As much as I agree with some your points but I think you are being unfair to Msholozi & Mngxitama. Out of all ANC presidents, Zuma is the only president who said it in Parliament, while addressing house of traditional leaders, that all black parties in parliament must unite to bring back the land, in response Thabo Mbeki wrote 30 page later accusing Zuma of acting against ANC policy. Even on Andile you are being harsh, it could be because of what he said, accusing you of whatever he accused you of. The honest truth is that even if he wanted to take your advice, do whatever you adviced him to do, that would still require a lot of money, money that Andile does not have. Those are my views
I am a supporter of Msholozi. I really hope to see MKP enters into a 'coalition' with the ANC and co-govern this country. Conversely, what Penuel is saying is true. uBaba Msholozi had countless chances to push the narrative of land reform while he was in a position of power but he never did so. It was only after the birth of the EFF that we were thoroughly informed about land reform and its dynamics. Zuma is an exeptional leader, but he made some leadership errors that simply cannot be justified.
Msholozi's even cabinet even voted against the motion of the EFF for the return of the land without compensation & he didn't put pressure on his ANC to agree with his African brothers to do the right thing.
All your points are perfect until you touch MK or Andile...debate him.. or leave him Alone.. he iz a powerful mind that haz Been under attack by the billionaires stop punching down... az for the MK PARTY.. watch Politics this Year
Let me say something else. The Israelites wasn't white European as portrayed in the movies. Lots but not all of the Israelites was very dark skin. When are the people going to repent and get back to God ? I am white but facts s facts
Pen you a really smart guy but politics is not for you, you too emotional my brother.The fact that you don't understand that Zuma couldn't take decisions by himself he tried to get the ANC on board to implement the policies he believes in including introducing nuclear but they stopped him because the elites and the west knew he was a threat I voted MK and am no Zombie I believe that MK is way forward, I really love your work and great mind but my brother you are too angry and you need to chill and start looking at what's really going on and stop trying to think white people will ever care about black people, we need to support our black leaders and am not saying they perfect but I'd rather have hope in my people than ever thinking white people can do any good for blacks except exploiting them
Zuma brought SA to it's knees as a poor leader and no amount of Zulu support for him can change historical facts. He is in the history books internationally as a crooked leader.
And how is he a crook? What evidence have you seen or have been shown to validate your point? I don't like when people don't discern for themselves but wait for others to give them a skewed view point.
Penuel I love you brother. Thank you for the truth. All we do is talk talk talk and complain about everything but were just sitting and we support these guys making noise and sounding intelligent but doing nothing for us. Me personally I don't care anymore. My focus is on myself and my family. Amen.
I have known Andile Mngxitama since 2008 as Political Science Honours students at Wits University. I have never met a man so committed to his ideas. Andile is a scholar, a true Bikoist! One that pioneered a new social movement, took part in Politics and left the EFF cause it did not match his ideological values, that is being principled. Andile does not have to play in the mainstream to justify his ideas! He also has worked with MK! A published author with his frank talk booklets we used to buy and one of the best Biko books l have read, Biko Lives, that explains the true nature of our society. This man has been working... Give Andile his flowers! He has contributed to this country immensely!
Andile has just also taken his oath of office and an MK Member of Parliament! l wish you well brother and may you continue to stand for what you believe in! Izwe lethu!!!
Actually..you're correct my Brother..Andile should show his true Revolutionary Blood ..and put it into practice..Reskill and teach our youngsters how to develop themselves in order to be ready whenever our Land and Dignity are Revived
Do you know that there is a global shortage of goat meat. People in Ec n KZN keep them for keeps really. Mŕ Adcock has started a project for rural people to raise them and they off take the goat and sell to market. If our leaders were serious this is low hanging fruit they could capitalize on to bring wealth elalini
@mbulelozulu7963 not sure he spoke of it on one of the talks about casino kasinomics. I know it works cause I've been seeing small holder farmer get off-take contracts in Zim there is a company that doing that so I think it's the same idea just with Goats.
How is it education, when this penny dude is seriously injuring the character of His Excellency #PrezCR2024. If he doesn't apologise and refer to the President as His Excellency, he will face a crimen Injuria charge. As spearheaded by the #GoldRandersInc.
The MKs Vision and Mission is to Change the Constitution for the Benefit of Black Race...just wait and see and Please be Patient...Remember Zuma was running the Country with many snakes and with Zuma there was little or no LOADSHEDING at all... But Please my Humble request is that give MK a Chance.
TRUST and TRANSPARENCY Munt'Omdala! MK ayicacile n Mkhulu uZuma is like a Double Agent who is very bitter. Iqiniso lithi NOBODY CARES, uqinisile uPENUEL mayethi asibheke okwethu, unite with our families and BUILD
My guy i need you to flag this point that politics in this country is not democratic. Example anc did not consult its constituency to determine which way to go after failing to be the outright majority. Also critical decisions like going gree in terms of eskom, why do we not make decisions but 400 people in parliament.
Blacks need to stop this tendency of criticize each other with the aim of bad cause but criticize with building each other, we need to put an end on that
Still watching your content and still enjoying. I dont agree with everything you say but i agree with most of what you say. Keep going educating people. You are appreciated. There are racists amongst all different races and from all walks of life. I believe we all need to try to be the best humans that we can be. Keep smiling 🤗
i kind of feel for people who get offended about Orania, coz how much more will they get into their feel when the muslims have finished building their own metropolitan city that will have laws that stipulate that for any person to live and work in that area, they must be of muslim faith!!! those were the terms given to Ramaphosa when he went to middle east nations to ask for funding and investments into the South African economy... but many black folks are still stuck in the past and they think the boer are still the enemy!!! The world and globalization is moving on and going ahead while our black politicians like EFF nabo MK, nabo Andile Mngximtama are misdirecting the masses into thinking the black mans problems solely stem from the white man!!! We can't even run Spaza Shops but they tell us they want us to run mines and banks that are worth billions of rands that will be Nationalized, mcm, what a joke they have turned us out to be!!!
The Markets and media are holding us hostage with the rand and investment and we shouldn't submit to them, we can't fight white media nawe ngapha ubusy throwing negative comments on things you don't understand my brother you have a voice my brother use it for solutions not for being emotional but I watch your shows because I believe you have some good in you but sometimes ay khona uyageja ngane yakwethu
Nobody is holding South Africa hostage, trade and investments are not a human right or something anyone is entitled to, as such if trade with white people doesn't suit you, you can cut ties completely and go the North Korean route. You just don't want to because by doing so you lose a scapegoat, also, you should analyse the South African situation unemotionally first before accusing others of being emotional.
Renaldo will survive this ordeal. The DA was forced to suspend him because of the public outrage. They know their are in a middle of a negotiation process with the ANC and should therefore put their best foot forward. As soon as the negotiation process is complete, and they got what they wanted, they will reinstate Renaldo stating that they couldn't find anything substantial to charge him with.
You also get it right and surely absolutely right with the twofold view of looking at things, its stupidity and lack of comprehension to tell a one sided story of situation, ANC is not without gains and the DA is also not without goodies just like everything else in life.
Valid points there we need to act on what we saying, singing and shouting closing eyes and pray hope Jesus will come back and save us and grant our land back. We need practice black values Ubuntu and Immemo on keeping things happening to gain what is owe or what was taken from us💪AMANDLA! Mfwethu kuleyondawo
You nail it on the characterisation of ANC as an oppressive organization consciously doing everything to keep the majority black people uneducated, unempowered completely disenfranchised.
Another amazing video, thank you Pen. This man truely inspires my everyday life view. You words truely forms my way of thinking and the way i view the world around me and the actions i take. Keep up the great work. Proud Penualist✊🏽
I also don't trust Zumas party. It is driven by bitterness, he was given the chance and didn't do much for South Africans. So his motive behind the party is very questionable and i really hope that he proves me wrong but i deeply doubt
It was nice to hear that people are free to say the F word on CZcams but I find highway unnecessary, especially with the type of content you are handling. This is serious stuff and you'll make history one day. But what I like is that you are not too much. Overall I am drawn to your work
If you want numbers, money or people. The best way is to polarize . No one likes the guy calling for middle ground. There is no drama in it, and people love drama. It makes the feel alive. It makes them feel like they are doing something, channeling their energy.
Hi Mr Penuel The Black Pen ...I wish if you were the advisor or any sort in government directors or in Presidency for that matter...I 'm proud of you..tumbs up Bro...Nicholas Freeze Mavumengwana
Pen, always love your thoughts and open view to things on all things South African. Just want to find out more what you meant by “mobilising a black army and giving the black more weapons on the land issue”. Is that not gonna create huge animosity and violence?
Why are these negotiations not public? Everyone going there is representing us and we must not know what parties are putting on the table and bidding for which portfolio at what cost? We don't need war, we will use the constitution as the weapon. Black people didn't choose to stay in townships we were forced to move there and to make space for Europeans to stay in those places which were not compensated for.
as someone who loves this country, people like you give me hope that the future looks bright only if you focus on things that matter. I have shared your content to some of my white friends and it changes their perspective. God bless you bro
The land is mythical ,like god, its a light of hope thats impossible for most to question or challenge him on, so many fear or love the land issue, a promise no one can deliver on,opportunistic rhetoric, lets see him walk his talk,he cant,hell walk alone.vorentoe pen ,
Penuel please learn what "racism" Is, not liking white people is not racist, it's prejudice sure but not racist, racism requires systematic power and biased law.
That's a specific definition of it, that's not the original definition, and that you can't be racist as a majority in a democratic country just because of the past is a ludicrous argument my friend. So no, you should give him a reason to adopt your specific definition instead of the older one, and then upon doing that we should observe the material realities in our country to observe that the ANC (which the majority elected for three decades) have led to this stagnation for a multitude of reasons, and in electing them the black majority by definition possesses and have possessed systematic power. If they did not they could not have enforced B.E.E, could not enforce race quotas in sports, could not have made the decisions to engage in corruption and then blame white people 30 years later for the failures of state owned enterprises that should've been well maintained and expanded upon successfully after the first two decades of ANC rule. White monopoly capital is one of many variables that have led to the situation in the country, if you think it's the only one the burden of proof is upon you.
Unfortunately everyone is empowered to be racist now: DT is the role model for them to force their agenda. Lomfana weDA udinga one major thing: IMPAMA on both sides 😀
Penuel, you said you believe Gouws is a racist, that's obvious. But what about Rob Hersov? On MacG podcast when Rob asked about what role he had in apartheid he quickly changed the subject, and lied.( Surely he did national service) He also denied that apartheid played a role in the current situation stating "its absolute rubbish , you just need good literacy and numeracy " . I watched with a friend here in Australia , we were shocked how that comment was glossed over . if someone denied the Stolen Generation didn't have an effect on the Aboriginal people , live on TV, there would be public outrage .Its compulsory in our education system to learn the impact colonialism had on Aboriginal people. Yet apartheid ended 30 years ago , and no one picked up on Rob's naive and blatant denial ? Watch over MacG podcast, when Rob first arrived in SA , if you missed it. I understand Andile's outrage at Rob's arrogance!
Dundee in the house.. you're a main O for whatever you say I admire how you stand up for what's on your mind. Do ppl know how tricky it is doing what you do..
Numerous times i said the MK is not going to last and i still assume that is where is going to end and i asked the same question about Zuma regarding the stance of the land.
There is no excuse for Renaldo. He needs to go and be dealt with at the HRC. What aboutisms are not helpful. Good on you engaging and seeing both sides.
@@vanzylbooysen4826 What makes him a racist for pointing out Ronaldo Gouws is a racist? Are you thus implying racism is inevitable and thus that you yourself are a racist? Or are you implying Ronaldo Gouws is not a racist and you agree with that video in which advocated for direct violence against black people? What exactly is it you took offense with? You must be a DA voter.
I like what you said about Zuma, problem with most South Africans is they're quick to forget, why would you believe a word of mouth that changed the moment that mouth had food taken away from it.When people were still part of ANC they were happy with the status quo, they protected each other and until when things go sideways they cry foul and sheeps fall for it.
we get your point of view about Andile, holding him accountable, Black individuality it's a huge problem here in our country, our biggest problem we don't have one ideology, one vision, one mission, one plan. we the only race that doesn't ideology for Africans, we need to go back to a drawing board and draft an ideology for Africans. that Draft would be like our bible. that would change our thinking mostly the coming generations to come, that way we have a generation of people who think alike and have one ideology, one vision, one mission, one plan, this how we can break out this system. the current generation is too f.cked up to be taught anything new. futuristic countries are thinking about the next generations to come, making impact now that connect the next generation
At the end of the day anyone who does not build is USELESS. I admire the Orania initiative - those are thinking and doing people, talk shops like BLF who can't do the same are useless. The IFP should transform itself to become a party of service delivery and initiate the establishment of capacity building institutions- so that that does not become the preserve of the DA and FF+ alone. We need black excellence.
Anytime an African speak about land you are the first one to jump on the comment. We are just watching you.
Kudlalwa ngathi la. There is a bigger agenda we don't know about. This election is just a movie
lol...getting bigger popcorns will help
@@simphiweraymondmajola375 Exactly
As much as I agree with some your points but I think you are being unfair to Msholozi & Mngxitama. Out of all ANC presidents, Zuma is the only president who said it in Parliament, while addressing house of traditional leaders, that all black parties in parliament must unite to bring back the land, in response Thabo Mbeki wrote 30 page later accusing Zuma of acting against ANC policy.
Even on Andile you are being harsh, it could be because of what he said, accusing you of whatever he accused you of. The honest truth is that even if he wanted to take your advice, do whatever you adviced him to do, that would still require a lot of money, money that Andile does not have.
Those are my views
I am a supporter of Msholozi. I really hope to see MKP enters into a 'coalition' with the ANC and co-govern this country. Conversely, what Penuel is saying is true. uBaba Msholozi had countless chances to push the narrative of land reform while he was in a position of power but he never did so. It was only after the birth of the EFF that we were thoroughly informed about land reform and its dynamics. Zuma is an exeptional leader, but he made some leadership errors that simply cannot be justified.
Msholozi's even cabinet even voted against the motion of the EFF for the return of the land without compensation & he didn't put pressure on his ANC to agree with his African brothers to do the right thing.
Tell them Pen, zuma is corrupt and was able to land private jets on key points but could not get us land, he's talking nonsense.
Let's hear what you wanna say about our revolutionary brother, Commissar Andile Mngxitama 🦒🦒
Andile will smoke you for this 😂🔥
All your points are perfect until you touch MK or Andile...debate him.. or leave him Alone.. he iz a powerful mind that haz Been under attack by the billionaires stop punching down... az for the MK PARTY.. watch Politics this Year
What I also said Andile is an intellectual heavyweight
I am stunned that Penuel is making such a shallow point? It's not maths-ing kakuhle😂
@uthembekilemay7816 hawu kanti why vele.. look now Andile iz in Parliament
Pen is a Hersov affiliate. Hersov fears MK. So you know Pens views will be influenced by that.
Prof JJ Tabane sums up the state of South Africa beautifully. ''It's a mess!''.
This zim guy must go make noise in Zimbabwe. He wants to be known in southafrica we dont need him
Let me say something else. The Israelites wasn't white European as portrayed in the movies. Lots but not all of the Israelites was very dark skin. When are the people going to repent and get back to God ? I am white but facts s facts
Who cares whether brown,blue or white
😂😂When I disagree with Peneul, I totally disagree. When I agree, I totally agree.
Your life is tough 😂😂😂
Maybe Andile was disrespectful but he's a true intellectual and knows his stuff
Pen you a really smart guy but politics is not for you, you too emotional my brother.The fact that you don't understand that Zuma couldn't take decisions by himself he tried to get the ANC on board to implement the policies he believes in including introducing nuclear but they stopped him because the elites and the west knew he was a threat I voted MK and am no Zombie I believe that MK is way forward, I really love your work and great mind but my brother you are too angry and you need to chill and start looking at what's really going on and stop trying to think white people will ever care about black people, we need to support our black leaders and am not saying they perfect but I'd rather have hope in my people than ever thinking white people can do any good for blacks except exploiting them
Zuma brought SA to it's knees as a poor leader and no amount of Zulu support for him can change historical facts. He is in the history books internationally as a crooked leader.
Please explain your facts to me how did Zuma bring this country to its knees
And what have the whites done@@dothadance1
And how is he a crook? What evidence have you seen or have been shown to validate your point? I don't like when people don't discern for themselves but wait for others to give them a skewed view point.
@@sibusisiwesiwe1880 Ask anyone who is not Zulu, anyone. Even a 3 year old. They will tell you how 🚿 is a crook.
Penuel I love you brother. Thank you for the truth. All we do is talk talk talk and complain about everything but were just sitting and we support these guys making noise and sounding intelligent but doing nothing for us. Me personally I don't care anymore. My focus is on myself and my family. Amen.
Mfana I sometimes don't agree with your view, but you're spot on here. We as south africans are on our own.
I have known Andile Mngxitama since 2008 as Political Science Honours students at Wits University. I have never met a man so committed to his ideas. Andile is a scholar, a true Bikoist! One that pioneered a new social movement, took part in Politics and left the EFF cause it did not match his ideological values, that is being principled. Andile does not have to play in the mainstream to justify his ideas! He also has worked with MK! A published author with his frank talk booklets we used to buy and one of the best Biko books l have read, Biko Lives, that explains the true nature of our society. This man has been working... Give Andile his flowers! He has contributed to this country immensely!
True unlike Penuel whose stance and beliefs are very questionable.Loud Mouth who thinks highly of his poorself
He is a guy who doesn't mince his words and I like him for that.
@@mpumelelonontsimi3581 True.He is unlike this Pencil
Andile has just also taken his oath of office and an MK Member of Parliament! l wish you well brother and may you continue to stand for what you believe in! Izwe lethu!!!
You totally missed Penuel's point. But anyway, who am I to try and convince worshipers.
Actually..you're correct my Brother..Andile should show his true Revolutionary Blood ..and put it into practice..Reskill and teach our youngsters how to develop themselves in order to be ready whenever our Land and Dignity are Revived
Do you know that there is a global shortage of goat meat. People in Ec n KZN keep them for keeps really. Mŕ Adcock has started a project for rural people to raise them and they off take the goat and sell to market. If our leaders were serious this is low hanging fruit they could capitalize on to bring wealth elalini
Low-hanging fruit! Same with hemp & donkeys.
What's even scary is how hemp regulation is evading long time growers in Pondoland but is accessible to those I Cpt.😢
What is the name of Mr Adcock's organization?
@mbulelozulu7963 not sure he spoke of it on one of the talks about casino kasinomics. I know it works cause I've been seeing small holder farmer get off-take contracts in Zim there is a company that doing that so I think it's the same idea just with Goats.
Lol my bad its alcock. But yea if you search alcock goats kzn projects it'll come up
Viva Andile Viv's mk
Penducation
How is it education, when this penny dude is seriously injuring the character of His Excellency #PrezCR2024.
If he doesn't apologise and refer to the President as His Excellency, he will face a crimen Injuria charge.
As spearheaded by the #GoldRandersInc.
The MKs Vision and Mission is to Change the Constitution for the Benefit of Black Race...just wait and see and Please be Patient...Remember Zuma was running the Country with many snakes and with Zuma there was little or no LOADSHEDING at all...
But Please my Humble
request is that give MK
a Chance.
TRUST and TRANSPARENCY Munt'Omdala! MK ayicacile n Mkhulu uZuma is like a Double Agent who is very bitter. Iqiniso lithi NOBODY CARES, uqinisile uPENUEL mayethi asibheke okwethu, unite with our families and BUILD
Why is he NOT leaving the ANC? Why did he say he's trying to rescue the ANC?
ANC is a People's brand that they resonate with. The issue is the with the current leadership@@godpenuel
The EFF offered him it's vote while he was a president to change the constitution and he didn't do it.
Would definitely pay money to be a part of your work brother! Truly a force to be reckoned with.
There they go with their money trying to buy people like penuel so he can drive their shit narrative in front of us.couldnt you DM him atleast.😂
If only we could have discourse like this we could become a great nation, sadly I don't think that'll ever happen.
It starts with me and you.We treat each other differently, and everything else will follow.
My guy i need you to flag this point that politics in this country is not democratic. Example anc did not consult its constituency to determine which way to go after failing to be the outright majority. Also critical decisions like going gree in terms of eskom, why do we not make decisions but 400 people in parliament.
These are facts 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Blacks need to stop this tendency of criticize each other with the aim of bad cause but criticize with building each other, we need to put an end on that
Still watching your content and still enjoying. I dont agree with everything you say but i agree with most of what you say. Keep going educating people. You are appreciated. There are racists amongst all different races and from all walks of life. I believe we all need to try to be the best humans that we can be. Keep smiling 🤗
I love zuma as well, but we can't put all our hopes on an 82 year old men whose had countless times to change things but never did it
i kind of feel for people who get offended about Orania, coz how much more will they get into their feel when the muslims have finished building their own metropolitan city that will have laws that stipulate that for any person to live and work in that area, they must be of muslim faith!!!
those were the terms given to Ramaphosa when he went to middle east nations to ask for funding and investments into the South African economy... but many black folks are still stuck in the past and they think the boer are still the enemy!!!
The world and globalization is moving on and going ahead while our black politicians like EFF nabo MK, nabo Andile Mngximtama are misdirecting the masses into thinking the black mans problems solely stem from the white man!!! We can't even run Spaza Shops but they tell us they want us to run mines and banks that are worth billions of rands that will be Nationalized, mcm, what a joke they have turned us out to be!!!
Uthethi truth😢
Andile is confusing and hungry
You are hungry
@@user-tl3pg1uw7m😂😂😂
The Markets and media are holding us hostage with the rand and investment and we shouldn't submit to them, we can't fight white media nawe ngapha ubusy throwing negative comments on things you don't understand my brother you have a voice my brother use it for solutions not for being emotional but I watch your shows because I believe you have some good in you but sometimes ay khona uyageja ngane yakwethu
Nobody is holding South Africa hostage, trade and investments are not a human right or something anyone is entitled to, as such if trade with white people doesn't suit you, you can cut ties completely and go the North Korean route. You just don't want to because by doing so you lose a scapegoat, also, you should analyse the South African situation unemotionally first before accusing others of being emotional.
I don't think Renaldo will survive this in the DA, Helen was chatting to BDL last night and hinted that it was not acceptable at all.
Stop lying. That white woman is racist too. She can't say it's unacceptable when she is racist herself.
Renaldo will survive this ordeal. The DA was forced to suspend him because of the public outrage. They know their are in a middle of a negotiation process with the ANC and should therefore put their best foot forward. As soon as the negotiation process is complete, and they got what they wanted, they will reinstate Renaldo stating that they couldn't find anything substantial to charge him with.
You also get it right and surely absolutely right with the twofold view of looking at things, its stupidity and lack of comprehension to tell a one sided story of situation, ANC is not without gains and the DA is also not without goodies just like everything else in life.
White media shuts out Andile Mngxitama for a reason. The best is coming
True and stooges thrive
Valid points there we need to act on what we saying, singing and shouting closing eyes and pray hope Jesus will come back and save us and grant our land back. We need practice black values Ubuntu and Immemo on keeping things happening to gain what is owe or what was taken from us💪AMANDLA! Mfwethu kuleyondawo
He's calling himself Ngamla
Thank you.
I think good work is the philosophy of the EFF they just dont know how to put it.
You nail it on the characterisation of ANC as an oppressive organization consciously doing everything to keep the majority black people uneducated, unempowered completely disenfranchised.
Sometimes I agree with almost everthing you say. This is one of those times.
Another amazing video, thank you Pen. This man truely inspires my everyday life view. You words truely forms my way of thinking and the way i view the world around me and the actions i take. Keep up the great work. Proud Penualist✊🏽
Time for talking is over... Abantu have been talking for 100 Years. We all know what is wrong!
for how long our we going to talk?????
What are you doing since you say time for talking is over?
Even immediately after elections 🗳️ before being voted in parliament and sworn in 😢... Those bills needs to be rechecked...
Sometimes I don't agree with P,ths video is the best one ever I watch u, o buwa nnete no one care about South Africa's to be honest 🎉🎉🎉
Love your mindset bro. 🤝💪
I also don't trust Zumas party. It is driven by bitterness, he was given the chance and didn't do much for South Africans. So his motive behind the party is very questionable and i really hope that he proves me wrong but i deeply doubt
Just EFF was driven by bitterness. Julius is 1 of the reasons we in this mess as a country.
@@Bommogo Very sad and true. There should only be 4 parties in the ballot paper in order to avoid a fake GNU
Then the boyfriend you moved on with from your ex also has a right to not trust you coz nawe its bitterness that drove you to move on
@@sbongamandlamwelase7559 What a crazy analogy you must be sick in the head
@@sbongamandlamwelase7559 You must be a psychopath, only them can use that type of analogy
It was nice to hear that people are free to say the F word on CZcams but I find highway unnecessary, especially with the type of content you are handling. This is serious stuff and you'll make history one day. But what I like is that you are not too much. Overall I am drawn to your work
If you want numbers, money or people. The best way is to polarize . No one likes the guy calling for middle ground. There is no drama in it, and people love drama. It makes the feel alive. It makes them feel like they are doing something, channeling their energy.
You're my spirit animal right now
🙏🏽❤️🔥
Much respect Pen.
My God forgive us for giving this beautiful land to fools. My God protected us from them
I typed and retyped about 5 times, yea we should really focus on us... We should just get ourselves independent in many ways... I second you there pen
Hi Mr Penuel The Black Pen ...I wish if you were the advisor or any sort in government directors or in Presidency for that matter...I 'm proud of you..tumbs up Bro...Nicholas Freeze Mavumengwana
Pen, always love your thoughts and open view to things on all things South African. Just want to find out more what you meant by “mobilising a black army and giving the black more weapons on the land issue”. Is that not gonna create huge animosity and violence?
The more people hate Andile Mgxithama and Jacob Zuma is the more they give us reasons to love them..Viva MK(party)
Awehlise ngenhlamba ndoda. We try to listen with our children manje hai akwenzeki la kuwe.
Very true it painful baba ir is boring all of them are the aame.
Andile has been downed this whole time... kanti yin.
Why are these negotiations not public?
Everyone going there is representing us
and we must not know what parties are putting on the table and bidding for which portfolio at what cost?
We don't need war, we will use the constitution as the weapon. Black people didn't choose to stay in townships we were forced to move there and to make space for Europeans to stay in those places which were not compensated for.
as someone who loves this country, people like you give me hope that the future looks bright only if you focus on things that matter. I have shared your content to some of my white friends and it changes their perspective. God bless you bro
Educational always ❤❤
Bro got be pumped 🤨🔥 lets go boy...let's work on th community.
Another session I really enjoyed …. You are speaking so many truths …
The land is mythical ,like god, its a light of hope thats impossible for most to question or challenge him on, so many fear or love the land issue, a promise no one can deliver on,opportunistic rhetoric, lets see him walk his talk,he cant,hell walk alone.vorentoe pen ,
Penuel please learn what "racism" Is, not liking white people is not racist, it's prejudice sure but not racist, racism requires systematic power and biased law.
That's a specific definition of it, that's not the original definition, and that you can't be racist as a majority in a democratic country just because of the past is a ludicrous argument my friend. So no, you should give him a reason to adopt your specific definition instead of the older one, and then upon doing that we should observe the material realities in our country to observe that the ANC (which the majority elected for three decades) have led to this stagnation for a multitude of reasons, and in electing them the black majority by definition possesses and have possessed systematic power. If they did not they could not have enforced B.E.E, could not enforce race quotas in sports, could not have made the decisions to engage in corruption and then blame white people 30 years later for the failures of state owned enterprises that should've been well maintained and expanded upon successfully after the first two decades of ANC rule.
White monopoly capital is one of many variables that have led to the situation in the country, if you think it's the only one the burden of proof is upon you.
No it's racist and the system enforces racesm
Unfortunately everyone is empowered to be racist now: DT is the role model for them to force their agenda.
Lomfana weDA udinga one major thing: IMPAMA on both sides 😀
Penuel, you said you believe Gouws is a racist, that's obvious.
But what about Rob Hersov? On MacG podcast when Rob asked about what role he had in apartheid he quickly changed the subject, and lied.( Surely he did national service) He also denied that apartheid played a role in the current situation stating "its absolute rubbish , you just need good literacy and numeracy " .
I watched with a friend here in Australia , we were shocked how that comment was glossed over . if someone denied the Stolen Generation didn't have an effect on the Aboriginal people , live on TV, there would be public outrage .Its compulsory in our education system to learn the impact colonialism had on Aboriginal people. Yet apartheid ended 30 years ago , and no one picked up on Rob's naive and blatant denial ?
Watch over MacG podcast, when Rob first arrived in SA , if you missed it.
I understand Andile's outrage at Rob's arrogance!
2024 Elections was all about giving these parties a seat at the cabinet gravy train
Spewing Fax! 😂 It's like you always read my mind.
Fire 🔥🔥
Mybe it is not as easy as that we all have different ways to deal with things but thank you for your opinion it's intriguing
They don't want this what you saying they want the wine farms,they want productive land
And that's lazy, in my opinion.
Sometimes, I disagree with you on certain things that you do or say in your platforms.
But on one, you were spitting facts🙌.
Dundee in the house.. you're a main O for whatever you say I admire how you stand up for what's on your mind. Do ppl know how tricky it is doing what you do..
Please invite Nota to your platform, I feel like your dialogue would be fire. U both very knowledgeable
Pen when are we going to talk 💪🏾
Numerous times i said the MK is not going to last and i still assume that is where is going to end and i asked the same question about Zuma regarding the stance of the land.
You really do put yourself out there, I don't agree with everything you say but you make some valid points 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
There is no excuse for Renaldo. He needs to go and be dealt with at the HRC. What aboutisms are not helpful. Good on you engaging and seeing both sides.
Coronation wins a 800million court cas vs SARS
Thank you for sharing.
It take a racist to see a racist
Jy's poes dom.
@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq ok pleas exsplain ? Wood like to learn what is a dom p....... ?
@@vanzylbooysen4826 What makes him a racist for pointing out Ronaldo Gouws is a racist? Are you thus implying racism is inevitable and thus that you yourself are a racist? Or are you implying Ronaldo Gouws is not a racist and you agree with that video in which advocated for direct violence against black people?
What exactly is it you took offense with? You must be a DA voter.
There's no such thing Baba!
Wena wi Dom kop I'm surprised ngapha ufunde nase Newcastle high
Empty vassel resorting to profanity.
I like what you said about Zuma, problem with most South Africans is they're quick to forget, why would you believe a word of mouth that changed the moment that mouth had food taken away from it.When people were still part of ANC they were happy with the status quo, they protected each other and until when things go sideways they cry foul and sheeps fall for it.
I block many people. Trash is wrong. I block Chrisexcel, ANDILE Mnxitama
"Fucking, fuck, fucken" mind your language pal. I'm watching this in front of my co-workers.
Most of these parties started somewhere driven by reasons to move away from a party mainly the ANC. so i see no fuss on why there is MK
Maybe we all need to jus calm down, adopt a wait & see approach..cos ryt now we all a bit overwhelmed with everything...even with information....
No one is coming to help you Black Man and Woman.... ONLY WE CAN SAVE OURSELVES...
Look at THE MASTERS VOICE. Sister Celestial. The powers that be are playing people off against each other and they are succeeding, sad to say
The old South African flag can be seen the same as the old Confederate flag in the United States, as a racist symbol.
"The people call it Apartheid flag" what do you call it ? IT IS AN APARTHEID FLAG !!!
Lol…😂😂😂😂the last part you killed me serious….fu*k this fu*k that….
Someone in our neighborhood has not had water for 11 Days 😢
we get your point of view about Andile, holding him accountable, Black individuality it's a huge problem here in our country, our biggest problem we don't have one ideology, one vision, one mission, one plan. we the only race that doesn't ideology for Africans, we need to go back to a drawing board and draft an ideology for Africans. that Draft would be like our bible. that would change our thinking mostly the coming generations to come, that way we have a generation of people who think alike and have one ideology, one vision, one mission, one plan, this how we can break out this system.
the current generation is too f.cked up to be taught anything new.
futuristic countries are thinking about the next generations to come, making impact now that connect the next generation
Yeah Pen you're spot on now.
Thanks!
RENALDO now that cricket ball.
Ayyyt he's called out a few times. You're calling him out today. So let's have a public debate💁
Rutendo can be moderator🤔 maybe someone else I don't
But how do you support drip while it's not 100% owned by black man...that's the reason why I think mR Andile does not want to com to your show
You look great bro 🤙
I guess voting for ANC in 1994 was bitterness from our parents, ay
At the end of the day anyone who does not build is USELESS. I admire the Orania initiative - those are thinking and doing people, talk shops like BLF who can't do the same are useless.
The IFP should transform itself to become a party of service delivery and initiate the establishment of capacity building institutions- so that that does not become the preserve of the DA and FF+ alone. We need black excellence.
Brother umlungu is a boss/employer and umuntu omhlophe is vernac word for white person
Your Opinion On Orania Seeking The Right To Self-Determination?