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Are You Building the Wrong Heroes? | Hero Wars
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 17. 08. 2024
- Imagine there is a team that you REALLY want to build, maybe it's a "META" team or maybe it's just a cool idea for a team that you had. This game is a long-term grind-fest and you need to make sure EVERY resource is put exactly where you need it to be. Do Not Waste Resources on heroes that YOU DON'T PLAN TO USE!
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The trick is not finding the best heroes, but to finding the best combinations of heroes. Leveling up a "good" hero when you don't have the right combinations is possibly an even bigger waste.
Some good geeks should make an APP that does the calculations for you among the heros you actually have, to come up with the best combos
Variety is the spice of life but resource demands are hard to meet. Choose wisely your tanks, support and counters. Team synergy is most important and counter heros (ie Helios, Sebastian, Isaac) are very important! Also if the hero is interchangeable with different combo's is a consideration of worth. Cheers and good luck!
Once factions were released I looked at heroes I had leveled up and created three teams of hero's based on those factions to fight in Grand Arena. Since then nearly ALL of my upgrades have been on those 15 heroes. New hero events and Jhu and Hojo (for hydra fights) are the exceptions.
Do you mean Mojo?
It also feels good to look at a huge stack of materials. And to know u have any new hero covered to get them lvled when u deciede.
If I ever was confused before, now I for sure
am :)
Now if I just knew that difference between bad heroes and good heroes.
Seriously.
I just started 3 or 4 days ago, and the advice here is "don't waste resources on heroes you aren't going to use." Based on what information? How do I know which heroes I'm going to use are what heroes make a good team? I have no context as to which heroes are a waste of time. I started building up Tristan because I thought he looked cool, but this video uses him as an example of a hero that's a waste of time. Is this a universal conclusion or just a hypothetical example? What information is being used to determine "bad" heroes from "good" heroes?
@@neekondrums Just make do with whatever you have first. Level 130 is a long way to go. When you reach level 30, 50, 60 and so on, you have access to more heroes and can transform your team to use new heroes. Getting to purple is really not a big investment compare to red. Your initial team don't go to waste as you'll need 3 teams for GA and later 5 teams in Asgard at level 65. You can just recycle them into your other teams. I started with Keira, now using Qing Mao but still using Keira in my 3rd team in GA. I'm now bringing up Jhu for Asgard, Qing Mao and Keira will still find a place in my other teams for Asgard. Some says GA and Asgard are just distraction, should focus on main team, but I'm at level 66 and perform equal or better at GA and Asgard than some level 80 player with just a strong main team.
@@neekondrums Kaybee65 has it right. Though it feels like every choice matters a lot in the very beginning of the game, it doesnât much. Try out different heroes and watch videos to see what you might like.
The most precious resources are skin stones and artifacts - these take the most effort to get. Gold and skill points can be allocated with much less worry because theyâre common - practically renewable. So donât worry about making perfect choices. Build in a balanced way and pay attention to which heroes are helping and how.
@@kaybee65 Agreed. I at first only built up 7 or 8 heroes and ignored most of the rest of the ones I received. Then a couple of weeks ago I switched gears and went with a more balanced approach to my heores. One thing I am doing now is saving a lot of my most precious resources to make sure I'm investing with a purpose. I do a lot better in GA because I have 3 comparably strong teams. So I find that after getting wiped in the 1st round, I sweep the back two because of depth.
I usually focus in 3 or 4 heros depending the category... at certain point I think is good enough for 3rd or 4th team (or variable to the first 2) and then I'll start leveling another Hero. But I do have a bunch of "future Heros" where... yeah, I do my dailys, hahaa.
Charlie is implicitly telling people not to level up Keira, yet he listed off at least three strong teams that included her. Keira is an easy hero to Ult-Star, and she still kicks ass at higher levels. If you ever plan to play in Grand Arena, Keira should be on one of your 3 teams. She is my second most developed hero, and does more damage than all my other heroes, by a lot. I would have used Ginger for this example, because she is not an A tier Marksman.
Completely agree with you mate. She kick asses in GA!
Good advice on the resource management part. Unfortunately, not many follow your advice and they spend tons of resources (and money) on random heroes which they decide not to use later on.
Lol, I was literally in the middle of deciding between corvus and helios to bring up to throw in vs yas. This will make that decision easier.
Thanks for the rundown, it's helpful as a newer player to get your complex perspective. What's interesting to me is that I haven't tended to use Keira in the second rank, rather the third. From my experience, I don't think that it's fair to compare Keira with Ishmael in the next to front position, because Ishmael is naturally stronger there. I love how fast Keira's special attacks fire of in the third position, which is where I normally place her in my teams. Just my two cents, I'll keep toying with it.
I invested so much into Galahad before i knew better. really annoying to this day. wish you could reset heroes in certain ways, like artifacts, and glyphs.
New subscriber. I only just started playing this game 5 days ago. Just reached lvl 50 with my team. So itâs great coming across your channel and learning this strategy. I was already shifting and focusing on newer team heroes and some others lingering behind at lower levels as well not as much deeper investments in skills etc. So learning that others use this strategy leveling is great to know.
to max out the default skin requires 30825 skin stones while maxing out one of the other four skins requires 55410 skin stones ..
so to completely max out all 5 skins of a hero requires you exactly 252465 skin stones
I'm excited to level Corvus
He is a badass
Ishmael is great since he has been reworked. So when Keira will be reworked she'll be deadly! That's the thing it rotates and change with time. Ideally you need all heroes
I think most people build up characters like Keira, Karkh and Iris because during certain events their soul Stones drop at high concentrations so it seems, like you said in another video, that HW wants people to build her up and fast. I have build her up quite high but I don't usually select her as often as I could just because I find the other heroes I have built up seem to do much more damage overall in comparison.
thanks Charlie, slowly building up corvus and morrigan
I made the mistake of getting almost everyone to violet by gathering equipment. Now I concentrate on the heroes I use or plan to use soon.
Same mistake here
On mobile it at least lets you start 5 missions at once in the airship
Violet isn't a huge spending, you can afford that. But of course if you don't see any reason to use the heros after that, it's already a waste
Ok.... I'm doing exactly that. Why is it a mistake? What else should I be focusing on instead?
@Chris Barnes my answer now will be different than 2 month ago. With the new rules for team level, you should do as few campaign fight as possible and prioritize the tower to earn gold and items. Else your team level will rise too fast compared to your actual hero level and you won't be able to go to the top of the tower, or it'll be exhausting each time. So you should get item mostly from the tower and from merchant, and not raid the campaign constantly. Of course it limits for how many heros you can get items.
Yesterday i ascend keira completely and guys she is beast she cuts trough teams like they are made from paper and I can use her like tank she gains energy really fast and when she starts ulting and silencing its game over but strong celeste is still problem
What team do you usually use Keira with? How do you keep her alive? Thanks!
Farafir Dorian Keira X Asteroth (x= corvus vs most, x= anvari vs kargh, x= satori vs orion/yorgen), having 2 heros in front of keira help a lot vs stuns, and in this setup she is in dorians aura keeping her alive
@@Scriptease1 Thanks! The other person mentioned using Keira as a tank though, any idea how to keep her alive in that case?
@@valerievankerckhove9325 since she doesnt have evade(maybe with dante) i think killing quickly with crit(jet and Sebastian) might work vs lower teams, but vs real dmg nobody can heal her fast enough to survive in first position
I had some success with jet yorgen nebula keira astheroth where i kept nebula jet and yorgens hp below keira(it means kargh only attacks those) and you kill everything in 10 seconds
So glad that I "wasted" all those resources on Keira. She's so worth it.
Love how acceping and inclusive you are. It may not be your favourite hero, but no criticism for those who might like that hero.
Charlie saying "I like Galahad A Lot!" is my new ring tone
It's a departure from his normal position on Galahad. Hilarious...
You posting similar comments about his dislike of glahad stoped being funny months ago
@@voidhound5170 if you block me you don't have to see them
@ Griff But if I do that how can I rant about your comments next time you post something similar haha
@@voidhound5170 fair point, critique away
isaac, amira, or xesha would be nice for mobile hero of the month...
With all the games available, I can't believe people actually play this.
This is all relative....Keira is a great hero. I have a Keira team ias 1 of my 3 teams in GA and I consistently stay 3-4 th in the rankings there
The reaso to upgrade other heros to the violet ability is you might want to know what that hero can do and if he might have a place in one of your Teams or maybe he can counter other Heros, is usefull against bosses or at certain campaign levels. And there is always the Chance that a Hero gets buffed, reworked or he gets another Skin. Or they ad an aditional Hero into this Game and now we have a new Meta
Iâve wasted a ton of resources on the wrong heroâs but itâs not too late to bounce back
I am a newbie.. I think I just got to level 45.. Anytime I get a new hero I try to get the hero up to level 15 so that I can use them in the Tower.. I guess you can complete all of the Tower Levels.. I haven't done that yet so that is my focus.. It seams by level 15 I get a good feel about what the heroes abilities are going to be and then I might want to start putting more resources in them.. You mentioned Kira.. I like her at the level that I am right now.. I like that she can dig a hole and heal herself.. That seams to come in handy in the Outland..
Sorry it is Ziri that digs the hole and it is Keira that has the blade whirlwind
At level 45, it shouldn't be seriously difficult to get to the top of the tower. I think I have a continuous run of getting to the top every day since I was close to level 45, maybe 47.
You might not have realised yet that the tower adapts to the level of your team, so if you're team level 45 then you should have all of your main heros at level 45 to beat the tower without major difficulty. And 46 if you're level 46, etc. But if you haven't yet found a powerful tower team (my current team is unchanged since level 52 to 67), you'll need more reserve heros when one is too low on energy or health.
I made the same mistake of leveling up useless heroes early on.
I just use Corvus and 4 lady hero (1 is morrigan of course)
Yes, keep focused, but I think the game is more fun when you have a good choice of heroes - so building your supports is also a thing
If someone would ask me which hero to invest into, I'reccommend Astaroth and Sebastian in the first place. The choice between any damage dealer should be weighted carefully, because a player might require more then just one, and any player will sooner or later require both physical and magic line ups well developped in order to remain competitive in all playgrounds. Among the physical damage dealers my first choice would be Jhu for more then valid reason of being competitive in Asgard, but also to be competitive in other playgrounds. It looks like not many players are aware, but Jhu is an excellent tank destroyer. Among the magic casters, my first choice would be Aurora, then twins, Celeste, Iris and Morrigan. Orion not necessarily because Jhu can complement Orion in PAs very well. Beside Jhu, I'd certainly chose either Karkh or Dante, then Nebula and Andvari. The above mentioned characters are my own picks at present, but it is worth mentioning that those heros may become ineffective over time because some other would be either launched or reworked which would render the group I picked as "obsolete". What one can do best is not to make hasty decisions and go wisely irrespective of what heros have been chosen to invest into.
Astaroth is the worst choice, except if you are about to build K'arkh team.
@@elkr79
Astroath was the diffrence in my lineup when i wanted to defeat #2 arena rank dude on my server , so he can be very valuable against certain lineups .
@@Ismail_Masyaf In offense you can use any tank, however, Astaroth is poor defender, because he has direct countering heroes which are already known among majority of players.
Jhu seems so useful. If he is fighting vanilla minions, he can actually be a tank. I think the best healer for him is probably Thea because of her speed up skill, which is always available for him.
It would be interesting to see how effective a Thea-Jhu-Chabba team can be, because Chabba's armor increases as his health declines. In this team, this means that his speed increases when his health is below 30%.
â@@elkr79 which direct countering heros for Astaroth?
These stupid red dots are everywhere. For this reason we can overlook something important. I always level up GotE low heros and later reset if need spakrs for hero i use.
I was going to say that this is a stupid idea, but it actually makes sense. Those sparks are just sitting there until you need them, so why not? Every day give 1 to a magic using hero, until you can afford to upgrade your main focus, then take back those single sparks...right?
i love quing mao
how should we choose pets for each hero?
Note carefully: in the middle of the video, Charlie is speaking hypothetically; itâs **not** actually commentary on Keira, etc.. Heâs explaining the fundamentals of the process of budgeting, planning, and allocating resources that is the backbone of this game.
If you are on Server 99, Pour all your resources in Dark Star - Hurry before everyone else does.
what difference does it make which server you're on?
@Chris Barnes because I am on server 99 and I am jokingly hoping other people are stupid enough to invest in Dark Star.
I understand the hoarding method of leveling your teams but I personally don't care for it. I love the grind and don't mind spending my assets when I get them. I started the game with an ODH team but my guild had way too many magic teams so my guild leader asked me to switch to a Keira team. It doesn't matter to me that one day my hero might be useless because of a nerf or a new character voids their effectiveness. I love the grind and the only time I hold on to assets is when I know an big event requires them for missions. Having all the assets in the world doesn't do you any good if you never use them.
Hmmm, so now I need to look at Ismael... Kiera is one of my main go to's
No, don't look at Ishmael. I don't think that Charlie meant that. I think that there are better choices.
thanks Eugene!
Interesting but valuable approach.
Thank God i didn't listen to Charlie and have a Keira team that literally kicks ass of every team he mentioned. đ
I just jumped into the game without learning anything first and wasted a bunch of resources and gold on the basic heros.
I am a new player and reached level 44 today, and Keira has been my main damage dealer the entire way. It's tempting to make her even better, from a beginner perspective. But I'll listen to the pro and hold back.
Hi guys! My karkh is maxed, what is the best team can I use with him?
I'm totally guilty of clicking those pesky red dots. It's a bad habit i need to kick!
Great video Charlie!
Yes I canât help it!
thanks
"Dorion, Fox..."
Looked like you clicked DeeDee to me.
Thanks Charlie.
Yours videos are the best. you arre the number one youtuber for me !!!! THX to You. Charlie RULES !!!!!!!
Hey Charlie, great video as always!
sometimes we change ideas and resources are already wasted lol
Thanks Charlie
More specific advise on good hero combinations would be more useful.
Get them all, problem solved
TY !
Always information to think about.
I mistake all in this game, making grow heroes not related like astaroth, keyla, thea, Jorgen and quen mao :((( now i am upgrading the green alien and the yasmine but it will take so long.. Grrrr time wasted only at the end.. Marta is not possible to be on my list and i know it.. Nice game.. Same for the pet, i am developing biscuit and oliver and looks pike they are not really good..
And after 3 years I still donât know what Iâm doing lol
Why is Iris better than Orion ? Thank you .
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Hi
This is a great video!
Mojo is still like blue 1 and 2 star. I have 4 star ishmael
Ishmeal is bad, as well this advice. Do not spend anything on Ishmeal. In the end, Keira is so much better.
Who do you make your videos for? All of you. Generally, there are A LOT of solutions to make the best team. And you can't raise 22 heroes to level 130 and RED+2? You simply can't. You have one shot at making some super tank. You can choose Astrid, Rufus, Astaroth, Julius, sometimes Dante, Cleaver (less and less),... One of these, not ALL as you give us as your recommendations. All of you on youtube.
If we talk about damage dealers, it is even worse, you can use A LOT of heroes. When we speak about healers and mages, A LOT OF OPTIONS. You all use A LOT of combinations, and they are all lv130, with the absolute star, with RED+2 strength. WHO CAN RAISE 22 heroes to be like that? NOBODY.
I am not sure even if somebody spends 1000 bucks a month if he can have 22 top-pumped heroes to have 'combinations' that are given on youtube.
Are you aware that you suggest that we should pump these heroes, to have all possible combinations: Dante, Celeste, Astaroth, Keira, Dorian, Aurora, Cornelius, Faceless, Fox, Lian, Cleaver, Jet, Nebula, Kharkh, Satori, Martha, Andvari, Corvus, Morrigan, Isaac, Iris, Yasmine. You ALL use these heroes to make the best team. It is 22 heroes. YOU CAN'T make them all be RED+2, lv130, with all glyphs pumped, with all artifacts, you should play this game for 10 years to do that. And to spend at least 500 bucks a month.
Even if your videos are RECOMMENDATIONS, we still can't make the team we want, but what we CAN. You can pump some heroes, but some new ones can arise, like IRIS. And you can go from scratch to raise her. It is a mission impossible. Or you can invest so much, and your hero becomes useless. I did it with Ishmael. He was the best damage dealer, then the developers didn't raise his armor penetration and his armor, so he becomes an average damage dealer overnight. And he could kill the whole team alone. He still can make 70K damage in one blow, but he can't do anything against the strong tank. On the other hand, Dante can go through the walls. He can be even a tank. So, if you invest in the wrong hero, you can lose A LOT of time and resources, and you can't know if your hero is the winning one.
This game is pointless. I reached 360K titans, and after that, you must PAY to raise them. Or you can't make them stronger. This whole game is about greed. You simply must PAY to be good at this game.
very useful for inexeprienced players.
thx charlie
đ I really want Morrigan to be a really "good" hero to pair with the Undead characters like Corvus and Phobos but her damn Skeleton and Healing abilities don't Pop fast enough for themđ”đđ”
I need Corvus to spawn the Pillar so the enemies get hit with the "Reflect" damage but he also doesn't spawn it "fast enough"đ
I now have Kiera, Dante, Morrigan, Phobos, Corvus.... Full team of "Eternity" Undead heroes
We are all like that...QM i invested and I barely use her....I used to but not any more.
I have 70000+ energy
There shoud be 1 more 0 on every revord so this wodn't be a problem
Hi, Thanks.
gracias por el video amigo
yeah i hate red dots anything not complete and it doesn't always tell you why its red and ready
How do you guys have lvl 130 heros?
I clicked game due to giant monster girl, so far no giant monster girl... did ad lie?
I have my main heroes by
( thea. Martha. Arachne. Morrigan. Yasmine. Astaroth. Galahad. Qing Mao .corvus. Celeste).
I have all the other hearos but I need not waste my items. so I need to know what to not use and what is important. because this team that I have is not extremely good enough to be in the top 50 players.
give me heroes names to Max other than my 10 current heroes
I've never met an ishmael I didn't beat lol
He used to be an absolute beast, now he's average
@@marcacurso7756 Ah thatâs interesting I just started levelling him and yasmine. Would you suggest Yasmine over him? I heard he was better?
@@kfitzsimons1793 I would level Ishmael if your attack is front heavy, if not go with Yasmine. Decide if you going with an agility or crit comp and that will tell you who to level
as a Keira player I found the thumpnail to be a click bait.... good video still
Great video
Ok, I have a real noob question:
How do I figure out who is a "hero"?
I see those who are tanks vs warriors vs healers, etc - but every video I see talks about picking your hero. WTH is that?
All the characters you get are "heros". They're just saying pick one among the guys you get.
I should've watched this video a long time ago. I wasted so much resources đ
I am a Keira player so had a modicum of interest when you promised to identify why Ishmael would have been a better investment than Keira but.... nothing in here about any of that ACTUALLY in here...? Hmmm
I think that he is just giving hypothetical choices, and not really naming any best choices. I could be wrong.
I completed my Keira with full everything, glyphs, artifacts, skins and even maxed Ascension. Total power is lower than I expected at 162,444 with stats as follows: Intelligence:2458, Agility:15387, Strength:2980, Health:377077, Physical Attack:97381, Magic Attack:7374, Armor:30435, Magic Defense:13275, Armor Penetration:45051
Galahad is not the best tank thought!
Kiera is my favourite and yes she sucks but still my favourite.
Why is she sucks? With fafnir still very effective!
If you're f2p levelling thru Violet is an easy way to get emeralds with unused chars
first :D I think i might try building Ishmael
Judge is the best and TBH Charlie hasn't a clue what he is talking about. When I first started playing his advice was to ignore Phobos and Dante as they useless. Epic fail when most top teams will use Dante or Rufus in position 1
Hello!
thank you Charlie
Nice! :)
Cool content
Nice
Yes I am. đ
I love my Kiera but you say Ish will be better ok i' ll work on him
If i found a Osh Team in Arena , my keira smash them , and eat to dinner hahaha
nice
nice vid
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