Budget Land Rover LR4 Overland Build | Part 1| Lift, Steel Wheels, Oversized Tire Install
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2021
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Here is the start of a simple budget build on an LR4 I'll use personally. Today we get some Proud Rhino 2.5" lift rods installed along with a set of 18" steel wheels and 275/65R18 General Grabber ATx Tires to make it a little more capable off the beaten path. I chose this particular LR4 because of it's options, equipped with HD package (Rear Locking Differential), Vision Assist (Auto Brights, Surround Cameras). The rear locking differential was kind of a requirement for me.
I have the Rough Country ready to go in the back, we are going to be building a simple slide out kitchen in the back and that will be the next video on this little overland build of the LR4. We will have a portable sink with pressurized water, stove and some other neat features.
After that the roof rack will be built and we will get that Rough Country Tent on the top of this thing.
Link to Lift Rods on Amazon: amzn.to/37kUTn6
Link to 36" 260lb Capacity Slides: amzn.to/2TZdQJa - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Sweet looking little Mini in the background there 👌🏼
That’s a buddies. Little guy is a blast and super entertaining/sketchy to be with modern sized stuff on the road.
Thanks for adding this, have been looking at how best to make this conversion for a while !
This was a fun video, especially for someone looking for an old Land Rover. Thanks for putting this together. Truck looks great.
Appreciate that! Love me some Land Rovers.
Great review
great and helpful 👍👋
I miss my lr3. Saved money for a long time only for it to have an accident after a year. Do love discoveries, wish i had enough to get another one.
Someday hopefully you can get another. They are great vehicles. Thanks for watching!
Looks amazing guys 😍
Appreciate That!
looks really good, well done.
Appreciate that!
Nice work👍
Thanks, this one will be kind of a fun build. Never built a cabinet before so should be interesting on the woodworking side of things in the back. Thanks for the comment!
Looking forward to the camper build.
Should be neat. Hopefully everything comes in the next couple days. Thanks for watching as always.
Great stuff out there, whether LR or content !
Appreciate that!
Great channel and content. I just put on the same wheels from Lucky8 with Proud Rhino 2.5" rods with Kenda Klever AT tires in 275/65/18, and the Lr4 looks much beefier. I'm still having trouble with rubbing mostly on the front lower part of the fender where that little black end cap is. Getting a full alignment tomorrow and see if that helps. Any video about trimming would be much appreciated. Once again, great content, and I love this channel. Great job!!
Thanks for the kind words. The alignment usually helps some on the rubbing of the front plastic pieces but depending on wheel offset and exact tires we have almost always still had to trim some. We usually clearance the frame horn/crash boxes on the rear of the wheels and the lower flare/plastic up front as needed. I'll get a video up at some point of where we trim.
I have the same rubbing as described above. Kinda wished you would have mentioned the trimming part….seems like an important detail that was left out.
You guys are awesome really good work on that LR4 but I was wondering if the Pro - Rhino are good for the Air suspension? I have a Land Rover LR3 2005 and I would like to do it, but I do not if when I do it I will have problems with the air suspension? can you give a good advice about this. Thank you in advance and keep doing this because it is great.
Ultimate Candy Store, your killing me! Would you be willing/able to make videos of the maintenance/repairs that you perform?, i.e., in this vid, you could make a video,, in a video of the O2 sensor R&R that you had to do for this LR4, just a thought.
Good video, from where I could get those spacers in Australia?
Hey there, I have a 2006 LR 3 with HD package. 230,000+ miles on it. I like your work- the truck looks great. Have you checked to see whether the truck bottoms out on the bump-stops before the tires hit the wheel wells? Also there is a setting for adjusting the tire diameter to synchronize with the speedometer using an OBDII programing tool.
You would need something like the Lucky8 sya kit to ensure mobility with it aired out. Haven’t had this one bottomed out but all the other ones we have with the same setup would rub and pop flares off bottomed out with the bigger tire and lower offset wheel. For the tire size compensation you would need something like the iid gap tool.
Great video!!! Could you have put the silver wheel balance weights on the inside (so as not to be so noticeable)? Or did you already and inside was maxed out ?
Good question. These were far enough out that they wouldn’t have been happy just static balancing on just the inside lip. You could do tape weights on the back side of the face of the wheel if you wanted to. I think there is enough clearance with the caliper if I remember correctly. On anything aluminum we always use tape weights.
Would love a video on how you did the trimming! I just bought K02 275/65/18 and slight rubbing with +45m (2inch) lift - but im paranoid the of the EAS failing and going to access mode - I stilll wanna drive. Would love and appreciate the help man!! Cheers
I can do one on it sometime on what we clearance. On the failure part of it, the trimming the frame horns and plastic doesn’t really save you from that. Lucky8 have a sya kit that is essentially extended mounts for the struts that prevents it from lowering too low to drive if the eas fails.
If your that worried just run 265/65 18s
What size of rims does a 275/65/18 needs?
My LR4 sounds just like that one ... Does it have timing chain issues?
So. Cool now I now how to ask for help thanks
Shoot me a message on instagram. I try to answer everyone but sometimes I miss some. Instagram username is lostcauseranch
Hi there, great video, inspired me to change my wheels and tires. Do you know if these wheels will have locking nuts (anti-theft lug nuts)?
Thanks!
The kit from Lucky8/Terrafirma does not come with locking lug nuts but you should be able to source some that work for it. Are you located in a high wheel theft area? Typically we found that locking lugs don’t slow down the professional wheel thieves. They have ways around it.
@@LostCauseRanch I checked with Terrafirma, I didn't find them to have an option either. I live in Nairobi, Kenya, mostly use the car for 3-5 days safari camping trips and the only time it can be exposed is if I ever have a breakdown in the middle of nowhere. I know if the pros want it they will have it, it is good to give them hard time before I get back:)
what size spacers was on the black lr3 please I like how the wheels poke out the arches
Same wheel spacers on it and the silver one. They are 30 mm.
The O2 sensors always seem to be a weak link with that engine. My 2012 LR4 has had them replaced a few times… and it’s only got about 83k miles on it lol.
What brand are the steels? TuffAnt? No probs with clearing the calliper?
They are Terrafirma ones from Lucky8. The LR4 needs the 30 mm spacer to clear the calipers according to them. I haven’t tried them without to see how far off they are from fitting.
Are the wheel spacers necessary to avoid rubbing issues? Thanks
The steel wheels will not clear the LR4 brakes. If you have an LR3 you can run without the spacers.
I wish we had the v8 models in the uk they're so rare all we got are 2.7td or 3.0td in the lr4s and they are crap
I do enjoy the v8. I wouldn’t mind playing with a diesel one though but we didn’t get any. But perfectly happy with the 5.0. I guess fuel mileage is the only thing lacking for me. But is what it is.
Considering buying a 2015 LR4
Really liking the rims
Any specifications and brand on these? Any disadvantages of owning an LR4, issues etc?
Thank you
They are Terrafirma Steel Wheels with the 30mm spacers to clear the LR4 brakes. I really like the LR4's. In the world of Land Rover/Range Rover they feel to me as pretty reliable. On the SCV6 I would just make sure you don't let it overheat, you should be fine on the common timing chain problem the earlier V8s had as long as it was well serviced.
@@LostCauseRanch thank you! I am still on the fence between a Toyota 4runner or LR4
The LR4 here in Canada is about 30% cheaper to buy used.
I have black rhinos on mine about to order the rods and spacers, did you hub centric rings for the wheels to mount to the spacers?
The spacers will be hub centric to the standard Land Rover hub bore. I imagine the black rhinos are bigger than that so I would definitely get the correct hub centric rings for it to help with balance/shake.
Perfect thanks for the info! I’ll get an extra set of rings coming as well.
Appreciate that work man I bought mine back 2 years ago after seeing some of your videos 💪🏻
That’s awesome to hear. They are such enjoyable vehicles.
I used my 20” rims and got 275/55/R20
On a LR4? Any mods you needed to make for them to fit?
Swapping cats and O2 sensors? Sounds like y'all need a diagnostic system. GAP Diagnostic IIDTool. The VIN lock is only for the special programming functions (EAS, CCF, etc). Diagnostics are VIN lock free for all LR's covered by the tool.
What steel wheels are you using? I keep getting told at tire shops that steel wheels don't work with land rover as only factory wheels are recommended. I have a 2006 LR3 with 18 inch and I want to switch to steel.
I’m using a set of 18” Terrafirma steel wheels. Got them from lucky8. They bolt right up on LR3s, the LR4 requires a spacer to clear the brakes.
@@LostCauseRanch will any 18"X8 120 mm 5 bolt pattern work?
Also what made you use the 275’s over the 265’s for the LR4?
Really wanted that extra half inch.
Also, sometimes we run the 265 on Lr3s because the 4.4 has a noticeable difference in drive ability from the effective gearing change. The 5.0 in the Lr4 has plenty of power to overcome that. So within reason I like the bigger is better on tire size.
@@LostCauseRanch I noticed MUCH better tire selection too!
Good looking LR4! Any rubbing on front frame horns or right rear wheel well? Not sure if the rear wheel well is only an off-road issue or what. I wanna pull the trigger on 275/65r18 for my LR4 & you might’ve just convinced me.. 😬
Front frame horns will have to be cut. I haven’t done it in this one yet, but any Lr3/Lr4 we have put 265s or 275s on has needed them cut. It is even worse with the spacers or lower offset wheels. For instance the Lr3 that the steel wheels came off of with the 265s also needed the little frame crash boxes cut as well. The rear has been a more case by case issue for us on whether it needed to be addressed. We have had some that have rubbed on normal street driving and some that haven’t really rubbed much under some good flex. Thanks for watching!
@@LostCauseRanch thanks for the response brotha! I don’t know how the wife’s gonna feel about me cutting the frame horns… Do you think et35 offset 18” will work or will they require a 30mm spacer?
I’d like to run 275/65/18 with a 1.5” spacer BUT I’ve been told that it’s too much stress for the car and will ruin other components. Is this true? If so, what am i risking? Thanks 🙏🏻
It does put some extra leverage on certain parts. So you may see some need to replace ball joints/control arm bushings/wheel bearings at a little faster rate than factory. But that is oversized tires and lower offset wheels in general. It’s hard to say at how much of a quicker rate those will wear at, but having bigger tires further out does put some additional load on those components.
I just make it a point to check those items more often to catch any wear/failures ahead of time.
Which wheels are these exactly? There are not many wheels that fit over the LR4 brakes. I have one also and looking for a good wheel that will clear. Would be cool if you made a video on wheels that will clear 😎 keep up the good work
These are Terrafirma wheels from Lucky8. The fit on out of the box on a LR3 but require the 30mm spacer to clear the LR4 brakes.
@@LostCauseRanch thanks ! Will most 18s fit with just a spacer?
I saw somewhere there's an Australian brand aluminum 18 that clears the brakes
How dependable is air suspension on LR4 ?
In the world of air suspension they have been pretty good. The early ones are starting to get to the age that they will start seeing more problems. Compressor problems are typically the fault of not fixing a leak in the system and overrunning the compressor. Most air suspension struts start seeing leakage at over 100k or 10 years. But at that age most struts/shocks in coil sprung cars are tires too.
Why the wheel spacers? Is there a clearance issue because they will increase turning circle?
Need them to clear the brake calipers on LR4s with the steel wheels. Plus I don’t mind the extra track width now that the tent is on the roof.
Spacers help clear the brake calipers, the LR4 has larger brakes stock wheels are 19' while these are 18'.
Hi I have a question does the steel wheels go on without the spacers? anyone who has an idea please let me know thanks
It says they are required to clear the LR4 brakes. I never tried without. If I have it in the air again soon I’ll try one without the spacer to see.
I Need a help with LR4 2010
If i want to change the suspension and add 2.5 inch what to do.
I go offroad too much so what is the best option i need ?
Do yo want to keep the air suspension or go to coil spring?
@@LostCauseRanch what do you think if i change to coil better right?
I prefer the air suspension if everything is functioning correctly. But the coil springs is a more reliable setup.
@@LostCauseRanch ok sound good but am going offroad more so the spring coil better can you tell me for both way how i left the car 2.5 inch and if i want to change to coil what the best for heavy duty one for offroad
Looks nice, can you give me link for these rims?
lucky8llc.com/collections/lr4-wheels/products/set-of-5-18x8-steel-wheels-for-lr4
There is the set with the wheel spacers the LR4 brakes need.
Here is the set of 4:
lucky8llc.com/collections/lr4-wheels/products/lr4-18x8-steel-wheel-set-of-4
Any rubbing with those tires ?
Yes, I trimmed some of the fender liner and the frame horns rear of the front wheels have to be cut and clearanced.
Could we talk about me hauling my son’s 2012 LR4 to you for some checks and fix…. He is 14.5 years old and have roughly 14 months to make this happens…. Sure it will need a good 156.000 miles pm…
Any news on the lr3 on 35s ?
Nothing really yet, we had to rob some parts off that one for customer vehicles. So kind of tabled for the moment. I’m looking into gearing and more lift on this one as a possibility in the future. Thanks for watching!
I need help with my 2012 Land Rover lr4 hse where you located
I’m in Iowa, where are you? What is going on with your LR4?
Did you have to trim the chassis horns?
Yes I did, I usually go in there with an angle grinder to gain some clearance. I have some rubbing on the front plastics in certain scenarios yet that I need to trim up.
Love those Steel wheels. Any link to buy those for my 06 LR3?
lucky8llc.com/collections/lr3-off-road-wheels/products/18x8-steel-wheel-set-of-4
That is for the 4 of them. They also have a set of 5.
lucky8llc.com/collections/lr3-wheel-spacers/products/terrafirma-lr3-alloy-wheel-spacers
Here is the wheel spacers if you want them out a little further like mine.
Thank you..👍🏽
@@LostCauseRanch Where did you get the caps for the wheels? I recently bought the 5-wheel set from Luck8, but they don't come with caps.
@@sduffy79 Here is the link to the caps. I need to order another one as well. Just lost one of mine.
lucky8llc.com/collections/lr4-off-road-wheels/products/5-terrafirma-steel-rim-center-cap-kit-1
Hasta q medida de neumático se puede colocar a un lr3
I want an LR4 so bad. How is the maintenance on those? I heard horror stories with Land Rovers
They can be problematic if they are neglected. But I see you have an Audi in your picture there so you are normalized to a vehicle that is a little more finicky on maintenance.
@@LostCauseRanch Yessir that’s my Audi A4. But I also have a personal Audi mechanic that does the job for cheap. I’m lucky on that. My eyes are set on the LR4. They’re rare around where I live and I need seating for 7
@@audi_steve8363 did u buy the LR4?? Im looking at some, are they a huge headache as they say? Reliability wise how was the process for u ?
Do this fit a 2013 lr4
Yes. It would all be the same.
Thank you brother
What is more reliable lr3 or lr4?
Generally speaking in my experience the LR3 has been more reliable. But I really do like the extra power the LR4 has. Still keep this one as my daily.
@@LostCauseRanch thank you! I’m really trying to build a budget over land / off road vehicle and wanna make sure it’s reliable but still has creature comforts!
@@2Ajosh A clean/well maintained LR3 can make a good rig. Have had a couple customers with right around 300k miles on theirs.
Those spacers are going to exacerbate the wear on your wheel bearings. Additionally, if your air suspension takes a hit, you’re gonna be stuck on the rubber when she goes down.
The steel wheels require the spacers to clear the brake calipers on the LR4. It will probably end up with a Lucky8 SYA kit for the suspension if we ever take it somewhere extra remote.
Tuffant Wheels?
They are just Terrafirma Steelies.
Lr3 vs lr4??
I prefer LR4. Just. Touch more refined inside and I like the extra power of the 5.0. But the LR3 is a pretty good workhorse and doesn’t suffer from as many shortcomings in the engine department.
How has the reliability been?
Outside of just doing timing chains on it, it hasn’t skipped a beat. I like these things as long as you are aware you are going to eventually have a big bill for timing stuff.
Gotcha yeah that stuff ain’t cheap anymore, Awesome channel btw really love the LR3 and 4
Thanks, and me too. The 3s and 4s are some of my favorite vehicles.
Why use wheel spacers?
The steel wheels will not clear the brake calipers on the LR4 without them. They will clear the LR3 brakes without spacers though.
@@LostCauseRanch Thank you for letting me know.
I use 255 60 19 on lr3 2006. Planning to upgrade to steel wheels like that. Did you found a way to use tire pressure sensor on them?
I have coil springs that adds 2 inch
Wheel spacers 👎
No spacers...the "wheel skate" look is not my jam.
@@artcole80 Can’t run the steal wheels on an LR4 without the spacers. They are needed to clear the brakes, you can get by without them on a LR3 though.
Do you know if those tires will rub without the spacers? Thanks
They typically do. The lower offset just makes it a little worse.