Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - re:View
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2017
- In anticipation of Showtime's revival of the series, Jay and Josh gush over Twin Peaks for 45 minutes! Specifically, their love for the much maligned prequel film Fire Walk With Me, directed by David Lynch.
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“In Twin Peaks, no one is really what they seem. Except maybe Andy.”
I mean yeah pretty much. Him and Hawk. They just are who they are.
@@vulpesinculta1919 pete martell still lied to his wife and conspired with Josie against her.
I would add Lucy to that list
@callmecatalyst I hear you 😂 threw my hat into the ring before a review of the latest season
I didn't realize Scott Pilgrim and Trent Reznor were the same actor until I watched this.
@@bennysizzle79 cursed comment
"Dale Cooper is worried about something and that's when David Bowie shows up"
Has there ever been a more accurate discription of the bizarreness of Twin Peaks?
In season 3 David Bowie is a talking tea kettle, that description isnt bizarre enough
But in the show Cooper is more eccentric, enthusiastic, and eager to get the case solved, it's only as the show progresses that you see him gradually get worried.
@Linda Niemkiewicz Totally real. It's fucking amazing.
@@JacobLucasSorenson I think it's a great reference to one of his songs, here am I sitting in a tin can, from space oddity.
@@TETCOM. "Judy" throughout Twin Peaks is a metaphor or symbol for a plot point's conclusion. He's sort of saying "whatever is going on, isn't over yet". The disturbed tone is due to the fact that characters in the show, when attention is no longer put on them through an active plot, disappear from existence. And he is worried that will happen to him again (he was just 'gone' for 2 years) when no attention was put on him.
The idea of watching Twin Peaks in the early 90’s with no message boards of theories or clarifications on what’s going on it must’ve been such an amazing experience.
Dunno if you'll see this as your comment is pretty old, but yes it was amazing.
Looking back to when I was 10 and Twins Peaks was on TV, the really interesting thing to me is how all the kids in my class were huge fans of the show whilst our parents mostly dismissed it as weird and silly.
We GOT it and they didn't.
Great artists like Lynch keep the gifts they were born with, which is an incredibly difficult and rare thing to achieve.
Yes it was. I was 16.
Here is the big secret. We talked about it. Face to face, maybe over the phone, maybe through written correspondence.
When I picked up a copy of The Secret Diary and read it, I was floored. Then came Fire Walk With Me.
The failure of the movie critics, Hollywood folks and reviewers to acknowledge the absolutely wrenching and yet magnificent acting of Sheryl Lee not into account and reward her achievement in bringing to life the horrible death of Laura Palmer.
Shows like this were called “water cooler shows” bc every week, you would surround the water cooler at work and discuss the previous episode with all your coworkers
@@juicedgoose thought i was too young at 11 and unfortunately no one i knew watched it 😭. still wouldn't change my watching it back then though
This was absolutely the most disturbing movie I have ever seen. I read that people from RAINN (Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network) said it's a very accurate description of incest and sexual abuse and I can see that fully in Laura Palmer. I think Jay and Josh get it right with the importance and accuracy of the emotions in this movie and the notion of Laura sacrificing herself by isolating her loved ones from the fucked up shit she both is subjected to and contributes to. Laura accepting her fate is such a powerful thing. Love this movie.
Lynch's description of her as radiating light but dying inside is so powerful to me. I don't think I've ever been moved by a character more, and knowing the tragic reason she exists in the first place just makes it so much more... oof. It hurts in a good way.
Fire walks is the only movie I've seen in the past probably 10 years where I had to actually pause at points because it freaked me out so much.
Sheryl Lee has said that victims of incest have told her in confidence that her performance as Laura has helped them come to terms with their own traumas
Yeah the entire movie is so dark but then you watch the ending and makes you sob out of happiness.
i love how you forgot the comma between r@pe and abuse to make it seem like r@pe is ok until some people take it too far to where it becomes abusive lmao. yes i had to censor myself because youtube deletes everything i say that isnt rated G
Sheryl Lee's acting in FWWM is insane. I've never before seen someone capable of displaying such real terror in their face when acting.
Yes, it's a very shocking performance. Clearly deserved an Oscar nom.
Lupin... he's a nice man.
milky I thought her acting was a bit over the top to be honest.
Of course it was over the top. It had to be to convey how evil and bizarre that world was.
That and meryl steep performance in Sophie’s choice
Kyle McLachlan actually looks better today than he does with the old man makeup in Twin Peaks where he's supposed to be 25 years older.
His onscreen wife wanted to bang him after seeing him shirtless at the doctor....and she actually did!
Yeah the on screen wife, that little unknown actress
@@ryanjavierortega8513 Watch the third season. You’re missing out on so much beauty!
And if you haven’t, the lady they’re referring to is just some person. No one knows her.
facelift does wonders
@@beezy5628 I'm a massive fan of FWWM. I was disappointed by The Return, only because of that stupid 'What year is this' ending. Really felt betrayed by Lynch's self-indulgence
Never realized until just now that re:View takes place in the Red Room/Black-White Lodge!
I was just thinking about that, if the floor matched they would have been dead on with it.
It's the Red Lodge Media
I downloaded Fire Walk with Me in preparation for watching this re:View (and watching the new season), it was an hour and a half long, felt kind of disjointed; some of the transitions were just a cut to black for a couple seconds and then right into the next scene. Only by the time the credits rolled I found out I had watched the deleted scenes.
I replied this to another commenter already, but I'll say it again...
That torrent got you good, eh?
I also already replied this to another commenter but... yify torrents I’m guessing?
SOME of the deleted scenes. FWWM was originally supposed to be like 5 hours lol
I feel like this says more about David Lynch's style than any critic could possibly convey.
Basically every torrented version of FYMM is actually The Missing Pieces, which I think is really hilarious. I mean, I guess it's a great way to make it so that nobody watches the movie illegally.
That shot of Bob sitting at the end of the bed scared the living shit out of me. One of the most haunting images I've ever seen.
Temparo : I agree with you. Bob is not scary. I actually started losing interest after they revealed him.
"Hey everybody, see that guy, the guy who looks like he's a roadie for the Doobie Brothers? Yeah, that guy is an unspeakable evil. You should totally be scared of the guy in head-to-toe denim." I'm reasonably certain I could kick the shit out of him, and I'm supposed to be terrified? Yeah, he never really did it for me.
"My uncle has a friend who looks like he could be related to Bob." Did he ever flick matches at you? Or did he just tie you down and fuck you?
@Trick Bobby between the bars in the pilot and Laura's traincar face in the the first ep of season 2 were the coup de grace creepiness
Not as haunting as when Jack went evil on Mike.
One of the scariest shots within the full context of each episode, IMO, is that shot we keep seeing in season one that's looking up at the dark hallway and ceiling at the top of the stairs in the Palmers' house
I was praying the Laura Palmer screams wouldn't be in the re:View. Jesus that scared the shit out of me as an 8 year old.
Your parents failed you there.
Watching it on my phone for the first time just now terrified me. Then they played the Laura Dern one and I turned the phone around as far as I possibly could while still seeing and that was still horrifying.
It's still chilling today. No one gets under your skin the same way as Lynch.
Eight? EIGHT?!?
That shows fucking scary to me now and Im 21 lol. As an 8 year old I'd have been so confused
20:11 "You just wanna reach into the screen and help her."
Season 3: Dale Cooper: "I'm on it."
What year is this?
@@aquamidideluxe5079 2020
14:25
Yup, more sh*t. @@jonathancaustrita5568
FWWM is Lynch saving Laura’s soul. It’s his attempt to transform her from a husk - a shell - to a living, breathing, tragic heroine who stood resolute against her impending death.
Regardless of how someone may walk away from this film, it’s unequivocally an important part of the canon and treats her character with the respect that it deserves.
"Regardless of how someone may [fire walk with me] away from this film, ..."
Fixed that for ya ;)
and then in the Return she is basically Anakin Skywalker. Created by the white Lodge to bring back balance to the force.
I will always prefer this over the returns ending
In a meta way it helps make Laura not some girl who was fridged but a complete flawed person who was thrown into a bizarre horrific situation
This is a damn fine cup of RLM.
Tasty, right?
Damn fine cup.
Excuse you.
AND HOT
Chief...Wiggum... don't...eat... the clues.
I'll drive.
thiss...ssuit...burrns...better...looook
Im not following you
-Hey, Chief, I got an idea. Why don't we take a look at Burns' suit?
-Did you have the same backwards talking dream with the burning cards?!
-I'll drive...
"Twin Peaks: The Return" was a real 18 hour treat.
This was a fantastic review and breakdown of everything Twin Peaks, but Josh and Jay NEED to come back and do this for The Return.
They really do!
Also waiting for this, but i think that it's never happening. They review movies, not series, after all. We're just luck that they had to talk about the first seasons to give context for this movie.
Richter WLK you’re acting like they haven’t reviewed both seasons of the new Star Trek series...
@@fuccboiz1568 star trek is on another level. You don't see them reviewing a movie and ramdonly saying "oh, it reminds me of an episode of twin peaks".
I mean, they obviously like twin peaks, but are not crazy about it.
My three favorite things: my morning coffee, David Lynch, and reView.
Yerp!
Ellis_D is your coffee as black as midnight?
Ellis_D Apple strudel
The David Bowie scene is brought full circle in Twin Peaks: The Return.
Alluding to the fact that the original TV series had some of the strongest and most frightening scenes of all, ones that even outshone Fire Walk With Me, I feel like you omitted what was for me the absolute high point: Season 2 episode 7, the last third of that episode, the conclusion of Maddy's storyline.
Yes! Holy crap it's amazing that aired on network television in 1990. Even by today's standards it's pretty intense.
When I finally got up to that episode when I watched the series on Netflix I was shocked. It's admittedly pretty tame by comparison to most things nowadays but it was so unexpectedly brutal that it really stuck with me.
It’s still extreme unsettling and hard to watch, even after dozens of rewatches
rockn roll to what? To the scene with maddy? Most scene you can just look up on CZcams
Totally agree. Possibly the most terrifying and tragic few minutes of TV ever filmed.
I made the mistake of watching The Missing Pieces, thinking it was the actual movie. That was an odd experience.
Damn, the exact same thing happened to me a few years ago. Weird.
That's the only way to watch Twin Peaks.
omg
Happen to me, and weirdly enough it makes a interesting experience that fits in Twin Peaks.
How? I mean, it says in big letters at the beginning that it's a collection of deleted scenes.
"Black as midnight on a moonless night." My favorite quote by special agent Dale Cooper. One day I wish to ask for black coffee like that... but then I realize I would look like a complete asshole.
Say it. Say it, babe. Say it.
This is, excuse me, a damn fine cup of coffee.
are you KIDDING? you might meet your soulmate that way! if a guy had come into the diner I worked the night-shift at, and asked for a cup of coffee as black as midnight on a moonless night, I would have thrown my badge down on the counter and driven away with him, no questions asked. DO IT
I just saw this at an art theatre, and that Pink Room scene music vibrated through my very core; it was so f**king cool! Few movies have captured a club's sonic environment as well as this one.
They should do re:view's of all the Lynch film's. I love hearing Jay and Josh talk about Lynch, you can really feel their love for his weirdness.
Would love to hear Mike's take on The Straight Story
I think that Laura is almost a christ-like figure, she sort of bares the entire burden of the town’s inherent evil and darkness, and attempts to take it with her to the grave. Fire Walk With Me is one of those movies that twists the stomach, I feel like it took something from me after I watched it.
Glad someone else thought of this too. Like Jesus she has a sacrificial aspect to her story without it being a tale of redemption. Her taking the ring to me is preventing Bob’s corrupting her, and just as she touched and affected everyone in Twin Peaks, she would be the logical conduit to corrupting the town as well, so she chose to not allow that. Powerful, harrowing stuff.
@@joelsmith5938 "Bob says he wants to be me" - just like he "tasted" through Leland's mouth. In Leland's death scene we learned Bob had used him since he was a boy.
A real stroke of genius from Lynch to both have this character who is a symbol of purity or "belief in goodness" for the entire town, while simultaneously portraying the immense burden of being cast in that role. Laura is an extremely nuanced character in what she represents, which is especially compelling considering how little screen time she has in the original run.
How this film is still looked upon unfavourably is baffling. Regardless of how you feel about it's relationship to the TV series, it's arguably Lynch's masterpiece, and Sheryl Lee's performance is quite possibly one of the greatest pieces of acting ever committed to film.
I think people at the time wanted more Coop, and ended up disappointed. Really is a shame, like you said it's a great movie.
It is _one_ of his masterpieces, it's hard to rank it among Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, Lost Highway and Inland Empire... And of course the new season of Twin Peaks
Jonathan Vasilevic if you did not see the series it’s really a nonsensical mess. I had seen the series and remember sitting in shock after seeing TPFWWM for the first time
There was a huge backlash against Lynch at the time due to the controversy over Wild At Heart. Barry Gifford - author of the novel it’s loosely based on - talks about journalists pressuring him to slag on the movie. He would would tell them point blank he loved the movie and how it turned out.
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That kind of pissed me off about Ebert. He had no idea what was going on with Isabella behind the scenes and gave the movie one star partly based on this conjecture. On the other hand the lead actress in Last Tango in Paris was actually sexually humiliated by Brando and the director and he gave it 4/4 stars.
Ebert actually did know a little about what was going on behind the scenes during filming. His print review at the time went into detail on it: Actors given just their lines of dialogue without seeing the full script, the Frank scenes withheld from all copies of it - so that they didn’t know the movie they were signing onto - which today would be considered unethical.
i felt like ebert had no credibility (read: hack fraud) for many of my formative years due to this and his lack of appreciation for the first tmnt movie (among other things). although, saying i've come around to him since is an understatement. i guess that's the plight of a critic: your initial reactions to films when they came out never go away. always blows me away when professional, even revered film critics just completely misunderstand great films. feels like they were sleeping on the clock.
Reminder that Ebert gave fear and loathing in las vegas one star because he missed the entire point of the movie (it's commentary on the failed idealism of the 1960s counterculture and the death of the American dream) and all he got out of it was DUDE DRUGS LMAO. He also gave kindergarten cop 3 stars and fight club 2 stars
Ebert’s coauthor was a bottle for a long time, I take his reviews w a grain of salr
@@willberman1562
Ebert quit drinking in 1979
On the whole "no no no, DON'T watch the prequel first" thing...I feel like that should be a general rule of thumb for ALL film and television. Always watch things in the order they came out, because there's always at least a little influence of the chronologically-second thing in the prequel, because at least to some degree it's designed for people who already watched the original.
Biggest example I can think of is The Thing. If you watch the 2010 prequel first, it RUINS the first act of the 1982 original.
There are interesting exceptions, like maybe watching Monsters University before Inc. or the Machete Order for Star Wars. Though yeah, as a general rule I'd whole-heatedly agree. Like, Better Call Saul utilises the foreknowledge of Breaking Bad to create tension, and give more context to the characters.
+DakNJaxter ummm... you better think twice before recommending the Prequels in a RLM thread.
Same here haha...it was so damned bewildering, but still brilliant. Watching the show later on, the twist in S2 was spoiled, but it still wasn't a bad way to experience Twin Peaks.
In video games, Metal Gear is a great example of this.
BlueScarabGuy I think it should be watch the first two seasons, then FWWM and then season 3.
I love how everything in the opening is the inverse of what we're used to. Chet Desmond is basically a bizarro Cooper, grim and serious in opposition to Coop's light-hearted enthusiasm. Even their initials are inversed (C.D. vs D.C.)
Great observation!
Never noticed til now, that Leland saying she had a dirty finger foreshadows him placing 'R' under her finger.
"Wayyy under this fingernail" where Bob will put the letter.
The actress who played Laura did some of the best acting I've ever seen
P.S. Please do a special review together of Season 3 sometime!
I know that RLM doesn’t do shows...but hey, it’s friggin’ Twin Peaks...
If anything can get an exception, this show is it!
I’d love hearing a discussion about it from you guys...and I’m surely not alone.
Yes, I hope they do this.
Please. It was so much fun to watch this after Season 3.
I agree!
A Re:View for The Re:turn would be great.
I'm still hoping Jay and Josh would do the return.
Even if they don't have a strong grasp on what that whole season was about (who does), I would just love to hear their thoughts (And I would love it even more if they made two parts cause it's 18 hours).
One fascinating and often overlooked element happens in the scene with Mike and Leland and the engine revving. The sound makes you think that Leland is covering up what Mike is saying to Laura. That is certainly part of what is happening. However the series points out that when Black Lodge spirits manifest it is accompanied by a smell reminiscent of that of scorched motor oil. See what is said when they see the mechanic in the parking lot at the tail end of this scene, fascinating.
Also, Mike knows Bob is her father! Why doesn’t he mention this AT ALL in the series!?
@@benjaminfisher5351 yes, good point. I've heard people try to justify this but I think it's just a plot hole, it happens.
The twin peaks soundtrack is absolutely outstanding. It's so mesmerizing in such an great way.
I love when Josh and Jay discuss movies because they take the subject matter seriously and actually discuss the film.
but no Star Trek references!
Right. Not goofy ass jokes every 2 seconds
See i actually like the scene w Bowie, mysterious enough where it’s not enough to make sense but enough to draw you into the mystery
The David Bowie scene is vital to the lore, as he is someone travelling between time and worlds.
I was literally watching the last 10 minutes of the movie when this popped up. I watched the entire series just to prepare for this video.
I recognized the corpse and I claaaaped
Id like to personally thank redlettermedia, Jay, and Josh for introducing twin peaks to me. Especially in time for season 3. It was right up my alley, and it's like I've been searching for something exactly like this in subject matter. I absolutely love it. Thank you so much. You probably won't even see it, maybe 3 strangers will but this was a privilege to experience during my existence.
Twin peaks isn’t a parody of a soap opera, it is a soap opera that is aware of itself
Thats exactly what a parody is dumbass
For me it’s like a soap opera that lulls you to sleep to lead into a nightmare
It’s a soap opera in a dream within a dream works LOTSA LOTSA BLACK COFFEE
It started as a parody of a soap opera, but it unfortunately became one on the terrible second half of season 2.
Sharp
I was just watching an angry joe movie review, lasted about 42 seconds and clicked on this instead.
Thank god for RLM.
Despite the drop in quality afterwards, I think we can all agree that everything up to, including, and resolving that reveal was still incredible. Agent Coopers scene in the prison cell still gives me chills.
That cell scene makes me cry every time I see it. Lynch is such a goddamn genius.
I'm so glad people appreciate this movie now. I've always loved it. It's one of Lynch's masterpieces.
Aaaand Philip Jeffries is now a giant kettle.
metalmugen Lynch confirmed it’s just supposed to be a machine. It just happens to look like a tea kettle.
There's a giant kettle in the sky, he'd like to come and meet us , but he thinks he'll blow our minds!
No, he's the fish in the percolator!
I got SO frustrated with that because I really hoped they were able to get Bowie to do his part before dying.
He turned him into a... Tin machine ;)
This is easily my favourite episode of re:View so far.
The whole film is so emotional, so traumatising, so visceral and then you get to that ending. That moment at the end where Laura is smiling as she looks at the angel…at that point I just burst out crying, full on sobbing my eyes out. Watching FWWM is an emotional rollercoaster and by the end you feel like you’ve been through trauma yourself. An incredible piece of work and I’ll never understand why it’s so hated in some quarters.
I just saw this for the first time; I think that the movie makes Bob way more symbolic, or metaphorical. That Leland ins't ever Bob, and that maybe Bob is Laura's way of rationalizing the abuse.
It is both a metaphor and real.
bob is metaphysical but leland is physical.
white haired leland is what leland looks like through a bob lens
“the secret diary of laura palmer” by Jennifer Lynch will make everything come together
No. Coop saw Bob, Sarah Palmer saw Bob, Maddie saw Bob. The only people that can see his true face: "The gifted, and the damned."
"It makes everything more tragic, you want to reach into the screen & help her"..
Then the ending of The Return happens & Dale does exactly this...which creates it's own set of consequences - Lynch is a genius
Thanks a lot asshole for the fucking spoiler
@@datmercguy6300 It came out three years ago and your watching a video about twin peaks. All on you.
And now here I am watching this 30 years later May 1st 2022
I won't lie, Josh and Jay are the best re:view hosts
shinji moment i’m here from surf curse
Thanks for being honest.
you guys nailed how this movie feels; sometimes i think the reason it was so hated when it came out was just how horrific, dark and unsettling it was. david lynch's capacity to evoke deep, intense emotion is often understated when people talk about his films; i think mullholland drive and eraser head, to a certain extent, achieve this as well, but not nearly as much as fire walk with me. i totally agree with jay, this is probably the worst i've ever felt for a character in a movie, and yet i love how it's never exploitative or excessive: david lynch treats the subject of laura with so much warmth and care that you really feel like you're there with her. anyway, great video guys, this is easily my fav re:view you've done so far.
“Has there even been a series that was that loved, then crashed and burned that hard?”
Oh boy, 2019’s Game of Thrones’ got a word to say...
Yeah, there really IS no countering that comment. Yikes :(
I thought of Heroes but that was less drastic.
I mean, it didn’t get canceled over it.
@@house2593 D&D's whole careers got cancelled over it.
You left out part of the quote. "Has there ever been a series that was that loved, then crashed and burned that hard, THAT FAST? Game of thrones was popular for awhile before it pissed everyone off. Twin Peaks only had one season before it started to tank.
F.K...IN...THE COFFEE...
**CREEPY AWKWARD SMILE**
Clear as a crisp spring morning.
Right, Zach?
It never fails!
HEY! Sweary says he’s never seen twin peaks and I for one believe him 100%
Aww, Jay, you REALLY missed out on not seeing this in theaters! The sound, most definitely the Pink Room scene, was INCREDIBLE! Looking around the theater, between the strobe lights & red lighting, was wild with the pulsating bass and low-end drone sound.
BTW, great correlation, saying Laura is kinda like Donnie Darko. Well done!
Donnie Darko owes a lot to David Lynch in general imo
@@j-skullz The sequel ( different filmmaker ) is even better "S. Darko"
We definitely need an extended re:View of the new season of Twin Peaks. It's basically an (albeit 18-hour-long) movie, and so appropriate for a re:View.
Im just glad someone loves the pink room music as much as i do
same. incredible piece. hypnotic as fuck.
I just saw a screening of David Lynch: The Art Life, which is basically a feature length interview with him about his early life, painting, and his rise to filmmaking. He ends up talking about some already famed stories such as the crying naked woman in his childhood which served as inspiration for Rossellini's nude freakout scene in Blue Velvet, and how the small two-block town served inspiration for most of his work as a whole. Interestingly though, he brings up this 'double-life' he had in high school where he would go out drinking in the city at night with some of his unsavory friends. At a certain point he said that he felt like he was living a 'triple-life' where he had to act different around his family than he would his friend group A versus friend group B, etc. and how at the time it was very hard to reconcile the feelings of being a very split young person. A pretty eerie summation and inspiration for how Laura Palmer's character operates.
FWWM is still pretty great though, and feels kind of like a bleak impressionist painting; if you look too close at the strokes you can sometimes get lost, but when you step back and view the whole thing it works pretty well, at least with Lynches intentions in mind. I listen to the OST at least once a week and I think it's even superior to the already great work on the TV show. I can't wait for Sunday!
I love whenever Jay says "an embarrassment of riches" because it always makes me think about Rich being repeatedly embarrassed.
The episode when Bob punches Madeline in the face, that was the most shocking thing I'd seen back in the day on network TV up to that point. I remember reading a review in the local paper railing on Lynch for his ultra-violence... This was back in the PMRC era of things.
In the throat. She's choking and Bob is enjoying her Garmonbozia.
Seeing Bob always terrifies me even when he was not in character
To answer the "Was there ever another series that was so beloved that crashed and burned" I'd have to say True Detective
Lee Erickson that was exactly what I was thinking, but its crash was so different in nature, due to the change in show format, that I'm not sure it quite fits.
I've never seen it, but from what friends have told me, Heroes is pretty much THE tv crash and burn scenario isn't it?
Yep, gotta be Heroes. Season 1 was perfect. They should never have made another episode.
I would have to agree with True Detective, at least on a personal level. Season 1 was a perfect storm of so many different factors, there was no way to repeat that.
Lee Erickson oh hello yeah!
I guess I’m in the minority but I’ve always loved the second season. The James/Evelyn thing sucked, Bens Civil War was questionable, the middle dragged a bit, and Donna became a bore but the rest was great. The first 7-8 episodes are wonderful, and the final 2 episodes are some of the best of all 3 seasons. Especially the finale. There wasn’t anything like it before and hasn’t been anything like it after. Except maybe episode 8 of the return. FWWM is great, too, but I actually prefer the first 30-40 minutes. Would love a continuation of that.
Speaking of, The Return is amazing and rivals season 1 easily.
Yeah first time watching I stopped before they revealed Leland as the Killer and then revisited it in film school cause I was getting super into Lynch (still am) and I have the same complaints. I think from the time Leland dies till Heather Graham got introduced there was really nothing special. The James story was stupid although I'm sorta glad he came back in the Return although I'm not a fan of how he acts. He comes off as some creepy old guy who can't get over the fact he's not young anymore. Ben's psychotic break was interesting and I liked how it made Bobby relevant and then I absolutely hated Donna in season 2. She was just so whiny and demanding unnecessary attention and pretty much destroyed her family through that although I'd be pissed too if I found out my dad wasn't my actual dad. Wyndom Earle was a really cool character and of course the finale was the greatest piece of television I've ever seen
But the season has 22 episodes. So besides your mentioned 10 episodes you really loved, there are a lot left.
Fuck yeah, that wide.
@@xmasthyme agreed big time about making Bobby relevant. He ended up becoming one of my favorite characters of the entire 3 seasons.
@@flilcha I never mentioned a specific amount of episodes I liked. I just pointed out that those in particular are great. The middle episodes are still good, just not on par with the rest.
Something I realized after watching this movie recently...the sound the Man From Another Place makes after saying 'I am the arm, and I sound like this' can be heard when Mike pulls up in his truck behind Leland and Laura in the chase scene. So many layers of visuals and sound in Lynch's work. I'd love to see you guys review Twin Peaks Season 3.
Seriously that dinner scene was like something out of a nightmare
This might be your best episode. Well done!
Has anyone read The Diary of Laura Palmer? I thought that added a lot to the show and to Fire Walk With Me. It's also horrible and tragic as she goes into the horrible abuse she has been suffering since she was little.
Even better, due to the new season, they've finally released an audiobook version of the diary, narrated by Sheryl Lee herself.
Mark Frost also wrote 'The Secret History of Twin Peaks' which was released late last year, presumably to fill in the story hoes between how the series ended and the current available cast for the new series.
That's how Mark Frost rolls.
i couldnt agree with jay more on the song "the pink room" .... such a hypnotic bowed double bass line and the bluesy guitarr over the swinging rock drum beat w little accents of atmospheric violin and deep drones.... its such an amazing song
Amazing re:view! To bring something up, I interpreted the reason that Cooper told Laura “don’t take the ring” is that he knew that taking that ring is what kills her, which it does. If she hadn’t taken the ring she would have been possessed by BOB, but she would be alive and that’s what Cooper prioritizes.
One of the details of Twin Peaks I really like is the theme song, and how the last bits of it become so much darker in the end. Like it sounds so calm during most of it, but the last seconds of it become really really dark.
I love the theme for that reason, I forget whose theme it is, but the way it manages to smoothly transition from a soaring and optimistic piece directly into an extremely dire and nerve-wracking lament.
Mike looks odd in this video
That's what happens when you drink too much skull-sourced vodka.
cfytcf "ugh cough- uh very nice"-Larry King
Wow hilarious I'm laughing nobody has made that joke before ever
Did you have a falling-out with punctuation?
He recently left JOSH and cut off his tattooed arm.
I absolutely adore this movie. So chilling, compelling and such great performances. Re-watching TP season 1&2 now.
1) Sheryl Lee and Ray Wise deserve an Oscar each for their incredible performances in such incredibly difficult roles. The fact they didn't is a crime against humanity.
2) How on earth could this heart-wrenching, terrifying and beautiful film have been booed at Cannes after Wild At Heart won a Palm D'ore?
3) What am I saying? Fuck the Academy and fuck award shows. =p
She said getting to work with Ray & Grace was a master class in acting.
I burst in years and quiet screams when watching Laura's scream in the last season, it was the same reaction I had when I confessed my sexual abuse to my supporting and loving life partner she is my Agent Cooper never gave up on me and my borderline pd, this series affected me so much and gave me power at the same time to tell someone. I could feel Laura as miself. It is truly an all time masterpiece.
Re:View Lost Highway
No.
@@Amateur0Visionary did you think this made you look cool and not just like an asshole?
YES.
My favourite Lynch.
shut the fuck up, amateur
Not sure if you can include that much licenced music in a review.
Iloved Twin Peaks the show more than anything I've ever watched I believe. Mesmerizing. I'd rewatch it just for the dreamy comforting atmosphere, and the smoke-filled Diners, the cherry pie, and the shockingly beautiful women.
Sheryl Lee was so amazing in the film, I always wondered why she did not go on to star in many more. This is probably just a silly idea, but I thought maybe everyone was so in love with the Laura Palmer character that they almost couldn't bear to see Sheryl Lee play someone else.
It was definitely a case of being "typecast", but even more extreme, like... "rolecast". The role becoming so iconic that the actor suffers because... how do you ever believe that actor as being anyone else? It's like if you tried to cast Leonard Nimoy as anyone but Spock. It also didn't help, I'm sure, that the series fell in popularity so precipitously at the end.
She got sick
*I love. LOVE, that I live in a timeline where Twin Peaks, The Return, Fire Walk With Me, The Missing Pieces, AND your reviews for ALL of it exist*
"We already know the back story of Laura Palmer, so why do we need to see the prequel?" is the exact attitude Lynch was trying to correct through making Twin peaks. He wants us to actually care about characters... especially the ones who suffer.
"Has there ever been a series that was THAT loved and then crashed and burned that quickly and that hard?"
Heroes
dear god, I totally forgot about Heroes. that's how mediocre it got
That's immediately what I said when they said that.
That show sank so fast.
I thought they were talking about Game of Thrones but then I remember this was an old video
Every year in my hometown we have a Harry Dean Stanton festival, and one year they showed "Fire Walk with Me". As my boyfriend and I were walking out, I overheard an elderly couple saying "I have no idea what that was" and I explained to them it was based on a TV show called "Twin Peaks", that's on Netflix and they had never heard of it and were even more confused.
Best episode of re:view yet. It's great that you are talking about more complex movies once in a while.
"Has any show fallen off this hard in popularity?"
*Game of Thrones enters the chat*
Watching this film made me think about Bob and what Albert says in season 2: "maybe thats all that bob is, the evil that men do". in my view Bob is both the evil spirit the show leads us to believe in and the personal darkness of Leyland Palmer.
I actually watched Fire Walk With Me after just watching the pilot and the film is what hooked me into watching the show. Not only the show but I've really grown to appreciate Lynch's work.
Sheryl Lee and the actor of Leland are two of the best actors I've seen in my life. It's crazy they never had a famous career afterwards.
Oh, Ray Wise has gotten plenty of work over the years. But yes, Sheryl Lee deserved a lot better.
Two uploads in a week my life is complete
I'm still hoping a HiTB of Ridley's Scott new shitfest will hit till sunday. Oh boy, that'll be fun!
Haha. Life is good.
Twin Peaks=Pawnee . Dear Meadow=Eagleton
To anyone obsessed with Twin Peaks, I would highly recommend watching Twin Perfect's four and a half hour video explanation of the entire series (I'm aware of the irony in trying to "explain" Twin Peaks at all, but so does he).
And I say: No! The whole explanation or understanding is in the series, the movie and the viewer. It's really important to have your own interpretation.
wertor I agree. Although, I do have a plan of watching it when I’m old!😂
@@wertor666 so that immediately means we can't have fun theorizing? come on man, that's not fair in the slightest. Let people do whatever they want.
@@eminemfan50098 You can do whathever you want. I gave my opinion. It wasn't an order.
@@wertor666 Rudeness aside... there IS a single correct interpretation, which you will see is fact if you actually watch that video essay. ^^ Does that mean the one we believe is automatically THE correct one, then? No--but given the fact that Lynch says there is one right interpretation, I fail to see what else it could possibly be given the clues. Theorize all you want, but don't get up in people's faces because we've gobbled up enough media to understand that Lynch really did have one specific interpretation in mind.
Most unique TV show of all time. Thank god for David Lynch!
Miami Vice is actually an earlier example of film-style cinematography on TV. Not trying to discount Twin Peaks or anything, but it's worth checking out if you want to see something that was very different in 1984. I think it holds up well, too. Very different TV shows though, obviously.
Miami Vice definitely has some Film Noir elements to it, for sure. Except there's no way you'd dare even think to watch it in black and white, lol.
I love when Jay and Wizard talk about weird movies
The best thing about this movie is how we get to see everything from Laura's perspective. Until that point we only get specific snippets of her and a lot of rumors which leaves the audience to wonder what is true and what isn't, granting her an almost unknowable quality due to the varying accounts of her deeds. The Movie changes everything about how we see Laura by confirming that it was basically all true and by showing that it was in fact much worse than we could have really imagined. Truly a masterpiece of acting, writing, and directing.
I have never heard this much love given to Fire Walk With Me
I love Josh. Although Mike tries, he just cant reach Jay's level of nerd when it comes to film. Josh on the other hand not only equals it, he sometimes passes it.
in a nice, modest way
You just like the charisma, which is fair, because I also like their pairing the most for that reason
Mike more than makes up for it with his level of nerd about Star Trek though :p
I'm amazed at how legitimately good a reviewer Jay has become.
"Was there any other show that was so beloved and then crashed so badly?" Heroes.
This movie was so hard for me to watch. I felt so bad for Laura and how tortured and abused she was I was that I felt queasy, but that also says so much about Sheryl Lee's performance.
@@TETCOM. I just watched it and found it pretty stupid
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti Well, yeah, you think your username is funny.
@@press_x_tojason wow look at you such a Big Man Im sure you went to the school of Big Men where you took your lessons on how to be such a Big Man
Where's Mike? How come nobody is drinking? This discussion between Jay and beard guy is way too coherent.
"I dont think its going to be all hot coffee and cherry pie" sure was an understatement.
I remember the song so well. I recall the huge hype the film and the show had back then. Even all these years after I was in high school I remember the show and the movie. I never saw it but felt like I had with all the hype and talk going on about it.
Ray wise spoke about how David Lynch didn't want anyone to know who the killer was, when he signed on for the show he had NO idea.
David Lynch had Ray Wise, as well as the actors who played Ben Horne and Bob, all shoot the scene where they kill Madeline. Sheryle Lee spent 15 hrs on set getting 'beaten and killed' by three seperate men.
When Lynch revealed to Ray Wise he was the killer, he considered quitting. Not out of outrage for the material or Lynch, but because he has a daughter himself (she was 2 at the time) and the thought of even pretend killing a pretend daughter kept him up at night.
Lynch was able to make it ok for him however, when he described to Ray the scene where he is dying in Coopers arms, the tibetan passages guiding him to a gentle death. He sees his daughter and her arms are open to him, forgiving him for what Bob had made him do.
Without that forgiveness from Laura's character, there's a chance Ray would have been unable to do the scenes at all
So, Laura is forgiving her Father in the end and Leland was truly possessed by Bob. I believe this should be accepted as canon out of respect for Ray Wise and how hard he worked to see this through
Also, I reccomend watching the interveiw, his impression of Lynch is bang-fucking-on and hilarious
CZcams: 'Ray Wise describing how he found out he was the killer on Twin Peaks' - BeckyVids (1:41 for Ray's Lynch impression)