This is extremely validating for my current bike build. I was going back and forth between 1x vs 2x on my Lynskey GR300 build and ultimately decided to go with a 1x11 GRX812 40T with a SRAM 10-42 cassette. 3T has a blog post where they tested this and it was compatible and should be fine for me in mostly flat northern IL. I was originally going to go with a 42T chainring but I saw a deal on a GRX 40T chainring with crank for $60 that was too good to pass up. If I decide that the gearing isn't enough I plan to upgrade to a 44T chainring up front. I plan to make this my do it all bike with a second set of wheels with a more road focused cassette and tires after seeing how the 1x goes and figuring out the chainring that works best for me. I am currently riding a 20+ year old 3x (52-42-30) 11-25 Trek 2000 with 28mm Gravel King Tires on crushed limestone and paved paths. I prefer path riding now due to the extra safety but I'm open to getting back on the road if I start to do local group rides. The bike is brutal on the limestone but quite smooth on pavement. After running my current setup and the 1x options through a gearing calculator I realized I wouldn't actually be giving up much looking at where I am currently spending most of my time at with the chainring (42), the cassette, and speeds I'm traveling at. Plus I'm mostly riding alone. I've still got a handful of parts to order and have in hand before I build but I expect to complete the assembly in August and I'm very excited about it.
The new xplr garbaruk 10-44 cassette really helps the gaps in the harder gears but still gives the 44. I have it on my roadie with a 46t and i can keep up on group rides. On gravel 42t 10-44 has been perfect for my preferred gravel
i live in the Allegany mountains in va , took my first ride on my new bike today on Gravel of course lol 49mm tires or 1.9 ,outain bike 29, I did 2by with 11-34 12 speed dose just fine and I have some REAL hills lol , thanks for your work sir
I have a Lynskey GR pro with the axs 10 - 52 mullet. The range seems more than adequate. I do notice the gap between some of the gears in the middle of the cassette. I have not done any high speed stuff so I don’t know about the gaps lower in the cassette. I do really like the simplicity of the 1x. And the electric shifting is worth it.
I bought a road frameset and decided to go with 1x on it. I have much preferred it on my gravel bike, so decided to give it a try. I went with a mullet setup like on my gravel bike. I went with a 46 on the front. The 46/10 is supposed to be the same as a 50/11. I have liked it so far. I also went with a 10-50 cassette as I felt a 52 was overkill.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I am looking to buy my first bike and get into bicycling and want it to kind of be that do it all bike. So appreciate others sharing their experiences and journey. Still undecided, but probably going for some gravel bike allowing 45mm tires. Unsure of 1 or 2 by chainring, aluminum or carbon frame, if mudguards and touring mounts matter to me....and how much money I can agree with myself to part with. 😅 Probably going to have a second carbon wheelset with 32mm slicks. I'll keep figuring it out 😊 Greetings from Sweden.
Hi Stellar, what an awesome setup you got there, always had a secret crush on those Lightspeed bikes. I was wondering, do you have a lot of toe overlap when you run bigger tires, or any tires for that matter? I’built up a 1 x Gravel bike recently, Seaboard Gr02 frame with Dura Ace 11 speed, 44 tooth front, and 42tooth cassette, using XTR rear mech. We don’t have much gravel over here in Singapore where I’m watching from. There are so many points I could agree with in there, definitely wider tires. Running Panaracers SK’s 50mm front and 43 rear, maxed out. Great terrain where you live :)
Thank you, Singapore is a great country much cleaner than what we have here. Been there twice wish I could stay longer. There’s about an inch toe overlap with this Perelli gravel M 45mm tire (I’m 5.4 barefoot). I’m used to it and aware when it crosses, but that’s one of the reasons I ride gravel in tennis shoes most of the time. Happy riding👍🏻
@@organicbikepacking7312 Thanks for the reply, nice hearing back from you. Yeah Singapore is pretty awesome, been her about 14 years, still love it. I experienced some toe overlap on a Specialized road bike I had a while back, that felt so bad, I ended getting rid of it. Then recently I experienced this on a gravel bike. I guess the slacker the geometry, the less chance of this, but like you said, tennis shoes or at least not clipped in. Thanks again Stellar, hope I got your name right :)
10:58 hi from romania. been blessed with both very flat and pretty brutal tho very nice climbs nearby, couldn t ask for more. the bears what i have to watch out for with bear spray. next time when and if i build up my bike with newer components, i ll make sure i got a big x2. i m for that down hill speed, to be able to keep pedaling even after going 70 kmh and in the same time have the ability to ride the steepest hills without having to push my bike. nice video. i m there with you, personally as long as you don t compete and are a pro, carbon is pretty overkill. it s not a necessity. also steel and titanium is real. i m looking forward to get a set of very road specific wheels, swap them out kinda like you said depending on what i want to do. should help on the long road rides and if i want to do it for the higher average speed and stats.
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Current outdoor bike is 1x only CX-gravel given to me from sitting in CX series team storage since 2017-18. Required a lot of work to be fully workable again over last year plus. Still getting use to 1x after decade plus with 2x and finding the it limited at the ends in one way based chainring- cassette setup. Go faster but lose on climbing, or get climbing but lose top speed with 1x or big jumps between cogs for range in back. Local area is gmr-baldy with IE hills border the OC and San Gabriel valley. But 2x FD sram axs will limit tire clearance on frame with only 40mm room in the back even more. Not sure with grx or other systems. Stuck with 1x for now but thinking of trying 2x.
For something like Mt Baldy, steady but not punchier climbs, the 2x feels better to me in terms of cadence(I’ve ridden the same bike with 2x and 1x groups). But when it come to loose dirt or chunkier stuff, I’d prefer 1x. I think grx 2x has more room than 40mm?
Nice video.. i have a 1x 11 11-42 x 38 (OEM was 40, but I need 38 for hills bike packing) I am considering ratio technology 12x simply for cost rather than full mullet setup. Thiughts? Subbed.
Thanks for the sub👍🏻. Personally for bikepacking I’d prefer 12 speed. Not sure about cost wise really depends, but if you pack a lot, the 12s will make a huge difference in cadence. Happy riding.
I don't get it: what's the problem with more front chainrings? I was used the 3x9 on the MTB and am happy with tge 3x10 on the road bike. Lots of hills around here. I would not like to miss the fine steps between the gears.
I will always run 2x; I like more increments in my gearing. I am a big guy, not getting any younger. As Mike, of Mike’s Bikes in San Rafael famously told a big guy looking at titanium vs. aluminum: “You want to shave grams off your bike? Eat less cheese”
@@kevinluviano6480 weight? The 3x10 has 13 sprockets. The 1x12 also. With 3x10 there are 30 gears. Without the overlap there are 24 different ratios. I will stay with the 3x10 :-)
Hello from Ukraine! my question is: - Can you do more detailed video about parts ( wheels, groupset, seat and etc.) (I creating my titanium gravel, and trying to decide what parts will fit my frame and be best solution)) And about my groupset: I use shimano GRX 810 (it stock with my frame) - it feels realy cool! (if compare with my old shimano 105 bike) aspecially Shadow+ technology ( hate when chain hit frame 😖)
Basically split your decisions in tiers you have basic stuff and you also need to consider compatibility -Wheels : do you want aluminium or carbon wheels, deep sections or not, the hub type you will choose is based on what you need My recommandation for aluminium wheels : Dt swiss cr 1400 or gr 1400 dicut Do you want a mullet transmission or not : if yes you can use gx axs or xplr rear derailleur with whatever crankset you want most often 40 or 44t probably sram apex 1x with dub wide is a good place to start. The seat is very personal just get a bike fitting and they'll usually recommend saddles if you ask, otherwise Bike24 has a 30 day tryout period for saddles which is really nice.
You should stick to 1x. I own 5 1x bikes after dropping 1 too many 2x chains. I live in SoCal, very mountainous and hilly and need the quick climbing gears of a 1x. If you’re friends are dropping you on group rides, get new friends 😂. I don’t ride with bike snobs who feel every ride is a competition. Riding should be fun, not trying to struggle to keep up. 99% of the world ride their bikes for fun, not speed, and they do it all on a 1x. Just check out the Netherlands, Asia and Africa. Stay safe.
This is extremely validating for my current bike build. I was going back and forth between 1x vs 2x on my Lynskey GR300 build and ultimately decided to go with a 1x11 GRX812 40T with a SRAM 10-42 cassette. 3T has a blog post where they tested this and it was compatible and should be fine for me in mostly flat northern IL. I was originally going to go with a 42T chainring but I saw a deal on a GRX 40T chainring with crank for $60 that was too good to pass up. If I decide that the gearing isn't enough I plan to upgrade to a 44T chainring up front. I plan to make this my do it all bike with a second set of wheels with a more road focused cassette and tires after seeing how the 1x goes and figuring out the chainring that works best for me. I am currently riding a 20+ year old 3x (52-42-30) 11-25 Trek 2000 with 28mm Gravel King Tires on crushed limestone and paved paths. I prefer path riding now due to the extra safety but I'm open to getting back on the road if I start to do local group rides. The bike is brutal on the limestone but quite smooth on pavement. After running my current setup and the 1x options through a gearing calculator I realized I wouldn't actually be giving up much looking at where I am currently spending most of my time at with the chainring (42), the cassette, and speeds I'm traveling at. Plus I'm mostly riding alone. I've still got a handful of parts to order and have in hand before I build but I expect to complete the assembly in August and I'm very excited about it.
Awesome, thanks for sharing. Happy riding.
The new xplr garbaruk 10-44 cassette really helps the gaps in the harder gears but still gives the 44. I have it on my roadie with a 46t and i can keep up on group rides. On gravel 42t 10-44 has been perfect for my preferred gravel
Awesome, good to know. Thanks.
I have two 1x’s. The 1x9 leaves me wanting. The 1x11 gives me the gearing that suits my riding style - mainly bike packing.
I agree with the 1x11. Happy riding👍🏻
Happy with XPLR on the rolling hills of MN and my decent amateur legs on my GR300.
Awesome, Team T.I.🤜🏻
i live in the Allegany mountains in va , took my first ride on my new bike today on Gravel of course lol 49mm tires or 1.9 ,outain bike 29, I did 2by with 11-34 12 speed dose just fine and I have some REAL hills lol , thanks for your work sir
Thanks for sharing and congrats on your new bike. Happy riding👍🏻
I have a Lynskey GR pro with the axs 10 - 52 mullet. The range seems more than adequate. I do notice the gap between some of the gears in the middle of the cassette. I have not done any high speed stuff so I don’t know about the gaps lower in the cassette. I do really like the simplicity of the 1x. And the electric shifting is worth it.
Pro GR looks like a sweet bike from bikepacking to gravel riding to road riding. Happy riding👍🏻
I bought a road frameset and decided to go with 1x on it. I have much preferred it on my gravel bike, so decided to give it a try. I went with a mullet setup like on my gravel bike. I went with a 46 on the front. The 46/10 is supposed to be the same as a 50/11. I have liked it so far. I also went with a 10-50 cassette as I felt a 52 was overkill.
Awesome, happy riding.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I am looking to buy my first bike and get into bicycling and want it to kind of be that do it all bike. So appreciate others sharing their experiences and journey.
Still undecided, but probably going for some gravel bike allowing 45mm tires. Unsure of 1 or 2 by chainring, aluminum or carbon frame, if mudguards and touring mounts matter to me....and how much money I can agree with myself to part with. 😅 Probably going to have a second carbon wheelset with 32mm slicks. I'll keep figuring it out 😊
Greetings from Sweden.
Awesome, thanks for sharing. If you plan on touring a lot, generally I think the 2x offers a lower gear ratio (easier to on the climbs).
glad to be a fan of yours from cambodia b
Thank you brother, glad to have you here👍🏻
Hi Stellar, what an awesome setup you got there, always had a secret crush on those Lightspeed bikes. I was wondering, do you have a lot of toe overlap when you run bigger tires, or any tires for that matter? I’built up a 1 x Gravel bike recently, Seaboard Gr02 frame with Dura Ace 11 speed, 44 tooth front, and 42tooth cassette, using XTR rear mech. We don’t have much gravel over here in Singapore where I’m watching from. There are so many points I could agree with in there, definitely wider tires. Running Panaracers SK’s 50mm front and 43 rear, maxed out. Great terrain where you live :)
Thank you, Singapore is a great country much cleaner than what we have here. Been there twice wish I could stay longer. There’s about an inch toe overlap with this Perelli gravel M 45mm tire (I’m 5.4 barefoot). I’m used to it and aware when it crosses, but that’s one of the reasons I ride gravel in tennis shoes most of the time. Happy riding👍🏻
@@organicbikepacking7312 Thanks for the reply, nice hearing back from you. Yeah Singapore is pretty awesome, been her about 14 years, still love it. I experienced some toe overlap on a Specialized road bike I had a while back, that felt so bad, I ended getting rid of it. Then recently I experienced this on a gravel bike. I guess the slacker the geometry, the less chance of this, but like you said, tennis shoes or at least not clipped in. Thanks again Stellar, hope I got your name right :)
Awesome, I agree. It’s Sela, not a very common name lol
I’m going to convert to a 10-51 cassette set up in the near future, makes hill climbing so much better…
Awesome welcome to the Mullet group👍🏻
am jealous man lol ..... Enjoy it .. Awesome bike
Thank you.
Im looking at a litespeed toscano frameset just not too many reviews glad to see something in litespeed
This frame has held up really well after years of ridden in terms of cosmetic and durability.
same thing in XPLR.
10:58 hi from romania.
been blessed with both very flat and pretty brutal tho very nice climbs nearby, couldn t ask for more. the bears what i have to watch out for with bear spray.
next time when and if i build up my bike with newer components, i ll make sure i got a big x2. i m for that down hill speed, to be able to keep pedaling even after going 70 kmh and in the same time have the ability to ride the steepest hills without having to push my bike.
nice video. i m there with you, personally as long as you don t compete and are a pro, carbon is pretty overkill. it s not a necessity. also steel and titanium is real.
i m looking forward to get a set of very road specific wheels, swap them out kinda like you said depending on what i want to do. should help on the long road rides and if i want to do it for the higher average speed and stats.
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Thank you for sharing. I appreciate the info👍🏻. Happy riding.
Current outdoor bike is 1x only CX-gravel given to me from sitting in CX series team storage since 2017-18. Required a lot of work to be fully workable again over last year plus. Still getting use to 1x after decade plus with 2x and finding the it limited at the ends in one way based chainring- cassette setup. Go faster but lose on climbing, or get climbing but lose top speed with 1x or big jumps between cogs for range in back. Local area is gmr-baldy with IE hills border the OC and San Gabriel valley. But 2x FD sram axs will limit tire clearance on frame with only 40mm room in the back even more. Not sure with grx or other systems. Stuck with 1x for now but thinking of trying 2x.
For something like Mt Baldy, steady but not punchier climbs, the 2x feels better to me in terms of cadence(I’ve ridden the same bike with 2x and 1x groups). But when it come to loose dirt or chunkier stuff, I’d prefer 1x. I think grx 2x has more room than 40mm?
Nice video.. i have a 1x 11 11-42 x 38 (OEM was 40, but I need 38 for hills bike packing) I am considering ratio technology 12x simply for cost rather than full mullet setup. Thiughts? Subbed.
Thanks for the sub👍🏻. Personally for bikepacking I’d prefer 12 speed. Not sure about cost wise really depends, but if you pack a lot, the 12s will make a huge difference in cadence. Happy riding.
simple answer is Yes
I don't get it: what's the problem with more front chainrings?
I was used the 3x9 on the MTB and am happy with tge 3x10 on the road bike.
Lots of hills around here. I would not like to miss the fine steps between the gears.
weight, probably design
I will always run 2x; I like more increments in my gearing. I am a big guy, not getting any younger. As Mike, of Mike’s Bikes in San Rafael famously told a big guy looking at titanium vs. aluminum: “You want to shave grams off your bike? Eat less cheese”
There’s nothing wrong with more or less chainrings. A lot has to do with personal preference, environment, compatibility, etc…
@@kevinluviano6480 weight? The 3x10 has 13 sprockets. The 1x12 also.
With 3x10 there are 30 gears. Without the overlap there are 24 different ratios.
I will stay with the 3x10 :-)
Hello from Ukraine!
my question is:
- Can you do more detailed video about parts ( wheels, groupset, seat and etc.) (I creating my titanium gravel, and trying to decide what parts will fit my frame and be best solution))
And about my groupset: I use shimano GRX 810 (it stock with my frame) - it feels realy cool! (if compare with my old shimano 105 bike) aspecially Shadow+ technology ( hate when chain hit frame 😖)
just to be clear; are you welding the frame yourself?
@@drill_fiend1097 no 🤣 not welding:) I bought it in Pride Bikes 😅
@@mkopaev Hello, I did a short rundown on this bike. This link is here czcams.com/video/U-kUXi4kH9k/video.htmlsi=H6016xxZtvDn3BQ-
Basically split your decisions in tiers you have basic stuff and you also need to consider compatibility
-Wheels : do you want aluminium or carbon wheels, deep sections or not, the hub type you will choose is based on what you need
My recommandation for aluminium wheels : Dt swiss cr 1400 or gr 1400 dicut
Do you want a mullet transmission or not : if yes you can use gx axs or xplr rear derailleur with whatever crankset you want most often 40 or 44t probably sram apex 1x with dub wide is a good place to start.
The seat is very personal just get a bike fitting and they'll usually recommend saddles if you ask, otherwise Bike24 has a 30 day tryout period for saddles which is really nice.
2 x 10 : always.
You should stick to 1x.
I own 5 1x bikes after dropping 1 too many 2x chains. I live in SoCal, very mountainous and hilly and need the quick climbing gears of a 1x.
If you’re friends are dropping you on group rides, get new friends 😂. I don’t ride with bike snobs who feel every ride is a competition. Riding should be fun, not trying to struggle to keep up. 99% of the world ride their bikes for fun, not speed, and they do it all on a 1x. Just check out the Netherlands, Asia and Africa. Stay safe.
lol you have your point. Happy riding.
I dont like 1 by