2014 Ram 2500 6.4L HEMI takes on the Grueling Ike Gauntlet HD Towing Test
Vložit
- čas přidán 10. 10. 2014
- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) The 2014 Ram 2500 6.4L HEMI Heavy Duty pickup truck is incredible capable towing tool but just how well does this gasoline HEMI powered truck pull when loaded to the max at two miles above sea level? That's the core of TFL's grueling Ike Gauntlet torture towing test and that's the mountain that the 2014 Ram 2500 has to scale in this latest Ike Gauntlet video.
How did the big Ram do when compared to the Chevy we tested earlier this year?
The Ike Gauntlet is a timed run up one of America's steepest highways from 9,000 feet above sea level to the top of the mountain at entrance to the Eisenhower Tunnel in Colorado.
Watch this video to find out.
( / tflcar ) Please visit to support TFLcar & TFLtruck.
Check us out on:
Facebook: ( / tflcar )
Twitter: ( / tflcar )
and now even Truck Videos on CZcams at:
The Fast Lane Truck ( / tflcar )
and classic cars as well at:
TFLClassics ( / classicsunleashed ) - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Hey guys, I enjoy your test. I have driven about all the big boys in gas and diesel. To give my experience with the test of gas engines, my GM 6.2L 1500 was a good truck that drove nice and rode comfortably, but it did not manage heavier weight very well with mods and add ons. I moved to a F350 6.2L gas, but it did not pull well for me, and rode terible. I found a 2015 Ram Longhorn 6.4L 3500 that I still drive today. I pull a toyhauler tipping out at 11-11.5K lbs. The family loves riding in it. I love driving it empty or pulling. The Ram pulls uphill just fine, not as good as a diesel, but the best gas engine I have had. Mileage is better than the GM 1500, and much better than the F350.
Thank you for the creative and entertaining reviews TFL
You guys have been doing this awhile and have got good,keep it up
Thank you for the creative and entertaining reviews TFL!
You are most welcome. Thank you for watching!
Ram designed the truck to not exceed 4200 rpm under high pressure to increase the longevity and fuel economy of the truck. This was said by Ram. They would rather you have a slow truck that lasts, than one that pushes the motor unnecessarily. You're still getting to where you want to go. It'll just cost you less in the long run.
Indeed. The other trucks will run right on the red line all the way up the hill, but do this day after day and they'll throw a rod through the block (saw a Tundra do this trying to pull too much weight uphill). Better to play it safe and slow down a bit. You'll lose some bragging rights at first but when your engine keeps on running when the others are blown to bits you'll get the last laugh.
UnsulliedSpy .... I tow with my 2012 Chevy 4.8l gasser, I tow 7k lbs every weekend up a long steep grade and I run it hard near redline and it’s never had an issue. It’s got 190k on it now and The last thing I’m worried about is it “blowing up”. These engines are designed and tested to run long periods at high rpms. Part of owing and towing with a gasser is learning not to fear the redline. Just run the heck out of them. And enjoy saying 10k otherwise fork out the money and get a diesel.
So use a higher gear for a better result with lower rpm?
@@406Steven You're saying this about the LS engine? cmon man...
u must be a ram fan
The Chevy 6.0 has always been a strong running motor, even at elevation and I am talking about the first gen Silverado HD circa 2000. I was driving US 50 between Salida and Monarch Pass and was impressed with how well one was dragging a 5th wheel camper up and down the hills. Mind you, this had a 4 speed auto.
Really great job of editing to hold viewer interest!!
I like Mr. Truck you can tells he actually knows what he is talking about, and it nice to just listen to the stuff he has to talk about.
I love your videos! Thanks guys! You help me with my next truck purchase.
Great review guys thanks!
I'd like to see how the 90s trucks big block gas engines do on the ike gauntlet vs these new trucks. It would be a fun test of time. Chevy 2500 454 vs F250 460 vs ram 2500 488 V10 (dodge didn't have a big V8 at the time). All in perfect working order, not as hard to find as one may think.
Off the line towing honestly will probably be better in the bigger engines but might not be as fast due to less peak horsepower and an obvious downfall in MPG due to engine mass.
I'd really love to see it.
I have a 1997 F350 4x4 regular cab, 5-spd manual, and 3.55's. It just passed 37,000 original miles, and I recently installed a full Banks header-back exhaust system. It's a complete dog; runs out of breath real quick, and is like driving a farm tractor with leaf springs down the highway.
I wanna see one with a Chevy 350 a ford 302 and a dodge 318
I don't know technology has improved quite a bit since then
Have you never driven a 454, they are by no means a dog.
Hunter Edwards The 454's that came in the trucks were slow as all hell, good grunt down low but no power above 4000rpm. The 460 was a better engine in my opinion, but still a dog above 4000 RPM, even better bottom end though.
I just bought 1 of these...awesome!
just bought one of these, live in Alberta. I couldnt be happier. On my day to day driving its almost equal to my previous f150 with a 5.0L, but the mileage towing is way better, also a much better drive!
Just got set up. Pulling with 2017 ram tradesman 4x4 6.4 hemi. Travel trailer scaling in at 12,000lbs.... Y'all had me nervous and yes 3.73 rear end and yes up the blue ridge mountains.... Traded in a f250 6.4 powerstroke.... The truck pulled amazing!!! Never got below 60 mph up hill never got over 4000 rpm. Pulled hills twice as fast than the desiel... Averaging 10.1 miles a gallon! Truck is amazing!
6.4 hemi great engine period
Wow that’s awesome, still happy with the truck?
Josh B. Try 2017 F250 6.7
@@dontrae12jemison12 the Cummins diesel still gets better fuel mileage than the Ford diesel.
I just bought a 2019 ram 3500 6.4 with 410 rear 4x4 standard cab. Towed 7000lbs from NJ to SW Florida and got 12 mpg running 65mph @ 1800 rpm.And to top it off I'm a diesel guy and this truck really impressed me. Current mileage on trk is 2300. Towed like as if it was a diesel.
Sasha Shpiruk was it with the 8 speed transmission?
@@Cjrm3gtr yes.
Sasha Shpiruk nice bro I get like 10.5-12 towing a 14’ trailer 7500 lbs gvwr in my 17’ Ram 2500 diesel 4x4 automatic around the city and highway average I wish it had more gears mpg would improve.
@@Cjrm3gtr my 02 ram 3500 diesel dually gets around 13-14 pulling 36 ft gooseneck two car trailer loaded. But has 5in turbo back exhaust no muffler, cold air kit and 355 rear. Love those older 5.9s
What’s your average mpg unloaded?
+The Fast Lane Truck I just took my 6.4 Hemi 2500 4x4 on a 4,500-mile road trip and I was averaging 18.5 MPG on 78 MPH avg on interstates and this is with the 3.73 rear end so I was getting at least 500 plus miles range on a full tank of gas.
Paulo Abesamis really? that's crazy good. I'm looking of trading in my 08 1500 4.7 for a 16 2500 6.4. I get like 11 mpg avg with my 4.7 because I tow a trailer alot. do you recommend the 6.4? I tow like 3k to 4k lb almost on the daily.
If you tow everyday but not tow super heavy loads yes I suggest getting the 6.4 Hemi. That's my daily driver, I drive like 4-5 miles to work so my fuel consumption is 10-11MPG, BUT I've seen it do good when driving long distances, it loves to stay in the 1,600RPM range too. But with what you tow you should be good with the 6.4
Paulo Abesamis I bought a 2017 heavy duty 4x4 with the 6.4 Hemi in it about a month ago. I think something may be not working right on it. I went camping last weekend and it only averaged 9 mpg at about 65 mph!!!! I was towing a 30 ft RV that weighs in at about 8k lbs. And in town I only get about 11. I figured I wouldn't get great gas milage but this thing is a hog!!!! I thought maybe I would get somewhere around 14/17 but not even close! It also sounds like the front end is gonna fall out when I put it in 4 wheel drive. The shifting is terrible. I traded in a 2015 Ram Laramie that got 27 mpg on the highway but to be fair it was the 6 cylinder engine. Just needed a bigger truck but couldn't afford the deisel.
I can't believe you guys can't figure this one out, put Nathan back behind the wheel when you do your testing, he knows how to drive!!!
+The Fast Lane Truck you should do a highway MPG for this truck, or if I have missed that episode I'll look it up. I love watching your reviews and enjoy watching this one because I have one but with 3.73 rear axle.
Great test apples to apples as you can get with good info to prove it.
I think what happened and I could be wrong was when Kent manually changed the gears on the shift lever it stays in manual mode where the user must do all the shifting. You have to press and hold the gear up button to shut it off and turn it back into automatic mode. That is why you could see the number six the whole time next to the D symbol. It only shows the gear number in manual mode. Just a thought
I happen to own a '14 Ram 3500 and can tell you that just because it's showing 6 doesn't mean it won't shift on it's own. If you set it to 6, it just means 6 gear is the highest it will go. Set it to 4, 4th is the limited gear. It will go to 3, 2, 1 and all the way back to 4, if need be... It showing 6 isn't the problem....
BTW, I know my Ram would kick the butt off the one in this video, going up this hill with the same load.. But then again, mine has a Cummins w/Aisin...
You had the truck in manual 6th gear for your climb, should have just left it in auto with the tow haul kicked on, and let the transmission select it's own gearing. Leave the manual selector alone!!!
Michael Gorham it’s a lock out not a manual gear selector like the fords have it should be able to downshift
What he set was a maximum gear lock that keeps it from going higher than that gear. It doesn't keep it from downshifting below that gear. It's a 6 speed tranny so it was allowed it's full automatic range. The only reason he set that is it gives the gear display on the dash so they new what gear that tranny was pulling in.
You could see the coolant temperature gauge climbing to the 3/4 mark. Maybe the ECU pulled some power.
I can't wait to see the mpg with this beast.
good job guy's !
It's a nice truck, while it's too early to review it or praise it or rant it I enjoy this truck for the most part.
Love the color
Can you guys do a review on a 3500 Ram 6.4 hemi on the gauntlet.
John S
1 second ago
I used to be a Chevy person, but since I bought my 05 Dodge Ram, I'll never go back. One of the major things that bother me about Chevy trucks is their interior fit and finish and how things just start falling apart or annoying rattles driving you crazy. My boss had a newer model Chevy long bed and we would use it to transport items to a tradeshow in Vegas and the regular driver pointed out about 10 things on the interior that just seemed to detach themselves, it was hilarious to see so many loose connections that simply pointed to poor materials or inadequate attention during assembly. That alone was enough for me to not to even think about buying Chevy when I'm ready to upgrade. I've had older Chevys in the past as well, one stands out as the biggest POS was my 78 Suburban. Anything and everything failed on that truck and I dumped a lot of money into it before finally waking up and cheap selling it. On the other hand, no one squeak or rattle from the Ram truck in 135K miles. I had one issue and that had to do with a sheared exhaust manifold bolt, otherwise problem free mechanically, in this context I've been impressed with the quality of how the interior components fit tight and don't fall apart.
In regards to the video, I can do without the guy in the passenger seat overtalking his partner and trying to be the entertainer, I want the cold hard facts and less drama. But, I have heard of issues here and there regarding the 6.4, most of which dealt with poor fuel economy. Like many have said here, the test results just seemed to contradict the capability of what this truck brings to the table on paper, it's as though something was wrong somewhere in the mechanics or software, I hope some official from Mopar was watching because this makes the truck DOA in the mind's of many prospective buyers. If it were me considering a truck that required to pull loads like the test vehicle, I wouldn't even consider the 6.4 or any gas motor for that matter, this test and conditions screams diesel all the way.
just bought a 2017, night and day difference from the ftl comments. ram fixed the exhaust and it is very throaty. gobs of power and pretty good fuel econ when mds kicks in. also the new ones, even in my tradesman have a tow feature where you can lock the tranny into a max gear. meaning when going up or down a hill you can set it to not upshift. example, dont go above fourth. this solves the hunting issue that my ford had.
I love the looks of the Rams over all the rest. I'll just put it in tow haul, and run 60mph lol
my observation from this video is that if they wouldn't have messed with the manual gear on the shift there would have been significant results he tried to cycle the screen from the gear shaft where you cycle from the steering wheel controls and I speak from experience that when I tow on my RAM 1500 I like to rest my hand on the gear shaft and sometimes it goes into manual mode and that will play a significant role when your transmission cant go either up or down in gear due to our fingers. that's my two cents
I disagree, the power of first gear plus the torque converter multiplication and the rear end I mean really think about that First gear.
Awesome truck
TFL, We are ready to see the new 2020 2500 6.4 with the 8 speed, 4.10 . Please do another run up the Ike in the new truck. That 8 speed should have completely different results!
We have a 16 with the 6.4, its a powerwagon so it has low gears and a 2.5 in lift on it. I love that truck, it'll pull anything and you won't even realize there is a trailer behind you
I wonder why the truck was struggling so much, also I notice the coolant temperature gauge when up almost at the end of the video
really nice looking truck, has some cool features too...curious that it's so much slower than the Chevrolet, since the 6.4 has 50hp/49tq more than the 6.0 does...wonder if the results would be the same at or near sea level
I love my ram 2500 it’s a great truck
19:43 The car in the middle lane came really close to almost hitting a motorcycle.
My '07 5.3 Chevy struggled with its own weight much less towing
I wonder if it would have changed gears if you let off the gas and then floored it again. Though I know you wouldn't do it for the purpose of staying consistent but for anyone else I wonder if that would help. That'd have me really worried about getting hit by someone by going so slow.
I can answer the question, no it did not go into REP mode, but I'd be willing to bet it hit cat overtemp. PE (power enrichment) is designed to keep the engine from knocking and keep cylinder temps down when your under ALOT of load. The computer takes a good guess at the catalytic converter temp, what I bet happened is as soon as it went over the limit it started pulling timing so i could slack up on the fueling, the more unburnt fuel the hotter the cat...which is bad. What killed the power is the timing..you could almost watch it pull timing starting about 4 minutes into the run and it became progressively worse, even the engine tone changed.
This feature is a deal breaker for me! I am not driving 30 mph up a hill in no truck. That's down right garbage. Get this fixed, I could possibly own a ram 6.4 gasser.
It has been fixed, ram switched to a much larger cat and changed the cam profile for better breathing.
This rings true. I've had the 2015 version of this truck for about 6 months, towing a 10K TT around the country and this is 100% how it behaves on hills. Runs great otherwise. Any idea if there's a remedy??
@@cage9 not really, Ford chose not to release an update for the ECM because of possible emissions equipment damage. They did investigate it, concluded the algorithm that guesses how hot the cat is tends to be pretty accurate. If the cat was larger maybe? All turbocharged gas engines have a pretty serious PE (fuel enrichment) to protect the engine, and this causes extra stress on the converters in turn. The solution is a naturally aspirated or diesel if you subject the truck to this kind of load consistently. IF its occasional, then its operating how its supposed to.
I have the same truck--nearly identical setup and I can confirm the same behavior. My trailer is only 9500 lbs but in the panhandle of WV it certainly was a challenge once you lost momentum.
Same here...30 mph on steep grades towing about your same trailer weight. Frustrating.
I need to get me a cowboy hat!
i love the big horn model. more rugged no luxury. i want this model sometime soon. after trading in my 04 F150
I saw what looked like a 3/4 ton truck & fairly large travel trailer zoom up the hill past them. It may not have been hauling 12,000 lbs, but it looked like about 8,000-ish. So I think something went wrong with the gearing on the Ram. Possibly when he was fiddling with it.
have you done this test with the 2017 f250 6.2L?
Just watch that temp. gauge you can really see how hard it was struggling
I was about to say the same thing. Either that truck has something wrong with it or the engine puts out way less power then it is rated at. Looks like a nice truck but that run was weak.
I'm watching this on 6/04/18 but if you go to the ram website and build a 2500 ram the only automatic transmission option is the 66rfe (same as power wagon) it would be nice to have the option for the beefier 68rfe.
Can you please do a gasser video of the chevy 8.1 vs the Ford v10 for towing. Would be a great data point in the debate of best gasser tow vehicle
Hey guys I love your videos I am a heat and air conditioning contractor in Texas and I was wondering what truck you recommend a heavy duty gas or 1/2 ton truck I do haul units that are heavy but I won't drive the truck much due to me having a company truck I have a family so we go out a lot I plan on getting at least a 20 foot camper any suggestions would be great
Esa RAM es tremenda Camioneta puede con todo
if anyone noticed the ram was doing the something as the chevy it was dropping to almost 3000 around the 15 min mark
I tow a Charger Hellcat with my 6.4 and have never had any issues with no downshifting.. also if they’re in towhaul mode MDS is deactivated.
I feel so much better about my 6.0 vortec now that uphill was awful lol
As he cycled through the EVIC display it showed tire pressures 5 psi below the recommended maximum. Might be a factor.
After watching this, I'm pretty convinced the stocm tune has much to do with this and was holding this thing back. Of course, I would also like to know what the temps were like during this run.
I would really interested in how this thing would do with a proper tune.
waiting for 6.2 super duty test .
They did use MrTruck's own 2012 superduty with the 6.2 when comparing to the raptor 6.2. But otherwise yep i'm waiting for a 2015 super-dude!
BBTthetank
except it's wasn't 2014 model test , see the difference ? as for 2015 super duties they can wait .
mohammadkwt There isn't much of an update for the 2015 superduties. The powerstroke gets a larger a turbo and a few other tweaks, but that's it. Since these are all gas trucks, a 2012 is no different from a 2014 or 2015.
Any buddy know where i can buy one in that configuration and color
Looks like it was taken out of tow haul and then the manual shift was messed with. I think that it might of been out of tow haul so it never hit the rpm to shift to 2nd.
Waiting for 7.3 gas test before I purchase new truck
I’d like to see this test done on older 90’s pickup trucks. Like a 97 ram with a 5.2L v8, haven’t seen anything this controlled on a truck like that.
5.2 would STRUGGLE 😂 no good news would come from a test like that, but I agree it would be entertaining to compare
Would the slow time have anything to do with when Kent manually changed the gears at the beginning of the run?
He didn't manually change the gears. He was messing with the electronics to display which gear he was in
I think it would make it up the hill faster if you left it in Drive/towhaul instead of manually selecting a higher gear of course its not going to downshift!
What's the gearing on the to trucks being compared ?
how could an engine with that kind of power and torque not be able to go over 40 mph even with the grade and the altitude
You guys need to redo this
as far as the 6.4 liter gas v8 engine goes I wouldnt go shaming it just yet. There could be a big possibility that that requirement for premium gas could have had a major effect on its time. if you go to any dealer they all say premium unleaded for those engines but i never heard if they made sure it was that or not. I did not even notice this til this morning and i have been scanning this for a while
I'm in the market for a 3/4 ton crew cab. I like the Ram best. Now its the debate over gas or diesel. I'l be towing about 20% of the time. The trailer weights about 8.5k with another 1.5k of other stuff I'm at about 10K lbs. Suggestions?
How were the temps? Engine and transmission?
RAM just has it right with these hemi engines they’re just absolute monsters
Does anyone else see how the truck was overheating at the end, how come they didn’t mentioned it?
What song is that when the truck pulls onto the scales?
Anyone else notice the temp gauge on that truck toward the top of the hill that thing was starting to Climb 😂
RAM. es. RAM .... Que bella esa Camioneta 😍
I don't know what the recommended tire pressure is on this truck (front/back), and guessing these are D-rated since this is a HEMI and not a Cummins. I did notice at the 5:00 mark, the front tire's PSI are 63 and 65 respectively, and the rear PSI at 72 and 73. I do know the tires have a max psi of 80, and typically the fronts are aired down a little less than the rears, but is 63 and 65 too low with this kind of load? Would 70 up front and 75 in the rear have provided less rolling resistance and better results? I know a few PSI can make a huge difference ..... curious.
When do you guys plant to do an One Guantlet with the new 2019 ram 2500 6.4 hemi video?
I have been long long awaiting that One gauntlet video.
Love the channel keep it up guys!!
PS I watch this video like twice a month. I need some updates!! Haha
Did the trailer brakes stick or something? Idk how it could be even more than a minute slower
Maybe the ram was in cylinder deactivation mode after all Lol!
What about wind comparison? When you did the chevy wind at back. How much wind? This can make a big difference in your test result.
12:03 were you actually getting 2mpg?
Love how a truck pulling a big ass camper blows their doors off. Wtf??! Love the show but I wish you guys would take some time to explain why this truck was so slow.
Almost seems like your trailer brakes are partially engaged the whole time. I would check it since the Temp was so high coming down.
What are the transmission ratios ...and gear spacing vs the Chevy ...rear end gears are not the only gearing that determines how a rig pulls the first set of gears are i the trans and even Torque converter can be different ...point is the motor may have more power but the gearing may not allow it shine in the hills ,but it may do much better on flats and bumps ,which really you only see passses like this on a few trips and they only last a short few miles ...The pain of driving a Chevy ...Runs Deep ...
test the ford 6.2 f250 is their sway trailer control system better or worse for your hill decent trailer brake test?
Hey, TFL! Was there a difference in transmissions between the two trucks? Different model, different number of gears? Also, how about a crossover with TFL Classics. Maybe run a 20 or 30 year old truck up the Ike, to see how things have changed.
Those daggone cramping toes did it!
Did you have water thing in Chevy bed it's a wind block
How's the gas mileage on the 6.4 pulling?
+The Fast Lane Truck do a 2018 RAM 3500 SLT Regular Cab 4X4 SRW with the high output 6.7L Cummins with the AISIN 6 Speed Automatic Transmission
There hauling shine rite under everyones nose LOL
Have y’all ever done the Ike with a 5.9 24. Valve Cummins?
So basically if you want the perfect truck get this with the diesel. I love those ramboxes and interior conveniences.
could u do a ecodiesel at a sled pull
To put people to sleep?
Maybe the trailer brakes were dragging ,they thought the trailer brakes were not going to be so hot going down the grade . But so surprised to hear Andre with the temp guage after the descent test . Why would the Trailer brakes be 280* if Kent didn't think he used the brakes enough to be so hot ?Makes you wonder .
My dad bought a new trailer and it had drag on the brakes. His controller wasn't even connected. I think they were adjusted too tight.
Trailer breaks can and do drag and stick.
I'm 99% sure the color is Blue Streak Pearl, I just had my '83 dodge painted that color
What do you need 7 cupholders for? Nice vid!
So you can stop to pee a lot.
Willing to bet those trailer brakes were pulling you back on the way up, as hot as they were on the way down.
Is it 87 or 93,in the tank?
Is not fair when comparing with the silverado because you used an open goose neck trailer has better air dynamics than a bumper pull horse trailer it should be the same trailer
I would like for fast lane truck to display the temps in the transmission and radiator. I have yet to see them display any temps. The heck with the MPG. You didn't buy these trucks for MPG you bought them to pull.
Big block challenge?