Testing Budget Lightweight Hiking Tent in Bad Weather! LANSHAN 2 Gale Force Wind & Rain 2 Nights
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2022
- Ahh, the Lanshan 2 in all its glory. A lot went wrong here. Despite being a bit of a pain, I still love this tent. But I’ll be saving it for summer in future haha
See the full, non-tent-focused video of this trip here - • 2 Nights Alone in the ... - it was wild & beautiful!
Thanks so much for watching 😊 Much love, Claire 🌿🐻
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Remarkable how Claire can endure those kinds of very challenging camping conditions --- without drinking heavily... One tough cookie she is.
yup you're right, she's tough! i would've hike back out on night one!
Hahaha thanks! 😄🍻
This comment i like 👍
I need a stiff bourbon watching her !=8)
Maybe she is drinking heavily off-camera? 😛
Now that's what I call a review! I can't believe what Claire puts herself through for some of her videos, she's definitely not just a fair weather camper. Total respect, most people would have packed up and gone home, I know I would have.
Many people love her videos
After watching your video, I also think lanshan2 is great. Although it is not its strong point in resisting strong winds, I will try to modify it. I bought it from Camperlists and it was cheap and tax-free.
I also modified it
fb group has a lot of introductions on how to modify it
AliExpress is not cheap either. Since it started charging 20% tax last year, the overall price has increased a lot.
It helps a lot to thin the silicone with mineral spirits. Much easier to work with but also flows into the seam more readily and provides a more reliable seal.
If you had squashed it down, it would pack down to half that size.
Claire, a long time ago I learnt that tent pegs placed in soft ground(sand, snow etc) can easily be pulled out. What we were taught was to dig your pegs in sideways horizontal to the ground)Have your guy rope attach around the middle of the peg. This means the wind has to pull against a lot more ground. We were also told that if the peg came out of the ground like this -> next time dig it in deeper.
You can also use the innovative Delta pegs which are remarkable in soft ground. They are quite heavy, but taking a few for the key guying points is well worth it if they save you from an epic.
To be fair, any tent would struggle in those conditions. I think it’s safe to say that trekking pole tents are probably best for below the tree 😊line. That was a great test in real world conditions.
Eeeeeh depends, I normally camp with a 3x4.5m DD Tarp that I origami into 80% closed shelter using a trekking pole, and it has kept me dry and only slightly terrified in nighttime hailstorms with 40-60kph winds, without breaking or bending my poles. (one internal and one external for tensioning). The main problem with the Lanshan 2 is the way it distributes the forces on the trekking poles. A simple pyramid shelter made out of a tarp, with the pole vertically at its approx. center, with equally distributed force applying downwards on the pole will hold much better than the flimsy Lanshan or any tent that relies on those skinny fiberglass skeletons. I've learnt it off this dude: czcams.com/video/NaSdDDA10EI/video.html, 2 years ago and I've been using this ever since
I'm watching this from the comfort of my bed and warm blanket with a hot mint green tea :)
Gotta appreciate a full on honest test with someone who is quite prepared. Good on ya!
I really admire how you battle through such atrocious conditions and keep so cheerful and upbeat. Legend.
You admire her? and i only say her because i dont know her first name, because she is the cats mother. Seriously you admire her? For spending a night out bush?
Thanks Anthony, tis still good fun in the bad weather, mostly haha :)
@@foxone265 My name is Claire. You seem a bit peeved about something?
@@foxone265 yes
@@WildBeare not at all Claire, i think your a tougher chick then most for doing what you do but as far as admiration goes i have a higher standard then @Anthony Hudson
Those trees in the background should be the place to camp some shelter from the wind and additional things to tie off to. Claire you have way more patients then I would have. I would have pulled my hair out. gotta luv your fortitude.
We rarely see a "proper" test of gear but thats a proper gear test right there Claire, well done. You have more patience with that tent than I would have had and I would have definitely gone the full Basil Fawlty on the thing.
One thing you might try is to have a selection of differently sized tie wraps (cable ties) in the rucksack as theyre light in weight and good for fixing everything from tents to rucksacks.
That's some proper thorough tent testing!
Claire, you have quickly become my very favorite camping channel. Your grace and good humor is remarkable, even in horrible weather!
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Claire, I have to give it to you. No easy camping ever for you. You always master the tough challanges. I truly enjoyed this crazy trip. Thanks🙂
Fantastic video. Total commitment to a test of a tent. I haven't seen another gear reviewer test the limits of gear like this. Several good tips in the "be prepared" category too.
Ahh yay thanks so much, so glad you liked it :D
It's amazing how you remained encouraged and motivated the entire time while enduring those types of conditions. I'm an Eagle Scout and have been doing what your doing for over 15 years minus the filming portion, and can understand what it's like to get a tent or other pieces of gear that tend to let in water. As discouraging as it may seem, you pushed through and made the best out of a wacky scenario. Thanks for sharing! :) (Also a quick tip with the tent in the rain, try pitching the rain fly first, and maybe covering it with an additional tarp, then set up the bug-mesh underneath to keep it mostly dry. I learned the hard way to always bring a backup towel in case :) )
Cheers!
Thanks Alex! I suspected it wasn't going to do so well but wanted to test it out while it was still mild enough not to be a dangerous experiment haha. Ooo yes I could deffo have pitched it outer first! It would have stayed dry pitching it all in one go if I was paying more attention though.. I was distracted by wresting with it against the wind 😄Have a lovely weekend :) Claire
Thank you sooooo much for not only testing equipment like this in gale force winds but letting us know what to do to prepare and fix the problem so it may not happen again. You're the best. Lots of respect from your friends in Florida USA 🌴 (land of the hurricanes)
Glad you found it useful David :) best wishes from UK 🇬🇧 Happy Friday! Claire
I enjoy these videos because they give me a sense of adventure and insight into camping equipment.
Lots of respect 🙏 being out there in that weather for us. You're very much appreciated 💜
Thank you 🤗Happy Friday
Claire you are brilliant. You make the impossible...possible. I value all of your product evaluations, you put everything through the most arduous conditions. Thank you. Stay Beautiful, tough, and informative.
I have to say these are some of the most enjoyable streams I have watched. Your enthusiasm and your joy at your surroundings is infectious. I live in North Wales and look out at the Carnedds and Glyders everyday. I share your love of the mountains. Keep up the fantastic streams!❤
Your perseverance is incredible, you’re well prepared 👍 I’ve got the Lanshan 1 but I always determine to pitch it in a wind sheltered area and use a dedicated carbon pole that secures into the tent pocket as opposed to using trekking poles.
Thank you so much :) I've got the Lanshan 1 too, but the pro version. I have a friend with one of those carbon poles and it snapped so I'm not sure of those either personally, but glad it is working for you 🏕 Have a lovely weekend :D Claire
Very amazing, Claire. Love the video. I could actually feel your frustration. You handled it all so calmly. I think any tent would be difficult under those conditions, but you did quite well. ✌🏽
Thanks Tom, I was really losing patience with it by the end of the trip 😄 I didn't mention in the video but this was originally supposed to be a 3 night trip but I'd had enough of the tent after 2.. it was getting exhausting haha. But good to experience it in these conditions while it was still mild. Have a great weekend! Claire 🐻
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Wow! The bent pole. What a storm. That wind was relentless. Love your courage, confidence and adventure! You're an inspiration for sure. Cool fast-forward transition, graphics, sound effects and your audio was amazingly clear considering the conditions. Your honesty is so refreshing. If something goes right you show it and if something doesn't go quite right we get to join you in your struggles. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Thank you for all your hard work!
That's really cool to see what those kinds of tents are capable of withstanding. Thanks for the show!
Superb Claire. I once travelled from the UK via Holland and Russia/China to Hong Kong. I used a Saunders space packer tent. Back in the day it was expensive but now some thirty years later I still have it and still use it. Through rain, wind, and snow it never once let me down. We learn the most about ourselves in the hardest of environments and you adapted well!
Thanks John! Aw that sounds a great, solid & reliable tent :) Yes that is very true. Have a lovely weekend 🌿 Claire 🐻
Price do not deceive.
Saunders tent here too, back in the day. Sold it, and often regret it.Claire , you are the one. go girl!
No substitute for a quality rock solid tent (plus boots and sleeping bag ): by the time you've added all those extras you might just have gone for a Vango. My Ultimate Equipment tent is 44 years old; its had a few repairs but has worked out cheap in the long run and it wasn't that pricey to start. You sometimes see them on eBay. Travel well. Tent is wearing better than owner.
@@iamdew Don't quite understand but the space packer was £275.00 back then. 1.6kg and I as an outer pitch tent, I could have shelter in 4 mins.
Another amazing video Claire and that is one serious tent test. Your patience is impressive.
and I hope you’ll be enjoying a more relaxed experience on your next adventure!
Thanks Richard :) I was out with my tarp for 2 nights on the next one which to be honest wasn't much more bother than wresting with this tent haha! Have a lovely weekend 🐻Claire
Epic 2 nights! Thank you so much for sharing. Makes me super comfortable watching on the comfort of my sofa. Stay healthy and keep sharing your beautiful experiences
Aw yay, thank you for watching 💚
I love this. there's nothing like wild camping to give you a complete reset. Keep it up Claire. You are an inspiration
I’m sorry Claire, I know the weather was cra……testing, but I laughed at this escapade, your fab outlook on life really cheers up more people than you know! Thanks 😊👍🏽♥️⛺️
Hahaha thanks Chris, glad you enjoyed it 😄 Have a great weekend :D
My takeaways:
- Any tent will be a nightmare in winds like that. Holy cow.
- Finding a camp in the trees is always best to protect from wind/rain.
- Use adjustable trekking poles. The wind gets under tents like this because the poles are slightly too tall (at normal height). Lowering the poles brings the base down and wind can't lift from underneath.
- Small carabiners are a nice lightweight tool.
Nice review!
Great video. Beeing a sommer camper I learned a lot about preparation for bad nights! Thx Claire!
Thank you so much for having the guts to do this. I love the lanshan 2 but will definitely be making the changes you suggested and seam sealing the pull outs.
Omg, im so impressed with your dedication and hard work, always looking forward to your uploads 🙂
Thanks so much! :)
Wow!! That was definitely a true test of that tent and a testament to your tenacity to really put it through the an ultimate use case scenario.
Really highlights the quality compromises with budget gear, and the advantage single pole shelters have when pitching in high wind.
Good job improvising with the broken clip and tieout👍
I have nothing but respect for her she is amazing.
Wow Claire, now that was a proper and hardcore test of the Lanshan's capabilities right there! Really glad that you were prepared with all of the gear that you needed for those contingencies. Been looking forward to seeing this after your last video... and it was certainly well worth the wait! Hope that you have a wonderful weekend my friend :) Stay wild.... -John
Hi John! 👋Ahh thanks, it was fun (sort of 😄) to give it a good testing while it was still so mild out. But that's it for me and the Lanshans until next spring/summer now haha. You too, I'm having a nice relaxing & festive weekend with my son for this one, very lovely :) Claire 🐻
@@WildBeare Us adventure seekers sure do have an "interesting" concept of fun don't we, haha ;) I'm incredibly happy to hear that you got to have a nice relaxing and festive weekend with your son :) I hope that the rest of your week is amazing as well Claire! :) -John
I love how you back up your tech knowledge with real world experience! Sooo useful!!! I really appreciate your videos, thanks 😊
Thanks so much! Have a nice eve :)
Awesome. Exactly what we all what to know how the tent performs in this kind of weather cause that's what's it's all about with tents
First, as always THANK YOU! You're amazing.
Second: Always set a tent with the door or most vertical wall, or most vented area on the leeward side.
Third: Prusik knots, trucker's hitches, and taut line knots are your friend. Any time you can, eliminate the plastic or metal fittings and just use line on line to secure everything. It's lighter and sturdier.
Fourth: You'd have to work to do this, but the closer you can get the fly to the ground, the better it'll endure winds because it won't tend to lift as pressure builds inside the tent. Alternatively, if you can build up a ridge to disrupt the wind flow under the fly, you'll be miles ahead. The latter is preferable as it'll still allow better venting to reduce condensation.
Fifth: I experienced bending poles under normal tension securing a tarp once. I switched to carbon fiber poles. Dunno if you guys have Costco, but they make an awesome set for something like $35 USD. They're great!
Sixth: I think I said this once before, but lay across the middle of the tent, arms and legs spread out, then pivot around and drive the stakes/pegs in. This will keep the tent from ballooning and pulling up the stakes as you work around. Then get the pole up and move the stakes around one at a time as necessary.
Seventh: A sil-poly material will resist stretching/sagging to a much greater degree than sil-nylon. Not sure what you bought that for, but the Six Moon Design Lunar Solo is the Lanshan made of sil-poly for not really much more money when it comes down to it. The Lanshan Pro1 is now $180USD on Amazon and the Lunar Solo is $250 (sometimes cheaper) on their website or Amazon. The lack of stretch when wet will certainly keep the structure far more stable, particularly when combined with wind. The Six Moon Design Skyscape (Trekker or Scout) might also be a really good option for you. The difference between the two is weight, but both are sil-poly material. The Skyscape Trekker is $270 and the Scout is the same exact design but is only $160. This uses two trekking poles (which you already carry) and is crazy stable in wind. They're also double-walled (80% anyway) which will really help with the condensation. In the summertime, this tent also would work awesome for you because it can effectively be opened up completely on both sides leaving you in just a mesh tent (doors on both sides as well). I think the Scout is a far superior tent to the Lanshans, especially for effectively less money (or the same if you have them seam seal it for you).
Check out the Skyview (this is the Scout version which is $160USD and weighs just 40oz/1134): www.sixmoondesigns.com/collections/ultralight-1-person-tents/products/skyscape-scout-backpacking-tent
This is the Trekker version which is $270 and weighs just 28oz/790g): www.sixmoondesigns.com/collections/ultralight-1-person-tents/products/skyscape-trekker-hiking-tent
Thanks so much for your advice! I am thinking of buying a lanshan so thanks for the alternatives!
Got a tent and the backpack is in the mail, thanks for the inspiration to camp 👍
Amazing! Happy camping :D 🏕
Your perseverance is inspiring!❤
They Claire love the music at the end. You endure so much for these videos. You truly love what you do and it shows. You're a real trooper. Well done.
The door hook is a rather common complaint on this one. I heard about it even before I'd set up my Lanshan 1 Pro for the first time. I replaced it with a simple carabiner before the first use and haven't worried about it ever since. I own the Lanshan 1 and 2, both Pro versions. I've used them in some gnarly weather and in all 4 seasons without any issues, even in some rather heavy wind which forced us to put rocks on the pegs and create small rock walls near the vents to keep the wind chill out.
Do you point the door joining angle towards the wind? Or what's the best angle?
@@olivemcgrath5231 I remember I pointed the door kind of away from the wind and also lowered the tent a fair bit. For us the wind was mostly hitting the tent at the head end. I can't say for sure what exactly is best yet tho. But I personally much prefer to not have the wind hit the door since that part of the tent is higher than the rest.
@@FuttFel cheers. I have only used mine in calm summer conditions but plan on winter camping as I have a 4 season inner, I am a bit worried now after seeing the video
@@olivemcgrath5231 I used mine without the 4 season inner on a simple hike. But we got no wind or snowfall so it worked out OK. Driving snow would've been awful in mine without the 4 season inner. I think the Pro version is tough stuff so wind shouldn't rip it. But site selection is going to be very important. I've only had my Hilleberg Akto in proper 4 season conditions so I know as little as you do how the Lanshan will perform.
Now that's the kind of review I want to see before purchasing a gear! Not like all those other people pitching up a tent in their garden 😀That was a very brave review!
Great video this shows you exactly what can happen in extreme conditions. Despite all the set backs with the tent in those gale force winds you still managed to keep the tent up in one way or another. Some good advice for any body setting out on these wild camps. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks David! It was fun(ish) to give it a good testing in some adversity 😄 Hope you're having a nice week :)
Take a bow Claire,that looked absolutely brutal.Fantastic review on the tent,everyone can see know what the challenges are in bad weather with this .Glad you got through your two nights and came out in one piece 😊best wishes
Thanks Ian, it was a pretty challenging one haha, glad to test it out while the temps were still mild.. wouldn't fancy it in cold. Have a nice weekend :) 🌿🐻
Another cracking film. Love your enthusiasm. I have to say though that with over 45 years backpacking in the UK & Europe/Scandinavia on foot, bicycle & motorbike, that tent, rucksack & sleeping bag technologies have moved zero steps forward. It's about change to keep sales going. What's the point of an ultralightweight tent when you need a groundsheet or extra pegs, or it rips ? A slightly heavier tent with a thick attached groundsheet will not let you down for years. Travel fewer miles or get a little fitter or leave something else behind. A good sleep is great but your tents is your survival shelter. Getting out of your bag, into crap weather, getting cold, just to put it back up is dangerous. Stay safe 👍
👍👍👍.
Truth. There are documented cases where tent failures 'off the bus route' have had dire consequences.
Scaling back on a robust setup for the sake of reducing mass will carry risks.
I think in this case part of the beauty is seeing claire cope with situations that I would have avoided , and being boring , a phoxx 2 is a better option ?
This feels a little bit unfair - this is a budget ultralight tent and it performs pretty well for the price point. High-end tents made today would definitely outperform high-end tents from 45 years ago, but this is not one of those. I'd guess this tent would easily outperform a budget tent from 45 years ago though, but no one has one of those any more because they've all broken years ago.
It's important to understand the limitations of budget gear and Claire is helping with that, but it's not fair to compare old, high-end hear from the past with current budget gear and say that things haven't improved.
Great test Claire! that was insane 😂makes me wonder if they make a tent to withstand the Wildbeare torture test! 💖
Hahaha! Torture test.. that would be a great title for the next tent video 😄 Thank you, have a lovely weekend :)
Well done , most people would have given up and gone home on the first day , you are one tough lady you are a inspiration to all wild campers.❤
Aw thanks! :D Have a great weekend!
Incredible, you are a strong woman, many men would not stand such weather and would run home. But you do not give up, you are an inspiration for such trips, I admire and greet
Aw thanks so much! :)
😮 now that was a Real World tent review.. I'm still not put off Claire in buying one, but I know for weight and how spacious it is. It also comes with compromises and definatley not to use in really bad weather. But such a cracking tent. Awesome video Claire your certainly hard-core and clearly love the outdoors no matter what the weather.. 😁👍 Takecare 🐻
Hey Mike! Haha yehh, I still love it. But deffo not for winter 😄 Hope you have a great weekend :D Claire
I’ve got one of those and they’re great tents, really good. I’ve got bungee lines on mine to give some shock protection to gusts of wind. Also, learn some simple knots (reef knot, round turn and two half hitches, bowline)
I think I would have lost my mind. Patience you have is unbelievable. 👍
It's surprising what the little Lanshan II can deal with, as long as you make some upgrades. I replace the plastic hooks with metal ones from Z-Packs, used 4 Delta ground anchors on the 4 corners, lowered my poles so the doors and sides of tent were touching the ground, and finally some Easton alloy 9" nails for the guys. It will never be as solid as a free-standing, but then again I'd never take the Lanshan out on the tops in the dead of winter. Good video.
Having had to deal with that kind of weather before, although with a dome tent with regular poles inserted in sleeves, there are a couple of things you could do to make your tent a little sturdier.
First, all guy-lines for the rain-fly should be made double. Yes, it means bringing extra stakes since you're staking two lines instead of one. This gives much better support in heavy wind since each line is staked in a different spot. Instead of a line going straight out, which is fine under normal circumstances, you stake two lines out at angles. This works for every area of the rain-fly. If necessary, you can modify the web-straps on the corners (it may take a little sewing) to make a loop. That way you can attach two lines to those areas.
Second, since you had trouble with the poles falling inward, find a way to attach guy-lines to those as well. One staked line per pole should do, and the line doesn't have to go outside of the vestibule flaps. Two would be better, set at angles, but that would interfere with getting in and out of the tent.
While I've never used a tent that used hiking poles before, I have used the double guy-lines for my rain-fly, and even on the tent itself...both for the wall lines and the normal stake areas (I took short lines and attached them to the normal stake loops). I've also used double lines for tarps.
By the way, I just stumbled across your videos a few days ago, and have been enjoying them. I haven't watched them all yet, but I will. You are wonderful. :)
This is why I took extra pegs and yes, extra guys for the Lanshan 2, and yes thankfully had loads of carabiners, but my rams head clips didn't break..cos yes, you can run extra guys or deeper better pegs in for support. Also you need to peg out the guys as far as possible and also keep the tent really low - lower than than 120/125xm the instructions say - baggier inside but less wind underneath.
Great review, appreciate the effort! I have the Lanshan 1+ and so far I've found it difficult to get a good pitch with it, lots of faffing and adjusting needed. I was advised to seam seal around the guy out points and around the seams near the pole cup. Been in 20-25mph wind and rain without any water getting in though it does collect round the bottom of the fly on the outside sometimes - probably pitch related? Quite a lot of "flappage" though. As regards pegging you might try running a second peg about a foot or so farther out from the first, linked by a loop. Should stop the first peg rotating out under pressure.
Thank you :) I have the Lanshan Pro1 and I had the exact same thing happen with it! Like it sags a lot in the rain and then the water pools around the bottom on the outside. I made the mistake of trying to push the puddles off from the inside and because I was on a slope, all the water came flooding through the mesh at the bottom into the tent haha 😬(it's in this video czcams.com/video/P78Jl7e0ERc/video.html) Yes someone else has said this about pegging, I will try it, thanks! Have a great weekend ~ Claire
You are such a tough cookie ... unbelievable and awesome how you face and explore those situations!
Claire, another great video!!! I believe your great videos help lots of people!!!!
Maybe look for some Delta pegs if you need some extra security they work differently from regular pegs and aren't massively big but do work.
I mean any tent under that wind is a nightmare to set. Doesn’t mean what brand it is
I’ve had one or two nights in a tent in horrendous winds with pole’s breaking so I know what you went through Claire 10/ 10 for perseverance.
Have a great Christmas 🎄 😊
Claire is always so welcoming, cheerful yet elegant and classy
What a great channel. I only discovered this channel a couple of weeks ago and i"m finding that I keep on coming back to view it more than the other channels that i'd usually watch.
Claire, with all the kit that you've tested so far, have you compiled a list of the trustiest items that you favour above all other products/brands?
Helloo, thanks so much and welcome to my lil channel, I'm so glad you like it :)
Ooo.. good question. I'd say so far my most reliable bits of kit have been my Alpkit Hunka bivi bags (have kept me warm & dry in many leakage / wet situations), my Rab sleeping bags (I have the 500, 900 and recently got the 1100 for winter) and my Thermarest mats (xterm & xlite) have all been very trusty and just keep going
Have a lovely weekend :) Claire 🐻
You already know how to make this work Claire! You've shown us you can pitch a tarp so use the same methodology. There's all those conifer trees close by. Set a tensioned ridge line at the correct hight then tension the top corners of the tent on to that with prussic loops. Guy ropes can be secured to other trees if necessary. Sorted with a pocket full of paracord.
That was a serious workout for both tent and camper. Good practical advice.
You are very sweet. And the tent is very much going in the scrap heap. Can’t tolerate a tent that leaks or collapses once it’s deployed. To me, a tent has a couple of reasons to exists, keep me dry. Give me shelter. I would rather carry an extra pound of two and have the confidence that my equipment won’t fail. But that’s just me and it would not make an entertaining video. You are a rock star. Your cheer is infectious. Thanks for sharing.
I agree. My philosophy is - if your pack is too heavy, get stronger, don't compromise on gear (within reason, of course).
In my opinion, having camped tons of times in my life, it's 100% worth spending extra on a well reviewed tent. You can't put a price tag on the peace of mind you get knowing that your tent won't leak and will stand up to the elements.
For all the time I've spent in cheaper tents that didn't hold up or were too heavy for long trips, I agree. The best advice is to test a tent on smaller trips, then gain your trust before heading out in real bad weather for the first time.
Amen to that!
Yep. 100% agree
Bloody Oath, you get what you pay for. I’ve got terra nova and hilleberg tents i’ve had for decades with no problems 🤟🏻
Wish I could afford a Terra Nova or Hilleberg or even Durston X-Mid. But really it's a choice between not going camping for several years to save up, or getting a Lanshan 1 oe 2. In fact you can get both and several inners for the prices of those tents.
Love how poised and polite you are during bad weather
Haha thanks! Very British maybe :)
I’m just contemplating buying some gear and getting back into hike camping after a few years absence. I appreciate your dedication to giving a well balanced review of the tent, well done. Having watched your perseverance and work arounds I know I can trust your opinion and you therefore have a subscriber. Thanks very much.
Brilliant video Claire. If any company out there want to test there equipment to the max, they should definitely send it to you. Well done for battling the extremes, hats off to you. Or your mad lol. Keep Loving the Adventure Claire.
Haha thank you Asa! Yes deffo a lil mad 🤪 I find it helps to be sometimes. Have a most wonderful weekend Sir 🌿 Claire 🐻
Tents like this are more trouble than they're worth - even during the summer months. I would always prefer to carry an extra kilo or so and have a tent that is totally reliable in any condition. You just can't trust the mountainous weather in the UK.
Now that's commitment! The list of advices is spot on I reckon! Thanks for this review I have yet to get out on the trail with mine haha
Despite the weather, fantastic endurance on your part. Definitely a summer tent. Keep up the awesome adventures, hopefully some no rain in your future. Stay smiling and stay that beautiful you. Tim
Aw thanks Tim yes I could do with a dry one 😄 hope you're having a good week!
Love your videos! Good training! Thanks Claire!
Yeah! I really looove this weather!
Wow that’s some dedication Claire. Love it ❤
Claire, you are a true champion! Most people skip camping in this kind of weather. Thanks for the tip of using multiple pegs. We have the highest prevailing winds here in Oklahoma than anywhere in the USA. The first night out with my Durston X Mid Pro 2, I had to put heavy rocks on a couple of the pegs due to 45 MPH gusts. It never budged! That was with six stakes only. So, It did hold up far better than the Lanshan 2.
You always look fresh faced and calm no matter how bad the weather is! Respect! 🇮🇪
I agree with everything you mentioned here regarding the shortcomings of the Lanshan. And I also love mine and will continue to use it but never in bad weather. I've used it in moderate weather and found its limits already.
Hi yep same here, still love it regardless! For summer. In nice weather 😄 Hope you're having a nice week :)
Love to watch your videos! Thanks for give me energy buster
Well done Claire, for sticking with it. Another enjoyable video ATB
Wonderful video thanks for sharing ! Well done for persevering in spite of the obstacles , your observations and experience will help others love the extra pegs etc your tips appreciated
Your patience is astounding! Cheers!
A great review, I was considering this for my summer tent for fast and light camps, having second thoughts now.
I'll keep looking 😉
God bless your perseverance Claire😁Fantastic vid!
Cool calm and collected! That is indeed putting the tent through the wringer. I'm certainly in a better position to make a well founded choice for a thru' hike tent. Thank you for your commitment to endure atrocious weather to see us fully informed.
Now that's a proper adventure. Congrats for filming it all!
Great and honest review. Being a good weather (based on forecast) weekend camper and only in the warmest part of the year, I still think my Lanshan 2 is the right choice. I have bought more pegs, because those tiny ones coming with the tent don't cut it, and I will get replacements for the plastic parts. I always bring paracord, which can fix most problems that carabiners fix, but will still bring carabiners now. Great tip. I hate the thought of bringing a bivy bag (both for space and weight and the fact that it locks in some humidity from your body), and I am surprised that the water comes in. I do have a light ground cloth, and hope that may protect the tent bottom from some leakage.
Anyway, I am impressed with the weather you endure, and I am excited to see what tent you choose to replace it.
I watch your content.
You really do the hard work, young lady.
You really do the gear testing that armchair campers would like to do.
I really do appreciate what you go through.
My God Claire, the things that you put yourself through is astonishing. Love and light from Bonnie Scotland. Paul.
Here in the USA, in Wyoming, we trekked the Wind River Range for our 1st ever Mtn trip back in the summer of 1975 for 10 days. On that trek .... BJ was out-fitted for 35 lbs and I @ 45lbs. We climbed, traversed steep snow fields, and bushwhack much of the trip.above 10,000' elevation Even had high winds >50mph along with 2" of hail. We survived ... BUT .... we later chose equipment that added a bit more weight to our packs for the safety side of things. We also took an early retirement and trekked through western Canadian Mtns & the western US mtns from 1978 - 1980. 2 years of adventure. BUT ... as we got older ... the mileage has dropped while the weight has stayed about the same. Then by 2000 we made our BIG change ..... and started raising Llamas. Trained many of them to the Master Packer category of the US Pack Llama Assoc. Had a business of renting them out. Now in 2020's .... THEY are handling the weight and we have increased our mileage once again, even after multiple bionic additions to our bodies. Interesting to see Claire go through some of the same trials and errors we've been through over the years.
Awesome work as ever thanks Claire!
A truly awesome demo and workout of the tent! On the thick grass it looks like some staking modifications will have to be explored, extra long and/or screw in of some sort. That's extra weight of course.
You are one special person Claire...great respect.... .keep on keepin on!!
Great review Claire, i think despite a few problems you had i will still be going for this tent as i feel it did great in such difficult conditions and you did great as well, best regards, Ste.
Happy to discover Claire and her outdoor adventures!🌶🌶🌶
Great review Claire, it could help someone to avoid being caught out. Well done for enduring this 🙂💞
Thank you Mick :D have a lovely eve!
Hi Claire excellent review some very useful tips as well for seasoned campers and novice campers great video.
Great advice Claire , Thanks.