BEST BUDGET ULTRALIGHT BACKPACKING TENT - GEAR REVIEW
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This tent has so much going for it! It's Ultralight, has tons of space, it's easy to setup, packs super small, and costs $200. Plus some tips on getting the perfect pitch, dealing with condensation, and more.
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I just got my Lunar Solo. I have not had much luck getting the perfect pitch. Your video is great! Thanks
Best ever review and painstaking demonstration and explanation for pitching, utilization and maintenance. Subscribed! Keep em coming with same format. Outstanding.
Hell ya...THANKS🤘🤘🤘
Thanks for a great review. A couple of tips if I may... painting seam sealer lines on the bath tub floor provides some non slip grip to the floor to keep your sleeping pad in place - great if your site is not perfectly flat! Using a DWR (durable water resistant) retreatment like Nikwax has the rain water beading and running straight off - means the fabric doesn't stretch much in rainy conditions - also helps with 'shake n pack' next morning...
I purchased this tent directly from SMD for 250 and 30-35 bucks for them to seam seal this summer 2021. That’s still half the price of most CF tents, similar design. I appreciate the upgrades, cord and Line-loc for guy outs and fly materials ,less sag. I used this tent about 5 weekends on the AT this year. Your review was a big part of me choosing this tent as my first single wall shelter. The weight and pack size are great. Definitely need some ventilation. Open a door or my favorite,slide the doors up front guyline and create a awning. Again great review.
the best videos. and you're very creative. thank you! ordered zpacks duplex couple days ago for hikes with large dog
Best video Ive seen on this tent, thank you fro taking the time
Glad you liked it!
I have been using a lunar solo for the past few years. You’re absolutely right about the head and foot tie-outs being instrumental to the pitch. Using props creates better tension and interior volume. I have followed the manufacturer’s instructions for the pitch until now, but you appear to get a much better setup on the bathtub floor with your technique, so I will be trying that next trip. Keep up the good work with the videos!
Thanks Anthony....
Great tips, thank you. Currently using the 3FUL 1. Interested in this tent though for the Polyester difference.
I've had my lunar solo since 2006 and have used it on the PCT, AT and AZT. The tub tends to ride low and that was a design flaw that 6MD has since corrected. I've gotten around that by adding 2 more attachment points on the tent to guy out and lift the tent walls higher thus raising the tub. Totally agree with the amount of interior space and headroom. I've looked at the dyneema tents on the market but many of them dont have the interior room like the lunar solo so I'm sticking with it. Yeah there are disadvantages of silence nylon but I'm willing to put up with them. I've always used a groundcloth and with continue to do so.
Really well done , like how you cover every aspect. Deserve a sub
THANKS.....👍
Glad to see the Lunar Solo getting some love again (great overview). As my first trekking pole supported shelter, it was really great. So much room in there! Then I decided to move to the Gatewood Cape and Serenity NetTent, since it offers some more flexibility for a little less weight (and a lot less room!). That combo is a little more expensive, but still a great budget combo.
I think another more obvious budget shelter is a tarp/bug bivy combo. Obviously doesn’t have the enclosed area of a tent, but can be even more economical and versatile. I was surprised by how easy it is to set up a cat cut A-frame tarp. Cottage makers like Borah Gear and Yama Mountain Gear even make these in-house for a lower price than SMD’s foreign manufacturing provides.
Yea man. A tarp and groundsheet are definitely the least expensive shelter option. My first tarp was a 9x12 blue tarp from Walmart, $7 , 2lbs. But it worked. I plan on a tarp video in the future for sure.
I have the older version of the Lunar Solo in green with the 20D floor and loved it. The current price for the 40D floor version now sells for $230 without sealed seams, but I just upgraded to that version in grey when it recently went on sale for $180. The Lunar Solo rocks.
Yes it does...🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Great video! Can't wait to buy mine on the 1st!! Yahooooooo! My first trekking pole tent ⛺
It's a great choice!
I have a Zpacks Duplex and can absolutely use a couple of your tips to help with condensation and especially the sticks with the tie out for expanded head room. GREAT video! Thank You!
Yea man. It'll make a huge difference...👍
Thanks for checkin in.
I've owned the older version for years. Haven't an issue with it at all. My dog, a 17lb Pomsky and I love going out for long weekends.
Believe it or not, we only use a 50L backpack.
Usually just tie the tent to the outside of the pack.
I don't carry a trekking pole or carry a spare pole for the tent.
Usually find a good stick around 45" or so. Half way straight. Works well.
Saves space and weight also.
My upgrade on my older version is: I sewed a 1" x 4" loop on top of the tent. A lot of places we go. Has very good over hanging limbs.
Just a bit of #36 bankline some stakes. And we're ready to move in.
Good video
Been considering this shelter for some time. Thanks for the thorough review and tips. New subscriber.
Thanks Richie...👍👍👍
Nice review. I’ve been waiting for this video, thanks! Just curious whether a 25 inch sleeping pad would be pushing it for the LS? Also, your thoughts on LS versus 1 person Dcf tents like the Altaplex?
Scott, just ordered the 2020 version of the Lunar Solo based on your recommendation. Thanks for the setup tips. Can’t wait to try out this tent!
Sweet. The 2020 version looks like an improvement on an already great shelter....👍🏻
Super well thought out review, thanks!
Your very welcome...
decided to go with the XMid 1 by Dan. Am now interested in the Zpacks Hex tent with bugnet or this Lunar solo. I am a bivy/tarp sleeper and love the MLD tarps (wish they were Sil POLY instead of the saggy heavy wet Nylon. thanks for the video, good stuff you produce.
Dude, couple of brilliant suggestions on the cordage loops on the door, and those sticks at head and foot to for guylines!
Thanks man...👊👊👊
Excellent review of this great little tent, and handy extra tips. Thanks 😊
New sub here too - watching while in our current lockdown in New Zealand 😅🏡✔️
I am soooo looking forward to hitting the trails again!
Great video as always Scott!
Luke! What's up dude. Lets GO Hiking right now.....😆😆😆
started out with the msr hubba hubba nx2 last year, great tent but for full setup was pushing 4 nd half pounds. I also just bought the lunar solo instead of a carbon fiber tent due to cost. took out one night so far. love the simplicity and the wight even more lol!
Smart move Mitch. Your going to love it. Great shelter...👍
Dude the rain jacket over feet trick is SUPER 👌 sweet excellent review brotha!!😁✌💚
Thanks!
Great tips. I’ve been looking for an affordable backpacking tent, and this looks like a good option. Thanks for the informative review.
Absolutely. Thanks for watching. 👍
Thanks for great tip on using head/foot pull-outs.
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Hey Scott,
Great review of a great shelter. What's my go to UL shelter? .... wait for it .... The Lunar Solo.
I agree with you on setting the back corners first for a the best pitch, with one additional comment, I make sure the tie-out lines are following the line of the seam for the corner so all the tension is even on both sides of the panel seams all the way up to the peak. This has given the best pitch for me.
Yea man. That's a great way to do it. I think that's very close to a 45° angle but lining up with the "seem" makes total sense. Thanks for the tip..👍
I picked up a grey one last year and I agree with your points including the door hook. I did apply some thickened seam seal compound to the floor to keep my pad from slipping, it's pretty slick. The only time I had any condensation was after a heavy rain that lasted all night. I think for the cost, weight, and ease of use you cannot find a better tent.
Yes. I agree. Its hard to beat!!!
great review -- smart tips -- practical, easy to understand
Awesome!!!
More on the way.
Thanks Dan!!!
I’ve had my lunar solo for a little over a year now and love it. It took me a few times to get the pitch just right but now pitching it is like second nature. My only issue was the stitching on the vestibule zipper. It kept coming lose and my zipper would come off the end of the zips. I had to resew both ends. I also started running the front line out the outside and attaching the doors to it. Puts less stress on the zipper.
Hmmm.....I haven't had that problem, but good to know. I'll keep an eye on that area. Thanks for the info. Much appreciated 👊👊👊
Impressive content and amazing comment interaction. Looking forward to more videos!
Thanks. I appreciate that..👍👍👍
The LS is a great shelter and cannot be beaten for the price. I’ve used it in several multi week treks out west, where single wall shelters thrive. 2 issues you haven’t mentioned: i) slippery bathtub floor (fix: dots of rubbery glue on bottom of sleeping pad); ii) difficult to pitch in rocky terrain (fix: replace webbing with generous guy lines to reach further out or tie to rocks). Thanks for sharing!
Good tips. I have dots of shoe goo on my pad. I just ordered some Zline for the tieouts, although I havent had much trouble getting the webbing to hold under rocks. I just slide the stake or a small stick through the loop, lay the stake/stick flat on the ground and lay rocknon top of it.
I have a Lunar Solo in grey color (which I love), and a Lanshan2: definitely another fantastic budget tent.
Lots of love for the Lanshan on here....👍
Been using my Lunar Solo LE for 3 years now, love it! Like the idea of the loops at the end of the doors, never thought about that. Anyone pitching this tent, follow his directions in the video, not the ones from SMD, back 2 corner stakes first then trekking pole stake. Always get the right pitch this way. I do want the new silpoly material but need this one to die on me first, don't think that's going to happen anytime soon lol.
Nice. Glad to hear that setup method works for you too. 🤘🤘🤘
Happy to hear that this set up procedure works well with the LE. Hopefully, it gets me a decent bathtub.
Love my Lunar Solo, picked it up for $130 on a hiking forum on FB. I did have to seam seal it but it came with a carbon pole. Easy set up if you do as you suggested. My first SMD buy is the Scout- I love this tent!, although the washtub floor is not as deep as the Scout and it takes 2 poles-I use my hiking poles. The layout is much trickier but it’s my “go to” tent. Maybe not suitable for someone over 6 ft but the price is right. Thanks for the video.
Awesome. Thanks for the info...👌
Well done video. I have this tent and love it. for the price, it's hard to beat. Thanks for the tips.
Glad to hear that Mark. Thanks for watching dude...👊
Information was very helpful. I don't have one but my hiking buddy has one and he likes it very much. I've been eyeing his for awhile. Lol
That's the best way to test out Gear without actually having to pay for it first...🤣🤣🤣
I like the design of Lightheart tents, especially the Lightheart duo and Lightheart Solong 6.
Never seen a Lightheart tent. Thats one I'd like to check out.
The way that you review stuff is excellent. videos are very well done. I subscribed recently.
I guess a negative would be that you don't have a lot of content. So keeping doing this! Talk about anything you want. 5min video - sure! maybe some meals you pack?
Thanks so much for the kind words. Much appreciated! I'll be dropping new videos soon along with the launch of a new website. I'll be covering the same content as before, but also adding ways to use that ultralight mindset for more than just backpacking. I'll be covering ways to lighten not only your pack but your environmental footprint for trail, travel, and home. And yes, there will be plenty of gear reviews.
Stay tuned!
Nice video. I have thought about pulling the trigger on that tent several times. Great value. Crow✌️
Thanks Crow....🤘🤘
Nice video and good tips. Looks like a good tent. Thank you.
You bet. 👊👊👊
Seems like a great value. Considering getting this.
Yea man. Unless your down for spending 5 or 6 hundred dollars and going with a Dyneema shelter, I think the Solo is hard to beat. 🤙🤙🤙
Freestanding 1p MSR Hubba Hubba picked up at REI garage sale 7 years ago. Light, reliable and cheap BUT small. Ready to venture into trekking pole tent. Haven’t made up my mind. Appreciate your review as this is one of the tents I have looked into.
Yea man. I would definitely recommend the Lunar Solo. What are the other contenders?
Make up your mind: trekking pole tents are the best way to save a lot of weight with very few downsides (which I actually don’t see in my experience, if we talk about 3 season tents) and at very reasonable prices. It all depends on where you live; I live in Italy and hiking the Alps or the Appennines in winter definitely requires a winter tent, and that is the time for the ❄️ freestanding ones. But other than that a Lunar Solo or something like that is a great option!
I was looking at TarpTent Double Rainbow, Zpacs Duplex, obviously, both expensive. REI Flash,Lunar Solo and Lanshan as cheaper alternatives. I guess I have just been nervous with the setup component and the condensation “problem.” Set up looks easy with some practice and I don’t really think wiping down the tent in the morning would be a big deal for me. I also really like the idea of a 1 1/2 p tent like the Solo.
I love my X-Mid 2P by Durston as my budget tent. The 1P is only 28oz.
Love to learn about these tents. I’ve heard great things about this tent. I’m an East coast guy near the AT, so my my Warbonnet Superfly and Ridgerunner are my preferred setup, but I’m open minded and like to see what UL ground dwellers use. Under the right circumstances I might consider this tent. A great bargain compared with ZPacks and other models. Great job discussing the caveats and what you’ll need to be comfortable. I’m going to research their models that would allow two 25” inch Nemo Tensor pads. Still awaiting your MBM gear. 👍🏻
I'm an East Coast guy my self. North Carolina. Definitely not going to get two 25" pads in the Lunar Solo. The Lunar Duo would work. Lots of other options out there in that bigger size, weight, price range. I've been testing shirts for two years. Its not at all a CZcams merch thing. I actually chose Motivated By Mountains initially as the name for an outdoor brand. It seemed to work for the CZcams channel as well. Actually, it works for all my interests. I found the perfect shirt a little over a year ago. I'll have a logo T and a hiker graphic T coming soon. I'm going to put both on instagram and see which one folks would like first.
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First of all, I love this review and all of your content. I have a TarpTent Contrail and love the dickens out of it. I believe that I paid $125-150 for it years ago, long since discontinued. I have been worried about what to replace it with when it wears out. The tent guy lines and chosen stakes come in at 24oz. Simple to set up and love the vestibule. Not fun to be stuck in all day as the only place with the design to sit up is by the door and vestibule. You enter it like you would a sleeping bag, from the head and slide your feet to the bottom. This Lunar Solo is checking off all my desires and only minimally heavier. Thanks for the tips as well.
the Protrail replaced the Contrail. i have the Protrail and love that tent also. but i would not hesitate to a Six Moon product. the Lunar Solo is a nice tent for the money.
Yea. The protrail (newer contrail) is a great tent. Im not a huge fan of the way you have to slide into the tent or sit and spin around. The entry on the L Solo is much better in my opinion.
I use Stratospire 2 for winter and family camping. Bomber shelter.
I use the Lunar Solo also. I like it. I have had issues with my pad sliding around on the slippery floor. I need to put some strips of seam sealer on the floor to try to stop that. Condensation is somewhat a concern but I take a small towel like you do. Overall I’m pleased with the tent.
Try a couple dabs of shoe goo on the bottom of your pad. Sticks better than seam sealer and then your pad wont slip in your shelter, or anywhere else you decide to chill...👍
Dude thanks for the tip on the door. Was out in a windstorm the other night that thing was driving me nuts.
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No worries...👍
Great review, thanks for sharing 👍
Yea dude...👍
I use the luxe hexpeak 2p tipi shelter with the stove jack for the possibility of super cold night camping! Compares to seek outside tipi shelters but was only $200 rather than $1,000!!
Oooohh. That sounds awesome!!!
Love my The North Face Stormbreak 1 tent. At $130 it's cheap, durable, great company. 3 lbs 4 oz. after some lightweight stakes. And this thing is wind proof. Sierra slayer right here. 2 ply tent with vestibule.
Name of the game is to have fun. Clearly your havin fun with the NF stormbreaker. What a name. STORMBREAKER!!!!
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Thanks for the video I have the Lunar Solo LE and really like it. My only issue has been getting the bathtub floor looking like yours. I am looking forward to getting out in the backyard and trying your setup procedure. If I had not hurt my back a few days ago I would be in the backyard right now. Take Care and have a great weekend.
Warren, whats up buddy. Sorry to hear about your back. Got to get that thing healed up so you can get out on the AT and get some more miles....👍
@@TheUltralightMindset Hey Scott well I went out and played in the backyard today using your technique and found it to work well. However, either my expectations are too high or I have a defective Lunar Solo Le. Bathtub floor on back and ends of shelter are about 3-4 inches but at the entrance the zipper in only about 1" off the ground and I think I tried everything. If you have any ideas let me know. Have a great weekend. My back is feeling a little better so I just go through the pain.
@@davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker Huh. Did you set your pole at 51"?
Great video! I've been using a freestanding tent, but would like to transition to a lighter tent like this, without spending $600-$800 on a tent! This one looks like a great possibility. Thanks for sharing!
Yea, its a great tent.
Love my Lunar Solo LE.
What's your opinion on that crazy hook and webbing loops on the doors? Did I miss any other details on the shelter?
@@TheUltralightMindset Was a good review. I need to do a follow up to after using it for a good 3+ years. I find the hook and loops good.
@@HuckOutdoors 👍👍👍
Hi I’m running the naturehike cloud up 2. Light and robust. A little annoying in high winds if the wind direction shifts in the night. A art from that it’s a good 2 man tent. Mine is the upgrade model and cones in at 1400g with lines pegs ground sheet and bag
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I use the SMD Skyscape Trekker and love it. Bit more weight but the ability to open it up almost entirely is hard to beat
Nice...👌
Same with me. I live in the north of Germany and do a lot of hiking in Scandinavia and Seakajaking so I needed a lightweight tent what can handle some strong wind. The Skyscape Trekker is a good choice for me, gives me plenty of space and performed quite good in rainstorms. Set up is fast and easy, just 5 stakes and you are done.
@@slowfox532 Yes, I've taken mine into hail storms and high winds. Setup is also quick... Can get it pitched with only three stakes if you keep the vestibule completely rolled up. Can also pitch it in the rain without getting a ton of rain inside.
I just got this tent during the earth day sale, I like it but I’m still learning how to get the vent at the bottom fully extended. I am using a carbon fiber pole, they tend to bend under tension. I’m looking into an msr mesh tent with tarp as a two person setup. Great tips though thanks for this video.
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If I were to have a budget shelter it would probably be the similar tents from Gossamer Gear (packs as well). The setup is as simple as the duplex, you just have the sil nylon tradeoffs. I'd have to say at 100.00 cheaper this would be a pretty good option.
Im sticking with my story that I told my wife two years ago - sooner or later Zpacks is going to figure out that the duplex is much cheaper than their competition and correct it...which they finally did this year, so Im in a budget dyneema tent now. And yes I have a perfectly straight poker face on right now.
The best fun of dyneema is 3 seasons later when you realize it actually was worth the money. Mine is still like brand new.
The Duplex is my goto shelter. 4 years and counting....👍
It's debatable which I have that I like the best. I own a Eureka Spitfire that I got on sale for $100.00 that is double walled, never gets condensation.. has the fly footprint option for non buggy weather.. but I normally take it as is.. I like it for a few reasons.. although it is a bit heavier weighing in at roughly just over 3 lbs 6oz... but never leaks water and never gets condensation because of the dual wall design...
The pegs are two main end pegs foot and head... two half hoop support poles and the tent truly doesn't usually need the other two tent pegs if you're in decent conditions... just a third for the front tiny vestibule... Now this tent is very tight and is almost a bivy like replacement that gives you enough room to sit up and read if caught in prolonged rain storms. It is light enough at just over three pounds that I would consider it ultralite... the down side to it is your main pack will have to be stored outside. Usually I sat my pack close enough to get to if I open the vestibule. right beside my head outside, with my rain gear covering my pack in rainy weather. (my knapsack has a rubber liner and is made of a very lightweight canvas material so it never gets wet, but the added protection of rain gear over it just makes me sleep better at night.) This tent has a few obvious advantages if you're camping in very rocky sheltered terrain...with low winds, as truly if bugs are your only worry that day pegging only two pegs is possible with the poles supporting the sides solidly. Sometimes even when winds are moderate I will still set it up fast this way to get out of the rain quickly to hunker down faster. We all know being soaked can make or break a trip!...it's my go to currently, but have been looking at the Six Moons Designs Lunar Solo for some time and will likely use both tents depending on expected weather... if real bad rains are expected...I would probably use the Eureka Spitfire for its rock solid no moisture reputation... If expecting only light rains then I can shed a lb and take the Lunar Solo....and have the advantage of far more room... Weather is of course the deciding factor tho. Great video! Nice tips! Keep up the good work! I love the tranquility that tent shelters provide in bad weather. They're everything in those conditions! Keep dry and stay safe out there brothers and sisters!
Staying dry is definitely a bonus. Never had any trouble with rain in the Lunar Solo....👍
I'm 6'4" and went for the BA Copper Spur for a PCT section hike this August. But am now considering this tent for a possible through hike next year. Tough to find tents for tall guys!
I agree. It is tough.
I'd love to see a Dyneema version of this tent with 6 more inches of floor length....🤩
I have this tent I am 6ft, this will be way too small for you.
Great tips! Did you seam seal it yourself? Are all your stakes Ti shepherd hooks? How many stakes do you use for your pitch?
Yes. Seam sealed it myself. I use 8 steaks. 2 titanium V steaks for the pole tie outs. Titanium shepard hooks for the corners and head, foot.
I use Lunar Solo 90% of the time I also use Vango F10 Helium UL 1 Lightweight Tent roughly same price as lunar.
Thanks for sharing👍
No problem 👍
awesome!
Yea dude...👌
I had the original TARPTENT MOMENT 32 oz. and only takes 2 stakes to set up in normal conditions. No Trekking poles required.
I upgraded to the TARPTENT NOTCH 26 ounces and requires 4 stakes and 2 trekking poles
Really like both tents but I have always been curious about the luna solo because of how small it packs down to.
I use a Gossamer Gear Mariposa pack which has a deep exterior side pocket to carry the Notch. I wish more packs had that option.
Yea man. It's crazy how small it packs down. Probably a third the size of my duplex...😏
Watched all of it
Hi Scott. The Tarp Tent Brand model "Pro Trail" is similar cost, weight, interior space. The functional design has been around for many years and well tested. Easy set up and great in storm conditions if oriented correctly. The main difference is an end entry vs side entry but for many of us that is less of an issue and sometimes offers ergonomic benefits for sleeping bag/quilt entry exit. Thanks for an awesome video with great "Pro Tips" that apply to most shelters regardless of manufacturer.
Thanks Robert. I agree the Protrail is a great shelter. My buddy has one. Henry Shires makes some killer shelters. I have a Stratospire 2 for winter and family camping. Bomber shelter! Thanks for the great information.
Currently use the Gossamer Gear The One. Love the size but not the lines.
Gossamer Gear makes some great gear. I used the mariposa for a year, then the Kumo for a couple. My wife and son still use Kumos.
Great packs.
use lanshan 2 and love it. plenty of room. sets up quickly. price approx. 130.00. weighs 2 lbs. i bought so long ago, it's hard to recall. used once in the snow with no problems. gonna use this w/e for 7-10 days.
Not sure I could fit in the Lanshan. Well, I'm sure I could fit, but probably not unless I was diagonal or in the fetal position....😂 I have seen quite a few of them out on trail. Definitely a great option for some. 👍
Motivated By Mountains In the Lanshan2 you can use the guylines the way you use yours to extend the head/foot room, and unless you are 6’1” or more I think you could fit... at least slightly diagonal😜
It is a little heavier than the Lunar Solo, but it is also a double wall tent, so you can forget about condensation. They also sell a winter inner tent for something like 50/60usd, which makes it perfect for the cold season.
@@adopancia7445 Great information. Thanks...👍
Is this the same as the lanshan model tent
I've had the Lunar Solo for about a year and like it a lot for many of the reasons you mention in the video. I also learned to pitch it the way you demonstrate but if my eyes didn't deceive me, did you use your trekking pole with the tip & basket down on the ground and the handle up into the top of the tent? If my memory serves me correctly SMD recommends the basket/tip end in the top of the tent (the reverse of what I think you did). If that's the case, do you find this works better? Just curious as to how you came to the decision to use your trekking pole in this way. Thanks for the help.
Good eye! Yes, I put my trekking pole tip down. I find it much easier this way. I dont use the grommet or elastic loop on the bottom. I find the pitch and floor works better if not attached to the trekking pole...👍
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll have to try that out; hopefully next week in the Catskills.
Not sure about prior Lunar Solo versions, but in the one I bought this month (Nov 2020), I contacted SMD and they told me the trekking pole tip inserts into the pocket at the top of the tent, with the handle going through the elastic loop at the bottom of the tent. (The grommet at the bottom of the tent is only for the thin pole that you can buy from them if you’re not using your trekking pole.). Following this method, their recommended 49” height setting for the trekking pole worked just fine. Love this tent. BTW, one of my shepherd hook stakes came out of the ground during a strong wind/rain storm, so I ordered some MSR Mini Groundhogs, plus one regular Groundhog for the front, main guy line, which should be well worth the minor weight penalty. Thanks again, Scott, for the recommendation!
I have the trekker and removed the velcro on the fly zippers; it's the only thing that annoyed me . Nice tents for the price.
I Agree...
I have no experience with the Lunar Solo but I own a $50 River Country Products Trekker Tent 2.2.
I looked into the River Country products a while back but I have to say I was not impressed. But if it's working for you, gets you out on the trail, and puts a smile on your face, that's all that matters.😁
Motivated By Mountains I should state that it’s not nearly as lightweight as the Lunar Solo. It’s about 3 pounds with lightweight stakes whereas the Lunar Solo is 1.625 pounds. I did have a bad experience with it though in a nighttime torrential rainstorm. By morning I was sitting in about 1/2” of water, so it definitely needs better water proofing.
@@anthonydukeiii6799 Yikes. Thats not good.
Hi Scott, I've been thinking about this tent in the 2-person version. It seems like it has a really low bathtub floor. Do you get water splashing in when it rains?
Nope. Bath tub floor is about 6 inches or more when pitched properly. 👍
@@TheUltralightMindset Great, thx!
Lanshan UL1. It aint perfect, but for a 1P ul shelter on a budget, not too shabby. wouldn't recommend if you're over 5'9"!!
Yea. If it was just a bit bigger. I haven't seen the Lanshan Pro (single wall) in person yet. I wonder if it has more space?
Im a 15 year hanmock campers, 1 year tent camper. I went with the DD Xmid. Have both the 1p and 2p. Personally, I prefer double wall because I like veing able to divy wet and dry parts of my shelter up seperately and not worry about interior moisture on my gear. Gotta say, I love it.
This is one of the few highspeed shelters Ive seen in person and was going to be my choice until the Xmid came out.
I haven't seen the X Mid in person yet, but what I've seen and read looks interesting. .
Anyone know how durable the floor is? I’m thinking about an 80lb dog moving around it in and if it will hold up. My current 2-person is very durable but also very heavy so I’d like to drop weight but not if my dog is going to ruin it after a few trips.
I have a 95lb hound, lab mix. No issues at all. The floor is plenty durable. Just note....my dog spends a lot of time outdoors, trail running with me, and I clip his nails. Unless your dog has unusually sharp nails I think your good to go..👍
Gossamer gear “the one”, 19 oz without stakes. So far so good
I know a few folks with that tent. Ive heard good and slightly bad thoughts. Sounds like it works for you and that is all that matters....👊👊👊
@@TheUltralightMindset yes I have herd bout the condensation on the inside. I live in California with no humidity and have had no problems.
@@Mth308 I think condensation is always a "potential" issue with "any" single wall tent, regardless of the brand, materials, or design. No big deal.
Even more budget friendly: check out the Lanshan bij 3F UL
Another good option. But not quite Apples to Apples.
In the last 60 years my preferred camping item is a Jungle Hammock. At times when it calls for a tent the Six Moons Lunar Solo is my choice , mine is a older model. Six Moons offers, top quality camping gear. Just like my old 15 oz Six Moons Designs Swift Backpack ( it's semi-retired ). Today it's a Zpacks cuben fiber Nero because it's waterproof. .
I set the tent up the same way with one exception. On the end pull outs I use a Carbon fiber 32 inch folding pole from Zpacks. I also use a Treaking pole cup ( Zpazks ) on the lines for the tip of the pole to fit in. The other end of each pole when in soft earth sits in a rubber treaking pole cup.
Wow. That makes my sticks seem silly....😂
Thanks for all the info..👍
What are the coldest temps you have used the tent in?
Upper teens...
@@TheUltralightMindset Thank you bud on the thorough review and response. Stay motivated!
Any issues with setting this up on rocky ground
The floor is very durable, but obviously you want to avoid sharp rocks.
I've been using the 3F UL Gear Lanshan 1 Pro, and it is extremely solid! Plenty of room for myself and my gear! I might end up upgrading to the Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo since it is made of Silpoly vs the Silnylon on the Lanshan. I also like that the Lunar Solo is 48' at its widest, thats about 9 inches more than the Lanshan, at only a mere 2oz more.
That being said, the Lanshan 1 Pro is a great option (although you do have to seam-seal it yourself) and I'd highly recommend it if you are just getting into trekking pole tents!
I'm curious. How long is the floor? How tall are you?
@@TheUltralightMindset the floor is 90.5 inches, and I am exactly your height and weight actually, it is pretty dang roomy in the tent! I haven't tried your trick with the side pullout with the sticks, I bet it would be even better!
@@TheUltralightMindset I will say, I did see that in the Lunar Solo, the vents at the foot and head end were vertical, giving a bit more vertical space. The vents on the Lanshan 1 Pro are completely horizontal, so the canopy actually slopes down a bit more it seems.
@@articus5134 Wow, 90 thats great. Yea, Pulling out with sticks makes a huge difference.
Articus I have a Lunar Solo and also a Lanshan1 Pro, and I do not see al that difference in the width... maybe a couple of inches but definitely not 9 inches... maybe it is the way you measure it: I consider the barhub of the Lanshan Pro maybe even a little better than the LS since it comes (if correctly pitched) almost perfectly vertical. I also made some mods to the bathub shock cords, adding 5 tensioners. Also, Lanshan Pro has a guyline on the back that the LS does not have (at least mine does not).
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Bought mine on sale right when they went to SILPOLY for $160 SHIPPED.
Nice....👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@TheUltralightMindset Got lucky...It was only on sale for 3 days.....
Does anyone know if the Deschutes DCF has the same internal space as the Lunar Solo?
It's alot smaller. Perfectly fine if you're under 5'10
Nope. Quite a bit smaller.
I would love to see a Dyneema Lunar Solo!!!
That's a shame! Finding a 360 dcf tarp or tent as 6'5 is a nightmare. Lunar solo's space is manageable for 'us' :/ thanks anyways!
It was a choice between this, the x-mid 1p,and the gossamer gear the one for my thru-hike last year. The fact that this tent doesn't come factory seam sealed is a big fail in my opinion. The gossamer gear was over my budget, I decided on the x-mid because I got it on one of the first drops for $200.
How did you like the Xmid for your thru?
@@TheUltralightMindset it's an awesome tent, due to the fact it was a thru I can't speak badly about the durability because most equipment isn't built for that kind of abuse. The fact it can be pitched in basically 30 seconds once you learn it is priceless. I'm looking to replace it with another one now that they are easier to get.
@@thetrailawaits498 Awesome. Thanks for the feedback!!!
That has a wide floor for what it is!
Yea. Tons of room.👍
I use a River Country Product 1v. Single wall trekking pole tent. 7’ long x 4’ wide. $35
I looked at the river country tents last year. Seemed like a possible option for a low investment shelter, but the lack of ventilation seemed problematic. $35 is crazy cheap. How's it workin out?
Motivated By Mountains really well. There was a bad batch but they took good care of it. The condensation is no worse than any other single wall. Budget was definitely a driving force in my purchase. My cousin also owned one and I saw it in action many trips before I purchased one. The weight isn’t the best or worse. 2.4 lbs. being 6’4” I struggle to find a good length without the weight. So far so good. I do like that lunar though
@@AS-yg2kf That's great. Sounds like you found a winner for the taller folks out there. 👍
This is embarrassing but no. I got it to 50 than had to back off it seemed to be too tight. Maybe I have to reduce tension on back two stake-outs. I’ll give it another try.
Yea. Go ahead and set pole at 51" first. Unzip and unhook the doors.
Stake the back two corners at a 45°angle. Insert the pole. It should be completely verticle. Straight up. Stake out the main guy line at full length. Stake out the front corners at 45 angle. Then stake out the back center tieout. Attach the doors and ZIP.
Motivated By Mountains I will give it another try. Did everything but the 51. In fact having doors unzipped worked much better.
@@TheUltralightMindset Scott, it took me a while to realize the trekking pole tip inserts into the pocket at the top, and the trekking pole handle goes on the ground with the elastic loop wrapped around it. (Didn’t read SMD’s instructions carefully enough. The grommet at the bottom is only for the accessory pole you can purchase from them.). Is that how you’re doing it? Doing it this way, a trekking pole height of 49-50” works fine for me.
@@jeffrubin8570 Nope. I put the tip down. I find it works well both ways. However, trying to put the tip into that little sleeve up top is NOT easy in less than favorable conditions, like when its dark, cold, and raining. Sooo much easier with tip down, for me at least.
Lanshan 1 $100 very similar.
Lots of Love for the Lanshan out there...😏
Lanshan 2 i picked up for 108 bucks....thats half the price of a lunar solo....
You get what you pay for
Whaaaaat???? Not a Lanshan?
Nope. Great tent but a bit small for most.
Dollar for dollar I just cant see a better deal than the 30$ scout tent..
If you use your trekking poles it comes in at about 1.5 lbs..tons of room and packs down..
I'm sure this tent is awesome, looks legit, but $ for $ the scout remains king..
I think it would get more credit if the hiking community wasnt so "affluent"
Ok. Point me in the direction of the Scout Tent.
any weight under 1 lb. won't make any difference, whether tent, sleeping bag/ pads, etc....
too many folks don't have common senses .... LOL !!!