I am now imaging Dougie instead of Jar Jar in Phantom Menace. This will now remain my default memory of what has become in my head a significantly better film.
My mistake I hadn’t finished the video. I thought you meant when Frank Truman Skyped doc Hayward and he said he was fishing and cooked it up right there on the lake
@@INT_Based that was the worst kind of "shove it all in" pandering garbage, though. That scene, and the log lady stuff really just trashed all immersion in the story. The Pete scene was *exactly* how you do a fanservice callback. Almost makes up for the rest.
@@deano1699 considering how Lynch behaves relative to casting, I'm pretty sure that he wasn't doing it to pander to anyone with the log lady but instead just to have Catherine Coulson be part of it. I'm happy and a little sad for it, since she passed away right after. I'm happy I could see her in the role one more time after being part of my teens and I'm sure she and Lynch felt the same about working on Twin Peaks together once again. We're talking about a guy who makes videos everyday just to say hello and tell the time. He doesn't do it because it's popular he does it because he has feels for it.
The scene where Cooper comes back is one of the most satisfying moments from any movie, tv show, etc. I seriously felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders the first time I saw it.
@@kellinwinslow1988 I'd agree, except for "Mrs. Chalfont" being the previous owner of the Palmer house in the alternate Twin Peaks. That was the same name Carl gave to Cooper in FWWM as the owner of the trailer where Agent Desmond found the ring and went missing. I think Laura's scream at the end meant they'd arrived back in the "real" Twin Peaks.
@@kellinwinslow1988 That's true. But I've also wondered if anything really happened after Cooper stared at Diane in Sheriff Truman's office. What do you think the face overlay represented?
@@kellinwinslow1988 It is fascinating stuff. I suspect there are things meant to be interpreted and other things that are just meant to be. A foundation is required in order for there to be something to transcend. My feeling is the line "is it future or is it past?" wasn't just referring to the events of FWWM. Maybe I'm applying an overly positive feeling to it, but I think Coop brought Laura home. I think the latest event we saw was Coop's overlaid expression and his final line "we live inside a dream." He and Diane kissed "only once before" and that was at Glastonbury Grove. We saw it happen. Just a guess.
The choppy editing, the looped noise soundtrack, the screaming, the fading to black... man, it terrified me on such a deeper level than I imagined. Lynch is great at doing that.
It's definitely up there, but I don't think anything will ever freak me out more than Laura Dern's face superimposed over the phantom after she shoots him
@@the25thprime I agree! One of my favorite lines from the original series will always be "you remind me of a small Mexican Chi-wow-wow". It just comes out of nowhere, has barely any context, and Cooper doesn't even bat an eye at the weird compliment.
Lucy's "cellular phones" revelation wasn't unmotivated; Good Coop called her from the road while Bad Coop was already in the station so she knew BC was an impostor and shot him.
And earlier in the season Sheriff Truman is talking to her on the phone as he walks into the station and she’s so confused she screams and falls back off her chair
Thanks for this, Mickey! I was hoping someone would point this out. :) Her revelation is definitely not unmotivated, and I thought it was a very satisfying payoff to the earlier cell phone moment. (And how cool that it's Lucy's realization that leads to her being the one to shoot Evil Coop at the start of the showdown.) Like so many, she's such a great, endlessly surprising character.
9:07 Cooper isn't in the Red Room in this photo. He's in the conference room of in the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Station. I believe this is the scene where he's questioning Dr. Jacoby while he's doing his weird golf ball magic trick.
Your observation works for me. Although I do wonder who took the photo of Cooper at that moment and why, and how the FBI ends up with it 25 years later.
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc because its one of the most common images of Cooper we as fans know. Tammy is looking at it like a fan of Kyle would look at a pic of Cooper more than FBI character inside the show. That is why that particular photo was chosen. We as fans know that image and can relate to the character in that moment. Jay has it wrong here. It was not lazy but it was intentional.
David Lynch has accused Quentin Tarantino of ripping him off in the past so I think the Tim Roth and Jennifer Jason Leigh characters were a shot at him.
@@kommissar.murphy because both those actors have appeared in tarantino films, and their death (and characters as a whole) are very tarantino esque, to what is seemingly a satirical level :)
Well, Tarantino's whole schtick as an artist is 'Homage' to older movies / genres that he passionately loves......It's not like he makes any effort to hide it. - And like all the best artists; even when they're distinctly trying to copy someone else's vision it comes out entirely *their* flavour
Something about the frogmoth thing. A long time ago when the first series had aired (1991), a book came out called Welcome to Twin Peaks: An Access Guide to the Town. It's about the history and sights of Twin Peaks, written like a local guide for tourists. I bought it at the time because I was well into TP by then. Anyway, when I watched episode 8, it was really bugging me so I checked the book. On page 14 is an alleged Chinook legend of the woman in the lake covered in flying frogs. The picture that accompanies the tale is more or less identical to the frogmoth that hatches from the egg.
Yes! I revisited that book shortly after the return & was like, WHOA! I'd since forgotten that again. I love when continuing stories give previous installments added depth & context.
Jay: "I don't know what's happening, but I know how it's making me feels...". I think there is the talent of David Lynch, he seeks to make you feel things, not that you understand them.
"I don't know what's happening, but I know how it's making me feel..." Somewhere in the Return's extras, Lynch is directing a scene (I can't remember which), and he's frustrated because he feels it doesn't "have a mood" He keeps trying things to bring out a mood. I didn't think too much of it at the time, but it's something I keep coming back to. It's like he prioritizes mood over everything else, hence so much abstraction in his art that remains emotionally resonant. And, if I remember right, he was looking for "A mood" not "THE mood". I take that to mean he's letting the scene make the mood for itself, rather than him imposing an intended mood onto it.
19:00 Mark Frost has revealed a little bit more about the Lynch/Sherilyn Fenn feud over The Return: If you'll notice, not only does none of Audrey's scenes involve the rest of the cast, there is also no mention or reference to the Audrey specific parts of the main story: that she was raped by Mr C, that Richard Horne is her son, and so on. That isn't a coincidence. In the original script by Lynch and Frost, Audrey was just a hairdresser in town and her big scene would have been what happens to Sylvia Horne in the final show: beaten and abused and robbed by Richard. Sherilyn Fenn, who is basically the biggest Cooper/Audrey shipper in the world, was just offended on every level that her main storyline will be that Cooper raped her and she gets abused and screamed at by her evil bastard son. This is why she went on Twitter and basically said in as many words, she wa quitting the show and it was sexist. What happened was Lynch took Fenn out to lunch and according to Frost, Lynch and Fenn invented a new storyline themselves and Lynch asked Frost's permission to go off and write it himself, hence why it's so standalone and apart from everything else in the story. In the final product, the storyline where Audrey was raped, has a son, and keeps a picture of Cooper by her bedside, and the storyline where Audrey argues with her husband Charlie over Billy run in parallel lines to each other, never mentioning or crossing over to the other. That ambiguity is why it could easily be Sherilyn Fenn the actress or any other theory. Even Mark Frost doesn't have a clue; in The Final Dossier, he says she was a hairdresser and now may or may not be in a mental institution or may be somewhere else, who knows?
@@andylikesstuffchannel Im not sure that he does though. Nor that he needs to have answers, mb he just had the questions. For me David Lynch is the guy that J.J. Abrams wants to be with his black box thing. There are a bazillion interpretations of the true meaning of TP , I think its part of the fun. Also I think they changed many things on the fly as they progressed in the show. As I'we seen it: Bob and Mike are supposed to be the demons of the old, especially new testament, posessing and getting of by pain and suffering they cause, but later Bob became some sort of a creation of Judy (I think Judy vomited him to life at ep8). For sure at the making of the original show there was no idea of the Blue Rose, Cooper was just a holly-jolly and genial FBI detective with holistic approach. Although Lynch built a remarkable work of art I think that at the and he also has impressions and ideas and not the answers.
Interesting thing about the Audrey storyline that I’ve gathered from fan forums, I’m not sure how true it is but it makes a lot of sense. Supposedly in the original script, Audrey had a much smaller role and was going to be in the scenes taking care of Johnny and would have been the one who was attacked by Richard. Sherilyn Fenn lashed out on Twitter, saying that she felt Lynch was setting her aside (that part definitely happened, I remember that). So Lynch listened to her, put Audrey’s mom where Audrey originally would have been and basically wrote this crazy new storyline on the fly, allowing her to do some incredible chilling work. If that’s the case, I’m so glad it worked out that way.
Very very indirectly you could almost connect that in a meta context to everything with Judy and how they just put "Audrey's" mom in her place. Since all that still happens and to a woman character. Obviously not intentional and it's more complicated than that but just a mental connection I just made.
I feel like if Bob is the evil that men do, Judy is the brokenness people have endured. It's a statement on how trauma can corrupt, which is why I feel sarah palmer is Judy. This experience has become so scarring, she has the capacity for a far greater evil than she should have had she not been exposed to Bob. When sarah palmer opens her face, we see darkness, with the occasional lightning strike to represent the fast fading goodness within her, which had been almost entirely erased with this crushing black. Laura's is pure and white, showing how death gave her the gift of innocence which her life style inevitably would have prevented
I like your theory. Expanding on what Sarah represents, it’s interesting to theorise that she embodies an apathy that allows evil to flourish; when in the absence of a saviour, contempt and misery are willing accomplices to pure evils drive. Like, it’s suggested in FWWM that Sarah is a regular witness to Leland’s moments of inducing fear into his daughter. Did she perhaps know, deep down, that Leland was raping their daughter and all Sarah can do is grow evermore anxious whilst simultaneously never confront the evil that’s in their house. By Return, she epitomises apathy!
@LeftRight True, not apathy but rather not speaking up for morality and justice where you acknowledge its absence. Due partly to cowardice, for sure. In typical Lynch style, the Palmer household is almost a reflection of the 50’s patriarchal family unit; ‘swell’ on the surface, but filled with nightmarish perversions and deep psychological problems
@@we3bus Speaking of 'looking away' I heard/read a wonderful idea that "The Horse is the white of the eye" could refer to Sarah, 'looking away' (and thus showing the white of her eye rather than the coloured section in the centre) from Leyland's actions. And of course it's Sarah who keeps seeing a white horse.
Man, week after week when it aired I was holding out hope that David Bowie had filmed something before he died. I'm fine with Teapot Jefferies but could you imagine how awesome it would be to get a Blackstar era David Bowie in a Lynch project?
It's the 5th anniversary of David Bowies death tomorrow. Still upset David Bowie didn't live to see the role. I'm sure he would've given it a shot given better health, and had a hell of a time while doing it too.
I don't know if he would have come back or not. There was an article that said Lynch had to get his permission to use some unseen/alternate takes from FWWM and Bowie only signed off on it on the condition that Lynch not use any audio because he was so upset at how badly the southern accent has been mocked through the years.
@@lavoielactee7179 i once read that Bowie himself had disliked the accent he used and then asked for a more authentic southern actor. Could be some of the both reasons tho.
I took Audrey's storyline to be the culmination of one of the Return's central themes that you can't go back, no matter how strong your nostalgia is. Audrey will never really dance like that again, the past is gone and the only thing ruminating on nostalgia really does is trap you.
The special effects felt very intentional to me. They reminded me of Lynch's artwork and animations, very hands on. Either way, as far as cheap effects go his are unique and pretty consistent. Never boring at least. I forgot how effective the woodsman stuff was.
i actually really like the “cheap” DIY affects in the return . high budge CGI so often feels soulless and uncanny especially in the recent years. I feel like simpler special affects are a lot easier for the imagination to explore and relate to as you’re watching them. the special affects in the return were so immersive !!
About Sarah Palmer and the desert bug: My interpretation is that Sarah was indeed evil from season 1. We see glimpses that show us that Sarah knew what Leland and Bob were doing to Laura. The guilt and grief eats her up until we reach the return where she is just a shell of hatred, guilt and sorrow. Borrowing from Twin Perfect that explanation about the woodsman broadcast it makes perfect sense about purposefully turning your eyes away from seeing what is happening in your house because you want to maintain the notion of a perfect white picket fence with the model husband and daughter
Sorry to revive this old post, but you're absolutely right. Sarah also demonstrates some supernatural powers early on in season one with her premonitions, an indication she might have some latent abilities, which we learn later is probably a product of Judy. She's quick to put the responsibility of dealing with Leland off on others, never acknowledging what she knows. She "looks away," while immersing herself in violent, junk food television (while eating actual junk food), so even without the frog thing, we know she has some supernatural aspect and loves to immerse herself in twisted violence. Sarah is definitely not a "good person," though we see she was prior to the frog thing in the Return.
The convenience store was set up way back in the show's unaired closed pilot ending. Then shown for the first time in fire walk with me deleted scenes.
@@NYGAllDay those deleted bits from the pilot were also included later on in the first season in cooper's dream. "We lived among the people, I think you say convenience store, we lived above it. I mean it like it is, like it sounds." -Mike
@@darrenthetuber743 The unaired pilot bits are included in the twin peaks dvd collections. It's just as valid as the missing pieces footage from fire walk with me, considering the pilot material at least was shown later on in the first season in some form.
It was also the ending of the 'TV movie' edit released stand alone on VHS. Before the DVDs came out that was the only version available to me so whenever I would show the pilot to friends I would pause and explain how the ending is non canon (except for Red Room parts that are at the end of episode 2). I've heard Mike mention the convenience store and then say the poem so many times it feels like it's canon and with S3 it finally basically is after all.
Jay hit the nail on the head for me when I first watched that final episode, as they're driving...I got more resolution than I expected I would've in the previous episode, and now I'm totally lost, this whole new thing is happening, and I realize there are just a few minutes left in this wild Twin Peaks adventure, I was sad and baffled and anxious. Well played, Lynch.
yeah, I felt very angry when they completely missed the point on the why the effects look like that, they aren't "expensive" maybe, but every visual means something.
I love/hate those special effects. So unique and terrifying. Like reality is falling apart but with the "simplicity" of something that you could understand.
the surrealist stuff I am okay with, but some of the gore and that one time the dude with the shotgun (killer couple duo) shot a phone and I could tell it was some gunshot.png they got online or something. kind of felt like they were trying to be conservative with money (which I am fine with if that's the case).
the special effects honestly remind me of the strange way reality warps in a psychedelic trip or in a dream, like things move in a super smooth unnerving way and reality seems a whole lot more platonic and "cut-board" like the monty python sketch shown, like it's a bunch of abstractions and not so much something with extreme fidelity.
There are special effects made to convey realism, and there are special effects designed to convey mood or concept. Lynch seems to enjoy doing the latter more than the former.
I love him in Scream, the big drooling mess! *spoilers* That line “my parents are gonna be so mad me” that he shrieks as he’s bleeding to death is a great moment of comic tragedy.
Totally, I think his performance in Scream is underrated, especially how it turns in the last act. I definitely wasn't expecting Lillard to be one of the killers the first time I saw it, and the whole last part where they stab each other to try to cover their tracks is chilling. That scene always reminded me of the home movies that the Columbine killers made leading up to the school shooting (yes, I know Scream came first, but still) with them hanging out with friends like normal kids, but then when it is just the two of them they talk gleefully about planning the massacre. Anyways, I was super excited seeing Lillard in episode 1 of The Return because I've always felt he wasn't given many chances to do good work after he was typecast as a screwball comic actor after his work in the late 90s and early 00s, and he's definitely one of the highlights of the season.
My take is that "Black fire/Electricity" is all basically ideas and creativity and the Atomic bomb is the absolute peak of destructive creativity. Fire warms you, but also hurts. It's a natural force that you can use for your own good, but you can never really control, just like ideas. You don't decide about creative ideas, they just happen like bolts of lightning creating fire. Wires don't just carry electricity, but also ideas from place to place and even television (especially digital) is just the sharing of ideas through electricity. On the other side of the spectrum is Natural fire/Film/light. I rarely see people discussing the meaning of "energy" in Twin Peaks, which has multiple forms (Light, Dark, Fire, Electricity, Fossil fuels or sugar and coffee but also happyness and sadness) and how everyone seems to be motivated by created more of these enegies. But say what you will, Twin Peaks is one of the rare series that really make you think about your own interpretation of it all. It's true art in that way. You can't talk about it without expressing yourself in a way. Like art.
It was kind of implied that Sarah Palmer killed (like the lioness, and possibly ate) the delivery boy that brought her shopping, and that that is what Hawk heard in her house when he called with her, and why she looked so shifty when he asked her if someone was back there. There was something seriously not right with her. I had also thought that some of her scenes may have actually been from the alternate reality we see in the last episode, which is why she hates Laura so much. I was thinking that Audrey is in a coma this whole time and after her dance, she suddenly became aware of her situation.
I like how the little graph that shows the play results in the time bar is pretty much straight across, in this review and the 1st part too. Goes to show that anyone who doesn't care for Lynch's stuff checks out immediately, but the people who are into his stuff usually watch these 2 videos all the way through. ... neat
its problem is that the plot is way too convoluted and messy... it could have been executed better, and then the incredible potential in there could have shone through better... it will always stand out as too disjunct and almost frustrating at times, because of this. However Lynch is still a genius and there's moments of true miracle in there for sure.
About 15-20 years ago, I had a chat with Mark Frost who told me that they (him and Lynch) had planned for Audrey to sacrifice her life to save Agent Cooper from the Black Lodge in the third season on ABC, before it was cancelled.
Making some coffee. Thank goodness for everyone in RLM, but taking a moment for Jay and Josh: their friendship, love for “unusual” films and shows, and their particular and natural way of discussing are just wonderful. Happy New Year, all!
So great to revisit this! I’m fairly confident the use of bad special effects is just one of David Lynch’s metafiction techniques that remind you you’re watching tv and makes Lynch’s hand visible. The obsession with electricity and curtains, hammy acting, self referencing are in some ways to do with this too. The shifting between terrible effects and stunningly beautiful ones felt very deliberate and careful to me...
I love this series. One thing I thought hasn't been addressed much is that the Cooper at the very end of the show is no longer the joyful, optimistic Cooper that came out of the coma and was present all during the original run of Twin Peaks. Instead this Cooper feels like an amalgamation of Bob and Cooper; he seems grumpy, even mean sometimes, but still wants to help people and solve cases.
@@BradsGonnaPlay But when he first came out of the Dougie trance he seemed as chipper as ever. It was only after his last visit that he became a grump.
Cooper was never just all coffee and cherry pies in the original show, he got serious when he needed to. I think his lack of chipperness in the finale is just a reflection of the gravity of the situation
My whole read on The Return is that it was a critique of Twin Peaks fandom, and how much Lynch hated that it became so wrapped up in donuts and apple pie, when in reality it was a brutal story about a girl who has been abused, raped, and murdered. It really was more of a sequel to Firewalk With Me than it was the original series.
This is sort of close to one of the more thought-provoking interpretations that I've heard -- that FWWM is the only time we see "real life" in the series. That Seasons 1, 2 and 3 are all part of Laura's dream to escape the reality of her abuse -- and that she might not even be dead in the first place. According to this interpretation The Return is so dark because her "dream world" is breaking down after a long period of denial and delusion.
@@sethbromley7186 that’s great. Love it. Lynch is my favorite filmmaker and FWWM is my favorite of his films. It’s so damn dark. Love it. And I love that The Return is really a sequel to that.
I don't think Lynch minds that. He loves the humor and beauty and cherry pies and donuts as much as anyone, and he even put a lot of that in season 3. Twin Peaks to Lynch isn't just about horror and tragedy. It has tons of goofy fun in it too, especially season 3.
Awesome video once again. If you read the Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier book by Mark Frost, you get an unique perspective of Joudy. In this chapter they mention that Judy is a Sumerian entity that feasted on human flesh and thrived on human suffering. This is why I do believe that Sara Palmer is "possessed?" by Judy because at the grocery store she keeps on saying I'm not myself and at the bar, she tells the guy she will eat him and in fact does. The chapter in the book also describes the male version of evil named Ba'al which later in history became known as Beezlebub (or should we call him Bob for short?). The book describes if a male and female ( which I believe is Evil Coop (BOB) and Sara Palmer (Judy) ) ever got together it would basically mean the end of the world. Or better yet, the end of the world of dreams? Based on this, I believe the this is the whole point of why Evil Coop is looking for Judy. Not to destroy her, but join her. In Episode 17, The Fireman is also aware of this plan and intervenes by intersecting the coordinates ( Sara Palmers House ) and tricks Evil Coop to the Twin Peaks Sherriff's Station instead. What do you guys think about my interpretation based on what I read in Mark Frost's awesome book?
Yeah this is totally right. Judy was what first appeared in the big glass box and stabbed and killed the most awkward sex scene ever. (ThAnKs TrAcY) Later when Sarah Palmer opens her face at the bar you see darkness and a little sharp object coming in and out quickly - just like Judy. Judy then went to possess Sarah because she is an easy target (Laura and Leland "relationship" and death) and waits for Bob.
@@JinzoCrash Yes! Just a full season of that. Just the Horne's being confused would be fine. Maybe have episode 8 go absolutely mental with exposition and special effects, and then just cut back to another 8 episodes of confused Hornes.
@@JinzoCrash This is all solid stuff, write it down - however, we need a link to electricity otherwise it just won't fly. Unless Josie is now trapped in an organic dimension because of the connection with wood, and that's separate from the electronically connected world of the two lodges. My God... We've got at least 6 seasons ahead of us.
In one of the books there was something about that place being built on a Native American burial ground and the wood is full of spirits or something like that. So she’s just part of the hotel now. I think even at one point in season 1 Pete says he thought he saw a face when walking through.
That random neighbor with the gun who initiates the shootout is the same guy from the FBI case that Gordon Cole is discussing in the board room meeting early on in the season.
@@MrCecil Yeah, I believe the Polish neighbor was an accountant. IIRC the gun on the desk matched the one he used to shoot Chantel, and the jar of beans I think was a reference to how accountants are also known as "bean counters'. There were some other connections but I can't rememeber what they were now, its been a while.
Can confirm they played Part 8 in theaters. Daniel Knox hosted a presentation of Fire Walk With Me at the Music Box in Chicago, late into the summer of '17. He followed it up with a special surprise presentation of the episode right after. It was LOUD and GLORIOUS.
The atomic bomb is more than just an inflection point of horror and violence. Deleuze wrote (in movement image and time image, his two big works on cinema) about how, in splitting the atom, man changed space and therefore changed time as a linear entity. It’s the creation of Bob not just because it’s a moment of great evil, but because it’s when things stopped making sense.
37:17 for clarification, the egg that the frog thing came out of was one of several eggs you can see the “judy” monster barfing out in space. I dont think the implication is that the frog monster is Laura.
As far as I can tell, Dido created Laura to combat the frog thing, which is why the two events happen so close together. Jay missed the boat on that one.
@@12ealDealOfficial Not to combat the frog thing specifically, i don't think. But Jay realizes that the golden orb was created to combat the evil that was introduced from Judy. Hes just saying he doesn't think the orb is literally Laura Palmer, but rather the spirit of good which Laura symbolizes. I don't necessarily agree but it's an interesting take
Lynch delivered a love letter to his cast, characters, crew and fans. It was sweet and chilling and indulgent and fun and I loved every minute of the ride.
Or the biggest culminative "fuck you" by David Lynch to the parts of the audience that weren't satisfied enough. The most important part of that scene, of course: Sheryl Lee's still got the pipes.
No not very often, that is why we have to appreciate writers like David Lynch, like Forrest's box o' chocolates, "you never know what you're going to get." And if I may be so bold as to extend the analogy, "but you always walk away satisfied."
Wow is Josh way off about the frogmoth! It comes from one of Judy's eggs that she vomits up and it makes the most sense that since the Woodsman put everyone to sleep so the frog can crawl inside, it's most likely pretty damn evil and not the golden beautiful light of Laura. It looks identical to one of those eggs. Laura came from a glowing orb.
For real! Same with his take that the entity in Sarah isn't necessarily evil because both Laura and Sarah can take their faces off. Like, what? Behind Laura's face is a beautiful light and behind Sarah's is one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen lol
@@Bozogumps Yeah! I know Lynch's work is interpretive, but if you pay attention to the tone and some of the small details, you can make these connections pretty concretely...
Also, she just had her first kiss before, and was probably daydreaming about her future life just before she fell asleep. This is why the creature chose her, because her innocence was gone, so she could hatch for a long period of time, insidiously eating Sarah up from the inside, making her blind to all the abuse and destroying her idea of a perfect marriage aka the American dream.
I'm so glad you guys made this. There's a lot of good writing on The Return, but disappointingly few good video analyses - a lot of it is theorising about what connects where (and obviously that has its place - hell it's present and appropriate here as well) but it ought be subservient to theme and tone, and a lot of fans, in their enthusiasm for the mystery, can forget that - which is understandable, but diminishes the value of their critique. Josh and Jay can always be counted on to do quality discussions of the stuff they like. I'm gonna be returning to these two videos almost as often as I'll be returning to The Return. Thank you so very dearly.
If you like theme and tone, definitely watch the Lost in the Movies videos (if you haven't already). He's still making his main S3 material, but it should be coming soon. But there's a 25+ part series for the first two seasons and FWWM, which are essential viewing IMO. So plenty to be going on with.
I loved 'The Return' so much when I watched it as it was initially airing. To me it was like David Lynch invited everyone along on a film festival of everything he loves about cinema. I was grinning ear to ear with enjoyment all throughout it. That love and appreciation has only grown with time.
Ever had a nightmare that shook you to your core? Where you’ve woke up and still felt that indescribable dread? That’s how that final scene feel to me. Lynch encapsulated the feeling of pure, uneasy, fear. Ugh. Brilliant.
I fell that this type of ultimate dread, is actually what every one of us are going to feel, at the moment of Death..Lynch is preparing us, somehow, for this inevitable trauma. He is brave for doing so, as most viewers simply do not want to think about their mortality!
The last part of Twin Peaks in my opinion is a play on the idea that in the battle of good and evil, people don't necessarily want good to win, but to be winning. The biggest clue towards this is the scene with the tea kettle where he shows the number 8, which can also be interpreted as the infinity symbol. The 8 in tarot specifically recalls the Justice card (traditionally, not Rider-Waite) which can be symbolic of the whole good versus evil conflict of the show. But the infinity symbol is the idea that there is no end to this conflict - and Phillip Jeffries is almost taunting Cooper with the 8 when he shows it. So Cooper basically resets the conflict after good wins in episode 17 to win again because both he and the audience craves such a conflict, where good will eventually triumph over evil. The fact that some people were disappointed by the actual climax shows this odd facet of human nature. Although, it's fair to feel this way - why would Mr. Jackpots stop at the first jackpot, if he can win more?
@@ContentWithJeremiah I'm with ya bud. It's my favorite "film" of the past decade as well. Absolutely. The next "film" for me would be Too Old to Die Young.
Ok, but if the "pocket dimension" is where they trap Judy, and when they cross over into the other world they're crossing over into our world, then that means that yes, the world of Twin Peaks is now safe. But now, Judy, that unimaginable elemental evil, is in OUR world.
I think it's summed up in Jeffries's line: "We live inside a dream." Dreams have patterns and basis in reality, but ultimately they are a mystery that can't, maybe shouldn't be explained.
This is my favorite episode of re:view and probably the greatest thing redlettermedia has ever done. There’s nothing out in all of the internet, books, documentaries that even come close to the immense respect and affection jay and josh show in this almost two hour discussion about one of the most mysterious entities that has ever been created by the human mind. I just have to say thanks you guys.
@@JinzoCrash the previous re:view they did mentioned that video and I agree with them that it completely ruins the mystery and all of the interest in the show. I got half an hour in and paused because there are no “conclusive” answers. All David Lynch would say to twin perfect’s video is “no.”.
The woman who answered the door at the Palmer house is the actual real-life owner of that house. Her name is Mary Reber. This supports the living inside a dream (or TV) lines from Cooper and Jeffries. They actually traveled to the real house outside of the TV world. Judy knew they were coming so she flipped the switch to reality. Also, the older version of Laura Palmer in the last episode is White Lodge-manufactured. That's why they show Laura's face in the golden orb before they send it off.
I just watched Briggs disappear into the Woods in season 2, and now the dark part of season 2 lies ahead. This is a welcome distraction boys, thank you.
@@gsesquire3441 Interesting :) But the main thing that leads me to believe that the last season will not be released, is that there seems to be zero noticeable activity as to filming it. Lynch is currently more interested in talking about weather on his YT channel, rather than actually making movies. I'd love to be proven wrong, though
The horse is the one behind the curtain, possibly one of the most evil characters in the show. Dark within for sure. And those whites of the eyes following Cooper and Laura in the car in the final episode is a big hint (one of the reasons for that long driving scene, I think.)
A little something I noticed. When (possibly) young Sarah Palmer is walking with her friend (Miguel from Cobra Kai!) they find a penny. Abe Lincoln is on the penny. The first Woodsman we see soon after is the actor who looks a lot like Lincoln (and has played him in other things).
When Sarah Palmer opens her face in the bar scene, we see a hand with a prominent dead spirit finger. I feel like she is a character embodiment of true hopelessness, stuck in a loop in that house of her own personal hell. This would make her ripe for garmonbozia farming. "Bob evil" has a manic chaos feel. Maybe "Judy evil" is this type of suffering when all hope is truly lost, the type of evil Hawk won't even talk about.
I enjoyed these 2 Re:View episodes so much. Thank you guys for bringing me back to the world of Twin Peaks for a bit, and getting to hear you two talk about all the wildness of the show was fantastic! I just finished The Return over the summer, so these videoe came at a perfect time for me. There is so much darkness that truly was unsettling to see at moments and just made me sick to think about. But at the same time, so much goodness that made my heart melt and bring a huge smile across my face. Now, I need to take the time to rewatch the season because as you guys said, it is a lot to take in upon first viewing. A lot of the events that took place will probably make a lot more sense to me, and there will be a lot more to appreciate I'm sure.
It definitely feels like Sarah Palmer is posessed by Judy. Maybe Sarah was so depressed after all the tragedies in her life that Judy took over her body relishing in all the negative energy Sarah's feeling provided. That's probably why you see her destroying her body (heavy drinking) and watching excessive violence on TV, to further feed the negative energy. And her face reveal before the feeding (biting the dude) in the bar - it really looks like Judy is inside Sarah Palmer.
9:20 you guys are right, it's a frame grab for sure - but it's actually not from the red room, it's Cooper in the conference room at the Sheriff's station in TP in S01 when he's talking to Jacoby.
While I liked S3 on my first watch as a long time fan, revisiting it recently-and watching vids like this one along with first part- has clearly confirmed to me it’s truly a masterwork. It’s an amazing achievement
I am in my mid forties. I've never seen any of the Twin Peaks series, or films. Think it is now about time I also binged something for the first time too.
Enjoy! It's kind of a shame you've seen this and thus that you have had a fair few spoilers, but I'm sure you'll enjoy it anyway. FWIW (and in case you don't know), the best way to watch is in the order they were released, so S1, S2, Fire Walk With Me (a prequel but should be watched after the show), The Missing Pieces (if you're really getting into it), and then S3. Have fun!
The pure joy that comes through from the two of you makes this such a delight to watch! Thank you for *not* knowing all the answers and for understanding that sometimes the beauty of Lynch is in not knowing and being ok with that.
I got a little emotional at the end, because I wanted Jay and Josh to keep talking about the show, and they were also sad that their wrap up was ending.
"We never have time to experiment" - David Lynch, filming a tea kettle David Bowie
Now hundreds of assholes will correct you that it was a coffee pot or something
@@gloryon5609 That's an awfully hot coffee pot
Seems like there's a fish in the percolator
It's an alchemical tool
@@MisterSynyster Oh! I think I heard my brain make a connection.
'Dougie is the key to all of this, he is the funniest Character we've ever had'
I am now imaging Dougie instead of Jar Jar in Phantom Menace. This will now remain my default memory of what has become in my head a significantly better film.
Don't be surprised if twin peaks was infiltrated by radical leftists.
@@healingchurchpotluck5352 Dougie was confirmed witnessed at an antifa protest
@@RoshDroz I always knew Lynch was one bad hombre!
Qui-Gon give two rides
Yeah, the part when Pete finally got to go fishing got me a little teary eyed. Seemed like Lynch was giving a nice sendoff to an old friend.
My mistake I hadn’t finished the video.
I thought you meant when Frank Truman Skyped doc Hayward and he said he was fishing and cooked it up right there on the lake
@@INT_Based Hey no prob. I also have a fervent love of Twin Peaks, so I understand, haha!
@@INT_Based that was the worst kind of "shove it all in" pandering garbage, though. That scene, and the log lady stuff really just trashed all immersion in the story.
The Pete scene was *exactly* how you do a fanservice callback. Almost makes up for the rest.
@@deano1699 considering how Lynch behaves relative to casting, I'm pretty sure that he wasn't doing it to pander to anyone with the log lady but instead just to have Catherine Coulson be part of it. I'm happy and a little sad for it, since she passed away right after.
I'm happy I could see her in the role one more time after being part of my teens and I'm sure she and Lynch felt the same about working on Twin Peaks together once again.
We're talking about a guy who makes videos everyday just to say hello and tell the time. He doesn't do it because it's popular he does it because he has feels for it.
@@costadinover her last monologue and then her passing is so heartbreaking
We need a Part 3 where Rich Evans sweeps the floor for a full hour.
I think we deserve 60 minutes.
And it would be just as interesting as Twin Peaks.
This whole review makes me want to never watch this show, but makes me want to watch another review of them talking about it
I was expecting the end, once the poster flashed, to be a bunch of Riches strobing across the screen like woodsman outside the gas station.
@@darrenthetuber743 It's worth watching, better to watch the whole lot, in one sitting.
Sheryl Lee's scream is one of the most unsettling sounds in the world.
i mean really, they HAD to end the series with that
She really did an amazing job.
That final scream haunted my thoughts for days and days after
The poor girl must've had a hell of a sore throat after filming Fire Walk With Me. I wonder how many scream takes she had to do.
The scene where Cooper comes back is one of the most satisfying moments from any movie, tv show, etc. I seriously felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders the first time I saw it.
He IS the FBI.
Me: :')
@@kellinwinslow1988 I'd agree, except for "Mrs. Chalfont" being the previous owner of the Palmer house in the alternate Twin Peaks. That was the same name Carl gave to Cooper in FWWM as the owner of the trailer where Agent Desmond found the ring and went missing. I think Laura's scream at the end meant they'd arrived back in the "real" Twin Peaks.
@@kellinwinslow1988 That's true. But I've also wondered if anything really happened after Cooper stared at Diane in Sheriff Truman's office. What do you think the face overlay represented?
@@kellinwinslow1988 It is fascinating stuff. I suspect there are things meant to be interpreted and other things that are just meant to be. A foundation is required in order for there to be something to transcend. My feeling is the line "is it future or is it past?" wasn't just referring to the events of FWWM. Maybe I'm applying an overly positive feeling to it, but I think Coop brought Laura home. I think the latest event we saw was Coop's overlaid expression and his final line "we live inside a dream." He and Diane kissed "only once before" and that was at Glastonbury Grove. We saw it happen.
Just a guess.
The scene where it suddenly cuts to Sarah Palmer -- wailing like a demon and stabbing Laura's picture -- is one of the scariest things I've ever seen.
Chills just thinking about it
@@myboy_ Real Silent Hill siren chills. Nobody screams like Grace.
The choppy editing, the looped noise soundtrack, the screaming, the fading to black... man, it terrified me on such a deeper level than I imagined. Lynch is great at doing that.
It's definitely up there, but I don't think anything will ever freak me out more than Laura Dern's face superimposed over the phantom after she shoots him
@@thepuresh5671 Oh god yeah, Inland Empire has some of the most nightmarish imagery every put on film.
Fun fact: David Lynch had a high-school sweetheart named Judy. And now she's in Twin Peaks being the root of all evil.
for real?
The name Judy, not the actual person
damn what did judy do to david
@@gnalkhere we're not gunna talk about Judy...
'Judy' was originally intended to be Josie Packards sister in the FWWM film.
I love it that the ultimate evils are named Bob and Judy.
Sounds like a quaint 50s sitcom, doesn't it? Bob & Judy.
@@junebunchanumbers With their good friend Mike
It’s a very Lynchian concept, a unholy blend of evil and banality.
@@SolarArmadillo That sums up growing up in the 50s!
"making up their own shows, which might be better than T.V."
".....He's dead."
Gets me every single time.
Lynch is like the master of deadpan delivery. That made me crack up.
So few people ever talk about how funny david lynch can be. He's great at it.
Faces of stone...
@@fastenbulbous Well, Matthew Lillard's is more like pebbles....
@@the25thprime I agree! One of my favorite lines from the original series will always be "you remind me of a small Mexican Chi-wow-wow".
It just comes out of nowhere, has barely any context, and Cooper doesn't even bat an eye at the weird compliment.
Lucy's "cellular phones" revelation wasn't unmotivated; Good Coop called her from the road while Bad Coop was already in the station so she knew BC was an impostor and shot him.
And earlier in the season Sheriff Truman is talking to her on the phone as he walks into the station and she’s so confused she screams and falls back off her chair
Yeah exactly. The whole joke of the scene started with the FWWM deleted scenes. The main joke being she actually doesn't understand cell phones.
Thanks for this, Mickey! I was hoping someone would point this out. :) Her revelation is definitely not unmotivated, and I thought it was a very satisfying payoff to the earlier cell phone moment. (And how cool that it's Lucy's realization that leads to her being the one to shoot Evil Coop at the start of the showdown.) Like so many, she's such a great, endlessly surprising character.
It’s actually insane how there are like two or three jokes in the return that take sixteen or so fucking hours to get their punchline
Harry Dean Stanton peacefully watching the breeze is one of the best moments of things on film.
Him playing that song and him making sure that guy doesn't sell his blood are also great anything with Harry Dean Stanton pretty much is amazing...
9:07 Cooper isn't in the Red Room in this photo. He's in the conference room of in the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Station. I believe this is the scene where he's questioning Dr. Jacoby while he's doing his weird golf ball magic trick.
Wow, great catch
I thought so, too... If he was in the red room, maybe it would convey a meaning. But that looked like the conference room to me.
I’m actually glad you pointed that out
Your observation works for me. Although I do wonder who took the photo of Cooper at that moment and why, and how the FBI ends up with it 25 years later.
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc because its one of the most common images of Cooper we as fans know. Tammy is looking at it like a fan of Kyle would look at a pic of Cooper more than FBI character inside the show. That is why that particular photo was chosen. We as fans know that image and can relate to the character in that moment. Jay has it wrong here. It was not lazy but it was intentional.
David Lynch has accused Quentin Tarantino of ripping him off in the past so I think the Tim Roth and Jennifer Jason Leigh characters were a shot at him.
How?
@@kommissar.murphy because both those actors have appeared in tarantino films, and their death (and characters as a whole) are very tarantino esque, to what is seemingly a satirical level :)
@@rileyjevs Yes but what did Tarantino rip off?
Well, Tarantino's whole schtick as an artist is 'Homage' to older movies / genres that he passionately loves......It's not like he makes any effort to hide it.
- And like all the best artists; even when they're distinctly trying to copy someone else's vision it comes out entirely *their* flavour
@@SoftAsABaboonAss I think true romance or natural born killers
Fun fact: the woodsman evil Coop resurrection scene music is Beethovens moonlight sonata slowed way way down.
Reminds me of the Justin Beiber song Smile slowed way way down that was the platform for the "Slow-Mo" theme from Dredd.
Is that "fun"?
@@lucasoheyze4597 is this "question"?
@@lucasoheyze4597 i suppose its a relative concept but hell yeah i personally had fun watching the return.
They should do a third part with Mike explaining the whole thing only using Star Trek analogies.
I'd love to see him Darmok the heck out of Twin Peaks!
mike "it's like a holodeck episode"
@@mrman5517 "it was a transporter accident"
Judy is like the Borg...
@@hawkenjc Nah, more like Lwaxana Troi.
Something about the frogmoth thing. A long time ago when the first series had aired (1991), a book came out called Welcome to Twin Peaks: An Access Guide to the Town. It's about the history and sights of Twin Peaks, written like a local guide for tourists. I bought it at the time because I was well into TP by then. Anyway, when I watched episode 8, it was really bugging me so I checked the book. On page 14 is an alleged Chinook legend of the woman in the lake covered in flying frogs. The picture that accompanies the tale is more or less identical to the frogmoth that hatches from the egg.
It was "bugging" you :))
@@BreadLover Haha! That didn't even cross my mind. XD
Note to self: Name next black metal band "Frogmoth"
@@banehog how many black metal bands do you already have??
Yes! I revisited that book shortly after the return & was like, WHOA! I'd since forgotten that again. I love when continuing stories give previous installments added depth & context.
I love that shot of Lynch's character just saying "what?!"
Its the perfect reaction to everything he's ever made, and its him doing the reacting lol
Jay: "I don't know what's happening, but I know how it's making me feels...".
I think there is the talent of David Lynch, he seeks to make you feel things, not that you understand them.
Just like life
"I don't know what's happening, but I know how it's making me feel..."
Somewhere in the Return's extras, Lynch is directing a scene (I can't remember which), and he's frustrated because he feels it doesn't "have a mood" He keeps trying things to bring out a mood. I didn't think too much of it at the time, but it's something I keep coming back to. It's like he prioritizes mood over everything else, hence so much abstraction in his art that remains emotionally resonant. And, if I remember right, he was looking for "A mood" not "THE mood". I take that to mean he's letting the scene make the mood for itself, rather than him imposing an intended mood onto it.
''This is the water, and this is the well. Drink full, and descend. The horse is the white of the eyes, and dark within'' - Dirty bearded man
Rich?
Powerful stuff ;)
31.37 Looks like "The horse is the white of the eyes, and dark within'"
This is Earth, and we will feast on these helpless humans. Judy is a white horse sometimes.
Surprised they didn't talk about the literal horse that shows up in the show. Maybe they forgot about it.
19:00 Mark Frost has revealed a little bit more about the Lynch/Sherilyn Fenn feud over The Return:
If you'll notice, not only does none of Audrey's scenes involve the rest of the cast, there is also no mention or reference to the Audrey specific parts of the main story: that she was raped by Mr C, that Richard Horne is her son, and so on. That isn't a coincidence.
In the original script by Lynch and Frost, Audrey was just a hairdresser in town and her big scene would have been what happens to Sylvia Horne in the final show: beaten and abused and robbed by Richard. Sherilyn Fenn, who is basically the biggest Cooper/Audrey shipper in the world, was just offended on every level that her main storyline will be that Cooper raped her and she gets abused and screamed at by her evil bastard son. This is why she went on Twitter and basically said in as many words, she wa quitting the show and it was sexist.
What happened was Lynch took Fenn out to lunch and according to Frost, Lynch and Fenn invented a new storyline themselves and Lynch asked Frost's permission to go off and write it himself, hence why it's so standalone and apart from everything else in the story. In the final product, the storyline where Audrey was raped, has a son, and keeps a picture of Cooper by her bedside, and the storyline where Audrey argues with her husband Charlie over Billy run in parallel lines to each other, never mentioning or crossing over to the other.
That ambiguity is why it could easily be Sherilyn Fenn the actress or any other theory. Even Mark Frost doesn't have a clue; in The Final Dossier, he says she was a hairdresser and now may or may not be in a mental institution or may be somewhere else, who knows?
Thank you.
I didn't know any of this.
What a shame. Lynch’s original idea sounded much better than what we got
Yeah...I can see how a woman can be uncomfortable with all that, I mean ... Lynch has a weird way to treat his female characters.
Hmm so all the meta stuff about those scenes now feel even more meta.
I don't think I'd be comfortable with that either tbh
was waiting for rich to come in and start sweeping at the end.
I need him in full makeup as a woodsman, staring from the corner.
I could listen to people talk about twin peaks for forever.
Me too can't get enough of it
@@JinzoCrash only person who can explain any of it is Lynch people have tried but only lynch knows. 😳 😳 😳
@@andylikesstuffchannel Im not sure that he does though. Nor that he needs to have answers, mb he just had the questions. For me David Lynch is the guy that J.J. Abrams wants to be with his black box thing.
There are a bazillion interpretations of the true meaning of TP , I think its part of the fun.
Also I think they changed many things on the fly as they progressed in the show.
As I'we seen it:
Bob and Mike are supposed to be the demons of the old, especially new testament, posessing and getting of by pain and suffering they cause, but later Bob became some sort of a creation of Judy (I think Judy vomited him to life at ep8).
For sure at the making of the original show there was no idea of the Blue Rose, Cooper was just a holly-jolly and genial FBI detective with holistic approach.
Although Lynch built a remarkable work of art I think that at the and he also has impressions and ideas and not the answers.
@@muthpeterpatrik no one will ever know
For forever.... or forever?
That scene where Ed and Norma finally kiss each other made me cry so fucking much
Please do not curse. I will report you and you will be prosecuted for assault on Congress.
@@marydecouvertes3789 :(
@@joaquinbaume1291 Ha ha sorry just fooling around be cool bro
@@marydecouvertes3789 i was just playing along lol
Am I the only one who wanted his marriage to work out?
Interesting thing about the Audrey storyline that I’ve gathered from fan forums, I’m not sure how true it is but it makes a lot of sense. Supposedly in the original script, Audrey had a much smaller role and was going to be in the scenes taking care of Johnny and would have been the one who was attacked by Richard. Sherilyn Fenn lashed out on Twitter, saying that she felt Lynch was setting her aside (that part definitely happened, I remember that). So Lynch listened to her, put Audrey’s mom where Audrey originally would have been and basically wrote this crazy new storyline on the fly, allowing her to do some incredible chilling work. If that’s the case, I’m so glad it worked out that way.
Very very indirectly you could almost connect that in a meta context to everything with Judy and how they just put "Audrey's" mom in her place. Since all that still happens and to a woman character. Obviously not intentional and it's more complicated than that but just a mental connection I just made.
"It's not real but this place isn't real" - Rem Lezar irl
is David Lynch replacing Rem Lazar?
I feel like if Bob is the evil that men do, Judy is the brokenness people have endured. It's a statement on how trauma can corrupt, which is why I feel sarah palmer is Judy. This experience has become so scarring, she has the capacity for a far greater evil than she should have had she not been exposed to Bob. When sarah palmer opens her face, we see darkness, with the occasional lightning strike to represent the fast fading goodness within her, which had been almost entirely erased with this crushing black. Laura's is pure and white, showing how death gave her the gift of innocence which her life style inevitably would have prevented
I like your theory. Expanding on what Sarah represents, it’s interesting to theorise that she embodies an apathy that allows evil to flourish; when in the absence of a saviour, contempt and misery are willing accomplices to pure evils drive. Like, it’s suggested in FWWM that Sarah is a regular witness to Leland’s moments of inducing fear into his daughter. Did she perhaps know, deep down, that Leland was raping their daughter and all Sarah can do is grow evermore anxious whilst simultaneously never confront the evil that’s in their house.
By Return, she epitomises apathy!
This is pretty much what I took away from it as well. I always saw Judy as "emptiness" or "corruption" not the classic "evil of man" that Bob is.
@LeftRight True, not apathy but rather not speaking up for morality and justice where you acknowledge its absence. Due partly to cowardice, for sure. In typical Lynch style, the Palmer household is almost a reflection of the 50’s patriarchal family unit; ‘swell’ on the surface, but filled with nightmarish perversions and deep psychological problems
Interesting take! I like this
@@we3bus Speaking of 'looking away' I heard/read a wonderful idea that "The Horse is the white of the eye" could refer to Sarah, 'looking away' (and thus showing the white of her eye rather than the coloured section in the centre) from Leyland's actions. And of course it's Sarah who keeps seeing a white horse.
Feels like I waited 25 years for Part 2
It took 12 years to make.
Is it future or is it past?
@@buster326 Neither.
What year is this ?
@@CooperDianeBob All the years.
david bowie, age 69, turned himself into a kettle after the incident. he is currently serving tea.
The Man who Served the World
Man, week after week when it aired I was holding out hope that David Bowie had filmed something before he died. I'm fine with Teapot Jefferies but could you imagine how awesome it would be to get a Blackstar era David Bowie in a Lynch project?
Nice.
Funniest shit I've ever seen
@@devonpixley this joke is so dense, every single line has so many references
It's the 5th anniversary of David Bowies death tomorrow.
Still upset David Bowie didn't live to see the role.
I'm sure he would've given it a shot given better health, and had a hell of a time while doing it too.
He would have laughed at his character becoming a teapot.
This and blade runner 2049
Those gosh darn cigarettes...
I don't know if he would have come back or not. There was an article that said Lynch had to get his permission to use some unseen/alternate takes from FWWM and Bowie only signed off on it on the condition that Lynch not use any audio because he was so upset at how badly the southern accent has been mocked through the years.
@@lavoielactee7179 i once read that Bowie himself had disliked the accent he used and then asked for a more authentic southern actor. Could be some of the both reasons tho.
I took Audrey's storyline to be the culmination of one of the Return's central themes that you can't go back, no matter how strong your nostalgia is. Audrey will never really dance like that again, the past is gone and the only thing ruminating on nostalgia really does is trap you.
The special effects felt very intentional to me. They reminded me of Lynch's artwork and animations, very hands on. Either way, as far as cheap effects go his are unique and pretty consistent. Never boring at least. I forgot how effective the woodsman stuff was.
It's about family, and that's what's so powerful about it.
It took 12 years to make.
"Son of a B!TCH and his *"Subverted Expectations"..."*
It is like poetry, it rhymes.
It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on.
You think RLM reads the billions of copypasted quotes theyve produced and just sigh?
i actually really like the “cheap” DIY affects in the return . high budge CGI so often feels soulless and uncanny especially in the recent years. I feel like simpler special affects are a lot easier for the imagination to explore and relate to as you’re watching them. the special affects in the return were so immersive !!
what does "cheap" mean anyway
About Sarah Palmer and the desert bug:
My interpretation is that Sarah was indeed evil from season 1. We see glimpses that show us that Sarah knew what Leland and Bob were doing to Laura. The guilt and grief eats her up until we reach the return where she is just a shell of hatred, guilt and sorrow.
Borrowing from Twin Perfect that explanation about the woodsman broadcast it makes perfect sense about purposefully turning your eyes away from seeing what is happening in your house because you want to maintain the notion of a perfect white picket fence with the model husband and daughter
Vivian James trying to turn the perfectly good tv show into shallow words is not a good look for anyone tbh
Sorry to revive this old post, but you're absolutely right. Sarah also demonstrates some supernatural powers early on in season one with her premonitions, an indication she might have some latent abilities, which we learn later is probably a product of Judy. She's quick to put the responsibility of dealing with Leland off on others, never acknowledging what she knows. She "looks away," while immersing herself in violent, junk food television (while eating actual junk food), so even without the frog thing, we know she has some supernatural aspect and loves to immerse herself in twisted violence. Sarah is definitely not a "good person," though we see she was prior to the frog thing in the Return.
@@thelongestchannelnameevernope.
"Chief Wiggum. Don't eat the clues."
@@ericturczynowsky3243 .....ill drive.
"Better... LOOK... Burns'... suit!"
The convenience store was set up way back in the show's unaired closed pilot ending. Then shown for the first time in fire walk with me deleted scenes.
How was it referenced in the unaired pilot ending?
So he refrences something no one's seen. That's really really stupid
@@NYGAllDay those deleted bits from the pilot were also included later on in the first season in cooper's dream. "We lived among the people, I think you say convenience store, we lived above it. I mean it like it is, like it sounds." -Mike
@@darrenthetuber743 The unaired pilot bits are included in the twin peaks dvd collections. It's just as valid as the missing pieces footage from fire walk with me, considering the pilot material at least was shown later on in the first season in some form.
It was also the ending of the 'TV movie' edit released stand alone on VHS. Before the DVDs came out that was the only version available to me so whenever I would show the pilot to friends I would pause and explain how the ending is non canon (except for Red Room parts that are at the end of episode 2). I've heard Mike mention the convenience store and then say the poem so many times it feels like it's canon and with S3 it finally basically is after all.
Jay hit the nail on the head for me when I first watched that final episode, as they're driving...I got more resolution than I expected I would've in the previous episode, and now I'm totally lost, this whole new thing is happening, and I realize there are just a few minutes left in this wild Twin Peaks adventure, I was sad and baffled and anxious. Well played, Lynch.
Lynch is a surrealist. Those weird special effects are done with a purpose. Not because he doesn't care about special effects.
yeah, I felt very angry when they completely missed the point on the why the effects look like that, they aren't "expensive" maybe, but every visual means something.
I love/hate those special effects. So unique and terrifying. Like reality is falling apart but with the "simplicity" of something that you could understand.
the surrealist stuff I am okay with, but some of the gore and that one time the dude with the shotgun (killer couple duo) shot a phone and I could tell it was some gunshot.png they got online or something. kind of felt like they were trying to be conservative with money (which I am fine with if that's the case).
the special effects honestly remind me of the strange way reality warps in a psychedelic trip or in a dream, like things move in a super smooth unnerving way and reality seems a whole lot more platonic and "cut-board" like the monty python sketch shown, like it's a bunch of abstractions and not so much something with extreme fidelity.
There are special effects made to convey realism, and there are special effects designed to convey mood or concept. Lynch seems to enjoy doing the latter more than the former.
Diane seeing Mr. C in prison is one of the most chilling scenes ever. "Who Are You?"
"yrev very good to see you"
I don't think anyone thinks Matthew Lillard is annoying in Scream I only ever see praise for his performance in that
I think of him as the guy from Hackers and Stevo from SLC Punk
I love him in Scream, the big drooling mess! *spoilers* That line “my parents are gonna be so mad me” that he shrieks as he’s bleeding to death is a great moment of comic tragedy.
Or Chip from Serial Mom.
Totally, I think his performance in Scream is underrated, especially how it turns in the last act. I definitely wasn't expecting Lillard to be one of the killers the first time I saw it, and the whole last part where they stab each other to try to cover their tracks is chilling. That scene always reminded me of the home movies that the Columbine killers made leading up to the school shooting (yes, I know Scream came first, but still) with them hanging out with friends like normal kids, but then when it is just the two of them they talk gleefully about planning the massacre. Anyways, I was super excited seeing Lillard in episode 1 of The Return because I've always felt he wasn't given many chances to do good work after he was typecast as a screwball comic actor after his work in the late 90s and early 00s, and he's definitely one of the highlights of the season.
I find him quite annoying in Scream
Audrey's husband is the most relatable character in the show
Arguably the only(?)
Him and Bobby
@@Bale4Bond oh yeah loved Bobby in this
@@patrickhamos2987 Why are you watching a video about something you so clearly despise? Go enjoy something, and let us enjoy this, too.
@@press_x_tojason watching something you despise is one of the core values of RLM
Episode 8 is one of the most riveting, surreal experiences I have EVERh had watching a tv show. This is my most favorite episode of THE RETURN.
My take is that "Black fire/Electricity" is all basically ideas and creativity and the Atomic bomb is the absolute peak of destructive creativity. Fire warms you, but also hurts. It's a natural force that you can use for your own good, but you can never really control, just like ideas. You don't decide about creative ideas, they just happen like bolts of lightning creating fire. Wires don't just carry electricity, but also ideas from place to place and even television (especially digital) is just the sharing of ideas through electricity. On the other side of the spectrum is Natural fire/Film/light. I rarely see people discussing the meaning of "energy" in Twin Peaks, which has multiple forms (Light, Dark, Fire, Electricity, Fossil fuels or sugar and coffee but also happyness and sadness) and how everyone seems to be motivated by created more of these enegies.
But say what you will, Twin Peaks is one of the rare series that really make you think about your own interpretation of it all. It's true art in that way. You can't talk about it without expressing yourself in a way. Like art.
It was kind of implied that Sarah Palmer killed (like the lioness, and possibly ate) the delivery boy that brought her shopping, and that that is what Hawk heard in her house when he called with her, and why she looked so shifty when he asked her if someone was back there. There was something seriously not right with her. I had also thought that some of her scenes may have actually been from the alternate reality we see in the last episode, which is why she hates Laura so much.
I was thinking that Audrey is in a coma this whole time and after her dance, she suddenly became aware of her situation.
I like how the little graph that shows the play results in the time bar is pretty much straight across, in this review and the 1st part too. Goes to show that anyone who doesn't care for Lynch's stuff checks out immediately, but the people who are into his stuff usually watch these 2 videos all the way through.
... neat
I think as the years go on we will see The Return as an absolute miracle of TV and film.
I think people are seeing it that way right now 🙂
@@Reb3nga I hope so. It still feels like such an underappreciated show though.
@@adamgreen1484 Agree. I've just finished it for the second time and enjoyed it even more now. Think a yearly re-run will become a tradition here 😄
I hope too that it’ll go down in time as a revolutionary piece of art.
its problem is that the plot is way too convoluted and messy... it could have been executed better, and then the incredible potential in there could have shone through better... it will always stand out as too disjunct and almost frustrating at times, because of this. However Lynch is still a genius and there's moments of true miracle in there for sure.
About 15-20 years ago, I had a chat with Mark Frost who told me that they (him and Lynch) had planned for Audrey to sacrifice her life to save Agent Cooper from the Black Lodge in the third season on ABC, before it was cancelled.
Making some coffee. Thank goodness for everyone in RLM, but taking a moment for Jay and Josh: their friendship, love for “unusual” films and shows, and their particular and natural way of discussing are just wonderful. Happy New Year, all!
Ending this with Rich shuffling around as the woodsmen would have been perfect
So great to revisit this! I’m fairly confident the use of bad special effects is just one of David Lynch’s metafiction techniques that remind you you’re watching tv and makes Lynch’s hand visible. The obsession with electricity and curtains, hammy acting, self referencing are in some ways to do with this too. The shifting between terrible effects and stunningly beautiful ones felt very deliberate and careful to me...
Ofcourse, it is a choice that Lynch made on purpose. It looks like that because he wants it to look like that 😄
I love this series. One thing I thought hasn't been addressed much is that the Cooper at the very end of the show is no longer the joyful, optimistic Cooper that came out of the coma and was present all during the original run of Twin Peaks. Instead this Cooper feels like an amalgamation of Bob and Cooper; he seems grumpy, even mean sometimes, but still wants to help people and solve cases.
He’s become a jaded mess. But I mean 25 years of straight mental fuckery might do that to a man.
~thematic elements~
@@BradsGonnaPlay But when he first came out of the Dougie trance he seemed as chipper as ever. It was only after his last visit that he became a grump.
Cooper was never just all coffee and cherry pies in the original show, he got serious when he needed to. I think his lack of chipperness in the finale is just a reflection of the gravity of the situation
I love how Josh's last line is "Are we sure?", I really think it encapsulates all that The Retun meant to me and to us as Lynch and Twin Peaks fans.
Every time I see that clip of Gordon saying he's dead to Matthew Lillard's exploded head it makes me laugh so hard...
My whole read on The Return is that it was a critique of Twin Peaks fandom, and how much Lynch hated that it became so wrapped up in donuts and apple pie, when in reality it was a brutal story about a girl who has been abused, raped, and murdered. It really was more of a sequel to Firewalk With Me than it was the original series.
It was definitely much closer in tone to FWWM than the original series, yeah.
This is sort of close to one of the more thought-provoking interpretations that I've heard -- that FWWM is the only time we see "real life" in the series. That Seasons 1, 2 and 3 are all part of Laura's dream to escape the reality of her abuse -- and that she might not even be dead in the first place.
According to this interpretation The Return is so dark because her "dream world" is breaking down after a long period of denial and delusion.
@@sethbromley7186 that’s great. Love it. Lynch is my favorite filmmaker and FWWM is my favorite of his films. It’s so damn dark. Love it. And I love that The
Return is really a sequel to that.
@@sethbromley7186 that makes sense. I remember people saying that her screaming at the end is her waking up as you hear her mother's voice calling her
I don't think Lynch minds that. He loves the humor and beauty and cherry pies and donuts as much as anyone, and he even put a lot of that in season 3. Twin Peaks to Lynch isn't just about horror and tragedy. It has tons of goofy fun in it too, especially season 3.
Laura Palmer's scream at the end of "The Return" STILL makes the little hairs in the back of my neck go up.
Awesome video once again. If you read the Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier book by Mark Frost, you get an unique perspective of Joudy. In this chapter they mention that Judy is a Sumerian entity that feasted on human flesh and thrived on human suffering. This is why I do believe that Sara Palmer is "possessed?" by Judy because at the grocery store she keeps on saying I'm not myself and at the bar, she tells the guy she will eat him and in fact does. The chapter in the book also describes the male version of evil named Ba'al which later in history became known as Beezlebub (or should we call him Bob for short?). The book describes if a male and female ( which I believe is Evil Coop (BOB) and Sara Palmer (Judy) ) ever got together it would basically mean the end of the world. Or better yet, the end of the world of dreams? Based on this, I believe the this is the whole point of why Evil Coop is looking for Judy. Not to destroy her, but join her. In Episode 17, The Fireman is also aware of this plan and intervenes by intersecting the coordinates ( Sara Palmers House ) and tricks Evil Coop to the Twin Peaks Sherriff's Station instead. What do you guys think about my interpretation based on what I read in Mark Frost's awesome book?
I read the books too, and this sounds reasonable.
Yeah this is totally right. Judy was what first appeared in the big glass box and stabbed and killed the most awkward sex scene ever. (ThAnKs TrAcY) Later when Sarah Palmer opens her face at the bar you see darkness and a little sharp object coming in and out quickly - just like Judy. Judy then went to possess Sarah because she is an easy target (Laura and Leland "relationship" and death) and waits for Bob.
Sumarian gods and a male and female getting together to end the world. I love this plan! I'm excited to be a part of it! Let's do it!
This comment is very eye opening, thanks for that!
The editing in this re:View episode was fantastic, props to Jay. Loved the quiet lead up to the end with the show's main theme.
I hope if there's a S4, the entire thing is about Josie in the door knob.
That scene genuinely horrified me
@@JinzoCrash Yes! Just a full season of that. Just the Horne's being confused would be fine. Maybe have episode 8 go absolutely mental with exposition and special effects, and then just cut back to another 8 episodes of confused Hornes.
@@JinzoCrash This is all solid stuff, write it down - however, we need a link to electricity otherwise it just won't fly. Unless Josie is now trapped in an organic dimension because of the connection with wood, and that's separate from the electronically connected world of the two lodges.
My God... We've got at least 6 seasons ahead of us.
@@JinzoCrash do you have a link to a clip of the lodge sounds. i really can't remember
In one of the books there was something about that place being built on a Native American burial ground and the wood is full of spirits or something like that. So she’s just part of the hotel now. I think even at one point in season 1 Pete says he thought he saw a face when walking through.
That random neighbor with the gun who initiates the shootout is the same guy from the FBI case that Gordon Cole is discussing in the board room meeting early on in the season.
I did not know this.
How. The fuck. Have I. NEVER. Noticed. This?
I've watched this show like, 5 times!
@@luiginastro8831 Lynch likes long payoffs haha
Was this the case where Cole calls it "The Congressman's Dilemma?"
@@MrCecil Yeah, I believe the Polish neighbor was an accountant. IIRC the gun on the desk matched the one he used to shoot Chantel, and the jar of beans I think was a reference to how accountants are also known as "bean counters'. There were some other connections but I can't rememeber what they were now, its been a while.
Can confirm they played Part 8 in theaters. Daniel Knox hosted a presentation of Fire Walk With Me at the Music Box in Chicago, late into the summer of '17. He followed it up with a special surprise presentation of the episode right after. It was LOUD and GLORIOUS.
I'm so incredibly jealous
The visual effects work because they are usually accompanied by ear bursting sound effects. The sound work in this series is absolutely amazing.
I will always regret that when they made the Brady Bunch movie that they didn't have David Lynch direct.
He was offered Fast Times at Ridgemont High
@@buh2001j and return of the Jedi
The atomic bomb is more than just an inflection point of horror and violence. Deleuze wrote (in movement image and time image, his two big works on cinema) about how, in splitting the atom, man changed space and therefore changed time as a linear entity. It’s the creation of Bob not just because it’s a moment of great evil, but because it’s when things stopped making sense.
Never thought I'd see a Deleuze comment in an RLM video
37:17 for clarification, the egg that the frog thing came out of was one of several eggs you can see the “judy” monster barfing out in space. I dont think the implication is that the frog monster is Laura.
Of course not. Don't know what Josh was thinking
As far as I can tell, Dido created Laura to combat the frog thing, which is why the two events happen so close together. Jay missed the boat on that one.
@@12ealDealOfficial Not to combat the frog thing specifically, i don't think. But Jay realizes that the golden orb was created to combat the evil that was introduced from Judy. Hes just saying he doesn't think the orb is literally Laura Palmer, but rather the spirit of good which Laura symbolizes. I don't necessarily agree but it's an interesting take
Lynch delivered a love letter to his cast, characters, crew and fans.
It was sweet and chilling and indulgent and fun and I loved every minute of the ride.
Straight from his heart! You know what a love letter is f*ker?!
@@petemartell677You get a love letter from me and you’re fucked forever!
Laura’s final scream is totally the collective frustration and bewilderment of an audience.
Or the biggest culminative "fuck you" by David Lynch to the parts of the audience that weren't satisfied enough.
The most important part of that scene, of course: Sheryl Lee's still got the pipes.
Hell YES she does!
God this was all so good. People don't dare push the boundaries like this anymore. Great imaginative TV.
No not very often, that is why we have to appreciate writers like David Lynch, like Forrest's box o' chocolates, "you never know what you're going to get." And if I may be so bold as to extend the analogy, "but you always walk away satisfied."
Wow is Josh way off about the frogmoth! It comes from one of Judy's eggs that she vomits up and it makes the most sense that since the Woodsman put everyone to sleep so the frog can crawl inside, it's most likely pretty damn evil and not the golden beautiful light of Laura. It looks identical to one of those eggs. Laura came from a glowing orb.
For real! Same with his take that the entity in Sarah isn't necessarily evil because both Laura and Sarah can take their faces off. Like, what? Behind Laura's face is a beautiful light and behind Sarah's is one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen lol
@@Bozogumps Yeah! I know Lynch's work is interpretive, but if you pay attention to the tone and some of the small details, you can make these connections pretty concretely...
Also, she just had her first kiss before, and was probably daydreaming about her future life just before she fell asleep. This is why the creature chose her, because her innocence was gone, so she could hatch for a long period of time, insidiously eating Sarah up from the inside, making her blind to all the abuse and destroying her idea of a perfect marriage aka the American dream.
@@mathieulangevin5615 That's a fantastic analysis!
@@jordancooperlalala hey thanks man! You actually inspired me to follow with my thoughts, so kudos to you too!
I'm so glad you guys made this. There's a lot of good writing on The Return, but disappointingly few good video analyses - a lot of it is theorising about what connects where (and obviously that has its place - hell it's present and appropriate here as well) but it ought be subservient to theme and tone, and a lot of fans, in their enthusiasm for the mystery, can forget that - which is understandable, but diminishes the value of their critique. Josh and Jay can always be counted on to do quality discussions of the stuff they like. I'm gonna be returning to these two videos almost as often as I'll be returning to The Return. Thank you so very dearly.
If you like theme and tone, definitely watch the Lost in the Movies videos (if you haven't already). He's still making his main S3 material, but it should be coming soon. But there's a 25+ part series for the first two seasons and FWWM, which are essential viewing IMO. So plenty to be going on with.
I loved 'The Return' so much when I watched it as it was initially airing. To me it was like David Lynch invited everyone along on a film festival of everything he loves about cinema. I was grinning ear to ear with enjoyment all throughout it. That love and appreciation has only grown with time.
Ever had a nightmare that shook you to your core? Where you’ve woke up and still felt that indescribable dread? That’s how that final scene feel to me. Lynch encapsulated the feeling of pure, uneasy, fear. Ugh. Brilliant.
I fell that this type of ultimate dread, is actually what every one of us are going to feel, at the moment of Death..Lynch is preparing us, somehow, for this inevitable trauma. He is brave for doing so, as most viewers simply do not want to think about their mortality!
The last part of Twin Peaks in my opinion is a play on the idea that in the battle of good and evil, people don't necessarily want good to win, but to be winning. The biggest clue towards this is the scene with the tea kettle where he shows the number 8, which can also be interpreted as the infinity symbol. The 8 in tarot specifically recalls the Justice card (traditionally, not Rider-Waite) which can be symbolic of the whole good versus evil conflict of the show. But the infinity symbol is the idea that there is no end to this conflict - and Phillip Jeffries is almost taunting Cooper with the 8 when he shows it.
So Cooper basically resets the conflict after good wins in episode 17 to win again because both he and the audience craves such a conflict, where good will eventually triumph over evil. The fact that some people were disappointed by the actual climax shows this odd facet of human nature. Although, it's fair to feel this way - why would Mr. Jackpots stop at the first jackpot, if he can win more?
Definitely my favorite “film” of the decade. Nothing else I’ve seen came close.
Absolutely it's amazing
Sure you can put it in inverted commas but homie it ain't no film. It's superb, but come on.
@@alwindsor7299 well, assuming you watched the video we’re both commenting on, you’ll understand why I phrased that the way I did
Holy crap, I just rewatched your video about you talking to your 20 year younger self earlier. What a crazy coincidence to suddenly find you here
@@ContentWithJeremiah I'm with ya bud. It's my favorite "film" of the past decade as well. Absolutely. The next "film" for me would be Too Old to Die Young.
Ok, but if the "pocket dimension" is where they trap Judy, and when they cross over into the other world they're crossing over into our world, then that means that yes, the world of Twin Peaks is now safe. But now, Judy, that unimaginable elemental evil, is in OUR world.
Nobody traps Judy anywhere. Judy traps them in her world. At least that's how I see it.
Maybe judy was always from our dimension
It is in our house now.
I think it's summed up in Jeffries's line: "We live inside a dream." Dreams have patterns and basis in reality, but ultimately they are a mystery that can't, maybe shouldn't be explained.
This is my favorite episode of re:view and probably the greatest thing redlettermedia has ever done. There’s nothing out in all of the internet, books, documentaries that even come close to the immense respect and affection jay and josh show in this almost two hour discussion about one of the most mysterious entities that has ever been created by the human mind. I just have to say thanks you guys.
@@JinzoCrash the previous re:view they did mentioned that video and I agree with them that it completely ruins the mystery and all of the interest in the show. I got half an hour in and paused because there are no “conclusive” answers. All David Lynch would say to twin perfect’s video is “no.”.
The woman who answered the door at the Palmer house is the actual real-life owner of that house. Her name is Mary Reber. This supports the living inside a dream (or TV) lines from Cooper and Jeffries. They actually traveled to the real house outside of the TV world. Judy knew they were coming so she flipped the switch to reality.
Also, the older version of Laura Palmer in the last episode is White Lodge-manufactured. That's why they show Laura's face in the golden orb before they send it off.
A wonderful opportunity of Rich Evans screaming as he closes in was missed here gentlemen.
I just watched Briggs disappear into the Woods in season 2, and now the dark part of season 2 lies ahead. This is a welcome distraction boys, thank you.
God, those episodes surely are pretty terrible, aren't they?
What, you don't like James' adventures in a soap opera?
Twin Peaks is, by far my favorite piece of artistic expression ever created!
Prime-time Soap Operas are definitely back. That's what "This is Us" is.
Yuck
It is happening again.
lol you beat me to it
GS Esquire I don't think there will be a next season. Actors aren't getting younger and some of them have passed away.
@@gsesquire3441 Interesting :) But the main thing that leads me to believe that the last season will not be released, is that there seems to be zero noticeable activity as to filming it. Lynch is currently more interested in talking about weather on his YT channel, rather than actually making movies. I'd love to be proven wrong, though
I just love seeing how the FBI Special Agent is actually Stan from "Mad Men". This cast is so stacked and it never fails to impress me.
"...The horse is the white of the eyes, and dark within..."
They call it a "mantra", but to me it seems like a "dharani."
@@fatsamurai007 damn good observation, sir!!!
The horse is the one behind the curtain, possibly one of the most evil characters in the show. Dark within for sure. And those whites of the eyes following Cooper and Laura in the car in the final episode is a big hint (one of the reasons for that long driving scene, I think.)
Big Ed and Norma was worth it all. I loved how they ended up.
A little something I noticed. When (possibly) young Sarah Palmer is walking with her friend (Miguel from Cobra Kai!) they find a penny. Abe Lincoln is on the penny. The first Woodsman we see soon after is the actor who looks a lot like Lincoln (and has played him in other things).
20:45 I get the feeling Lynch really dislikes the whole "Netflix and chill" thing. He makes stuff for people to watch, not bang to.
I mean, what creator would make a show without the intention of having people actually watch it?
@@Jordan3DS Brett Ratner.
@@Jordan3DS Adam Sandler’s production company only puts stuff like that out.
When Sarah Palmer opens her face in the bar scene, we see a hand with a prominent dead spirit finger. I feel like she is a character embodiment of true hopelessness, stuck in a loop in that house of her own personal hell. This would make her ripe for garmonbozia farming. "Bob evil" has a manic chaos feel. Maybe "Judy evil" is this type of suffering when all hope is truly lost, the type of evil Hawk won't even talk about.
I enjoyed these 2 Re:View episodes so much. Thank you guys for bringing me back to the world of Twin Peaks for a bit, and getting to hear you two talk about all the wildness of the show was fantastic! I just finished The Return over the summer, so these videoe came at a perfect time for me. There is so much darkness that truly was unsettling to see at moments and just made me sick to think about. But at the same time, so much goodness that made my heart melt and bring a huge smile across my face.
Now, I need to take the time to rewatch the season because as you guys said, it is a lot to take in upon first viewing. A lot of the events that took place will probably make a lot more sense to me, and there will be a lot more to appreciate I'm sure.
It definitely feels like Sarah Palmer is posessed by Judy. Maybe Sarah was so depressed after all the tragedies in her life that Judy took over her body relishing in all the negative energy Sarah's feeling provided. That's probably why you see her destroying her body (heavy drinking) and watching excessive violence on TV, to further feed the negative energy. And her face reveal before the feeding (biting the dude) in the bar - it really looks like Judy is inside Sarah Palmer.
9:20 you guys are right, it's a frame grab for sure - but it's actually not from the red room, it's Cooper in the conference room at the Sheriff's station in TP in S01 when he's talking to Jacoby.
While I liked S3 on my first watch as a long time fan, revisiting it recently-and watching vids like this one along with first part- has clearly confirmed to me it’s truly a masterwork. It’s an amazing achievement
I am in my mid forties. I've never seen any of the Twin Peaks series, or films.
Think it is now about time I also binged something for the first time too.
I'd use Duck Duck Go myself
Enjoy! It's kind of a shame you've seen this and thus that you have had a fair few spoilers, but I'm sure you'll enjoy it anyway. FWIW (and in case you don't know), the best way to watch is in the order they were released, so S1, S2, Fire Walk With Me (a prequel but should be watched after the show), The Missing Pieces (if you're really getting into it), and then S3. Have fun!
@@bigtallpap That's actually a great help. Thank you. As for spoilers . . . I haven't a clue what was going on in this discussion. ha ha ha
Stay strong in the middle of season 2.
Did you do it?!
The Cooper "I am the FBI" clip gets me EVERY TIME
The pure joy that comes through from the two of you makes this such a delight to watch! Thank you for *not* knowing all the answers and for understanding that sometimes the beauty of Lynch is in not knowing and being ok with that.
THIS NEEDS A PART 3 THERE IS STILL SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT
"I am the FBI." Who knew an episode of Re:View could make me ugly cry?
I got a little emotional at the end, because I wanted Jay and Josh to keep talking about the show, and they were also sad that their wrap up was ending.
This made me start re-watching Twin Peaks all over again.
same!
@@dirtyhousekeeping well genius, if you don't realize this is part 2 😂 you really proved me wrong huh?
@@dirtyhousekeeping guessing you're not really a fan.