butthole🎶
In the intros anymore!!!
Dang it!
Unfortunately Mason is correct, the version of Toy Story 2 that miraculously got saved was later mostly scrapped and they remade the movie anyway
Now I desperately need Harrison Ford to do Hot Ones
And he has to do it high.
Imagine if this film became a massive global hit. 😅
I think it's fair to say Quebec drivers drive like Parisian drivers: they don't care if you live or die.
But when it comes to bad at actual driving, I think we in Vancouver, BC win. Half an inch of snow and most of us are fucked.
The rest of the country mocks us, and they all laugh when we have a blizzard, 'cause the City doesn't have a clue how to cope.
(We've had it easy most of the year most years for decades, but Climate Change is about to really dose us with reality. Winters are getting colder, summers are getting hotter.)