600W SFX Power Supplies vs. RTX 3080 - Surprising Results

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  • @Dave2D
    @Dave2D Před 3 lety +1196

    FWIW. I tried the 600w Corsair gold on a 10900k stock with the 3080 FE. 2x16gb. 2 x 2tb nvme. Constantly shut down in aida64.

    • @optimumtech
      @optimumtech  Před 3 lety +325

      That's interesting! Do you remember what stress tests you selected? I'll see if I can replicate it on the unit I have here.

    • @azkaban3000
      @azkaban3000 Před 3 lety +35

      There’s a power limit on TUF version so the conclusion maybe invalid, other version could draw more power

    • @Dave2D
      @Dave2D Před 3 lety +221

      Optimum Tech ya I just hit all the check marks. Including the gpu. I bought my PSU in 2016 and it’s actively been in use the whole time. Not sure if that would make a diff.
      The reboots would occur sometimes within seconds of launching the test but would sometimes stay alive for a few minutes
      Draw for me never pulled over 600w that I could measure before shutdowns

    • @kayseeday
      @kayseeday Před 3 lety +14

      @@Dave2D yo what up Dave!

    • @optimumtech
      @optimumtech  Před 3 lety +122

      @@azkaban3000 There is a power limit on all versions. It's actually 20W higher on the TUF than FE.

  • @navaks5335
    @navaks5335 Před 3 lety +1847

    This channel is literally the Holy Grail of the SFF community.

    • @Shanboss277
      @Shanboss277 Před 3 lety +61

      This channel is the reason I got into mini ITX builds.

    • @quysweat
      @quysweat Před 3 lety +17

      Manu Shanboss This channel inspired me to build an itx and get back to pc gaming after 15 yrs

    • @tristanulreich4251
      @tristanulreich4251 Před 3 lety +3

      I can't wait for Big Navi Custom loop builds. I will rebuild his favourite :D

    • @stonezembarla9733
      @stonezembarla9733 Před 3 lety +3

      Manu Shanboss Totally agree. All hail to Ali!

    • @MelvinKhosa
      @MelvinKhosa Před 3 lety +10

      This channel puts Dave2d to complete and utter shame. I mean just compare the two with their 3080 reviews. Dave2d just managed to gloss over thermals and noise. I get it most people doesn't have the attention span to watch super technical stuff like Gamers Nexus or Hardware Unboxed with their 30min videos (which I love) and prefer the aesthetically pleasing catered down stuff like Dave2d but this guy is on another level. He has all of the cinematics and minimal design of Dave2d while being well more informative and capable of catering to both the casuals and the enthusiasts.

  • @ArdyIRL
    @ArdyIRL Před 3 lety +253

    You have no idea how valuable this video is to me

    • @dsandoval9396
      @dsandoval9396 Před 3 lety +2

      Exactly. Waiting to buy 3060 or 3080 with my stimulus money but had the question running around in my head if my EVGA 600w 80+ Gold was going to be enough. Then, as if by driven by Providence, I find this video.

    • @eeboy3
      @eeboy3 Před 3 lety +5

      Perhaps the price of a PSU?

    • @priyalraj285
      @priyalraj285 Před rokem

      @@dsandoval9396 so what you bought, btw is 5700g + 3070 enough for 650 watt gold?

  • @JaydenJelly
    @JaydenJelly Před 3 lety +82

    1:24 I love how smooth these transitions look

  • @oliverrrrrrrrrr
    @oliverrrrrrrrrr Před 3 lety +764

    Mate, you're an ABSOLUTE LEGEND for making this video. Been looking for concrete answers for ages. Thanks so much!

    • @tykimikk6057
      @tykimikk6057 Před 3 lety +10

      Same! This guy is a champ!

    • @poeticsilence047
      @poeticsilence047 Před 3 lety +8

      My guess is now another channel is going to do the same thing and act like they came up with it or change it just a bit. Lol

    • @amashaziz2212
      @amashaziz2212 Před 3 lety +1

      Joshua Keys Dave Lee didn’t do a test but already told in his 3080 review that 600w psus dont work.
      So don’t act like u know everything.

    • @poeticsilence047
      @poeticsilence047 Před 3 lety +9

      @@amashaziz2212 I don't know everything. No one does. I watched D2D video as well. Never understood why people,such as yourself, on CZcams have to have such animosity towards people when comments are left that you don't agree with.. All I said that another channel is going to take his idea since most tech channels show the same content.

    • @SuryanshS
      @SuryanshS Před 3 lety

      Yes thanks for making this ...

  • @freddiehill28
    @freddiehill28 Před 3 lety +97

    This is literally the question I was asking my friends a few days ago.
    You are SUCH a good source of information for SFF builds!

  • @lovelorn4154
    @lovelorn4154 Před 3 lety +13

    Absolutely stellar cinematography man, I swear each video it gets prettier with the visuals, especially in 4K,
    solid testing and information as well!

  • @skillzx5842
    @skillzx5842 Před 3 lety +5

    Great video! As a beginner in the PC build world...your videos are simple and easy to follow and learn from.

  • @Leilthold-
    @Leilthold- Před 3 lety +239

    Now we need a temp test of the sandwich layout when you get your hands in the founders edition

    • @abdulmuhaimin5274
      @abdulmuhaimin5274 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah, but still shipping yet for FE card

    • @John-cl6dv
      @John-cl6dv Před 3 lety +1

      FE cards are as much a paper launch as it gets it won't even let people get notify on Nvidia site

    • @feigelclan5560
      @feigelclan5560 Před 3 lety

      So, watching another video someone already made, can't remember his name, I believe he's English, the FE was almost 20* hotter than the Asus Tuff 3080.

    • @Tuskabanana
      @Tuskabanana Před 3 lety

      can i run 3080 with i5 7500 on be quit pure power 9 HAHHA the budget mode :O

    • @Hugh_Mungus_Johnson
      @Hugh_Mungus_Johnson Před 3 lety

      I think the FE will draw less power but make the system too hot because of its cooler design.

  • @geraldjacobs7824
    @geraldjacobs7824 Před 3 lety +275

    THANK YOU. I have a 650W sff psu, and I only have an r7 3700X cpu. I've been doing some research and going mildly crazy

    • @aspuzling
      @aspuzling Před 3 lety +32

      I love it when a video like this comes out which perfectly answers the question you had 👍

    • @whiskeylinux
      @whiskeylinux Před 3 lety +4

      Same here lol

    • @kozuta8858
      @kozuta8858 Před 3 lety +2

      Same I'm using the toughpower grand 650w

    • @OneTrue_Jonny
      @OneTrue_Jonny Před 3 lety

      Same

    • @gametests
      @gametests Před 3 lety

      Obama says that PewDiePie has bigger pp than me. Have an opportunity to smell it on ma channel before it's recommended after 10 years. Let's make this come in next lwiay! :)

  • @DavidOsornoL
    @DavidOsornoL Před 3 lety +3

    Wow! I'm so happy this channel has grown so much in such a short time! I remember when you had like 10k subs I knew you'd make it big. Your content is of high quality and I'm glad your sub count reflects it!

  • @DamianGonsalves
    @DamianGonsalves Před 3 lety +15

    Thanks for all the great work you're putting in with the 3080 testing. Really appreciate it!

  • @thecookeman
    @thecookeman Před 3 lety +286

    I think this is what lots of us were concerned about! Great to see the 600w barrier is safe. 3700x stock clocks here more than enough.
    Thanks again!

    • @gametests
      @gametests Před 3 lety

      Obama says that PewDiePie has bigger pp than me. Have an opportunity to smell it on ma channel before it's recommended after 10 years. Let's make this come in next lwiay! :)

    • @DC3Refom
      @DC3Refom Před 3 lety

      I wasn't , I do lot powes uage testing, I have lot experience with psu a d fixing thrn

    • @Zedxd
      @Zedxd Před 3 lety +10

      I have 850 watt ps, idk why im watching

    • @Zedxd
      @Zedxd Před 3 lety

      kulayeb then why did i buy a 850 w ps xD

    • @Zedxd
      @Zedxd Před 3 lety

      @kulayeb i did my research before hand, i just need 750 but i future proofed with 850w

  • @ragemydream
    @ragemydream Před 3 lety +13

    Amazing my mate and I were just discussing this last night and said "If only Optimum Tech did a video on this to be really sure" and ding it was done. Ali must be telepathic.

  • @bekahsmith1317
    @bekahsmith1317 Před 3 lety +18

    This right here is probably the MOST important video about these video cards.

  • @ktd522
    @ktd522 Před 3 lety

    JUST the info I was looking for. Thanks for taking the time!

  • @amigodesigns
    @amigodesigns Před 3 lety +67

    Man, thank you for helping the SFF community so much!
    If you get the XC3 could you try it on the Dan A4 and similar cases? (I'm almost sure that you will anyways xD)

    • @optimumtech
      @optimumtech  Před 3 lety +51

      Would love an XC3.
      EVGA pls.

    • @xjlonelystar
      @xjlonelystar Před 3 lety +5

      Optimum Tech feel like you should get way more products based on how many views you have and quality of your content

    • @AnonymousV4
      @AnonymousV4 Před 3 lety +3

      @@optimumtech Have you tried reaching out to @EVGA_JacobF on Twitter? He's a pretty cool guy

    • @francoisbouchery5537
      @francoisbouchery5537 Před 3 lety

      Optimum Tech i can’t wait for your reviews of these new GPUs on the ghost S1, formD-T1, etc. This video of PSU compatibility is more than welcome. To be honest i hope you will make a video like a build guide with compatible elements for the different cases. Thx a lot and we will all see you in the next one.

    • @Tuskabanana
      @Tuskabanana Před 3 lety

      @@optimumtech be quit pure power 9 80+ silver will work :O?

  • @Dreamweaver94
    @Dreamweaver94 Před 3 lety +3

    So happy to hear the results! Thanks again for your contributions to the SFF community.

  • @dividido3723
    @dividido3723 Před 3 lety +1

    Your insight into which videos users need is incredible! Thanks again.

  • @WaynePilot
    @WaynePilot Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for the nice and helpful review mate! I believe this is a concern that so many people especially the ITX guys have, yet you just answered. Cheers!

  • @yiepie9822
    @yiepie9822 Před 3 lety +21

    I am spooked... I checked your channel for any new videos, I refreshed, and a video popped up! xD

    • @BrumBrumBryn
      @BrumBrumBryn Před 3 lety

      Haha same here!

    • @yiepie9822
      @yiepie9822 Před 3 lety

      @@BrumBrumBryn I have a special gift where it happens for techtubers I am subscribed to! xD

  • @CWarriorxx
    @CWarriorxx Před 3 lety +250

    This is great content, and one of the first to tackle the issue many users currently have. Glad to hear that my 650W Seasonic 80+ Gold PSU will definitely be enough, especially when I'm only aiming for a 3070. Good job Ali!

    • @threecats8219
      @threecats8219 Před 3 lety +19

      650W easy for a 3070.

    • @TomBombFR
      @TomBombFR Před 3 lety +3

      I have one of those, and I'm rocking a Ryzen 5 2600 (65w TDP), so I guess it's safe to upgrade... even though I'm not actually planning on upgrading anytime soon.

    • @TheArcanis87
      @TheArcanis87 Před 3 lety +9

      Corsair RM650 gold. I decided to roll the die and not to upgrade it for the RTX 3080. System draw should be 550W, 100W headroom is not great not terrible.

    • @BGgungame
      @BGgungame Před 3 lety +2

      @@TomBombFR I run the same set up. I think it should be fine. Tbh, I wan't planing on upgrading from my rtx 2060 either, but if what NVIDIA said about 3070 is true, well I'm drooling already. So I'll probably upgrade.

    • @terryttx
      @terryttx Před 3 lety

      I have a Seasonic G 650w and 2080ti, with gsync on the psu gets veery loud. I dont know why the fan is so aggressive on seasonic psu, because its not that hot, the air coming out the psu is cold.

  • @Nutakins
    @Nutakins Před 3 lety +22

    Answering the real question on everyone's minds. Thanks mate!

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto Před 3 lety +5

    I remember powering an OG i7/Xeon and two 5770 cards on a POS 500 Watt for years. The computer always worked fine and I never had any issues. Even when I did OverClock the CPU, the PC ran well. (:
    Good video demonstration and I am glad I was able to see your results. These new GPUs are way more power hungry then I thought they would be.

  • @fohhee
    @fohhee Před 2 lety +5

    5800X with PBO On, ASUS 3080 TUF OC, 2 X 8G 3200 Ram
    1 NVME SSD, 1 SSD, 1 HDD
    280 AIO, 2 Case Fans, 1 ARGB strip
    EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G3 80+ Gold
    No Problem

  • @DDX1944
    @DDX1944 Před 3 lety +50

    The SFF community loves you, you doing god's work my man!

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 Před 3 lety

      The SFF is a form factor, it has NOTHING to do with power ratings... he could have run all of these tests on ATX form factor PSUs and the results would be applicable to every SFF form factor PSU out there. It was pointless to specify that this was an SFF form factor video, because it has nothing to do with the testing or results in this test.

    • @billycaves7194
      @billycaves7194 Před 2 lety +1

      @@wolfshanze5980 Except it isn’t pointless. I bought a Silverstone 600 watt SFX power supply for good chunk of change when that was the MOST power SFX power supplies could, well, supply. This was a PARTICULAR power limit to the SFF community as it was developing as you could already get 1000 watt ATX supplies for cheaper than what I paid. Many, many people bought the same exact power supply I did. Upgrading now to the recommended minimum 750 watts for the 3080 would cost $130-250 for an SFX format power supply depending on brand, which compares to as low as like $50 for a reliable ATX power supply if you didn’t buy a big one the first time.
      It effects a higher percent of the SFF community and the effect would be more expensive to the SFF community.

  • @AnthonyLopez-cc9nf
    @AnthonyLopez-cc9nf Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much! I looked everywhere trying to research this!

  • @campitcher8507
    @campitcher8507 Před 3 lety +1

    Was super curious about this. Thanks for doing it. My other question would be about what the thermals of the FE cards are like in an ITX case. Especially the NZXT H1.

  • @michaelsotomayor5001
    @michaelsotomayor5001 Před 3 lety +4

    this guy could review art supplies I would still watch it fervently

  • @emich34
    @emich34 Před 3 lety +32

    HERO this is exactly the video we all needed. Thanks Ali for all the great content!

  • @Rhoadspc
    @Rhoadspc Před 3 lety +1

    Really interesting video !! Much needed and appreciated great job !

  • @doomguy6435
    @doomguy6435 Před 3 lety +1

    The exact info many of us needed, super cool dude! Do you think you could check the fitment of deshrouded 3080's in an ncase m1 sometime soon?

  • @verycutetaco
    @verycutetaco Před 3 lety +230

    me looking at my thermaltake 500W: Don’t even think about it

    • @iraklimgeladze5223
      @iraklimgeladze5223 Před 3 lety +40

      you can upgrade 700$ card but cant upgrade 100$ PS?

    • @mohd5rose
      @mohd5rose Před 3 lety

      @Taco 😂

    • @justinseau
      @justinseau Před 3 lety +10

      irakli Mgeladze means the card is no longer $700, but a $800 upgrade.

    • @PutraRhm
      @PutraRhm Před 3 lety +12

      @@iraklimgeladze5223 sometimes our money can only reach the card

    • @svn5994
      @svn5994 Před 3 lety +15

      @@PutraRhm If you're that poor then you shouldn't be buying a $700+ GPU.

  • @standardcoffee2001
    @standardcoffee2001 Před 3 lety +15

    dude , ur content is clean and obvious , thank u ♥

  • @alirahmati8309
    @alirahmati8309 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the video... Exactly what I've been looking around for!

  • @lucianohauslich7606
    @lucianohauslich7606 Před 3 lety

    Very nice your video, sorry a question, What software did you used to measure the power consumption on those tests???

  • @odinsplaygrounds
    @odinsplaygrounds Před 3 lety +59

    Quality content! Handling the questions we’re all wondering about.

  • @moejazi
    @moejazi Před 3 lety +166

    How the hell do you already have 1 dislike when the video was just posted. This channel is so underrated. So much info and great videos! Keep it going brother!

    • @oliverrrrrrrrrr
      @oliverrrrrrrrrr Před 3 lety +10

      People are just weird, lol.

    • @hellnawnaw
      @hellnawnaw Před 3 lety +12

      @@lottexy You can click on the three dots that show up when you hover over the video and politely ask the algorithm to not recommend specific channels or that you're not interested in this kind of videos. That's how I got rid of minecraft videos that kept popping up in my recommendations.

    • @ashwath23
      @ashwath23 Před 3 lety +6

      Those are 2000 series owners bro.

    • @seraphiss
      @seraphiss Před 3 lety +3

      @@lottexy Once you click 'don't recommend this video' It'll come up with 'Tell us why'. Click that, and it will tell you why it's recommending these videos, it's probably becuase you watched a video with fortnite in it ages ago and forgot. You can then tick a box saying, 'don't recommend things based on this video' and you won't get any more fortnite videos!

    • @killthemall55
      @killthemall55 Před 3 lety +2

      Do u even know whats underrated means? Obviously this channel is not. Its overwhelmingly liked and praised channel. Its just not at linus level yet

  • @caspianfischer
    @caspianfischer Před 3 lety

    Awesome video as always! Would love to see you take a look at the ftw3.

  • @the80386
    @the80386 Před 3 lety

    The Cinebench power draw between stock and OC is massive! Didn't expect that big of a difference.

  • @lc3necro
    @lc3necro Před 3 lety +6

    My H1 sitting in a box waiting for the next gen Ryzen thanks you for this quality content!

  • @charl.meyers
    @charl.meyers Před 3 lety +5

    Thank you 👏. You have finally answered the ONE question I had regarding the RTX3080 that no one tried to address.

  • @enner-racing
    @enner-racing Před 3 lety

    awesome test .. thx very helpful .. how do you measure the power output .. is there a tool you can recommend?

  • @Biketrips
    @Biketrips Před 3 lety +1

    The quality of your videos is amazing. Great videography.

  • @themightiness
    @themightiness Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks so much for making this! We were all wondering this haha. I'm sure even people running 600 and 650 watt power supplies in ATX systems also have the same concerns. The only other concern I'd have is about PSU long term degradation running it at the upper limit like that, especially if you load your system often for long periods of time.

    • @Berserkism
      @Berserkism Před 3 lety

      It won't last. You run a small PSU hard, especially with such rapid and strong power draw of a GPU like the 3080 and you will eventually get voltage droop as the PSU falls out of spec faster. Shutdown. The newer Corsair stuff is built well with great ripple control, regulation etc and overbuilt but it's not a licence to abuse the hell out it and expect it to last.

    • @MegaChickenPunch
      @MegaChickenPunch Před 2 lety

      @@Berserkism you are talking out of your ass. You have zero data, just stupid guessing. PSUs have 5 and 10 year old warranties for a reason. Stop spreading fake news

  • @never0101
    @never0101 Před 3 lety +97

    So what you're saying is my little 3600 and 650w setup is going to have more than enough power. Sweet.

    • @never0101
      @never0101 Před 3 lety +20

      @@Android-ng1wn I think it was Jay that did some benchmarking and used a 3600x clocked down and while yeah there's a little performance hit, it wasn't huge.

    • @joshpafundi7529
      @joshpafundi7529 Před 3 lety +1

      Ayyy I've got the same setup. There is hope my friend. Will have to part ways with my 1060 once 3080s are actually available

    • @nolandderlugner1351
      @nolandderlugner1351 Před 3 lety

      @@joshpafundi7529 definitly, can still hit over 144hz,

    • @tashagroenewald5228
      @tashagroenewald5228 Před 3 lety +2

      Its far from little i have a 2600 😂😂😂

    • @tashagroenewald5228
      @tashagroenewald5228 Před 3 lety

      @@joshpafundi7529 i dont think ill be able to part with my 1060 for 5 years lol

  • @jonathanpurenne760
    @jonathanpurenne760 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for this. It’s answering one if the biggest question I had for building a new system.

  • @bigdhav
    @bigdhav Před 3 lety

    This information and testing is fantastic thanks as I was worried I'd need to upgrade my EVGA Supernova G2 650W PSU.

  • @pbrigham
    @pbrigham Před 3 lety +3

    Finally , some one with a useful benchmark, thanks.

  • @Vortex1988
    @Vortex1988 Před rokem +21

    Awesome video. I just recently upgraded my rig with a Ryzen 7 5800X3D and an RTX 3080, and I've been a little worried about my Corsair SF600 80+ Gold not being able to handle it. I did run Aida64 and Furmark simultaneously without issue, but it's still nice to see that someone else has gotten similar results. It's definitely given me some peace of mind.

    • @SpaceLion949
      @SpaceLion949 Před rokem +1

      It's going to run fine short term, sure, but you are putting a lot of stress of the components of the PSU. Long term it might be a different story, that should be a consideration.

    • @SpaceLion949
      @SpaceLion949 Před rokem +1

      @p It will be generally fine for most application, but you could encounter a game or program such as Doom Eternal that makes the GPU have a power spike that last in the order of micro seconds. Very short, which is not enough to affect average power consumption, but it could be enough to trip your PSU overpower protection. Both components would be working as intended, however, you could have a bad experience. That's why it is mostly recommended to buy an oversized PSU. If someday, GPUs no longer present such behavior, then you could do just fine with a 600W unit.
      In regard to how good that specific SF600 plat model is, I wouldn't know unless you tell me the brand and specific model name, so I could research. I wish choosing a PSU was as easy as looking at the 80 plus certification, but sadly is actually a more complicated topic.

    • @rawwwest
      @rawwwest Před rokem +1

      @@SpaceLion949 is 650w enough for rtx 3070?

    • @extraspicymint
      @extraspicymint Před rokem +1

      @@rawwwest yes

    • @rawwwest
      @rawwwest Před rokem

      @@extraspicymint 1 more question, is it okay, let's say i had gtx 1650 and use a 650w psu? there wouldnt be a problem right cus maybe one day i'd do that and then upgrade it to 3070

  • @ittbelitt8409
    @ittbelitt8409 Před 3 lety +1

    Yes I’ve been waiting for answers! I got a 650 in a itx case

  • @MarcParisTV
    @MarcParisTV Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for answering this question!!

  • @brodaaron
    @brodaaron Před 3 lety +3

    this is great thank you! Please do the same when the AMD 6000s come out!! Thank you!

  • @kc0181
    @kc0181 Před 3 lety +12

    Thanks for testing this. I was on the fence about going from a 2070s to a 3080 because I thought I'd have to get a new PSU.

  • @Ashtree81
    @Ashtree81 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for shedding some light on this!

  • @Dmorris556
    @Dmorris556 Před 3 lety +2

    Great Vid!
    I'd be curious to see how these do vs the 3090.

  • @gimmibox
    @gimmibox Před 3 lety +95

    SF750 is incredibly overpriced now, and I was a bit worried after Dave Lee’s video. Good to know my 600 can still work with the 3080

    • @AustinMichael
      @AustinMichael Před 3 lety +4

      just make sure you get one with only 2 eight pins

    • @FrankOnline007
      @FrankOnline007 Před 3 lety

      How much is it where you live. I can get one for €150 which is not bad for platinum rating and individual sleeved cables

    • @raulitrump460
      @raulitrump460 Před 3 lety +5

      you can afford 3080 but you cry how expensive sf750 is you must be trolling

    • @FrankOnline007
      @FrankOnline007 Před 3 lety +38

      @@raulitrump460 overpriced and expensive arent the same thing

    • @raulitrump460
      @raulitrump460 Před 3 lety +2

      @@FrankOnline007 still its not overpriced he most probaly owns intel cpu still crying obout price

  • @packinwood2009
    @packinwood2009 Před 3 lety +15

    Meh. I've had some bad experiences doing this. I ran my current system (420 watts from the wall) on a 450 watt psu. Everything was fine for about a year. Then I started getting weird crashes, lag spikes, and my SSD fried along with the sata port it was plugged into. Switched to corsair 600watt and no more problems (except my dead ssd and sata port). It was a PITA to diagnose this problem. I'd go for the 750 watt if I was going to do this. Its really not worth the time and money you might end up spending. JM2C.

    • @FalconWindblader
      @FalconWindblader Před 3 lety +1

      420 watts from the wall AIN'T 420 watts in your system. the gold, bronze, white rating on PSUs denote EFFICIENCY. assuming you using a gold one & drawing 420 watts, you'd only be feeding 90 PERCENT of that AT BEST, which is 378 watts, to your system, which in turns means that your PSU would need to draw to the VERY LIMIT to provide just 405 watts. you're practically already straining your PSU despite numbers at the wall telling you that you still have room. it's lucky in your case that shit only happens after a year.

    • @thematrix248
      @thematrix248 Před 3 lety

      Here is your answer czcams.com/video/aOYpOM8_aew/video.html

  • @lampree
    @lampree Před 3 lety

    hi ali. how much of a noise difference was there between the sf600 platinum and sf750 platinum? worth upgrading for that alone or no? i would have loved to hear a noise comparison between all of them

  • @DocGustavo
    @DocGustavo Před 3 lety +2

    just what I needed to know. Big Thanks! (:

  • @Emcfree2084
    @Emcfree2084 Před 3 lety +18

    Would have been useful to see benchmarks run with each power supply to see if any difference in performance and also some stress testing for longer periods of time.

  • @Anerx
    @Anerx Před 3 lety +4

    Man, thank you! You just saved me a lot of money!

  • @teaninja12
    @teaninja12 Před 3 lety

    Does anyone know how the wattage results were obtained/measured for the graphs ? Cheers and great video

  • @scotthartmann419
    @scotthartmann419 Před 3 lety

    Great have the H1, what about with a extra device such as the reverb 2 plugged into the video card?

  • @PROShineKITO
    @PROShineKITO Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks Ali, i won't need to update my 600 mATX and now the question is, does the 3080 have enough space in a NCASE M1?

    • @detmer87
      @detmer87 Před 3 lety

      It's not a given. He didn't do the proper testing. Igorlabs.de has proven that the RTX 3080 (read: graphics card only) over a duration of 1ms can pull a peak power consumption of 500 watts. That's lab tested with certified top-tier professional equipment...
      czcams.com/video/IicO6d4JHvg/video.html

  • @phil_matic
    @phil_matic Před 3 lety +4

    So, I'm thrilled to hear that 600W will support the 3080 easily. My question is though, because my Pc has a number of RGB items (4x LL120, 1 16GB Vengeance RGB, + 2 LED Strips) Will I still be within the limit? My case is the In Win A1 ITX

    • @mememaster8368
      @mememaster8368 Před rokem

      Leds have a negligeable impact on power draw

    • @phil_matic
      @phil_matic Před rokem

      @@mememaster8368 It's okay, I have since upgraded to a 850W anyway lol

  • @rodpad
    @rodpad Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this. Totally clears up the question of whether my NZXT H1, 3900X and a 3080 will work. FYI I've changed the fan inside my H1 PSU with a Noctua for much better acoustics.

  • @tannerpace
    @tannerpace Před 3 lety

    Hey man, I’m looking at getting a closed loop aio for my pc. I move my mini itx pc around a lot and was wondering if this would be a good idea. Could you help me please?

  • @XMG3
    @XMG3 Před 2 lety +5

    Amazing work, I think one thing that needs to be mentioned is even among RTX 3080 AIBs, there are vast variables, the TUF 3080 has 375W power limit, but the strix has 450W, so there's much higher chance for 600W to power choke with the strix than the TUF, that needs to be taken into account

    • @Kley96
      @Kley96 Před rokem

      That's the point. I wouldn't recommend a 3x8pin for 650W and lower PSU. If you plan to buy a 3080 and above with that specs, you should atleast get a 750W.

    • @angelc8700
      @angelc8700 Před rokem

      @@Kley96 You think a 750w it’s good enough for a ryzen 7 5800x and a 3080 ?

  • @jellowiggler
    @jellowiggler Před 3 lety +3

    This is a big issue that people haven't really covered yet because nobody can get the cards.
    I have a new card RX 6800 XT MSI Gaming Trio X and my EVGA 750W Supernova G2 crashes due to power draw with a stock clock Ryzen 5600x and x570 mb. Most 3080s are more intensive. Lots of people are complaining of crashes. Many with 850W PSUs even. I encourage you to keep doing this type of content because people don't even know what to buy to fix their issue.
    The other issue is power spikes caused at some points in games that are intensive with graphics or loading content. These transient spikes can be up to double what the card is normally doing.
    I find the best one for me to try on is Elite Dangerous when jumping systems. If you run at 1440p, 120hz, ULTRA, 2xMSAA it will crash to reboot about 30%-50% of the time.

  • @michaelchoy177
    @michaelchoy177 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for the great info...im also running a corsair sf600 on my ncase m1.. at least i have a peace of mind now that i can purchase an rtx 3070..
    If you dont mind.. can i ask whats the name of your background tube light?

  • @chandlergreff3113
    @chandlergreff3113 Před 3 lety +1

    What kind of cables did you use for connecting the 3x 8 pin to the SF 600? A splitter?

  • @GH1987
    @GH1987 Před 3 lety +42

    Welp the shortage of 700w bronze and 650w Gold (I faced in Egypt) late 2017 when searching for a PSU led me into getting a 850w Gold PSU
    you could say: I came looking for bronze and I found gold

    • @campkira
      @campkira Před 3 lety +1

      this is why i just used laptop.. two adaptor if i can run just one i just run with one... if need more power just put another one it... if i want to go on travel i just taken it with me.. and play with one adaptor..

  • @moldoveanu8
    @moldoveanu8 Před 3 lety +3

    Yayyy, my sf600 will do. I have a more efficient CPU anyways. Thanks for the video.

  • @SERGE_Tech
    @SERGE_Tech Před 3 lety

    SUBSCRIBER: Hey man, where did you get these sweet beats? Really enjoying it.

  • @OniMetsuki
    @OniMetsuki Před 3 lety

    That's what I thought. I'm running an Antec 650w Platinum.
    However if your PSU is some years old I would recommend blowing out the dust with a compressed air line or an air can etc if you can one way or another, ideally without opening it up as the bigger Caps are really rather dangerous. I had a Seasonic some years back that was a few years old, my case had dust filters and when I looked through the PSU's mesh it looked really clean inside. Then one night it went POP and released foul smelling fumes...
    Turns out some super fine lint had collected in a corner out of sight covering a choke and some caps and cooked them till they popped !

  • @vlad3060
    @vlad3060 Před 3 lety +4

    Glad to see that 600W is usable with the 3080. Thank you for running these tests for all of us! With current power supply prices now spiking, i'm glad people don't *have* to spend $200+ USD for a 750+ W model.

    • @Gorilazz.
      @Gorilazz. Před 2 lety

      You should upgrade to a bigger power supply like a 1000w because it’s not good running a small psu at max capacity. Check out gamers nexus videos on it. That’s a fire hazard.

    • @samueladitya1729
      @samueladitya1729 Před rokem +1

      ​@@Gorilazz. just don't use cheap no name or gigabyte psu.

  • @xxxgabaxxx
    @xxxgabaxxx Před 3 lety +119

    Remember that if it’s pulling 500w out of the wall, your system is only taking like 450w since they are usually 90% efficient...

    • @Wizongod
      @Wizongod Před 3 lety +20

      Indeed. I think most people forget about that when taking measurements from the wall. A 600W PSU will SUPPLY 600W and will take a bit more. Efficiencies are usually around 90-95% depending on which part of the curve the system is at, but drawing 600W from the wall would still mean 5-10% headroom!

    • @hyakinthos_0902
      @hyakinthos_0902 Před 3 lety +1

      power supplies have 600w in 12v rail itself and some more at 5v(about50a) and 3.3v(30a) so when choosing a cpu and gpu if the power draw meets the demand all is good
      100 watts of heats can be dissipated very easily coz of almost 5-8x more surface area than a cpu Ihs(yeah) so yea all chill

    • @Wizongod
      @Wizongod Před 3 lety +1

      @Johnfuse Ah, pardon me. I was using the SF600(plat) as the reference because I'm assuming it's what most people on ITX builds are sporting (including me). I did forget to mention that I'm on 230Vac (similar to Ali who's in Australia). Both of us get a slightly more efficient curve up to 94% peak (which I rounded to 95%) and staying above 90% under any significant loads all the way to max rating. Any non plat supply will definitely be lower though, especially his RM850x which he first presented as baseline, although he did a cursory mention of having observed spikes above 600W on the SF600 power supplies he tested.

    • @namesbinge3073
      @namesbinge3073 Před 3 lety

      @Johnfuse have a titanium PSU.

    • @Penofhell
      @Penofhell Před 3 lety +4

      Can't believe I had to come so far down to see this comment.
      Please upvote this.
      This is not how you measure the power delivered by the PSU, the measure at the wall is the total consumption including the efficiency of the PSU. Assuming a 80% efficiency you can multiply the measurement by 0.8 to get a rough idea of how much the pc is consuming... But even then it's not ideal, because the efficiency/power draw curve isn't linear.

  • @AurionLooker
    @AurionLooker Před 3 lety

    This is such a relief, especially since I JUST built my first desktop into the NZXT H1. People kept telling me that I needed to upgrade, but I'm running a Ryzen 7 3700x, so I didn't quite see the point since it doesn't draw near as much power as some other CPU's.

  • @darrensoldan5972
    @darrensoldan5972 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video! Very important information that I think a lot of people miss when considering a new gpu

  • @grantman102002
    @grantman102002 Před 3 lety +6

    Should have mentioned something about efficiency ranges with power supplies. I believe their Gold/Platinum ratings are achieved at 80% of rated power, meaning that even though they may work on the limits as pictured here they may not be efficient. I would bet that getting the SF750 in order to make sure it's in it's efficiency range would pay for itself over time vs the SF600...

  • @best1011
    @best1011 Před 3 lety +8

    i am 2 day on your channel
    LIKE
    good contect
    i dont speak english
    i see with subtitres and all god)
    waiting other 3080
    and PRICE/QUALITY verdict

  • @Arshumness
    @Arshumness Před 3 lety +2

    This is the best tech channel on youtube. I'm biased because I like SFF PCs, but I am continually impressed with this channel's ability to answer my questions before I have asked them.

  • @intensify4521
    @intensify4521 Před 3 lety

    Are you going to be doing a fit testing with cases? I'm interested in the TUF version of the 3080. Wondering if it will fit in an NR200 with NF-A12x25's mounted on the bottom panel.

  • @SteveReed33
    @SteveReed33 Před 3 lety +19

    Can you do some testing with Cinebench and Furmark or Heaven running at the same time? These gaming tests aren't testing the theoretical maximum output of the system.
    My System Pulls 600W with RTX2080 from the wall on full synthetic loads so i'll be interested to see if I can crack the limit of my 750W power supply once my 3080 arrives....... Whenever that may be.

  • @clementfrance2905
    @clementfrance2905 Před 3 lety +16

    Me looking at my 850W PSU : "we're good 👍"

    • @whiskizyo2067
      @whiskizyo2067 Před 3 lety +4

      better make it a 1000w just in case

    • @Criticalmcsr
      @Criticalmcsr Před 3 lety +2

      you should go 1200w just in case

    • @pangtundure
      @pangtundure Před 3 lety +2

      @@Criticalmcsr better go 1600W for full confidence

    • @CalculatedRisk
      @CalculatedRisk Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, I'm thinking 3000w to remove all doubt

    • @CMBoydon
      @CMBoydon Před 3 lety +3

      Get 3080w to be absolutely sure

  • @thecookeman
    @thecookeman Před 3 lety

    Ali, are you going to do a follow up video to show what cards fit in your collection of sff cases?

  • @StrangerSinTV
    @StrangerSinTV Před 3 lety

    This is great but Im wondering if these would be okay when everything plugged into the pc is taken into consoderation. Will the NZXT still work with 2x QHD Ultrawides, a couple hard drives, and 8 USB 3 devices plugged in?

  • @ioi7181
    @ioi7181 Před 3 lety +13

    Thank you so much for doing this, you saved me about $30 usd

    • @TheGauges420
      @TheGauges420 Před 3 lety +5

      If you're worried about saving something as measly as $30, then you cant afford a $700 gpu, and a proper monitor to take advantage of it.

    • @gutterg0d
      @gutterg0d Před 3 lety

      @@TheGauges420 It's obviously not only about $30. Savings can easily stack up to hundreds of dollars saved over time when upgrading multiple components.

    • @offset543
      @offset543 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheGauges420 if he can save that 30 every month the savings would exceed the price of the 3080 over 2 years until 4000 series.

    • @TheGauges420
      @TheGauges420 Před 3 lety +2

      @@offset543 every month? So hes upgrading his GPU every month and saving $30 by not upgrading his PSU? It doesnt quite work that way, he isnt saving $30/mo but instead $30 over the life of the GPU as a whole, which can be anywhere from 2-5 years, which makes that $30 savings practically worthless.

    • @offset543
      @offset543 Před 3 lety

      @@TheGauges420 I'm saying $30 is not a measly sum. It's a whole months worth of payment towards a flagship card.

  • @Jupa
    @Jupa Před 3 lety +3

    Wondering whether a seasonic 550w platinum rated at 92% will be perfectly to use? Would this be somewhat similar to the average gold PSU rated at 600w?

    • @satchef1
      @satchef1 Před 3 lety

      Going to come down to how power hungry the CPU is I think.
      Would have liked some more content on this aspect TBH. How does the SF450 fare with a stock Ryzen 5 3600, for example? I think that would have given some interesting insights.

  • @gasoline9456
    @gasoline9456 Před 3 lety

    I was worried that I might have to upgrade but now I'm pretty confident I'll be fine with my 600W 80+ Silver PSU for my slightly overclocked Ryzen 5 and a 3070, 6800 or 6800 XT(waiting for third party benchmarks on those after release). Thanks a lot for the video!

  • @BrilliantBenGaming
    @BrilliantBenGaming Před rokem +1

    I've revisited this video (liked and subscribed) now having an RTX3080 TUF 12gb and currently run a 760ax power supply from Corsair. This video is incredibly informative. Is there reasoning behind the recommended power supply? I assume this is based on a maximum or average power draw? My system is an older build but still runs very well. cpu i7-4790k and a gtx1070. I plan to build a new amd system with this GPU but I want to start using it now and also to validate my GPU is working ootb. Thank again for the video!

  • @BobbyCash814
    @BobbyCash814 Před 3 lety +3

    Doing God's work. Thank you for answering all the questions that everyone has about the new Ampere cards.

  • @emrexis
    @emrexis Před 3 lety +16

    600watt might be fine for a while.. However I have this same exact dilemma when I was upgrading my GPU to a Vega 64. AMD also reccomending 750watt PSU but lots of people on the internet saying 600watt is enough for that GPU (My system is an itx i7 8700k non OC with corsair SF600 gold psu)
    After running the card for almost a year suddenly I encounter many sudden crash when loading a game or during the gameplay that prompt the system to trip. Since then I upgrade to an SF750 and have no problem.
    I think it’s safer to run a GPU with a PSU wattage that are reccomended by vendor.. Not only for the piece of mind but for a quiter system. imo as long as the power drawn from the PSU is around 80% of the PSU maximum power it is safe for the long run... Just my two cents ✌️
    Oh yeah I gave the old SF600 to a friend running 1650 super and r3 3100.. so far he encountered no problem 😄

    • @xXrocktigerXx
      @xXrocktigerXx Před 3 lety

      I want buy a Vega 64 but I have a psu 600w :'v

    • @threecats8219
      @threecats8219 Před 3 lety +2

      I have been running a 1080 Ti and 8700K, both at stock clocks for over two years. Never had issues with a Corsair RM650i. … I did however after one year, buy a Corsair HX750i, because it was a platinum rated PSU. It would also run my power consumption more in its middle range than the 650W. … Anyway am set for whatever comes, and I have a back up PSU that I can swap out easy. Just change over the PSU box, leaving the modular cables in place. (Except the motherboard power cable which has a different fitting on the PSU.)

    • @sendhelp3828
      @sendhelp3828 Před 3 lety

      @@threecats8219 Isn't it not recommended and bad to keep cables when swapping? or does Corsair use interchangeable modular cables between the models? Either way i'd feel a little dirty using old cables but that's just me 🤷‍♂️

    • @threecats8219
      @threecats8219 Před 3 lety

      @@sendhelp3828 Yeah the Corsair RM650i and HX750i which I have are modular. The cables were not old by any means. Neither are they dirty, because I use a case with filtered air-intakes. Inside my PC is clean, and it only ever gets at worst, a fine layer of dust. Then I just vac it, because I clean my CPU tower at least every year. Plus I go in my PC case often to do something or other, and if there is dust I clean. There is no harm at all leaving cables from one PSU in place to use with another PSU. The HX750i has ribbon cabling, compared to round cables on the RM650i, but that doesn't make any difference.
      Afterthought. I suppose it would be a good idea to swap the cables for the GPU over. Since the HX750i GPU cables are possibly designed to take more current. At the moment I still have my 1080Ti in place, which was running on the old PSU and its cables. However the likelihood that the RM650i cables can't carry the current that the HX750i can, is slim. Better to swap them over when I get a new GPU though. Better to be safe than sorry. Yeah, thank you for leaving a message for me, otherwise I might never have thought to change GPU cables.

    • @sendhelp3828
      @sendhelp3828 Před 3 lety

      @@threecats8219 Hmm fair enough. I actually ended up doing a little research about it and came to the conclusion Corsair modular cables are actually compatible across the different series via this www.corsair.com/us/en/psu-cable-compatibility Where it states "The only difference between Type 3 and Type 4 cables is the pinout of the 24-pin ATX cable; all other cables (SATA, PCIe, etc) are the same." so that's the only thing to watch out for. Still stands that i just feel kinda sketchy reusing existing cables.

  • @Tstorm731
    @Tstorm731 Před 3 lety +1

    This was so helpful. Thank you.

  • @robinthalco
    @robinthalco Před 3 lety +1

    EXACTLY what i was looking for

  • @Mre942
    @Mre942 Před 3 lety +3

    If you need to uundervolt, then it's better going with a 3070

    • @Mre942
      @Mre942 Před 3 lety

      @@Android-ng1wn xD that won't make the psu produce more power xD

  • @wadeweaver979
    @wadeweaver979 Před 3 lety +5

    This earned an 'all' notification bell from me. Nice job sir.

    • @Dennzer1
      @Dennzer1 Před 3 lety

      Doesn't take much to impress the hell out of you.

    • @wadeweaver979
      @wadeweaver979 Před 3 lety

      @@Dennzer1 you're god damn right.

    • @Dennzer1
      @Dennzer1 Před 3 lety

      @@wadeweaver979 As long as you know.

  • @Zywl
    @Zywl Před 3 lety

    good, thanks for this analysis man, I was worried I had to change my 650w PSU

  • @Headbangerr-en2cc
    @Headbangerr-en2cc Před 3 lety +2

    This video is exactly, what i needed - Corsair SF600 owner here.