Trent isn't the problem...
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Trent is finding it difficult make passes with only statues in front of him
Foden i think made good runs at times. He's struggled to get on the ball
When Trent looks up for Liverpool he has Salah, Diaz and Nunez making great runs in behind for him to find. When he looks up for England he only has Saka...everyone else is coming short or walking around. So frustrating knowing what Trent is capable of but not being able to show.
If he could do things at an elite level other than long balls though he wouldn’t need those players to play balls over the top to, he could still play well using other technical strengths. His one dimensionality is an issue. Shouldn’t be the teams responsibility to have all the players just specifically to suit his play style.
@@dundalisTrent is not Steven Gerrard, Zizou or Ronaldinho. This is also football, a team sport and I agree with the comment @mrcarlo5357 made about the difference in quality with their forwards. The problem is not the midfield it’s actually the front 3 cos who is the solid front 3 for this England squad?? Matter fact what is the strongest team that Southgate can put together from this squad? And can he develop them and can they train to the point where they have great chemistry like the French team. I genuinely think that there are individuals that are WAY more deserving of a starting spot than others. I think the formation we use is wrong, I think these players don’t gel well cos of the experience and no experience. Trent can’t play to his best abilities because he does not have chemistry with any player on that pitch but Jude and Saka. And that’s Southgate’s doing. He never picks Trent and unfortunately if u don’t train with ur national team consistently like the others that are always picked, there are downsides.
@@dundalis Elite level like Denmark? Come on mate
@@mrcarlo5357 elite level skills. What’s one thing Trent does on a football pitch you can say is elite apart from the long ball?
@@dylanfelix818 I’m not really commenting on Englands issues, I’m just commenting on the fact Trent is a very one dimensional player who’s hard to accomodate. In any side imo unless you just have the perfect players to suit his skillset.
Was pleasantly surprised to see the general public standing up for Trent after he was subbed today
When Liverpool messes up, Trent gets blamed. When England messes up, Southgate gets blamed. This is the difference between an elite coach (Klopp) and a fraud coach.
I saw the opposite. Telegraph just posted a hit piece.
@@kd5973 The Telegraph aren't the "general public", guy.
@GravelordWrust WHAT??? You're telling me millionaire (mostly foreign) owned newspapers aren't reflective of what most people think!? You've been smoking something crazy bro 🤦
The way the pundits and English media speak about Trent is disgusting, they’ve been doing it to him every chance they get since he was 17/18
Against Serbia he was fine, not amazing, made 1 mistake - but largely just an average midfield performance.
Kane and Foden were absolutely horrendous…. Trent is on all the headlines
Against Denmark, he is better, makes the most chances, shows his passing range. Rice next to him put in a disasterclass…. It’s all Trent’s fault again
Same goes for Saka, unnecessary criticism, while the white golden boys Kane, Foden and rice can never do any wrong
Rice is one of the most overrated players on the planet
Foden and Kane have gotten massive public criticism what are you talking about
@@chapman2001 that's true. But I think Foden is overrated too, he's more athlete than footballer. The Pep system flatters his abilities to deceive, much like with Sterling
I support Liverpool I think Trent is shite and I've said for years England players always think they are better than they are
@@Wayne-wm6wqwasn't trent one of main key component of Liverpool winning everything
Trent needs players to make runs. It's like trying to play with Beckham with no strikers in the box.
Is he good enough that you should build your entire team just to accomodate him alone though? IMO that’s not an easy question to answer.
@@dundalisit’s not an easy answer but the only reason it isn’t an easy answer is because Jude Bellingham exists and the team is actually built around him.
@@dundaliscan anyone pass the ball better than him in our team ?
@@izaekdriscoll1409 Long pass no, short passing absolutely. If Slot wants to develop more interplay passing style which he has done in Holland, he will want more pass and move style players. MacAllister is a far better passer than Trent under a press. Trent requires lots of space and time to make his long passes or he’s ineffective, put him under lots of pressure and he doesn’t make very good decisions. Which is why transitioning him into a full time mid might not work
@@dylanfelix818 If Bellingham didn’t exist though you’d probably build it around Foden
We need to see Trent with Watkins, Eze/Gordon and Bowen/Saka in the the attack.
They'll make the runs that goes best with his passing.
Man Ian Wright screaming at the TV audience saying what's the point for Trent if the team can't keep possesion. If the guy hasn't got any runners (excluding Saka)
Trent just waiting for the right Slot
England are playing a right footed left back who had an awful season.
A left 'winger' who wants to play central.
A striker who seems to want to be a DM.
A right back who relies on pace to cover a lack of defensive ability.
But yeah....
Trent is the problem.
Then we had Trent, Kane, Saka all on the pitch who want to play throughballs to runners and no runners.
Then we brought runners on and took off all the people who can play throughballs.
Misled is the word.
This sums it up perfectly
Took the words out of my mouth. Perfectly summed up. 👏👏👏
Spot on 👌
Everyone in that team plays walking football and all pundits just over analysing TAA!
It’s madness, no mention of the rice stinker or most the other players
@@Do27gg all of them! Kane, jude, Tripper, Declan... none of them set the world on fire!
@@Rain188 and people think because he had one bad game as a holding 6 it means he can’t play midfield, if you put him in midfield he has to be an attacking player not play to his weaknesses
@Do27gg i honestly feel like trents most natural position in midfield is as a 10 lmao. If we ignore the obvious right midfielder shout that is.
@@skaffa_t just give him license to roam, he can do any pass just happens to do crosses the most because he’s in those positions
Also, the Danes played really well.
And I mirror your concern: Southgate doesn't seem to understand what it takes to actually nurture and inspire players. Even Bellingham was playing like a rabbit in the headlights. And the FA is actually wasting precious time with Southgate at the helm.
Most creative player taken off after 50 mins when he created the most chances and also subbed off for actual runners is madness 😂 he didn’t have the best game but will still be scapegoated by the media
Englands most creative player was Kyle Walker, which is unsurprising given the style of play in most Premier League matches. Play enough crosses, score goal.
Foden is not being utilized properly, but he is used to playing with KDB and Bernardo Silva.
Trent is the problem. He does not play with enough defensive urgency, so you can’t start him at RB or else youre liable to get sucker punched in the early going. If he played with more defensive urgency, he could rotate with Walker like for like.
@@macriggland6526yh let's blame for everything when he never played cdm before or burney football and front 3 no movement just wasting him hope he retires from England after euros
@@macriggland6526and that there is the problem. On one hand people say. SOUTHGATE NEGATIVE etc. plays too defensive and then the moment England have a generational footballer who can create more than anyone else on the field. He can't defend as good as someone else so he shouldn't play. It's contradictory! Also the stats of the game suggest Trent created the most on the field yesterday not Kyle Walker
@@macriggland6526 bro Trent is not a holding 6, that’s insane. He’s an attacking 8 similar to KDB in where he should play. It makes no sense to put Trent as a defensive midfielder when everyone knows his attacking abilities severely outweigh this defensive ability. It’s just playing to his weaknesses and Southgate threw him under the bus by playing him there then taking him off after 50 mins.
But foden gets the let off? Double standards are insane
@macriggland6526
This is correct. To play him at right back you need tremendous athletic ability and talent to make the defensive risj worthwhile (Allison, Konate and Virgil covering across etc)
It’s like he’s learning on the job to be an international central midfielder and you don’t have a chance of the whole team is dysfunctional and there aren’t enough strong runners ahead of him (like Salah and Darwin)
I said yesterday when no one is making runs what can Trent do. Walker and Saka were running down the right so he didnt need to be there. Nobody on the left or middle making runs. When we got someone on the pitch who could actually run (watkins) he had already been subbed off! Madness!
Finally a good analysis video and unsurprisingly its from one of our own Liverpool fan.
I am not England fan but seeing Trent being hated unfairly is so frustrating, Kane and Foden do not help with anything, a basic for attacker is running in behind which both of them enjoy doing the opposite more, everyone talking shit about Trent almost give away a goal against Serbia, did anyone talk about Kane literally give away a goal this game? There is 2 system in the squad right now, one is Bellingham with Saka and Trent while the other is Kane + Foden. Southgate need to sort out his mind which one is the priority
I watched the game with a friend who doesn't watch a lot of football. We spoke before the match and I was asked who I thought would win the tournament, I told him England should be considered a contender to win. They have a decent GK, decent defenders, world class midfielders and some of the worlds best attackers.
I was really shocked TAA got subbed at 55', thinking the real problem was that no one was moving on the pitch. Saka just walks around the pitch, Foden did some runs, and Kane dropping too deep. It was in my opinion to little runs to open up areas to play. Credit to Denmark for their incredible marking and work eithics tracking back and pressing, but I honestly believe that having more movement in the midfield and more direct runs would open up sooo much space for the creatives like Trent, Foden and Bellingham to either drive the ball forward or give a well timed pass to someone making those runs.
Most passes from England were going backwards, and you could see that Pickford tried to get the team moving, and even gave a nod to Stones (I believe it was Stones) when he didn't have anyone to pass so he gave away a corner. The tactics Southgate are playing with seems way below the par of the players, and he needs to evolve the tactics so the players can shine.
I'm no expert at all, I just found it incredible how Denmark, who do have some decent players, totally dictated the midfield in possesion, did runs and showed themselves to be able to get the ball moving whilst England who undoubtedly have more quality in every position didn't manage nearly as many progressive passes.
Another thing that baffled me was the fact that Rice and TAA play as 6's, but I thought it looked like Trent were way more deep than Rice most of the game, let him roam around the pitch to be able to utilize the incredible passing he has instead of making him play out of position as a defensive midfielder were he has to do more defensive work than the best English 6 atm.
Imagine England's best talents going from playing for Pep, Klopp and Ancelotti to Southgate. Then wonder why it isnt clicking. 😅
Southgate seems to be obsessed with getting his most talented XI on the pitch, regardless of whether or not they're compatible.
I'd love to see Foden on the right, Gordon on the left, with Trent in midfield and Walker at RB.
Trent isn't a midfield but were still one of England best player in the first two games
No. Stop this nonsense. He has been poor.
It would not make any difference what Gareth tried to do with Trent, when England play so defensively there is literally no one up front for him to pass to, Gareth is managing to make great players like Trent and Foden look mediocre.
Tactically to take Trent OFF and replace him with Bowen and Watkins is completely an illustration of the error from the management. He should have come ON at the same time as these two guys, giving him people to hit with his passing prowess. Before that there was literally NO-ONE for him to target.
Well?...
I'm a Liverpool fan and loved having TAA at our club. But I've been really frustrated with his attitude on the pitch, almost as if he thinks he's too good to try. We all wanted him to move to midfield. He isn't cut out for a CM role where there's pressure from all sides. He doesn't need to care about pressure at right back. He gets the ball, he pings the ball, never the need for any sharpness. He also never moves to receive the ball. He's in the way all the time and the other players don't trust him, which is why they never pass to him in tight areas
That said, hardly anyone made a run in behind, and when they did, TAA didn't pick it out for some reason. No presence on the left with Trippier and Foden for TAA to ping a pass. Why is TAA on the pitch when no one is is making those runs?
Southgate wants Trent to play because of his creativity but is not using him properly.
The problem is not Trent, but Southgate's tactics.
A 3-4-3 formation will help with Trent as a right-sided midfielder/wingback with Walker covering as the 3rd cb.
Pickford
Walker-Guehi-Stones
Trent-Rice-Bellingham-Gordon
Saka-Kane-Foden
I think you have it Spot ,I mean if your going to put a Right back in mid field you don't switch to a central midfielder you play them in right sided mid field
Was thinking this myself honestly. Also solves the problem of having to play an out of position rb at lb
Well last night England front 3 hardly made a run so Trent had nothing to aim at. Then Southgate brought on 3 forwards who were instructed to make runs but at this point Trent was sitting down and the 3 subs had little impact.
I need to see Trent with runners ahead of him before jugging him
He was the only positive player on the pitch. He is the scapegoat and he was before the tournament started. It's so boring
Well said
He had to get a hatrick and cure world hunger to not be scapegoated
@@Do27ggyou got me rolling but its true tho💀😂
Ive heard people say Trents passing was bad when he made like 7 chances in 2 games. Like Saka very nearly scores from Trent y0 yard pass then he gets subbed off 2 mins later for run a foul merchant Gallagher wtf@Justmemes551
that was a fantastic over view of Trent, I remember his first game for Liverpool it was against Man U, and I thought, why is Klop playing this young lad at right back, and at the end of the game I realised why.Trent has only got better as a player.
It’s not that it’s Trent not playing well. All the English players aren’t playing well with the exception of the crystal palace center back. Coaching is a hell of a thing. Not everyone can do it!
For me, you have to build the side around Trent if you want him to play in the midfield.
Picture Juve in 2014. You had Pirlo pulling the strings with a free role doing what he wants in midfield, and Pogba did all the dirty horrible work next to him and runners going in behind the back line.
Difference being Pirlo could play the position, Trent cannot.
As in Liverpool, Trent's passes are converted as valuable balls by Salah, Lucho. All the England players are miserable. But they all sabotage only on Trent.
Trent is the media’s escape goat for this tournament, that started before he even got on the plane to Germany
Yeah I can't see why so few people are discussing the fact the fullbacks are the problem. You've got an old rightfooted Tripper on the left side and a still great but old, less attacking Walker on the right. Defences aren't getting stretched often enough. Everything is supposed to happen centrally but that crowds out Bellingham's space and leads to Kane dropping back.
Trent is the solution, not the problem. Play him at rightback and let him bomb forwards, either staying wide when Saka cuts in, or drifting in when Saka stays wide. People always criticise his defensive frailties but England's defence hasn't been the issue. Play Walker as the right-sided CB so he can cover Trent's defensive duties, Rice can also drop back. Gallagher running back and forth to progress play makes more sense when the fullbacks stretch the pitch. Why he didn't bring any other left backs in the squad is beyond me, or even anyone dynamic and aggressive who could play there. Part of me wonders if Joe Gomez is a better option than Tripper but neither are ideal. If it has to be someone rightfooted at leftback who is going to predictably cut in, Foden needs to stay wider.
Trent is an incredibly skilled crosser of the ball and having him charge out wide will scare defences and open up space in the centre when they move to block him. It just seems obvious to me but half the pundits are too busy complaining that's he's not a good enough CM to deserve being played.
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Denmark stepped up their game after Kane's goal. Foden's playing without MC. Gallagher and other subs did nothing. Bellingham was invisible.
Southgate needs the balls to drop Foden and play Gordon. That's the only way you get the most of all the players on the field. Otherwise Trent's biggest weapon is neutered, Bellingham and Foden cramp each other up, and Kane is easily marked right out of the game. Instruct the wingers to stay wide. Stretch the game. Give Kane, Bellingham and Trent space in the half spaces and space to run into the box.
Trent is the easy target. People are talking like if Trent doesn’t play Kane is going to score a hat-trick, Foden will play a 10/10, Stones will lock up the best attack.. Lol get a grip. This is a team sport. This was always the risk with picking TAA, let him develop.
Biggest problem for me is Kane. He doesn’t make runs. He doesn’t press. He drops into an already congested midfield. If we get rid of Kane, England can play higher up the pitch and press, Trent can pick out Watkins. We’ll actually play like a team.
Oh God, just imagine if Trent was playing for the Brazil NT.
Have the CB play a high line, you have walker. You have players that can run. Push them up and exploit Saka's pace.
They should strongly consider sacking Southgate, he has proven to be cowardly in the way he tactically sets up this team.
One thing people ain’t touching on is Kane can’t press do you know how detrimental that is to a side that wants possession but also don’t have a strong enough back 4 to press higher to help Kane out
He was there to ping passes forward, problem was there was no-one there to pass too.
If there is one person playing out of position it’s asking Southgate to be a good tactician.
I just think it’s so clear that Trent doesn’t know when to press, when to drop etc so he looks lost. Maybe if he was at RB and Gallagher came into midfield it would be better. Get TAA and trippier out for Gordon and shaw and we will flourish
Thank you! I've been saying the same thing all day at work.
Playing rb means he doesn’t have his back turned to players almost ever, it’s pretty nice for someone with long range passing skills
Trent needs the back of the field to be effective. Strikers aren't good at defending a back who moves up the field and delivers the ball.
In every position, keeper excepted, England had the better player, but Denmark played as a team, while england played as individuals. Its always been that way. They dont look like a team
I liked what James Alcott said on this. Trent needs to be "the 100 touch man". People say he hasn't had forwards who make runs infront of him. I just think he wasn't able to get on the ball enough
He is actually part of the problem, since he's obviously uncomfortable in midfield. But no runners in behind, kane and foden preferring to play in midfield works against him as well. Seriously though, Southgate should be playing Foden in midfield, Gordon or Eze on the left, and drop Walker who is doing nothing.
In my opinion Trent being a midfielder is a creation of the English media.
Klopp did not play Trent in midfield and instead purchased a bunch of midfielders last summer - that should tell you everything.
Englands trouble is they “feel” players should play in certain positions where better managers at their clubs don’t see them playing. They get into the England side playing a certain way and are asked to play out of position for England.
Crucial areas of the team are not playing in an ideal position. This is the managers fault - it’s his job to play the right players a in the right positions at the right time. Scapegoating players hasn’t won England any trophies.
Thankfully the criticism is focusing more on Southgate which is LONG overdue
Dont set up the best players but the best team. Old international on the dutch channel said it nicely: look at the midfield of germany and england the one has everything and the other plays in 2 lines. There is a huge gap between bellingham and rice/ trent. You need a midfielder who connects those and makes Kane stay put.
Its either trent of walker not both.
Agreed. The subs were done in the wrong order. If he'd been on with the faster players up front to run in behind, it would have been much better.
Ancelotti for the England job!
I wonder if England need to start playing like spurs and united against city. Drop Kane and play 2 central 10s and 2 wingers. Foden and Palmer as the 10s, Bellingham with rice in midfield and maybe play Trent at RB. The team can't dominate posession so be that simple counter attacking side. Gorden on the left
I would play Trent as a ten in front rice and Bellingham and use Gordon on the left and same on the right and Cole palmer as the 9
England need to go 4 4 2 to get anything out of this tournament. Kane needs watkins around him and maybe trent could go right midfield which would be more natural position for him. Bellingham in the middle running things with rice . And then rotate the wide midfielders for more energy. Foden saka etc
If you need a rubbish right back.. he's your man!
Now I understand why ben white quit England
He needs to have the ball further forward.
All the players do.
That’s the issue.
Rashford or sterling should've been in this squad to make those runs for Trent
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I dont think TAA should be played together with Jude. I feel that Jude is everywhere in that centre. Everytime TAA seemingly looks lost because everyone who needs the pass, is right there with him. All good games from TAA I have seen him play in mid, is when Jude is not with him. The games are extremely difficult to cope I understand that. Combination is key.. Walker was playing in his space that he is comfortable. Its just bad for our lad. I hope one day, he could be a super sub and people will realise just how great a player he is.
Im by no means jumping Trent here. He is my favourite Liverpool player. But watching him yesterday was not pleasant. He looked so lost. I would not want that composure in our midfield and build our entire team around it. It's not worth it.
Southgate is making England's best players look average
I have said this for a long while the problem England as is we have world class players but not a world class manager. It doesn't matter who you pick if your not playing to the attributes of Trent no runners no focus getting behind the back line... the problem is tactical and that's down to the Manager 🤔🙄
Kyle walker isn't giving us anything going forward. Trent should play right back
Mainoo should play 75 minutes and Gallagher 15 instead of Trent. That's it. Bench him or play him as right back. Football is a simple game
So much always written about Trent because he divides opinion. Media over hype his abilities (probably afraid of being black balled for interviews) when in reality which pro couldn't focus on crossing/deadball and be slightly better than average. When he's absent for Liverpool, they do fine (someone else steps up) and if he were that class of elite midfielder then that'd be his position for Liverpool. This pundit will wax lyrical but he's not being balanced. Trent doesn't have anything more than the other players. Am even surprised that with not much competitive experience, he gets to start in midfield in the Euros (because maybe he should have been playing midfield for England for the past 2 years if this was anything like a well thought out plan.....)
What would anyonee do with David Beckham today? Thats Trents perfect position. The right midfield position (with a fullback behind him) that don't exist in this modern system.
Ta daa... Someone with the right answer. Well said mate.
To be fair TAA in the midfield with Rice and Bellingham can't quite control the game
Why put him on LB, Trippier has been pretty bad, along with a midfield 3 of Bellingham, Rice and Gallagher
Trent can float into the midfield forming a midfield 4, helping with numerical advantage there
Trent playing against teams using a low block. Allows him to drift into midfield. Trent in midfield against a high pressing team is a bit of a disaster. For England Trent or Kyle playing full Back is opposition dependant. Trent is not Toni Kroos. If he closer to Beckham who similarly was not as good in central midfield
Trent is a right back. Either play him there or drop him.
Best thing for Trent is to step away from that awful team, it can destroy you. He clearly wouldnt do that, so ideally be best on the bench and come on with the players that suit his game, bowen, watkins, eze etc. thats the more dynamic lineup and when the pressure is off.
Love watching all the games bar england, they are so boring.
Thank god today is a non england day.
Enjoy the footy. ✌️⚽
Make a video on Foden, Kane and Rice who have put in disasterclass performances and leave saka and Trent alone.
Trent will never be the problem. Take him out of midfield and put Gallagher in, drop Saka and play Trent on the right but a little deeper. Allows for more balance and you still have the best passer of the ball in dangerous positions to provide. I would also play Palmer on the left.
What you are not saying explicitely, but ends up being the takeaway remains the same: It's a Southgate thing.
HOW do you play Trent yet the entire team around him does not play in a way that suits him? It makes no sense. Whether he stays in midfield, goes back to right side or hell, comes off the bench. If the players around him aren't told to make runs on a constant basis, if your striker keeps dropping low at the same time, then Trent is basically useless.
What England have shown is tactical malpractice and they are LUCKY to have yet to be punished for their lack of coherence and rythm.
As you said, they're not close to Spain and Germany at the moment. The changes for them to be much closer are not the hardest to make, but I don't trust Southgate to make the right adjustements.
And the players will keep doing whatever they're doing and it'll keep on looking weird on the pitch.
Personally Taa needs a full preseason to recalibrate to a midfield position/characteristics with his club first before England.. experimenting at a euro was setting him up to fail.... giving him next to no outlets for his passing sets him as a scapegoat.... Rice in his natural position was poor,
Irrespective of TAa. Fodden was poor kane was poor.
he's just become a scapegoat which is unfair because he's simply one of the best right backs ever
Regardless of what you think, Trent is not a midfielder. His best work is at right back and the stats prove this. I don't want to see him there at Liverpool. All our midfielders are far more accomplished and dynamic. He slows the game down and doesn't look comfortable on the ball when under pressure. Also off the ball he's rarely in the game. He simply doesn't press enough. I hope Slott stands his ground and doesn't indulge him. From a Liverpool perspective Trent in midfield makes us to open. It handicaps us.
I think Trent has real problems now…. No one doubts his talents…
But he needs to decide how to play…
Personally…. His best position is RB looking forward… BUT he does not want to defend…
This causes a huge problem for Liverpool defensively
I honestly believe if he was switched on with his defending as an example… we dont lose that CL final goal to Madird in Paris… 🤷♂️
He can only play midfield if you give him a free role and have the rest of the 10 men be a good enough team to pick up the slack with defending.
You need a perfect system and team to play Trent in midfield.
If Trent plays in Midfield for LFC next season forget winning the league.
Trent honestly only works in Real Madrid… in a free role in that team with a league that has less or no competeition.
Id love to see Trent keep RB at Liverpool and do what hes doing… BUT try to commmit to defending more.
3 at the back with trent inverted. bellingham declan and foden in the middle. then gordon on the left. drop walker. and play possession football. this team should not prioritize defense when they have an incredible attacking team. better to eat more goals and actually generate what this team can generate instead of ceding possession in the name of "balance."
the problem with England is it's not a team, it's a group of 11 individuals. It's been this way since the 2000's. You need to create an England team not a group of English players
Trent isn't a midfielder ...he's a right back who's not that great at defending...he's good in dead ball situations,and long shots sometimes...his long passing is brilliant,but he needs a lot of the pitch infront of him ... 50 years a red...YNWA
Kane drops too deep, he and Foden shd be above the midfield line to draw out the opposition middle and right flank.
the problem is the manager....totally out of his depth, should of won the last two tournaments this squad .
He’s never a midfielder. And he’s not the only problem E ngland have midfielders that can’t defend a striker that’s static and falls over to often .wont be long till there home again .
Only United fans are crying trent this trent that. The problem is foden and Kane dropping in for no fking reason. If he has Watkins and Gordon infront he'd be so amazing
Trent only has Saka to pass to imagine he had Watkins and Gordon he'd have got 3 assists by now
@@tesleemhussein5217 exactly imagine yesterday if trent wasn't subbed off and instead they subbed in Watkins and eze. Watkins would have scored at least 1 goal for sure. The amount of times he tried to run and didn't get a pass. And these United fans want to play Gallagher maino there. Says rice needs help. look at vitinha rodri wasn't rice world class but he can't play solo CDM with the other 2 going forward lol.
@gemthemage idk why people hate Trent so much like they say he's not a RB cuz he can't defend but in midfield he's been better defensively. As a lfc fan people saying he plays bad for England is shocking like his Serbia game is better than most of his lfc games he made 1 low risk mistake. They just jealous a guy who they bullied at RB is a potential elite midfielder already better than their clubs players
@@tesleemhussein5217 if you watch yesterday's game he made more defensive plays than rice but oh nooo it's trent we can't see 🤣🤣
@gemthemage Bruh Rice was awful whys he trying to dribble in box when 5 players are open. I'm legit seeing people say Trent isn't a midfielder because he's not dominating top 5 team England's midfield which even if true means 98% of prem mids aren't midfielders. Its as dumb as calling pros Sunday league anyways do u think Trent starts next game I hope he don't and England loses, racist ass country poor Raheem sterling
100% agree, and have spent most of this week making comments to the same effect to idiots who do not know their footy. England have 2 huge issues (1) their left side is non existent (Trippier has had the worst season of his life and is playing out of position so hardly a shock that he is not up to the mark, and Foden is a 10 not a LW so again hardly a shock). (2) Kane no longer has the legs or the strength to be a target man - we should be starting with Watkins or Tony and bring Kane on in 2nd half.
None of this has anything to do with Trent
Why are Liverpool fans taking it personal.
Well....not the only problem
I'm glad Jones came home they didn't deserve him neither.
Trent is not the problem…. England forwards don’t have the movement of Salah, Diaz and Nunez. He has no one to pass to. You saw he passed to Guehi when he made a run. Rice was aweful, lost the ball near penalty box, misplaced tons of passes. Foden and Bellingham invisible. Kane don’t move to find space.
Trent is part of the problem. He should be playing out wide. Put the best players in their correct position and not round pegs into square holes. He's not a midfielder. We have better players with more dynasim.
@@sarahashun1180southgate put him there to be scapegoated he never played cdm before or burney football and front 3 standing still
@@andrewwright4195 He played as a number 8 and not as a cdm. Rice played that role. Trent’s the one who’s always said that he would like to play in midfield. But there is more to it than spraying around Hollywood passes. I hope Liverpool don’t indulge him. Needless to say, I don’t blame Trent for England’s woes. I blame the manager for his lack of acumen and tactical ability. He’s got an abundance of talent and if he put each player in their best positions and adopts a better system, I’m sure England’s performance would be much better.
@@sarahashun1180 it was clear they told him not to go foward for trent to play he needs runners and if we playing burney football don't play him at all in my opinion
@@sarahashun1180 he can be midfielder but need someone like rodri to help him and runners
Put Trent in the team where no one runs, he still performs well stats wise, NOT on the eye test, which everyone wants to solely judge him on.
Then takes him off and brings on the players - namely a striker - who might actually offer him runs in Watkins; Replaces him with a player who gives energy that should’ve been beside him in the first place (NOT Rice).
Just all wrong from GS. He’s not tactically proficient enough to run a team with players of this calibre imo.
If Trent is the problem what was the problem before he was an England regular?
Is right lad ynwa
Playing Trent as a CDM, when he didn’t play that way in the friendlies, he played more of an 8, and now is expected to sit back is not the way to use him. It completely highlights what he’s bad at and stifles what he’s good at.
Bench him. For his own protection. This is only ruining his confidence and he’s become the scapegoat. Southgate is incompetent and he’s going on about not having Kalvin Phillips and yet not tweaking the system for accommodate for that.
Asking Trent to all of a sudden play CDM when he didn’t get a chance to practice that specific role is a crime.
He deserves better and until Southgate can do that, I want him nowhere near starting because I’m sick of him being bashed by the press.
I just hope this doesn’t ruin his confidence for the season.
I’ve never seen him look so timid, like he’s terrified of making a mistake and being blamed.
And yet, he still got blamed.
Trent goes missing .. he jogs and walks through most games waiting for glory passes. It’s his attitude . This isn’t about only England , Trent has not been thriving in last two seasons for Liverpool. We were unbeaten when he was injured. He is not a world class right back and definitely not a world class midfielder.. all premier teams targets our right hand side. He needs to change attitude and do the work. Trent’s form is exactly the same as it’s been for Liverpool… kicks away possession time and time again.
Trent was poor, wandering about, lethargic, not commiting fully to his passes, far too languid. Seemed like he thought he could just stroll the game. Didn't like him mf at all, not just Southgates fault on this one, Trent has to take alot of the resposibility
Dayum loz I was a fan of the long hair but gotta say your looking fresh😎
We need harry kane to just play as a fucking striker and make his runs instead of litening to shitgate
Rivals was saying to put Trent in midfield. And now that he has been playing in midfield they have been abusing him. They have been calling him every name under the sun.
So which one is it?
Play him at right back or in midfield.
The problem is Garth Southgate. His style of play is boring, rubbish.
England scored the first goal and then they did Stoke city tactics where they put 10 players behind the ball. I said once England scored the first goal to make it 2,3,4 and then make substitutions and England didn't do that and got punished. So the way I see it the sooner Southgate is sacked the better because he lack awareness. The ability to change tactic and formation when the game isn't going England's way. He sticks with the same boring tactics and formation and as long as he is England manager I don't see England winning anything on the international stage.