Transformers' Creatively Compromised Character(s)
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- čas přidán 8. 12. 2023
- A vindictive hit piece about Jetfire, Jetstorm and Safeguard from Transformers Animated! Firestorm is way more based!!
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Oof, sorry about the Japanese pronunciations! I sat there for a while trying to match Google Translate's pronunciations as best I could, but apparently Google's results were FAR from accurate. Good to know!
At least these twins were a lot more popular than the live action movie versions, which we don’t talk about.
Core you Jin from Gao Gay Gerr
I was about to comment, there’s clips on CZcams that could’ve helped only maybe 2 minutes at most per clip
Why were you trying to match google translate's pronounciations? gaogaigar is an anime the clips of these characters names are on youtube lol
but good video
best advice is to just watch the intro or a couple of clips of the bank animation because they yell it all the time
I'm always caught off guard by how tall the twins are. I keep thinking they're around Bumblebee or Wasp size, just funny little guys. But they stand shoulder to shoulder with Prowl and Jazz, and are only a little shorter than Sentinel. It feels somehow wrong to me that they're that big.
Their jets....
Jets are huge
I agree they feel like they should be much smaller, when you say that they're only a little shorter than sentinel that just seems so wrong 😭
@@gabrielgaming1102Not always. At least, not when it comes to Transformers.
It is surprising, but I always interpreted it as a byproduct of being infused with Starscream's CNA. Since he is so freakishly tall by autobot standards, it gave the twins a growth spurt.
They did absolutely nothing but I still am absolutely obsessed with them they’re so silly
This is the perfect summation of them.
My headcanon is that the combined form WAS called Firestorm, but Sentinel or Magnus had it changed for propaganda reasons.
“We are calling ourself ‘Firestorm,’ it fits no?”
“Hmm… nah, not marketable enough! You need to sound like a safeguard against cybertronian enemies.. Hey, that gives me an idea”
@@beywheelzhater8930 the fact you got their personalizes so perfect his awesome
I’ve had no problem with the name “Safeguard,” but “Firestorm” sounds absolutely badass, and much more fitting to these characters. It’s a shame DJW wasn’t able to use that name.
He'd probably have to get permission from DC first
Couldn't they have just added Autobot in front of it, Like tjey do something similar with "Autobot ratchet", why not "Autobot Firestorm"?
They should've just called him Stormfire.
I was thinking the same thing.
How about "Jetguard"
Or FireFlight
Or JetJet
@@kidprime6863 that one doesn't work
>GaoGayGer
Absolutely livid, you'll be seeing the coastguard at your door for this minor misspelling
Looks like I made my comment a little too late
It's also technically a continuity error for Ratchet of all the Autobots to exclaim "No Autobot can fly!" when he's fully aware Omega Supreme exists.
It's not continuity error since Omega was built for that function while autobots functionally cant fly in this universe
can't believe i never noticed that. oh. my god.
I always assumed that Ratchet was referencing to a veto from part of the higher ranks of the Autobots; Since there's no militar vehicle among them (Possible because the ones with militaristic alternative modes ended up trying to taking the planet) and we have the case of some Autobots modding themselves (Like Warpath changing his sonar to a cannon) during the war being super dangerous for any semblance of order in Cybertron.
@@8ball180 You literally just confirmed why it's a continuity error while arguing that it's not. Omega Supreme was built specifically for that function and is an Autobot therefore an Autobot who can fly contradicting the statement that no Autobot can fly. The only way you can get away with making the claim "No Autobot can fly." is if you don't already have prior knowledge of Omega Supreme. Literally any other Autobot could have said that and it wouldn't be a continuity error cause if I remember right they didn't know about Omega Supreme yet, but Ratchet knew about Omega the entire series so why is he surprised?
@@RialVestro You are technically correct but Ratchet has reason to surprised since it was a non Omega sentinel with a flying mode. The Omega sentinels though autobots by faction are established to be quite different from normal Cybertronians being more akin to sapient wmds
Calling a transformers name bad is like calling wrestling staged
While this is true, they felt it didn't fit, Firestorm would have been more badass
This statement honestly goes both ways, either "NO ITS NOT STAGED SHUT UP" to "yeah, it's totally staged"
It staged but in the way a play is staged because the pain for the most part is 100% real
@@arran4285the wrestling is fake but the athletics are very real
Safeguard really isn't that bad of a name IMO, though I agree it doesn't suit them. IDK why they couldn't come up with something more inventive than "Firestorm." There's so many other potentially better ones. Fireflight, Tag Team, Resurgence, Third Wind (a play on 'second wind'), Skyguard. None of those are in use as far as I know. I like the twins a lot, but they show just didn't know WTF to do with them.
Probably cause firestorm is a DC character.
If Firestorm doesn't work, then make it "Flamestorm".
Twin burst maybe? Flare twist?
Stormfire sounds like a good alternative.
I'd love to see these characters come back in a future storyline of some kind.
The idea of Autobot High Command using Starscream as a template for their own seekers is such a cool idea and I'm sad it never got explored on a deeper level.
1:06 "King of the braves GaoGayGer"
Personally, they were my favourite Animated designs. I'd love to see an update of these, with hopefully more poseability in the robot combined form.
It’s pretty pog to see so much behind the scenes details of TFA coming out recently. ✨
I don't think that the name Safeguard is bad and I would like to see an Updated Jetfire and Jetstorm/Safeguard in the Legacy line.
I can honestly imagine the Jettwins Powers on full display if S4 was animated by either Studio Trigger,Flying Bark,Mad House,Titmouse or Powerhouse Animation.
It's surreal to hear you talk about GaoGaiGar
You mean GaoGayGer?
Loved the twins. Firestorm is a cool name
those GaoGaiGar name pronunciations lol
Man, I tried hard on those. I tried to match how Google Translate pronounced them
@@KeyanCarlileTF if the time comes to look into Japanese names again on a mecha series good chance it’s a made up word that google translate probably can’t understand and also good chance the clips exist on CZcams if you look hard enough.
@@KeyanCarlileTFJust remember that unlike English, Japanese letters are only pronounced in one way.
I’ve always wondered why, out of all characters, the twins were some of the only Animated characters with no resemblance to their namesakes. Then you for this video, it’s quite enlightening. I find it funny how after a few years of Jetfire being a significant character in three consecutive shows, as soon as he dropped out of the spotlight they went right back to making his existence utterly confusing
I’m honestly quite curious how their combined form would’ve looked if Jetfire looked more like his Generation 1 counterpart, and Jetstorm his Beast Machines counterpart. Their designs just don’t work imo, but the idea that they could still combine would’ve been neat since (I think) they were the only combiners in Animated
They were, which means they're arguably Animated's Aerialbots. Season 4 would have seen the introduction of Superion, Bruticus and Devastator.
i like the concept of them being twins and combine with each other, but the names need work
I could imagine that it instead of one being a half, it would be more like weaponizers from the war for cybertron toyline.
I want a legacy update to these 2.
"No autobot flies" except for Omega Supreme, Prowl, Bumblebee, and Optimus
Omega supreme was a bot made creation with the intention, Prowl has a jetpack in his robot mode, same for Bumblebee, his boosters don't let them fly in their alt modes, and those were probably installed after they're creation, and they can't fly long distances like the twins, they don't have enough firepower and aren't aerodynamic
Optimus flying came after the twins debut
all of them after they got upgrades that specifically allowed them to fly. no autobots can naturally fly without upgrades like those in the context of the show. you cant be that braindead to not understand that...
@@Blanktester685 wow, I bet you're really popular, with a sense of humour like that
Something I just thought about: I’m surprised they didn’t go with the name “Jetstream” and make it a full naming convention for the pair and their combined form.
Russian accent!? For the longest time, I'd figure they had a more Asian accent. It doesn't help me either when they're also using VAs with high-pitched voices.
Tell me you've never watched GaoGaiGar without telling me you've never watched GaoGaiGar.
Which is really sad seeing it ties directly into G1 Transformers history.
I’d never heard of it before researching this video. Google Translate failed me in regard to the pronunciations.
Please watch it, it’s quite the show.
@@zafool4997 the entire Brave series will give fans of 2000’s transformers flashbacks showing that almost every single show had influence on all of them
@@KeyanCarlileTFGo watch GaiGaiGar and its sequel, Gaogaigar Final. It is one of the most hype mecha shows you will ever see.
Mattel wanted to push Stridor into the He-Man show, and Filmation put it in and set it free. Toy company pushes character into show, showrunners agree their way.
I didn't dislike the Jet twins for the sole reason that it presented in cannon that flying Autobots were being made and, had the show continued, there would likely be more.
Yeah, I would have loved seeing the aerialbots,whirl and maybe wind blade in TFA
@@joelaloggia3475windblade wouldn't be an idea up until the time of the combiner wars prime wars and comics era
Idw sucks good riddance
Jetstorm (TFA) acting like his Beast Machines self would be pretty cool
I always like the Jet twins they always cracked me as a kid
"Creatively Compromised" sums up the entirety of Transformers Animated beautifully.
I love these 2 as a kid
i will never forgive the jet twins just demolishing the dinobots
Well, if they don't want to use "Firestorm" they can always call it "Jetjet"
My only real gripe with them is how easily they beat the Dinobots… you can’t do my favorite Autobot subgroup like that…
Otherwise, I actually like their designs and voice acting, they’re just generally serviceable characters.
I remember having their toys as a kid, but I was too stupid to transform them
I really hope they make a legacy version of these guys, I had the original toys as a kid but they recently broke when getting them out of storage. Need new figures of these!
I always felt like jetfire and jetstorm were kinda underused/had wasted potential, so I clicked on this one pretty fast (also because any day keyan uploads a tfa analysis video is a good day)
Also definitely prefer "firestorm" over "safeguard"
Safeguard was likely chosen as a means to hold onto the trademark for the name. It had been used the previous year for Vector Prime's Mini-Con partner. Firestorm would have been totally awesome, but I don't think Safeguard is terrible.
I love the twins, but damn, I forgot how quickly they were swept to the side. Especially since this was the few times the symmetrical docking, to my knowledge was featured in a American cartoon. Hell I feel like they could've called the combined form Sky fire as a reference to Jet fire's G1 name
It’s so weird seeing a transformers animated themed video in 2023
I always wondered what Transformers animated would have been like if Jetfire and Jetstorm had been part of the main cast as originally planned and what their dynamics would be like with Optimus, Ratchet, Bumbleblee, Prowl and Bulkhead 🤔
would have been cool to have them grow into versions that more resemble the traditional uses of their names!
firestorm is defeated, they lose their groove together, they both train, upgrade, and unlock a new gestalt form a la unicron trilogy that accomodates for their new personalities and bodies.
either that, or have them "grow" and change during a timeskip
GaoGaiGar (gao-guy-gar)
I get why they couldn't use the Firestorm name, because of DC already having a character of that name (although they could have name him Stormfire instead, but that's just me) but the fact that was originally Safeguard's name it would have been really ironic since, the DC's Firestorm's whole deal that he is a fusion of two people. Maybe that was another point of contention lol.
i keep forgetting that these characters even exist to be honest
As a longtime fan of G1 and Armada Jetfire. I don't mind the animated iteration of him, hes a completely different character
They just sat there and looked cool
They only appeared for a small amount? I thought they appeared more. They were some of my favorite characters!
Should've been called jetjet
I love transformers animated but I don’t have any of the toys the reason why I love it is because they made the transformers in that show truely unique and special
i think about these goofballs alot, they have some alien charm to them that burns them into my brain.
especially jetstorm
OMG i had the blue one but never knew it was a combination thingy
I had that experience with one of the train guys from Robots In Disguise 2001.
Me and my brother always loved these 2 characters (we also had the toys at one point when we were like 5 but broke em years ago, still got what's left somewhere) but we always vibed with these 2 because we are also twin :) and I'm planning on shelling out like 90 for these 2 again
As much as I love jetfire he always causes some problems in the background lol
Maybe we could get a commander class Firestorm someday.
They could’ve called him Stormfire if Firestorm was taken and they didn’t like Safeguard
Loved these guys as a kid, It was best birthday gift ever
you know what would have been funny to see, if Shockwave's arrest into prison was shown?
I'm sure that when Shockwave got arrested, he was THAT guy who literally proofread all his prison documents, and pointed out ALL spelling and grammar, and even formal errors in the documents, meanwhile, the clerk being responsible for those documents corrects them according to how Shockwave pointed it out, and grumbles: "I'm dyslexic, you jerk!"
Like, I'm sure that Shockwave is THAT guy. Shockwave doesn't even mean any harm or spite. He just wants things to happen in an orderly and formal manner, even if everyone else would think that Shockwave is trying to spite everyone.
Shockwave correcting the prison staff on how to properly pronounce the sci-fi jargon used to create his cell
“It is a phase 8 electronegative signal disrupting device not a phase 8 electronegator signal disrupting device! It uses a field of negativly charged energon to disturb any radio waves going in or out! How do you not know this?”
Eventually he manages to break out but gets caught resorting every single document on someone’s computer because the mess of files he had to go through to find the prison schematics bothered him
How about wean they combined there name will be skyfire
So... I just realized their combined form looks kinda similar to dreadwing/skyquakes design (mostly in the shoulders)?
some of my favorite characters in TFA, both as a kid and now. always wished they had a bigger role 😔
God my childhood favorite toy, god I read that comic book at least a hundred times
I had the comic and the toys. Didn’t get to see their episode for years.
Great video.
I often forget these two exist at all.
I have a Jetstorm figure, but it's been modified to only change into robot and jet, scrapping the combination
9:36
Sentinel Prime temps Bumblebee to join the Autobot Elite Guard with him. And, Sentinel told Bumblebee to abandoned Sari, Optimus Prime and his Autobots.
And, the Jet Twins, Jetfire and Jetstorm was very curious at their mentor and idol Sentinel.
They could've just called him 'Stormfire'
Cool video
They coulda called Safeguard ‘Skyfire’.
Or JetStream
I just realized that your channel’s profile picture is your onslaught from combaticons
Who gon tell them that safeguard is a name of a soap💀
I really wish people would stop picking on choryujin Junior
Safeguard really is not that bad of a name but it always reminds me of the bath soap that they sell in the Philippines with the same name.
I remember this guy
GOWGAYGER??? Bruh. It’s GOWGUYGAR.
Beast Machines Jetstorm is already very comedic. What would taking TFA Jetstorm in that direction change about him?
I feel like Jetfire and Jetstorm's Fusion Name should've been Jetform. Since they couldn't use Firestorm.
I'm really curious about Animated's development cycle such as the casting decisions. Seriously, who thought it was a good idea for a white person to voice a lead human character of color (yes, I'm talking about Sari)
I have thought about this. Sort of defeated the point of the representation. I’ve never asked anyone about it. I think Tara Strong and Tom Kenny did a phenomenal job as those characters, but it was a bit of a strange choice, especially because their portrayals were so inauthentic. (They literally named her Sari, after an article of clothing. I asked my Indian friend about this and he said it’d be like naming a character from Texas “Cowboy Hat”).
My only reasons for disliking them is that they're chummy with Sentinel and cemented the Dinobots as the "Yamcha" of the series... Oh, and the twincest fan art... They spawned so much of it, ewww... 😰
Twincest? But they’re robots. Robots can’t have sex
Wait, was that Chris Sabat Voicing that Commercial-
Hang on a second; couldn’t they have gotten away with calling the combined form Skyfire or maybe even Hurriconus?
Jetfire + Jetstorm should have been named the obvious "Jetjet"
I don't think that Safeguard is a terrible name, but Firestorm is much cooler. I consider that to be their canon name personally, since nothing else is ever used in the show for their combiner form, and it'd be far from the first time a character had a canon name used in a show vs a marketing name used on their toys due to trademark issues.
Also, would love to see these two come back in a future toyline. Combining is a fun gimmick, but with how the price of Transformers have risen over the years, a full five or six man team can get really expensive for people who aren't die-hard collectors, so having two who can combine would be a much more affordable alternative.
They legit could've just done skyfire (its RIGHT THERE), or just flipped the names to stormfire
Its g ow guy gar
Well.... They couldnt name him Firestorm.
Why couldn't their combined mode be called stormfire
Transformers Animated was awesome
so it just had to be made clear heroes was never going to be an actual line it was to pitch the idea of animated.
0:00 is that chris sabat voicing this commercial?
they could have been called fire-typhoon
Hope you'll have a good day
These two literally did nothing and their combined form is meh, but I honestly love these two in terms of personality and actually really liked their designs individually. I’ve honestly wanted new figures of them individually just cause they look so cool to me.
I always thought those guys where weird
I love how when you mention toy needs and ruining a show, you go to Prime, an already fairly weak show, with Predaking, aka one of the few characters in that show that is treated more than a concept to fiddle around and flounder on the ship deck like 90% of the cast outside of Breakdown, Dreadwing, and Starscream aka half of which died when they developed to a mid point of an arc. A better example would be RID15 and Cyberverse with how the year's gimmicks hindered a show like Season 2 of Cyberverse and Season 3 of RID15 (Also kinda the Starscream arc in Season 2 but that arc feels like it should have been a TV Movie anyway to allow the Decepticon insugrence arc more time to breathe).
Side note I thought there was supposed to be a season 4 but it got canceled from what I heard was the ratings and money issues how I understand it
It was Hasbro re-strategizing how they wanted to handle TV projects. Rather than partnering with CN, they wanted to build their own TV network (the Hub), where they aired Transformers Prime. I have a fairly recent video on this channel called “Animated Season 4: What Should’ve Been” which thoroughly goes over everything about the cancelled fourth season.
Unrelated, but
am I the only one wondering if there is a way to access beast machines soundtrack?
I only saw a-few-second videos where someone trried to extract it
I'm not sure I've seen the OST leaked anywhere but you can get Phat Planet pretty easily.
@@RAFMnBgaming ye, at least the intro is available, hahah TvT
Twins are the bessst
9:26 where are these slides sourced from? I dont recognize these from any of the comics I own, or Return of Blurr
TFNation’s Trial of Megatron presentation!