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Sounds like you never played the game and just read a script that had you say also I do like your videos put doing ads for these shiity phone game is just shitty thing to do
I'm one of the ”top solvers” in the discord that you mentioned. I was honestly a bit worried about such a big channel making a video about it, since even many cubing-related channels have gotten things wrong. But I think you nailed it! It's always sad when things like this happen but hopefully it at least gets some more people interested in cubing or FMC. Great work as always!
Congrats! The mind-blowing achievements of generally unknown communities of male virgins have always been interesting, but now I am also aware of your particular obscure community of virgins, and I salute you, right up there with the rest of them. Sometimes I wonder what even I might achieve, if I weren't so distracted by the vag.
It's an incredibly impressive feat, man. I would gladly watch a video of a championship of cubing. It's just a shame that this is how I'm hearing about it. 😔
Its not like nobody knew about this hobby before. I know it exists. I just have absolutely 0 interest in it. A youtube video isnt going to magically make lots of people interested in your niche hobby. So dont worry.
At 9:20 the other top player that said he ran 1 million sims and couldn't match it is confusing. Clearly a computer can find these solves quite quickly, so that seems contradictory.
@@elusivecameldidn't he run the simulations using the standard methods of solving a rubiks cube instead of the way computers do it? if it wasn't done like this the simulations would be pointless
@@elusivecamel I think the way the first sim did was utilizing the strategies commonly used from scrambled to solved. What the cheat did was to start from solved, and go in reverse, which gives you a solution straight away without doing any branching path checking.
He's somewhat branching out to cheating in other game competitions a bit while keeping the focus mostly on video games, but i don't mind it at all. still very interesting to watch.
@@HM-rz8nv I actually didn't know there was such a thing as Fewest Moves for Rubik's Cube. I'm kinda tempted to sit down and try some of this during downtime at work. I never thought about competitive Rubik's cube play because I don't have the hand-eye coordination for fast movement.
@@jolienewashington342 I don't mind just as long as it's consistently engaging. When it concerns Billy Mitchell, he totally deserves to milk his ass after the huge amount of trouble and major expenses of time, money and personal health he's caused Karl, though i usually don't watch those videos.
@@chairmanbrandoCan't tell if you're serious or not, but I genuinely can't think of any other explanation. Nothing else is even remotely near any lines, so that must be what crossed it
What Karl's vids taught me is that there are only really two kinds of cheaters: Frustrated Pros who are fed up with performing below what they believe they should be able to, and newbies who appear out of nowhere setting new records
@@mb2776 nah as a speedcuber id never defend him lmfao. theres normally rules around scramble handling and having multiple delegates so delegates can alternate scrambling and competiting.
@@boltcuber9242 Yeah but it should be as simple as no delegates are permitted to compete. Then they change out the delegates for each competition. Though surely there might be a few people who dont even want to compete, and instead just help with the scrambles 🤔
Man, I didn't even know those cubes HAD a clutch to pop! Amazing! Relax, folks, I'm being sarcastic. But you already knew that, because you're an absolute legend. :)
I'm a fairly high-level speedcuber, who doesn't know much about video games/speedrunning, and you did a very good job at explaining the situation and principles, setting aside minor terminology aspects, that didn't take away from the main points in question. Thank you to fellow speedcuber Noah Swor for his valuable input. Seeing the quality and integrity of journalism in a field outside of your usual topics, I'm intrigued in learning more about the speedrunning/video game side of things. I realise, my combinations of interests is the opposite to those of the main audience here, to which I just want to say, we are a welcoming and trustworthy community most of the time, so this event was shocking, along with the breach of trust that came with it. I hope the Sri Lankan cubing community can continue to prosper in spite of this. To everyone else reading: keep on pursuing what you're doing, keep learning, and trust your instincts. If you're interested in some aspects of speedcubing, I'd gladly answer your questions
why should there be? most, if not all, delegates are speedcubers, and like making progress and breaking their records at comps. if they are the sole delegate at a competition, and no one else is experienced or even has the credentials to access the tnoodle software to generate them (which is what is required for generating scrambles for official wca comps), how would it even be possible to have the scrambles for the comp if the delegate cant generate them. or are you saying delegates shouldn't be able to compete at all at comps they are delegating at? that is a bit more reasonable, but still doesn't make sense since delegating is a thankless job and a volunteer work, so you don't get paid, yet they are expected to go to all of these competitions month after month without ever competing in them? 50% of the reason people go to comps IS to compete in them and get good results. and a good chunk of delegates are really competitive, a lot of them regularly breaking world records. it seems difficult and tricky to implement it, but i don't disagree with you. there is just a lot more nuance than you might give it credit for
People have to go through a process before becoming delegates, which involves being trusted by other delegates, so theoretically only trustworthy people are able to do this. Also, it's usually the case that a delegate not competing in FMC generates the scrambles, but sometimes this isn't possible, as in the case of the competitions where Kalindu was the only delegate. He was the only Sri Lankan delegate, so there was no one else able to generate scrambles.
@@ChrisChoi123You could have scrambles generated offsite and sent in if printed scrambles are needed, or generated online when needed if digital scrambles are fine
@@thelippyserver58 It's not really an oversight, it's just the unfortunate reality of a niche organisation being run by volunteers. The most experienced and dedicated people (the people you'd want to officiate events) are almost always active competitors themselves. We've known it was abusable for a long time and take measures to avoid it where possible, but sometimes it has to happen or the competition won't take place 🤷♂️
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Billy Mitchell did it in 1 move back in 1986, Todd Todgers witnessed it. /s
Imagine having so much ego about your intelligence level that you actually try and cheat in the rubiks cube world. That's like trying to cheat against mathematics itself, attempting to tell mathematics itself that ITS THE ONE THATS LYING? The maths doesn't lie bruh.
It's equivalent to a teacher generating the exams, then googling the answers to get almost every question right, including questions that he didn't know how to solve.
If you ever really wonder why people do this, his first sentence really says it all - "First of all, thanks to all the people that congratulated me for my achievement." We're actually pretty simple - we like validation from others. So inevitably some people don't want to do any of the work and just skip to the rewards, no matter how askew the whole situation becomes or how many others it detriments.
One thing to ads about why speedcubing doesn't optimize for fewest moves: it's not just that it's difficult to find the fewest moves solution, but it would be pointless to do so anyway. Speedcubing relies heavily on algorithms, which sre sequences of moves players learn by heart and develop muscle memory for. You'd much rather execute a sequence of 10 moves you've done literally tens of thoudands of times before and can do it almost instantly versus a 5 move sequence that you've never executed before and would consequently take you longer to do.
Hold on 0:46 I'm in a Karl Jobst video. Time to add this to my resumé Edit: Occurred to me it might be ambiguous, the person in the the clip is not myself, and is Ruihang Xu of China competing at the World Championship final in 2023, the footage is sourced from my channel
And you aren't the subject! That's a huge W. Unless you just pulled off a speedrun feat that was previously thought to be impossible you better hope a cameo is all you have in his video.
Hey Karl! Speedcuber here, amazing video this is a very unfortunate situation and it’s certainly a shame this is the first exposure to cubing for many of your viewers but you handled it very well! One little note I’d like to add is that in the WCA’s investigation of Kalindu they actually asked for two files, a JSON file with data about scramble generation that can be easily edited and a PDF file and it’s meta data that can’t be edited, funnily enough Kalindu only sent them the JSON files but without editing.
something important to mention is that less moves also doesnt mean that it's necessarily faster. There are certain sequences of moves that are more comfortable to perform, and therefore faster. you can see this difference in how long it takes for someone to scramble the cube versus performing an algorithm with the same number of moves
4:30 i would like to add, it's probably faster to execute the 33 moves used to solve for world record than it is to use only 20 moves, because of the algorithms, its easier to do 10 moves a second than the meticulous direct order
I learned the basic method which only requires learning 3 algorithms. Then I saw the hundreds of algorithms the Pros use, so I decided work on my turn speed 😂
The reason there are so few cheating scandals in speedcubing is because the official records have to be set in official live competitions. It's like if every speedrun world record had to be set at a live GDQ event
which is just the standard procedure for every other competitive activity humans have ever invented. I don't understand why video game competitors keep trying to reinvent the wheel.
@@mrosskne When it comes to WR's videogame speedrunning is done live in 90% of cases. It's just usually done over a stream or something. The reason for this usually amounts to logistics and the sheer number of variables. Things like speedcubing are much easier to organize, monitor and provide supplies and support for. In videogames it's a lot more complicated. Something GDQ provides materials for speedrunners, but they can't provide a ton of systems, within a stable and standardized environment very easily. Older consoles often either need a CRT, or to be modded to work with HDMI, or to use a converter - the last two introduce lag. Another thing is that these older consoles are getting up there in age. Yes most all older games are speedran on real authentic hardware - but some emulated speedruns are allowed (emulation introduces yet again more latency, PLUS the unintended side effect of varying inaccurate clockspeeds, and even bugs or glitches that don't exist with original hardware). The other thing to keep in mind is that physical media has also began to deteriorate, or become "collectors items" making it difficult to provide an adequate amount of software to a large number of competitors. Organizers could create their own flashcarts (the tech is relatively easy and accessible now) but may receive legal correspondence from the related publishers, and companies that own the IP (looking at you Nintendo) GDQ can provide a limited amount of hardware and software thanks to either donations, or loans from people who are gracious enough to help. Essentially the idea is that it becomes too expensive, and difficult to organize and run massive live competitions for things like WR's. So a happy medium is streaming those attempts and having the competitor provide their own equipment. Now you might argue that they could provide their own equipment at the live event - which IS fair, but again I will reiterate that the value of the items needed can vary to sometimes quite ludicrous numbers. This makes taking your equipment with you risky, and keep in mind... some of these items are actually pretty rare too - making it difficult for the competitor to replace in some circumstances. The logistics are just way to all over the place to effectively organize and run live events for speedrunning. We've come a long way in cheat detection with streaming too. People can find splices, discrepancies with input detection - and more. So ironically the answer is basically: It's complicated.
@@mrosskne The wheel is not getting reinvented. Video games WRs are still set live, and any that isn't is automatically disregarded... And there's the whole process of verifying the runs which is harder for some games, hence the fact there's always some kind of cheating scandal going on. Some games have RNG mechanics, some require perfect movement, some can even crash midrun. Imagine trying to organize actual competitions for games that require thousands of tries until a new WR is set. Are the runners supposed to do it first try? or can they reset until they get a decent run? maybe a time limit? Hell no. No WRs would be set this way.
Alot of video games have speed run communities. Fromsoft Souls games alone have 7 active games that people enjoy speed running, and that is just 1 single smaller company's product. Mario has SO MANY games people speed run. Very hard to set up events when there are like a million records people are competing for across different games
How commendable is that Karl takes the time to research everything related with the competitive scene in question even if it's out of the realm of gaming to share a concise idea of it.
Sure, his excuses were bad, but no one will ever _ever_ EVER top Prince Andrew on that. "I couldn't have been with that girl in that picture of me and that girl because I'm sweaty in that picture and I didn't sweat, back then, at all, for a while, because of the war, or something."
If that wasn't possible, many competitions wouldn't happen at all. Remember that the WCA is a volunteer organisation, and that almost all delegates are cubers themselves (many are particularly interested in FMC as well). For them, getting to compete and break their own records is a good incentive to host more comps. Becoming a delegate also involves other delegates trusting you and recommending you to the wca as a potential new delegate. Simply banning delegates from competing at their own comps seems like an easy solution, but it's really not that simple.
Well unlike government officials, they don't get paid. They are also trained for years to be able to handle these things and are usually hand picked to be trustworthy.
@@kyh148 Are you saying there is no possible way for them to get a person who doesn't compete in a competition to generate a scramble for that competition?
It's such a ridiculous compliment to give to your entire audience, and we don't care lol. It's such a great opener for reasons I do not understand, the man has talent. It's the kind of greeting you'd give a special forces team who just averted nuclear war, yet here we are watching the most low stakes investigation of all time.
@@friedsenseito me, it's a cultural touch only he can bring. He investigates and debunks legends, and attributes us as such. As he has the power to remove legends, he raises us to legend. Which we are, not as ourselves, but raising him further by viewership to Legend Killer. ...maybe I've been too deep in fantasy lore lately.
Congrats on 1 million subscribers Karl! You’re easily one of the best content creators out there. Thanks for all the laughs and the best of luck to you and the future of this channel!
I got a "this content might not be appropriate for all users" pop up when I clicked on this video. I had to hit continue intentionally. Really weird, I can't imagine that this video has anything wrong with it
I can't believe people would doubt Kalindu like this. The fact is, he was personally trained by both Tommy Tallarico and Billy Mitchell, two legends at the sport.
@@sdsign4229 I think most of it has been covered already. Could still do a deep dive, but it would all be old news since Tommy has been in hiding for a couple years.
Yeah, imagine if you were a head judge at a mtg or yugioh tournament and you also could participate. Just disqualify anyone you want, you're the head judge, they literally cannot ban, appeal or do anything about it.
@@youtube-kit9450 yeah, you could also just check your opponent's deck list before every round and even look at pairings before they're officially announced.
I was thinking the same thing. Why in the world would you let the guy who set up the event, and (in this case) SET UP THE SCRAMBLES (you know, the one variable to this event) take part in it? Even if he wasn't cheating, he still would have seen the cubes before hand. That's like a student helping to make the test.
@@SquallLeonE I play VGC which is the competitive format of the switch games (currently Scarlet & Violet). The benefits you would get are immense. We play Open team sheet format. That means that at the beginning of the match, you get a list that contains all the Pokémon on your opponent's team including items, tera types and moves. If you could participate in your own tournaments you would be able to make a plan way in advance when during a regular match the only preparation time you get is the in-game team selection screen which gives you 90 seconds to think. But that is not even the biggest advantage. As the organizer you receive what is called the closed team sheet from every player. That team sheet contains all the data that is in the open team sheet PLUS all the stats of your Pokémon. One of the biggest skills in Pokémon VGC is gathering information about your opponent's team and hiding as much information as possible about your own team. Having access to the closed team sheet would eliminate that entire aspect as you would already know how your opponent's Pokémon are trained. You would know, which Pokémon outspeeds which, you could calculate whether you can one-hit KO certain Pokémon on your opponent's team or which moves your own Pokémon can survive and so on. You could basically play hyper-aggressive without risking anything as you already know all the information you need whereas your opponent needs to play conservatively and passive.
I love your videos dude. And I really enjoy how accessible you make these really complex subjects, learned so much while watching a cheater get busted. Another awesome video.
10:15 I was going to make a joke about him being the Todd Todgers of the Rubik’s Cube world for “verifying” his own scores, and he’s also literally claiming he started in 2nd gear too. Todgers would be proud.
Wow! I never would've expected Karl to cover a cubing related scandal, but im glad he is! For those of you who are new to the cubing community, a majority or cubing competions and competitors are NOT like this guy, the community is very kind and welcoming to new cubers! If youre looking to get into cubing, just lookup any tutorial on CZcams, its that easy!
@@SlingshotFooty It's just about practice practice practice, no matter how difficult it may seem, if you just keep on trying you'll start understanding it more bit by bit! It also helps if you ask questions on stuff you may get confused about, which other cubers would love to answer!
The greatest thing about this is that pretty much anything you can think of has a community of vigilant people willing to call bullshit on someone at the drop of a hat.
I see _"Rubiks"_ and _"cheating"_ and immediately flash back to the 80's, when you'd ask to see your friend's completed Rubik's Cube and immediately notice a bunch of suspiciously wonky stickers on each side with the edges curling up... almost like someone had peeled them off... 🤔
If he also had an internet connection, most modern OSes simply won't let it happen, unless you do several very specific and intentional things... There are legitimate reasons to do that, but none of them involve using your PC as normal afterwards... So, if he really had a date manually set 40 days in the past, it was almost certainly for cheating on something else. And if he didn't, he simply lied.
A fun thing about this claim (besides being absurd) is that it is verifiable by looking at logs from the computer. If you confirm the current system time, then look at the system logs, it will contain even the smallest corrections to the clock. So whether his current clock is right ("I fixed it") or wrong ("see? 40 days off!") you can easily verify gaps or changes. Granted, that's probably further than you need to go with this much evidence against him.
@@loucam08 Oh dear! I finally finished the age registration with this account, since.. well I am over 18, so yeah, now I get it. I wonder if for Karl, just financially, it's worth it to have a sponsorship knock an age restriction on the video, so, at the very least some people, won't be able to watch the video. Whether they aren't willing to give google that info, or actually aren't 18 yet.
it's deeply funny to me that an ad itself is the thing getting a video demonetized. I haven't used youtube without an adblocker for years now but the way I hear it, it's on par with the ads they play on people's videos too. And yet those ads themselves often aren't suitable for advertisers. What a dystopian hellscape website
I really enjoy how your in-depth research into cheating scandals teaches me a lot about other games I'm not familiar with! It's a perfect combination of learning and entertainment.
I like to imagine Billy Mitchell, in his basement, just obsessively like "What's Karl going to do next..." and then Karl's just like "haha Rubik's Cube go brrr"
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 nah, Karl is reacting to Billy's petty lawsuit by reporting on what's happening. Billy is the one who can't admit cheating. Edit: "It's ya boi, Raid Shadow Legends!"
I entered the speed cubing scene in 2007 and was very into it from 2008 to about 2013. It was wild to see it evolve during that time. I found all my old puzzles and cubes in my attic last year and have been enjoying it again casually in my downtime after almost a decade away from it. Fast forward to 15 minutes ago, I had just solved a couple of my puzzles, decided to see what was new on CZcams, and holy crap Karl Jobst had JUST posted a video on one of my most obscure yet beloved pastimes that I enjoyed during my teenage years. Karl, you are an absolute legend.
Good to see a fellow old (lol) cuber! I started in 2006. I encourage you to join a competition to refresh your skill and memories! There are so many comps these days it’s completely different from our times 😂 Also be sure to check out the newer cubes. The cubes now are insane. If you haven’t tried newer cubes, I recommend Tornado V3 for 3x3, WRM for 4x4, and of course the new Gan 562m for 5x5. Happy cubing!
In all my life I have NEVER come across a video about Rubik's Cube being *age restricted* before, this is the first ever one. It's truly astonishing, to say the least.
Honestly this is why in 95% of games that have competitive-level play, judges/delegates/etc are not usually allowed to play in competitions they're in charge of, and if they are allowed to play, they are scrutinized to a level beyond that of the normal player. Take YuGiOh for instance, as a judge I basically say "I will not play in this tournament" whenever I opt to judge. Now YGO isn't as cheatable by a judge/organizer as a rubik's cube tournament--I don't randomize player's decks for them--but this concept is why it's a thing.
Nah, imagine you were head judge at an event and played there at the same time. "You cheated, game loss lol get fuk'd" at every opponent and since you're the head judge, no one could appeal. That would be complete insanity.
Mtg, basically the same. Judges are allowed to compete in smaller FNM but are not allowed to make game calls. Most of the time, as u can imagine, they get asked regardless but most don't even provide any answer cause of the conflict of interest.
@@scottrobinson4611 You really are just painting a terrible picture of the community if you say delegates will only organize events if they can participate, and how the "retirement" position still wants to participate, and how apparently the only people keeping the sport alive are delegates and not... the actual community... In other sports/games, people constantly host tournaments and don't participate because they like the events and the community, and aren't just selfish people who just want to make a tournament to participate themselves. It also speaks of an insane lack of integrity in the community if the organizers don't just say "yeah this is a huge conflict of interest" and step down voluntarily, and just makes them look super selfish.
The sacrifices being made are obvious aren't they? In exchange for settling on rules based around what is an assumption about the only possibility for rapid growth (and assuming that rapid growth is what's most important for the sport), there is a commitment to a system which begs to be exploited and the video demonstrates that exact scenario playing out. Once a controversy happens that damages the reputation of a sport you care about so badly that people start to leave, it's too late. If ya'll love and care about something, treat it as such -- growth doesn't have to happen all at once.
omg, i’m a former speedcuber! most competitors are teens with better reflexes, better motor control, more brain power, and more free time than grown ups so unfortunately we all grow out of it one day. but such a fun throwback. great job, man.
I didn’t know this was a category. Different from the usual gaming videos, but you did great at explaining everything! It’s always funny when people don’t expect the the experts to chump check them 😂
the cool thing about how the algorithms tend to be for larger order cubes(4x4x4, 5x5x5, ect) is if you learn how to solve a 4 layer and 5 layer you can essentially solve any size cube, it just takes exponentially longer as you go up
Yeah once you can handle cubes with more than one edge, in both even and odd number situations, the problem can be solved iteratively at any higher number. Just solve the innermost layer and then treat the next tier as if it was a cube 2 layers smaller than initially (I think)
@@baconsarny-geddon8298 knowing 3x3 I can figure out 4x4 in an hour or so, but 5x5 always takes so long I lose interest. But if I could learn and retain both 4x4 and 5x5 then XxX would be trivial
@@imperator9343I like your induction-based proof, but this isn't exactly what it looks like in practice. The solving methods for big cubes don't iteratively reduce to smaller order puzzles, rather all big cubes use the method of reducing it to a 3x3x3 directly. It is just that the principles of solving centers and pairing up edge pieces can easily and intuitively be extended to higher-order cubes
As a long time fan of your channel and a speedcuber, I really appreciate the research you've done for the topic as well as great explanation so non-cubers can understand what exactly went down
I love your videos that talk about cheating. Mainly because you do such a good job explaining whats going on that i can understand it and learn about the competitive side of these games.
@@Armi1P “rubix cube” is a very common one, prime (the drink company) sponsors max park (the current rubik’s cube world champion) and prime accidentally spelled it as “rubix cube” on their website (its fixed now)
On one hand, it seems like this whole community is too trusting and that there are many ways to cheat. On the other hand... it's _competitive Rubick's cube_ - what kinda idiot would cheat? I kinda get why they've been able to be lax about this.
tl;dr: banger video I'm a WCA Delegate myself, and I want to say this video is insanely well-researched and accurate, especially being a cubing doc created by someone outside the space. Karl did a great job reaching out to Noah, showing the WDC report and discord screenshots. I do want to add that while officials competing is inherently risky, there are protocols in place to prevent anything like this happening. The WCA Code of Ethics and Scramble Accountability Policy are both public online, and all delegates are required to follow these rules throughout the course of our duties. In a large majority of cases, WCA delegates are trustworthy and do not provide ourselves an unfair advantage in competitions, in accordance with the Code of Ethics, but it is unfortunate that Sri Lanka's only delegate ended up violating this code so flagrantly. Hopefully they can find another delegate soon. Edit: love all the people who have no idea about the culture of cubing and the WCA coming in thinking they're experts on the subject, thanks for your input 🤡
The fact that he’s the only delegate in Sri Lanka is the reason why this was allowed to happen. Perhaps WCA should implement certain rule such as minimum required delegates for each competition if the delegate themself choose to compete. I know it wouldn’t be easy especially in countries where cubing isn’t popular yet. (I started cubing in 2005 so I am fully aware how difficult it is to get started with a small community.) But yeah, it’s unfortunate.
And any competitor is free to file a report if something suspicious was happening with a justified reason, I assume. So of course delegates go through a full process before becoming one, but how about the idea of competitors taking official tests for Judges and Scramblers during competitions and having some kind of certification? It's fine if experienced competitors are volunteering but there can still be inconsistencies. I recently had an experience about a dozen volunteers who were not cubers at all but members of a church where the competition was held, and they were "trained" a day earlier. It was a bit of a struggle, it shouldn't be that way.
And as we saw, the protocols go by the honour system and mean jack sh*t if someone wants to cheat. Hence why any normal community has such a very basic principle as "the judge/similar position of an event doesn't participate in it", which is baffling how speedcubers are so adamant against it. Also, this whole nonsense could be solved by just making becoming a delegate much easier so your entire country isn't in the hand of one guy, which seems asinine in the first place.
What blows my mind the most about these guys is how fast and effortlessly they’re able to turn the parts of a cube while rotating it in their hands. They use different fingers for different lines of block. It’s wild haha. It’s like they’re playing an instrument.
As a cuber it takes years of practice and learning specific ways to move your fingers for hundreds of different situations and then practicing them thousands of times, it takes years to learn but becomes almost second nature, (also i like your comparison to instruments, i play a couple myself and it is a very accurate comparison)
It is like playing an instrument. Just like playing Starcraft is. Anything you manipulate with your hands is technically an instrument. Instrument is just a fancy word for tool.
It's worth noting that the hardware has vastly improved in the last couple of years with all sorts of magnet configurations and low friction patterns on the surfaces. They're not using turn-like-a-brick Rubik's brand cubes.
It really is mind boggling that they allowed this to happen... was there literally no one else available to generate the seeds to where an actual competitor had to do it?
I remember the days of going from looking at this puzzle cube thinking "no way", then slowing figuring it out bit by bit until it's mastered. Of course, cheating always exists in competition, even cubing. Great video, Karl!
For those of you who may become interested in competitive cubing from this video, I cannot begin to explain how fun and addicting it can be! If youve never solved a Rubik's cube before, its actually really simple, and YOU can do it too. Just lookup any tutorial on youtube and you can start solving it in no time!
Personally, I'm not really a fan of games or puzzles that largely just come down to algorithms like cubing or chess. At least chess still has the PvP element of reading your opponent, but it largely comes down to guessing what pre-established strategy they'll employ. Just not all that interested in either, but that's doubly so for top level competition. The fun of a Rubik's cube (imo) is figuring it out for yourself. That's where your mind is really tested. Memorizing algorithms takes away all the discovery.
@@bbbbbbb51 algorithms are only used in the last 2 steps, the initial steps involve a lot of creativity, knowledge and intuition. These initial steps usually decide how good your time is going to be.
How the hell is this video age restricted!?!?!?!?! CZcams makes no sense I like that you are venturing outside of video games, Karl. Keep up the good work. What happened here is sad :(
Awesome job never expected you to cover somthing in the cubing world. Its honestly a great and addictive hobbie that can be really cheap as well. I really recommend it if you want to get into somthing.
Great video!! I’m very impressed with the way you were able to explain these concepts to those who don’t know how to solve the cube, and the level of research you did for it! As a high level FMC solver I was on the discord server at the time he was getting his record and it was extremely obvious to me that he cheated, and seeing the other evidence in the report makes it all even more disappointing. It is a very unfortunate situation to happen to the community, but having a video like this about a niche community I’m apart of is a silver lining.
Very well made video, Karl. It’s so cool to see a ton of non-cubing CZcamsrs making content about the Rubik’s cube recently, like Company Man’s latest video. As a delegate myself, it’s saddening to see someone at this level abuse their power to fraudulently break a record, especially given the blatantness of the cheating and the levels of trust broken. However, it’s important that people learn how and why these things happen so they can be aware in the future, and you did a fantastic job in communicating this incident for someone who doesn’t go to competitions.
idk, if you look at the replys from other from the rubik cube scene, most of them deny there's any problem with delegates running and playing at a tournament at the same time
You're angry he cheated in an obvious way. You other delegates probably just cheat in less obvious ways. Maybe sharing scrambles between each-other before each competition?
Why Kalindu?
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Are you sure about this game? It sounds like another game where people who a vulnerable will spend alot of money.
Sounds like you never played the game and just read a script that had you say also I do like your videos put doing ads for these shiity phone game is just shitty thing to do
@destroyer9819 it's called a sponsor
@@destroyer9819 yeah that sounds like this as he promotes a game designed to exploit certain people
"Now let's see who this JRPG with tower defense elements really is... AHA! It was Old Man Gacha Game all along!"
Billy Mitchell reviewed Kalindu's world record and found no wrongdoing.
That Rubik’s cube was all original hardware. Trust me bro.
🤣🤣🤣
@@hobojoe9717what was the color of the stick though
@@VicJang red
😂😂😂
These unverifiable fake world records remind me of when I wear a "world's greatest dad" sweater and I'm not actually even a father.
You're a father in your non existent kids eye 💜
That you know of 😉
You have any pets?
But are you the world's greatest non-father?
Will you be my father
I'm one of the ”top solvers” in the discord that you mentioned. I was honestly a bit worried about such a big channel making a video about it, since even many cubing-related channels have gotten things wrong. But I think you nailed it! It's always sad when things like this happen but hopefully it at least gets some more people interested in cubing or FMC. Great work as always!
Of course Karl nailed it, dealing with cheaters is his job, apparently
Congrats! The mind-blowing achievements of generally unknown communities of male virgins have always been interesting, but now I am also aware of your particular obscure community of virgins, and I salute you, right up there with the rest of them. Sometimes I wonder what even I might achieve, if I weren't so distracted by the vag.
It's an incredibly impressive feat, man. I would gladly watch a video of a championship of cubing. It's just a shame that this is how I'm hearing about it. 😔
Its not like nobody knew about this hobby before. I know it exists. I just have absolutely 0 interest in it. A youtube video isnt going to magically make lots of people interested in your niche hobby. So dont worry.
@@TheSuperappelflap TOO MUCH DOT ALERT TOO MUCH DOT
To be fair, he wasn't lying when he said he starts with good solutions. Just the ones he got from the computer, lol.
At 9:20 the other top player that said he ran 1 million sims and couldn't match it is confusing. Clearly a computer can find these solves quite quickly, so that seems contradictory.
@@elusivecameldidn't he run the simulations using the standard methods of solving a rubiks cube instead of the way computers do it?
if it wasn't done like this the simulations would be pointless
@@elusivecamel I think the way the first sim did was utilizing the strategies commonly used from scrambled to solved. What the cheat did was to start from solved, and go in reverse, which gives you a solution straight away without doing any branching path checking.
0:15 ay that's me lol
lmfao cube head jumpscare
Nice hands 🙌 🤣
instantly noticed your setup
Loooool x3
whys ur head round?
You know you fucked up when Karl is investigating you outside the video game realm
He's somewhat branching out to cheating in other game competitions a bit while keeping the focus mostly on video games, but i don't mind it at all. still very interesting to watch.
@@HM-rz8nv I actually didn't know there was such a thing as Fewest Moves for Rubik's Cube. I'm kinda tempted to sit down and try some of this during downtime at work.
I never thought about competitive Rubik's cube play because I don't have the hand-eye coordination for fast movement.
gotta farm that revenue
@@jolienewashington342 I don't mind just as long as it's consistently engaging. When it concerns Billy Mitchell, he totally deserves to milk his ass after the huge amount of trouble and major expenses of time, money and personal health he's caused Karl, though i usually don't watch those videos.
I am more fucked up for watching it. 😂
I got a 'content may be inappropriate for some users' warning before starting this. I never knew the world of Rubik's Cube was so cutthroat.
It's because of the breastices of the characters in the latest crappy P2W game Karl's hawking.
@@chairmanbrandoCan't tell if you're serious or not, but I genuinely can't think of any other explanation. Nothing else is even remotely near any lines, so that must be what crossed it
Me too.
Those cubes have sharp corners man. You could poke an eye out with one of those.
@@noahblack914 let me enlighten you, its rayciss noooo, you cant speak bad about them or notice patterns!
What Karl's vids taught me is that there are only really two kinds of cheaters: Frustrated Pros who are fed up with performing below what they believe they should be able to, and newbies who appear out of nowhere setting new records
Honestly, its kinda wild that a person involved in making the scrambles was even allowed to participate to begin with. This seems like anti-cheat 101.
yet speedcubers defend it cause muhhh niche sport...
@@mb2776 nah as a speedcuber id never defend him lmfao. theres normally rules around scramble handling and having multiple delegates so delegates can alternate scrambling and competiting.
hi
@@testleadss What do you want? >;|
@@boltcuber9242 Yeah but it should be as simple as no delegates are permitted to compete. Then they change out the delegates for each competition.
Though surely there might be a few people who dont even want to compete, and instead just help with the scrambles 🤔
10:09 Wow, he actually used the "I started in 2nd gear" excuse!
Fake recognize fake
Man, I didn't even know those cubes HAD a clutch to pop! Amazing!
Relax, folks, I'm being sarcastic. But you already knew that, because you're an absolute legend. :)
It's like he's always stuck in 2nd gear
HA
Todd Togers reference.
@@nelsondaily it's not been his day, his week, his month, or even his year
I'm a fairly high-level speedcuber, who doesn't know much about video games/speedrunning, and you did a very good job at explaining the situation and principles, setting aside minor terminology aspects, that didn't take away from the main points in question. Thank you to fellow speedcuber Noah Swor for his valuable input. Seeing the quality and integrity of journalism in a field outside of your usual topics, I'm intrigued in learning more about the speedrunning/video game side of things.
I realise, my combinations of interests is the opposite to those of the main audience here, to which I just want to say, we are a welcoming and trustworthy community most of the time, so this event was shocking, along with the breach of trust that came with it. I hope the Sri Lankan cubing community can continue to prosper in spite of this. To everyone else reading: keep on pursuing what you're doing, keep learning, and trust your instincts. If you're interested in some aspects of speedcubing, I'd gladly answer your questions
What he said guys ^^
the ad gave him an age restriction holy shit
@@joseihandlenotavailable fr like wtf was that 😂
@@samson4712 idk but im def gonna see what there is to see
Seems obvious there should be a rule against anyone competing on their own scramble
Right? Bizarre kind of oversight to make.
why should there be? most, if not all, delegates are speedcubers, and like making progress and breaking their records at comps. if they are the sole delegate at a competition, and no one else is experienced or even has the credentials to access the tnoodle software to generate them (which is what is required for generating scrambles for official wca comps), how would it even be possible to have the scrambles for the comp if the delegate cant generate them. or are you saying delegates shouldn't be able to compete at all at comps they are delegating at? that is a bit more reasonable, but still doesn't make sense since delegating is a thankless job and a volunteer work, so you don't get paid, yet they are expected to go to all of these competitions month after month without ever competing in them? 50% of the reason people go to comps IS to compete in them and get good results. and a good chunk of delegates are really competitive, a lot of them regularly breaking world records. it seems difficult and tricky to implement it, but i don't disagree with you. there is just a lot more nuance than you might give it credit for
People have to go through a process before becoming delegates, which involves being trusted by other delegates, so theoretically only trustworthy people are able to do this. Also, it's usually the case that a delegate not competing in FMC generates the scrambles, but sometimes this isn't possible, as in the case of the competitions where Kalindu was the only delegate. He was the only Sri Lankan delegate, so there was no one else able to generate scrambles.
@@ChrisChoi123You could have scrambles generated offsite and sent in if printed scrambles are needed, or generated online when needed if digital scrambles are fine
@@thelippyserver58 It's not really an oversight, it's just the unfortunate reality of a niche organisation being run by volunteers. The most experienced and dedicated people (the people you'd want to officiate events) are almost always active competitors themselves. We've known it was abusable for a long time and take measures to avoid it where possible, but sometimes it has to happen or the competition won't take place 🤷♂️
Billy Mitchell did it in 1 move back in 1986, Todd Todgers witnessed it. /s
To anyone who's still sceptical, Todd's girlfriend saw it too. Scramble that, cubists.
all that's missing is Dream coming to defend this on Twitter and my bingo sheet is complete
Todd Todgers**
@@TheGameCapsule
Misspelling his already misspelt name is totally something Dodgers would do.
@@ahriman935 mod hodgers lol
0:33 "We will see if he succeeds - Ready, set, go!"
0:43 "Minh Thai is 16 years old and lives in Los Angeles, Californien"
Imagine having so much ego about your intelligence level that you actually try and cheat in the rubiks cube world. That's like trying to cheat against mathematics itself, attempting to tell mathematics itself that ITS THE ONE THATS LYING? The maths doesn't lie bruh.
This is essentially the equivalent to a Student stealing a copy of the exam papers and practicing the questions before the actual exam.
It's equivalent to a student stealing a copy of the exam papers and googling the answers before the actual exam.
It's the equivalent of the teacher making the exam then taking it then getting a 100
It's equivalent to a teacher generating the exams, then googling the answers to get almost every question right, including questions that he didn't know how to solve.
There was no stealing, he is the one who wrote the exam he took.
It's the equivalent of the student being trusted with the exam that he'll have to take later. Bonkers.
The best way to describe this in videogame terms: Its like speed running on a seed you've already mapped out.
and then faked it and play it as if its a random seed
Great analogy.
Tbh, it’s more like he used a prerecorded TAS and tried to play it off like a live run
Exactly lol
@@-ZHnah, the analogy you’re replying to is way better
If you ever really wonder why people do this, his first sentence really says it all - "First of all, thanks to all the people that congratulated me for my achievement." We're actually pretty simple - we like validation from others.
So inevitably some people don't want to do any of the work and just skip to the rewards, no matter how askew the whole situation becomes or how many others it detriments.
One thing to ads about why speedcubing doesn't optimize for fewest moves: it's not just that it's difficult to find the fewest moves solution, but it would be pointless to do so anyway. Speedcubing relies heavily on algorithms, which sre sequences of moves players learn by heart and develop muscle memory for. You'd much rather execute a sequence of 10 moves you've done literally tens of thoudands of times before and can do it almost instantly versus a 5 move sequence that you've never executed before and would consequently take you longer to do.
Hold on 0:46 I'm in a Karl Jobst video. Time to add this to my resumé
Edit: Occurred to me it might be ambiguous, the person in the the clip is not myself, and is Ruihang Xu of China competing at the World Championship final in 2023, the footage is sourced from my channel
You're hired!!
Might want to specify you weren’t the *subject* of a Karl Jobst video
And you aren't the subject! That's a huge W. Unless you just pulled off a speedrun feat that was previously thought to be impossible you better hope a cameo is all you have in his video.
@@TakeNoteOfThat Fair point 🤣
You've earned it!
Hey Karl! Speedcuber here, amazing video this is a very unfortunate situation and it’s certainly a shame this is the first exposure to cubing for many of your viewers but you handled it very well! One little note I’d like to add is that in the WCA’s investigation of Kalindu they actually asked for two files, a JSON file with data about scramble generation that can be easily edited and a PDF file and it’s meta data that can’t be edited, funnily enough Kalindu only sent them the JSON files but without editing.
JSON not JASON, but yes i agree with your info
You cappin
@@ChrisChoi123oop
If you know how, it's pretty easy to edit PDF files, especially when you only want to change a timestamp.
@@jurio3117I really don't get why PDFs are still seen as the holy grail. They're incredibly easy to edit.
something important to mention is that less moves also doesnt mean that it's necessarily faster. There are certain sequences of moves that are more comfortable to perform, and therefore faster. you can see this difference in how long it takes for someone to scramble the cube versus performing an algorithm with the same number of moves
2:47 just casual tentai lmao
4:30 i would like to add, it's probably faster to execute the 33 moves used to solve for world record than it is to use only 20 moves, because of the algorithms, its easier to do 10 moves a second than the meticulous direct order
I learned the basic method which only requires learning 3 algorithms. Then I saw the hundreds of algorithms the Pros use, so I decided work on my turn speed 😂
this. 20 moves usually require awkward moves and or cube rotations
@@SleepyDudu let alone being completely unfindable on a large majority of scrambles without an hour and NISS
I really love the idea of using the farther-but-faster route than the closer-but-slower route.
@@tinyturtle1898 more like thousands
The reason there are so few cheating scandals in speedcubing is because the official records have to be set in official live competitions. It's like if every speedrun world record had to be set at a live GDQ event
which is just the standard procedure for every other competitive activity humans have ever invented. I don't understand why video game competitors keep trying to reinvent the wheel.
Probably because transporting video game equipment is considerably more annoying.
@@mrosskne When it comes to WR's videogame speedrunning is done live in 90% of cases. It's just usually done over a stream or something. The reason for this usually amounts to logistics and the sheer number of variables. Things like speedcubing are much easier to organize, monitor and provide supplies and support for.
In videogames it's a lot more complicated. Something GDQ provides materials for speedrunners, but they can't provide a ton of systems, within a stable and standardized environment very easily. Older consoles often either need a CRT, or to be modded to work with HDMI, or to use a converter - the last two introduce lag. Another thing is that these older consoles are getting up there in age. Yes most all older games are speedran on real authentic hardware - but some emulated speedruns are allowed (emulation introduces yet again more latency, PLUS the unintended side effect of varying inaccurate clockspeeds, and even bugs or glitches that don't exist with original hardware).
The other thing to keep in mind is that physical media has also began to deteriorate, or become "collectors items" making it difficult to provide an adequate amount of software to a large number of competitors. Organizers could create their own flashcarts (the tech is relatively easy and accessible now) but may receive legal correspondence from the related publishers, and companies that own the IP (looking at you Nintendo)
GDQ can provide a limited amount of hardware and software thanks to either donations, or loans from people who are gracious enough to help.
Essentially the idea is that it becomes too expensive, and difficult to organize and run massive live competitions for things like WR's. So a happy medium is streaming those attempts and having the competitor provide their own equipment. Now you might argue that they could provide their own equipment at the live event - which IS fair, but again I will reiterate that the value of the items needed can vary to sometimes quite ludicrous numbers. This makes taking your equipment with you risky, and keep in mind... some of these items are actually pretty rare too - making it difficult for the competitor to replace in some circumstances.
The logistics are just way to all over the place to effectively organize and run live events for speedrunning.
We've come a long way in cheat detection with streaming too. People can find splices, discrepancies with input detection - and more. So ironically the answer is basically:
It's complicated.
@@mrosskne The wheel is not getting reinvented. Video games WRs are still set live, and any that isn't is automatically disregarded... And there's the whole process of verifying the runs which is harder for some games, hence the fact there's always some kind of cheating scandal going on.
Some games have RNG mechanics, some require perfect movement, some can even crash midrun. Imagine trying to organize actual competitions for games that require thousands of tries until a new WR is set. Are the runners supposed to do it first try? or can they reset until they get a decent run? maybe a time limit? Hell no. No WRs would be set this way.
Alot of video games have speed run communities. Fromsoft Souls games alone have 7 active games that people enjoy speed running, and that is just 1 single smaller company's product. Mario has SO MANY games people speed run. Very hard to set up events when there are like a million records people are competing for across different games
How commendable is that Karl takes the time to research everything related with the competitive scene in question even if it's out of the realm of gaming to share a concise idea of it.
Sure, his excuses were bad, but no one will ever _ever_ EVER top Prince Andrew on that. "I couldn't have been with that girl in that picture of me and that girl because I'm sweaty in that picture and I didn't sweat, back then, at all, for a while, because of the war, or something."
How the hell is an official in charge of generating scrambles allowed to compete in the same tournament? Thats a ridiculous conflict of interest.
It's honestly a very bad idea to allow someone who has control over the competition logistics to be part of the game.
If that wasn't possible, many competitions wouldn't happen at all. Remember that the WCA is a volunteer organisation, and that almost all delegates are cubers themselves (many are particularly interested in FMC as well). For them, getting to compete and break their own records is a good incentive to host more comps. Becoming a delegate also involves other delegates trusting you and recommending you to the wca as a potential new delegate.
Simply banning delegates from competing at their own comps seems like an easy solution, but it's really not that simple.
Well unlike government officials, they don't get paid. They are also trained for years to be able to handle these things and are usually hand picked to be trustworthy.
@@kyh148 generate seed live, send it to everyone to enter on their phone into an offline app, they can setup the cube themselves.
@@kyh148 Are you saying there is no possible way for them to get a person who doesn't compete in a competition to generate a scramble for that competition?
Something about opening with "hello you absolute legends" always makes me smile.
If I'm still putting my headphones on and I miss the first 2 seconds, I always rewind to make sure I don't miss it.
It's such a ridiculous compliment to give to your entire audience, and we don't care lol. It's such a great opener for reasons I do not understand, the man has talent. It's the kind of greeting you'd give a special forces team who just averted nuclear war, yet here we are watching the most low stakes investigation of all time.
NLP
because you are susceptible to flattery due to some unfulfilled lack you do not believe you can fill within yourself. me too, bro. i love karl.
@@friedsenseito me, it's a cultural touch only he can bring. He investigates and debunks legends, and attributes us as such.
As he has the power to remove legends, he raises us to legend. Which we are, not as ourselves, but raising him further by viewership to Legend Killer.
...maybe I've been too deep in fantasy lore lately.
Congrats on 1 million subscribers Karl! You’re easily one of the best content creators out there. Thanks for all the laughs and the best of luck to you and the future of this channel!
I got a "this content might not be appropriate for all users" pop up when I clicked on this video. I had to hit continue intentionally. Really weird, I can't imagine that this video has anything wrong with it
The tentacle porn ad.
the ad footage got... spicy
I can't believe people would doubt Kalindu like this. The fact is, he was personally trained by both Tommy Tallarico and Billy Mitchell, two legends at the sport.
His mother must be proud
Man, I would LOVE IT if Karl covered the craziness that is Tommy Tallarico!
@@sdsign4229 I think most of it has been covered already. Could still do a deep dive, but it would all be old news since Tommy has been in hiding for a couple years.
I am a Pokémon tournament organizer and this story just goes to show why us organizers are not allowed to enter our own competitions.
Yeah, imagine if you were a head judge at a mtg or yugioh tournament and you also could participate.
Just disqualify anyone you want, you're the head judge, they literally cannot ban, appeal or do anything about it.
@@youtube-kit9450 yeah, you could also just check your opponent's deck list before every round and even look at pairings before they're officially announced.
I was thinking the same thing. Why in the world would you let the guy who set up the event, and (in this case) SET UP THE SCRAMBLES (you know, the one variable to this event) take part in it?
Even if he wasn't cheating, he still would have seen the cubes before hand. That's like a student helping to make the test.
What benefit would you get in Pokemon?
@@SquallLeonE I play VGC which is the competitive format of the switch games (currently Scarlet & Violet). The benefits you would get are immense. We play Open team sheet format. That means that at the beginning of the match, you get a list that contains all the Pokémon on your opponent's team including items, tera types and moves. If you could participate in your own tournaments you would be able to make a plan way in advance when during a regular match the only preparation time you get is the in-game team selection screen which gives you 90 seconds to think.
But that is not even the biggest advantage. As the organizer you receive what is called the closed team sheet from every player. That team sheet contains all the data that is in the open team sheet PLUS all the stats of your Pokémon. One of the biggest skills in Pokémon VGC is gathering information about your opponent's team and hiding as much information as possible about your own team. Having access to the closed team sheet would eliminate that entire aspect as you would already know how your opponent's Pokémon are trained. You would know, which Pokémon outspeeds which, you could calculate whether you can one-hit KO certain Pokémon on your opponent's team or which moves your own Pokémon can survive and so on. You could basically play hyper-aggressive without risking anything as you already know all the information you need whereas your opponent needs to play conservatively and passive.
Thanks for covering this. I know its different from your normal stuff, but you do such a good job at these types of videos.
I love your videos dude. And I really enjoy how accessible you make these really complex subjects, learned so much while watching a cheater get busted. Another awesome video.
10:15 I was going to make a joke about him being the Todd Todgers of the Rubik’s Cube world for “verifying” his own scores, and he’s also literally claiming he started in 2nd gear too. Todgers would be proud.
Wow! I never would've expected Karl to cover a cubing related scandal, but im glad he is! For those of you who are new to the cubing community, a majority or cubing competions and competitors are NOT like this guy, the community is very kind and welcoming to new cubers! If youre looking to get into cubing, just lookup any tutorial on CZcams, its that easy!
It’s not easy! My brain just can’t see it develop. I also can only see 3 moves ahead in chess…I think it’s a me problem.
I thought cubers would be square but im glad you pointed out that they have depth.
@@SlingshotFooty It's just about practice practice practice, no matter how difficult it may seem, if you just keep on trying you'll start understanding it more bit by bit! It also helps if you ask questions on stuff you may get confused about, which other cubers would love to answer!
@@PG_14 My son is actually pretty decent...maybe he can help me out lol!
The greatest thing about this is that pretty much anything you can think of has a community of vigilant people willing to call bullshit on someone at the drop of a hat.
I see _"Rubiks"_ and _"cheating"_ and immediately flash back to the 80's, when you'd ask to see your friend's completed Rubik's Cube and immediately notice a bunch of suspiciously wonky stickers on each side with the edges curling up... almost like someone had peeled them off... 🤔
In his defence, he didn't lie about his new method of solving. He really did find a way to get to the right solution straight away 😂
My computer date is 40 days off. LOL
😂💀 nail in the coffin
If he also had an internet connection, most modern OSes simply won't let it happen, unless you do several very specific and intentional things... There are legitimate reasons to do that, but none of them involve using your PC as normal afterwards... So, if he really had a date manually set 40 days in the past, it was almost certainly for cheating on something else. And if he didn't, he simply lied.
Just casually hanging out in March still gaiz.
A fun thing about this claim (besides being absurd) is that it is verifiable by looking at logs from the computer. If you confirm the current system time, then look at the system logs, it will contain even the smallest corrections to the clock. So whether his current clock is right ("I fixed it") or wrong ("see? 40 days off!") you can easily verify gaps or changes.
Granted, that's probably further than you need to go with this much evidence against him.
1 or multiple exact hours: sure that's believable because of time zones, but days off: never.
Aw, it's age restricted.
What could possibly be the cause of this in a video about rubiks cubes?
It'll be the sponsored ad, stuff like 3:28 is pushing it
@@loucam08 Oh dear! I finally finished the age registration with this account, since.. well I am over 18, so yeah, now I get it.
I wonder if for Karl, just financially, it's worth it to have a sponsorship knock an age restriction on the video, so, at the very least some people, won't be able to watch the video. Whether they aren't willing to give google that info, or actually aren't 18 yet.
it's deeply funny to me that an ad itself is the thing getting a video demonetized. I haven't used youtube without an adblocker for years now but the way I hear it, it's on par with the ads they play on people's videos too. And yet those ads themselves often aren't suitable for advertisers. What a dystopian hellscape website
I really enjoy how your in-depth research into cheating scandals teaches me a lot about other games I'm not familiar with!
It's a perfect combination of learning and entertainment.
I like to imagine Billy Mitchell, in his basement, just obsessively like "What's Karl going to do next..." and then Karl's just like "haha Rubik's Cube go brrr"
Heh. Funny thing is, I learned to solve a Rubik's Cube at the beginning of the year, from a youtuber called "JPerm".
Funny thing is is that it’s actually jobst who is combing through Billy to try to make all these videos about him
Don't forget about the raid shadow league sponsorship
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 nah, Karl is reacting to Billy's petty lawsuit by reporting on what's happening.
Billy is the one who can't admit cheating.
Edit: "It's ya boi, Raid Shadow Legends!"
@@hariman7727oh yeah, I love that guys Mario Kart video- oh wait, wrong guy
10:00 Ah, the Todd Rogers method of starting the solution in second gear.
Thank you for covering this. I have a friend that’s a competitive cuber and he’s been on about this.
At last! I needed my cheater fix bad today!
I entered the speed cubing scene in 2007 and was very into it from 2008 to about 2013. It was wild to see it evolve during that time.
I found all my old puzzles and cubes in my attic last year and have been enjoying it again casually in my downtime after almost a decade away from it.
Fast forward to 15 minutes ago, I had just solved a couple of my puzzles, decided to see what was new on CZcams, and holy crap Karl Jobst had JUST posted a video on one of my most obscure yet beloved pastimes that I enjoyed during my teenage years.
Karl, you are an absolute legend.
Synchronicity.
Good to see a fellow old (lol) cuber! I started in 2006.
I encourage you to join a competition to refresh your skill and memories! There are so many comps these days it’s completely different from our times 😂
Also be sure to check out the newer cubes. The cubes now are insane. If you haven’t tried newer cubes, I recommend Tornado V3 for 3x3, WRM for 4x4, and of course the new Gan 562m for 5x5. Happy cubing!
Your time has come for you to break records. The universe is paving the way for you. Good luck, and may the force be with you!
Wait, you can cheat at Rubix Cube?!
Apparently
I can’t imagine peeling and reapplying all the stickers that fast.
I didn't know that
Thatt what I was thinking
I guess you could also write down the movements you made in shuffling, and then doing that in reverse
In all my life I have NEVER come across a video about Rubik's Cube being *age restricted* before, this is the first ever one. It's truly astonishing, to say the least.
You know this guy had a "delightfully devilish, Kalindu" moment in his head before it all came crashing down.
2:47 That's probably the weirdest ad scene I've seen on youtube.
Karl's content is great, but if his ads are to be believed, he plays some of the worst games known to mankind.
Penguinz0 also had the ad but that one had that scene for twice as long
Glad I wasn't the only one to notice that... poor Karl, having to play these games.
Google "tentacle erotica" for more 😉
@@shrankai7285I'm pretty sure he was sponsored by a furry dildo maker company for a while so it makes sense
Honestly this is why in 95% of games that have competitive-level play, judges/delegates/etc are not usually allowed to play in competitions they're in charge of, and if they are allowed to play, they are scrutinized to a level beyond that of the normal player.
Take YuGiOh for instance, as a judge I basically say "I will not play in this tournament" whenever I opt to judge. Now YGO isn't as cheatable by a judge/organizer as a rubik's cube tournament--I don't randomize player's decks for them--but this concept is why it's a thing.
Nah, imagine you were head judge at an event and played there at the same time. "You cheated, game loss lol get fuk'd" at every opponent and since you're the head judge, no one could appeal. That would be complete insanity.
Mtg, basically the same. Judges are allowed to compete in smaller FNM but are not allowed to make game calls. Most of the time, as u can imagine, they get asked regardless but most don't even provide any answer cause of the conflict of interest.
@@scottrobinson4611 You really are just painting a terrible picture of the community if you say delegates will only organize events if they can participate, and how the "retirement" position still wants to participate, and how apparently the only people keeping the sport alive are delegates and not... the actual community...
In other sports/games, people constantly host tournaments and don't participate because they like the events and the community, and aren't just selfish people who just want to make a tournament to participate themselves. It also speaks of an insane lack of integrity in the community if the organizers don't just say "yeah this is a huge conflict of interest" and step down voluntarily, and just makes them look super selfish.
The sacrifices being made are obvious aren't they? In exchange for settling on rules based around what is an assumption about the only possibility for rapid growth (and assuming that rapid growth is what's most important for the sport), there is a commitment to a system which begs to be exploited and the video demonstrates that exact scenario playing out. Once a controversy happens that damages the reputation of a sport you care about so badly that people start to leave, it's too late. If ya'll love and care about something, treat it as such -- growth doesn't have to happen all at once.
well, all judges are competitors, and there are multiple groups, all with different scrambles, and someone cant judge their own group
omg, i’m a former speedcuber! most competitors are teens with better reflexes, better motor control, more brain power, and more free time than grown ups so unfortunately we all grow out of it one day. but such a fun throwback. great job, man.
I didn’t know this was a category. Different from the usual gaming videos, but you did great at explaining everything! It’s always funny when people don’t expect the the experts to chump check them 😂
the cool thing about how the algorithms tend to be for larger order cubes(4x4x4, 5x5x5, ect) is if you learn how to solve a 4 layer and 5 layer you can essentially solve any size cube, it just takes exponentially longer as you go up
Even the megaminx can basically be solved like a 3x3. It just takes a lot longer.
Yeah once you can handle cubes with more than one edge, in both even and odd number situations, the problem can be solved iteratively at any higher number. Just solve the innermost layer and then treat the next tier as if it was a cube 2 layers smaller than initially (I think)
They all just add one or two algorithms, to the knowledge needed to solve 3x3. Once you know 3x3, you can pick up any other NxN in an hour or two
@@baconsarny-geddon8298 knowing 3x3 I can figure out 4x4 in an hour or so, but 5x5 always takes so long I lose interest. But if I could learn and retain both 4x4 and 5x5 then XxX would be trivial
@@imperator9343I like your induction-based proof, but this isn't exactly what it looks like in practice. The solving methods for big cubes don't iteratively reduce to smaller order puzzles, rather all big cubes use the method of reducing it to a 3x3x3 directly.
It is just that the principles of solving centers and pairing up edge pieces can easily and intuitively be extended to higher-order cubes
Todd Rogers did it in 3.12 seconds.
Its Todd Togers
@@ravenquinn7214 Rod Todgers?
Duck Dodgers
@@roliletea DUCK SEASON!
By using 2nd gear
As a long time fan of your channel and a speedcuber, I really appreciate the research you've done for the topic as well as great explanation so non-cubers can understand what exactly went down
I absolutely love how this channel shines a light on lesser-known disciplines and does an incredible job of explaining them to the wider public.
WCA: We have confirmed Kalindu cheate--
Karl: H E L L O Y O U A B S O L U T E L E G E N D S
XDDDD I imagined now karl just appearing out of nowhere in their headquarters saying this xddd
I can't wait to be invested in something I don't care about at all.
And yet here you are. Admitting that nothing else worth your time is happening in your life, sure takes guts. High five! 🤚
@@TatankaTaylor It flew right above your head, huh?
Get a cube and learn to solve it! It’s a lot of fun I promise!
@@TatankaTaylorYou come across very unlikable. Congrats 🎊
Karl can make anything worth investing your time in. Man's an absolute legend.
No one likes a cheater. No one likes a scammer.
I love your videos that talk about cheating. Mainly because you do such a good job explaining whats going on that i can understand it and learn about the competitive side of these games.
Imagine your explanation to skipping the process of discovery being "I just started at the end bro" like wtf is that
What, you act like you never started in second gear to set a new world record.
@@youtube-kit9450 Fair. Maybe I’ll take up Minecraft speed running? Could just start at the end lol
So glad Karl spelled "Rubik's" correctly. Absolute legend of legends.
rubrics cube
How else would you spell it? What are common misspellings?
@@Armi1PPeople often call it a "rubik cube" and not a "Rubik's cube"
@@Armi1Prubix
@@Armi1P “rubix cube” is a very common one, prime (the drink company) sponsors max park (the current rubik’s cube world champion) and prime accidentally spelled it as “rubix cube” on their website (its fixed now)
There could be a competition for how many poops could be done in a day, and someone would figure out a way to cheat. There is always that one dirtbag.
you could have ended with "shitbag" instead...
@alicepbg2042 dam.... yeah, 100 percent right, what a missed opportunity. 😆
@@frogman9989clean%
On one hand, it seems like this whole community is too trusting and that there are many ways to cheat. On the other hand... it's _competitive Rubick's cube_ - what kinda idiot would cheat? I kinda get why they've been able to be lax about this.
Any time there is something to be won - no matter how ephemeral or seemingly pointless it may be - someone will *always* try to cheat to do it.
Counting down the days until Karl vs. Billy 😊
The battle of legends! Only thing that could make it more epic is if it was Karl vs Silly Bitchell vs Todd Todgers
@@jaydenatreidesExcuse me but you clearly misspelled the greatest gamer of all time's name, its clearly Todd Roges.
"This lawsuit is brought to you by Raid Shadow Legends, your Honor."
Bro, competitive rubiks cubing drama is something I didn't know I needed in my life. Thank you Karl.
Thanks for the update Karl you absolute legend! Appreciate you 😊
I watch a LOT of CZcams, but Karl's videos are in my to 3 favorite channels. Thanks for so many incredibly interesting videos Karl ❣️
tl;dr: banger video
I'm a WCA Delegate myself, and I want to say this video is insanely well-researched and accurate, especially being a cubing doc created by someone outside the space. Karl did a great job reaching out to Noah, showing the WDC report and discord screenshots.
I do want to add that while officials competing is inherently risky, there are protocols in place to prevent anything like this happening. The WCA Code of Ethics and Scramble Accountability Policy are both public online, and all delegates are required to follow these rules throughout the course of our duties.
In a large majority of cases, WCA delegates are trustworthy and do not provide ourselves an unfair advantage in competitions, in accordance with the Code of Ethics, but it is unfortunate that Sri Lanka's only delegate ended up violating this code so flagrantly. Hopefully they can find another delegate soon.
Edit: love all the people who have no idea about the culture of cubing and the WCA coming in thinking they're experts on the subject, thanks for your input 🤡
The fact that he’s the only delegate in Sri Lanka is the reason why this was allowed to happen. Perhaps WCA should implement certain rule such as minimum required delegates for each competition if the delegate themself choose to compete.
I know it wouldn’t be easy especially in countries where cubing isn’t popular yet. (I started cubing in 2005 so I am fully aware how difficult it is to get started with a small community.) But yeah, it’s unfortunate.
And any competitor is free to file a report if something suspicious was happening with a justified reason, I assume.
So of course delegates go through a full process before becoming one, but how about the idea of competitors taking official tests for Judges and Scramblers during competitions and having some kind of certification? It's fine if experienced competitors are volunteering but there can still be inconsistencies. I recently had an experience about a dozen volunteers who were not cubers at all but members of a church where the competition was held, and they were "trained" a day earlier. It was a bit of a struggle, it shouldn't be that way.
if a code of ethics is the only thing preventing cheating, you know your system is flawed.
And as we saw, the protocols go by the honour system and mean jack sh*t if someone wants to cheat. Hence why any normal community has such a very basic principle as "the judge/similar position of an event doesn't participate in it", which is baffling how speedcubers are so adamant against it.
Also, this whole nonsense could be solved by just making becoming a delegate much easier so your entire country isn't in the hand of one guy, which seems asinine in the first place.
The only reason to intentionally design systems of accountability which rely on mutual trust is if you find corruption investigations fun.
What blows my mind the most about these guys is how fast and effortlessly they’re able to turn the parts of a cube while rotating it in their hands. They use different fingers for different lines of block. It’s wild haha. It’s like they’re playing an instrument.
As a cuber it takes years of practice and learning specific ways to move your fingers for hundreds of different situations and then practicing them thousands of times, it takes years to learn but becomes almost second nature, (also i like your comparison to instruments, i play a couple myself and it is a very accurate comparison)
It is like playing an instrument. Just like playing Starcraft is. Anything you manipulate with your hands is technically an instrument. Instrument is just a fancy word for tool.
It's worth noting that the hardware has vastly improved in the last couple of years with all sorts of magnet configurations and low friction patterns on the surfaces.
They're not using turn-like-a-brick Rubik's brand cubes.
It really is mind boggling that they allowed this to happen... was there literally no one else available to generate the seeds to where an actual competitor had to do it?
I remember the days of going from looking at this puzzle cube thinking "no way", then slowing figuring it out bit by bit until it's mastered. Of course, cheating always exists in competition, even cubing. Great video, Karl!
For those of you who may become interested in competitive cubing from this video, I cannot begin to explain how fun and addicting it can be! If youve never solved a Rubik's cube before, its actually really simple, and YOU can do it too. Just lookup any tutorial on youtube and you can start solving it in no time!
@@ZeroJinKui okay?
Can confirm
No, I can't.
Personally, I'm not really a fan of games or puzzles that largely just come down to algorithms like cubing or chess. At least chess still has the PvP element of reading your opponent, but it largely comes down to guessing what pre-established strategy they'll employ. Just not all that interested in either, but that's doubly so for top level competition. The fun of a Rubik's cube (imo) is figuring it out for yourself. That's where your mind is really tested. Memorizing algorithms takes away all the discovery.
@@bbbbbbb51 algorithms are only used in the last 2 steps, the initial steps involve a lot of creativity, knowledge and intuition. These initial steps usually decide how good your time is going to be.
13:10 KALINDU'S DATE STARTED IN 40TH GEAR LMFAO!
His joystick was original hardware that magically turned into a stick with more precision. Wow!
How the hell is this video age restricted!?!?!?!?! CZcams makes no sense
I like that you are venturing outside of video games, Karl. Keep up the good work. What happened here is sad :(
‘The date on the internet is off by 40 days’
Was about to fake a speedrun on Resident Evil 2 remake and Need for Speed Heat but Karl Jobst uploaded.
The fact that a competitor could ever be the one handling the scrambles seems absolutely insane
Awesome job never expected you to cover somthing in the cubing world. Its honestly a great and addictive hobbie that can be really cheap as well. I really recommend it if you want to get into somthing.
Karl is the only content maker who can make me watch something like this with absolute certainty I'll enjoy it.
I had to audibly laugh at the computer clock excuse. haha that's desperation.
Same. When you think about which system's time is most likely embedded in the dataset he provided, the laughter gets even louder.
Notification pops up:
“I’m sorry.. WHAT?”
**Instantly clicks**
Thanks for the play by play, I never would have understood why you're here without it.
@@charlottecorday8494thanks for letting me know you wouldn’t have understood!
CZcams comments get worse by the day. May as well start commenting "first" or "x fell off"
@@bbbbbbb51 ____ is crazy 💀
________ is wild 💀
stood on business
first
devious work
blud
edit: thanks for the likes
womp womp
pin plz
thanks as always for the content. love you
If Kalindu's PC's time was off by 40 days, he wouldn't be able to connect to any website using HTTPS/SSL. Which is basically... the entire internet.
Cubing in a Karl Jobst video?
This made my day
Mine too.
Karl is just the best I love drama and this is the type of drama I can savor that has zero impact on me
This is one of like 5 channels I will watch the entirety of ads for. Karl has earned every penny he can get from his videos.
Great video!!
I’m very impressed with the way you were able to explain these concepts to those who don’t know how to solve the cube, and the level of research you did for it! As a high level FMC solver I was on the discord server at the time he was getting his record and it was extremely obvious to me that he cheated, and seeing the other evidence in the report makes it all even more disappointing. It is a very unfortunate situation to happen to the community, but having a video like this about a niche community I’m apart of is a silver lining.
Very well made video, Karl. It’s so cool to see a ton of non-cubing CZcamsrs making content about the Rubik’s cube recently, like Company Man’s latest video.
As a delegate myself, it’s saddening to see someone at this level abuse their power to fraudulently break a record, especially given the blatantness of the cheating and the levels of trust broken. However, it’s important that people learn how and why these things happen so they can be aware in the future, and you did a fantastic job in communicating this incident for someone who doesn’t go to competitions.
idk, if you look at the replys from other from the rubik cube scene, most of them deny there's any problem with delegates running and playing at a tournament at the same time
@@mb2776 Because usually it isn't a problem. This incident is an outlier, not the norm.
You're angry he cheated in an obvious way. You other delegates probably just cheat in less obvious ways. Maybe sharing scrambles between each-other before each competition?
@@displayer6023 Wow what a cynical take
Ah, a new Karl video, just in time for relaxing before bed. Thank you, Karl.
Thanks for covering the important stuff
2:47 wild ads lol
Karl Jobst cubing video, this is the best timeline
I don't know why but "World Cubing Association" makes me giggle.
I also plssed myself when I hear it
"This is the 9/11 of fmc" - Daniel Karnaukh, 2024
When did he say that😭🙏
@@williamvandergrift9741 in the FMC discord like 2 hours after the WR