300 VS 300 | TBI VS TPI

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
  • Today we give you an update on our TBI 2024 300 XC-W 300 and compare it against a TPI 300 XC equivalent.
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Komentáře • 39

  • @Berm_Blaster
    @Berm_Blaster Před 10 měsíci +1

    Crazy how 2 stroke technology has evolved. Probably safe to say most of us thought two strokes were fead when the four strokes took over. Cool to see two strokes still being desired and liged.

  • @ericgray8396
    @ericgray8396 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks for your thoughts on TDI vs TPI. It would be interesting to see a test between a 300 TBI and current generation of 350.

  • @donaldblank8873
    @donaldblank8873 Před 10 měsíci +8

    The TPI bike Is much better than A TBI, They have more horsepower better fuel economy, And a better fuel tank pick up. The power valve is adjusted too far out on that TPI. For some reason nobody will give an honest opinion.

    • @Unkownktm
      @Unkownktm Před 2 měsíci

      Don’t agree, I’ve had both and TBI this is overall better, much smoother and as for torque, not sure where you get your info from. Fuel economy is better on the TBI. On hill climbs TBI is a beast. Play with your sprocket size and minor changes on mapping. Suspension stock is next level, can’t compare with the TPI stock.

    • @donaldblank8873
      @donaldblank8873 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Unkownktm Nope, I Ride against 2 2024 huskvarna 300s weekly. My TPI250 with a high compression head Cooper ECU and simple modes has more power. Is and far better fuel range. I go 65 miles in the mountains before my fuel light comes on. I can still go further. The TBIS do not compare.. They run out of fuel because of the fuel pump location. And I get my information from first-hand riding weekly. Hard enduro in the mountains with a group of people.

  • @spencerclark2269
    @spencerclark2269 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Pretty cool comparison, I'd pick the TBI all day

  • @richmondmaids
    @richmondmaids Před 10 měsíci +4

    I have zero issues with my tpi and it runs with out any issues. 2023 Gasgas ec250 that I had tuned by John @ Tpituning and it made it run better than I couldve asked for. Made adjustments to the tune to make it function so well by fixing issues I didnt know existed or things I could not even put into words. All of that for $250 too.
    I have a 2023 ktm 125xc that is TBI and it doesnt really run differently enough that I feel the need to sell my tpi to buy a tbi
    Just seems like its for the guys who buy the new Apple iphone every year🤷‍♂

    • @Hyngyynj
      @Hyngyynj Před 10 měsíci

      John’s tunes are amazing

    • @donaldblank8873
      @donaldblank8873 Před 10 měsíci

      My 23 gas gas EC250 rips. No ECU needed. Only added a high compression s3 head, I'm very happy with this bike. My opinion KT m's best bike was 2022. Now they're going backwards.

  • @codygrams
    @codygrams Před 10 měsíci +8

    I wouldn’t call that “tight” single track. 3rd-5th gear it looked like to me.

    • @usualsuspectsfor1k
      @usualsuspectsfor1k Před 10 měsíci +5

      That's tight for west coast, but east coast that's basically wide open.

    • @codygrams
      @codygrams Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@usualsuspectsfor1k I’m on the west coast. Big difference between California and PNW though.

    • @slidewide1999
      @slidewide1999 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@usualsuspectsfor1k”west coast“ can encompass a lot. I’d consider this open single track, and I’m from the west.

  • @outfitr9703
    @outfitr9703 Před 10 měsíci

    I ride an 18 300xcw with rktek, rekluse, billetron, throttle tamer, it's so so good. It will rip or lug with power all day. Brother rides a 21 tpi, he loves it zero probs.

  • @Superdisco199
    @Superdisco199 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Found the 300xcw a but dissapointing motor wise, needs work as much as the TPi's did. The XC's seem to have more go between 4000-5000pm. The frame does feel overly stiff to me in comparison. The 2025 is likely to be modified like Billy Bolts. Having ridden a bit of all of them i'd prob pickup a runout 250Tpi with the flexy frame and throw a TBI relocation at it.

  • @3BrothersExtreme
    @3BrothersExtreme Před 10 měsíci

    Great comparison!
    Both bikes are awesome!

  • @MotoNish
    @MotoNish Před 10 měsíci

    Great video! I have 2022 EC300 and love it but just picked a a new Hard Enduro KTM and just riding it under an hour the difference is amazing. How do you guys like the Cardo headsets off-road? I assume Edge or Packtalk?

  • @fattie2550
    @fattie2550 Před 10 měsíci +1

    YZ250FX is perfect for those trails.

  • @panic-revv85
    @panic-revv85 Před 10 měsíci

    What do you think of motoxperts suspension in comparison to others? They are locals here, actually only live a few blocks away.

  • @matbailey53
    @matbailey53 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What are you guys using to talk back and forth? Thx 🙏🏻

    • @dirtbiketv1
      @dirtbiketv1  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Cardo Systems. In helmet communication. It’s great and we have a discount code in our links or email us for further questions.

  • @bradley7723
    @bradley7723 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Interesting bikes, but I'll stick with my tried and true yz250x, does everything I need, no excessive electronics and fuel maps to fail, and never had to push it back to the truck.

    • @nightrider4370
      @nightrider4370 Před 10 měsíci

      Never pushed mine back in over 12 years on KTM. Say whatever you need to say to put down these amazing bikes so you can feel better. Not cool.

    • @bradley7723
      @bradley7723 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@nightrider4370 I never put them down. KTM has some awesome bikes, in 1981 I had and desert raced a KTM495. Just because I prefer my yz250x now and it works best for me does not mean I'm saying the rest suck, that would be ignorant.
      I'm old school and don't need extra electronics to deal with, on the same note their are riders who multi-task their bikes and like fuel map choice, nothing wrong with that, personally I don't need that so that is why I have what I have. My choice is based on my riding style period.🙂

    • @fattie2550
      @fattie2550 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I love my 2023 YZ250FX

    • @bradley7723
      @bradley7723 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@fattie2550 sweet bike, whether it's an x or fx you got to love that wide ratio trans. Be safe and have a blast on your bike.

    • @fattie2550
      @fattie2550 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@bradley7723 Heck yeah. Just rode 46 miles of single track today in Idaho. I’m hella tired now. Lol

  • @westcoastfrisco
    @westcoastfrisco Před 10 měsíci

    Get on a XC/TX TBI. Motors are dialed on those

  • @chadbryan7815
    @chadbryan7815 Před 10 měsíci

    What coms do you use?

  • @chief8269
    @chief8269 Před 9 měsíci

    TBI’s are blowing up left and right.

    • @qdogbenson3112
      @qdogbenson3112 Před 9 měsíci

      Please elaborate

    • @chief8269
      @chief8269 Před 9 měsíci

      A quick google search and it’s everywhere. I have a good friend that’s 23 TBI husky died in mid air on a big double. Scared the hell out of him. They’re amazing but are plagued with issues. KTM should have released a recall by now.

  • @robsonenduro3316
    @robsonenduro3316 Před 10 měsíci +2

    there should not be TPI in first place...

    • @onthethrottle7104
      @onthethrottle7104 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Totally disagree, have them, work on bikes, have seen lots of great things with TPI...not doubt TBI is great too.

  • @brettfrimmer6567
    @brettfrimmer6567 Před 3 měsíci

    Beautiful trails I’d love to ride that. But if that’s right you guys would hate the northeast 😂

  • @michaelwalas5948
    @michaelwalas5948 Před 10 měsíci

    I don’t want to appear negative… but what’s the point in adding performance parts like a slip on pipe and look to upgrade the ECU mapping when you don’t rev the bike even to halfway?.
    It’s very cruisey slow riding, so you’d be better off on an old XR250 .
    It sounds horrible but I really don’t want to come across that way at all 🙅🏽‍♂️

  • @onthethrottle7104
    @onthethrottle7104 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Pretty lame comparison really. Should take them for days on different trails and really put them to a real test. Also, any time you take a new bike it's going to feel better than a used one. Nothing better than a nice tight new bike, not to mention you've put all that money in the suspension and totally different tire set up on the new bike.

  • @sezeronal6806
    @sezeronal6806 Před 10 měsíci

    Please provide Turkish subtitles, we cannot use them, thank you…

  • @PNWEnduro
    @PNWEnduro Před 7 měsíci +1

    All your sponsors and industry connections yet you can't be bothered to use a spark arrestor as required to ride legally on public land? You'd think someone in your position would set a better example.