Edison Polyphone Concert

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  • čas přidán 12. 08. 2011
  • Edison phonograph with Polyphone attachment playing a 5" Edison Bell Record(Lambert)
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Komentáře • 66

  • @DixiesNewSong
    @DixiesNewSong Před 2 lety +7

    What a beautiful sounding concert! So many of these machines suffer from speed stability issues but yours sounds dead on.

  • @ramonasidneybaker
    @ramonasidneybaker Před 9 lety +8

    The tune is the widely recorded dance number from the early to mid 1890's called "Dancing on the Housetops". This tune was recorded by many house bands on brown wax cylinders.

  • @roybo1930
    @roybo1930 Před 8 lety +12

    These 5" cylinders are just COOL! I Love the Copper Plumbing 45 angle pipe collar on the front horn! When it comes to putting these machines together, You gotta` do what You can do!

    • @Chungustav
      @Chungustav Před 4 lety

      Ya I don think that was from the time period haha

  • @nathanmoser1
    @nathanmoser1 Před 12 lety +6

    I never knew a celluloid this size ever existed!

  • @back2skooldaze
    @back2skooldaze Před 8 lety +25

    I bet back in the day you had to be super rich to buy one of those!!! That must have been the top HI FI of its time :)

    • @lanchanoinguyen2914
      @lanchanoinguyen2914 Před 4 lety +6

      and now also

    • @thekitowl
      @thekitowl Před 4 lety +6

      back2skooldaze back in 1900 these machines cost approx £2.2shillings in the Uk . That’s about £250 in today’s money . Although the average wage was
      Around £100 a year , so really only for the upper classes.

  • @johntyjp
    @johntyjp Před 6 lety +6

    never thought I d see one of those in working order again!!

    • @thekitowl
      @thekitowl Před 4 lety +2

      Johnty J P there are quite a few on eBay. I’ve just bought a nice example with records.

    • @panda-goat
      @panda-goat Před 4 lety +1

      @@thekitowl edison cylinder phonographs yes, but not this model. the concert models (the ones that play the larger cylinders) are already difficult to find, but this one has 2 reproducers which makes it extremely rare.

  • @SearTrip
    @SearTrip Před rokem +1

    That’s a rare beastie, and a beautiful machine.

  • @bobbyroy84
    @bobbyroy84 Před 6 lety +3

    Geeeze! These Cylinder`s were Big! This is just AWESOME! Guess They ran out of room to finish the song! I have several 78 RPM Records That do this! One is a Brunswick by Helen Morgan! "Winter Overnight" The Eccentric Groove hits the final Vibraphone note! A couple Brunswick Record`s I have The Final note is in the run in grooves! Old Records are AWESOME! Your Machine is BEAUTIFUL, And Strange with Two Sound boxes, And Horns!

  • @clydesight
    @clydesight Před 10 lety +17

    That is an impressive machine. It sounds great for it's time and it looks wonderful. Clever way to imitate stereo also. Imagine back in the early 20th Century, the Edison Company came up with this idea. And we think we are so clever today! Thanks for the video!

    • @Metal-Possum
      @Metal-Possum Před 9 lety +2

      ***** They were also clever enough to electrocute an entire elephant to death :)

    • @clydesight
      @clydesight Před 9 lety +11

      Alex Paulsen Yes, that is true and it is wasn't just an elephant that Edison and Co. killed in an attempt to make the public fear Westinghouse/Tesla's AC current. However, that has nothing to do with the invention of the "talking machine" and it in no way diminishes the achievement Edison made in sound recording. They are completely separate issues, especially since Edison "talking machines" were all wind-up!

    • @Chungustav
      @Chungustav Před 4 lety

      @@Metal-Possum if you steal the invention of the light bulb, you are going to get some wrath

    • @davidlogansr8007
      @davidlogansr8007 Před 4 lety +1

      Alex Paulsen using Tesla/Westinghouse alternating current to prove how dangerous A/C really is! Point taken by the Thousands of Lineman who died on the altar of “progress “!

    • @HMV101
      @HMV101 Před 3 lety

      @@Chungustav
      If you are implying that Edison ‘stole’ the idea of electric lighting, he didn't. While there were others, like Swann in Great Britain playing around with the idea, Edison was first to come up with a practical, affordable, safe and reliable domestic/industrial system.
      The outcome of others working on the problem around the same time were laboratory-bound curiosities by comparison.
      Edison developed a complete system including all the necessary plugs, sockets, switches, fuses, metering, wiring and other stuff now taken for granted. Safety was also uppermost in his mind which is why later he felt duty-bound to oppose the high tension system offered by Westinghouse. (In spite of the beliefs of his conspiracy theories disciples, Telsla had nothing to do with the development of alternating current. AC transmission technology was around and in use before was born).
      Of course, Edison failed to factor in the public’s allowance for ‘collateral damage’ where the thousands of fatalities due y high-tension distribution involving both electrcal workers and consumers was tolerated in exchange for lower power bills.

  • @CrisVangel1958
    @CrisVangel1958 Před 9 lety +2

    Very nice! You never see those type of cylinders anywhere and even less, a machine to play them.. thank you!

  • @trixzitailz4151
    @trixzitailz4151 Před rokem +1

    Used to collect phonos and cylinders even had a Columbia. Ag 5 inch machine and a number of 5 inch brown wax. Never heard a polyphone machine play before. Sounds good but I'll bet Sounds a lot better in person.

  • @BrucesPhonograph
    @BrucesPhonograph Před 10 lety +3

    Lambert cylinders were well ahead of their time when most cylinder recording was done on brown wax cylinders. The celluloid Lamberts also didn't harbor mold and effectively did not wear out. Concert Lambert cylinders are rare, rarer than normal Lamberts which are also seldom seen.

    • @therestorationofdrwho1865
      @therestorationofdrwho1865 Před 5 lety +1

      What are they made of?

    • @thenorthamericanphonograph1039
      @thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Před 4 lety

      @@therestorationofdrwho1865 Celluloid, which is a plastic made of camphor, nitric acid and cellulose (cotton fiber). It is an inflammable plastic, but makes a great record surface.

  • @EmmetEarwax
    @EmmetEarwax Před 12 lety +1

    These old phonographs - all bare machinery !

  • @brentfisher902
    @brentfisher902 Před 10 lety +7

    This stereo like effect is referred to a "Duophonic" where the signal is delayed and fed into a nearby separate channel. In the 1960s there were near-stereo vinyl LP records of recordings that only exist in mono that were labeled as "Electronically re-channeled for stereo." Megasample Protracker Amiga MOD music often uses this effect to cut down on the file size. I suppose if you could invert the polarity of the signal coming from the horn you could play mains hum recordings without the hum if you got the delay down to 1/50th respectively 1/60 of a second.

    • @clydesight
      @clydesight Před 10 lety +1

      Thanks for the info about "Duophonic". I have a bunch of records from the early 60's that are "Electronically enhanced for stereo". They never sounded quite like stereo, but had an interesting sound, none the less. I've played around with digital software (Audacity) and recorded one mono track, duped it to a second track and then offset the second track by 0,06 seconds. It gives a similar effect. Audacity is free, so anyone can try this trick!

    • @CrisVangel1958
      @CrisVangel1958 Před 9 lety

      It's not a stereo-like effect at all, stereo implies a different signal to both channels, this is just feeding the same signal to both channels, maybe would give you a delay on one channel or echo, or perhaps just a bit more volume, but stereo, it is not, not even close. Electronically re-channeled for stereo records sound horrible, basically they send some frequencies to the right and other frequencies to the left, it hurts your ears to listen to after a few minutes.

    • @luvmyrecords
      @luvmyrecords Před 6 lety +1

      Capitol Records actually marketed "Duophonic" records for a time.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 Před 4 lety

      @@clydesight I would keep mono compatibility and use the graphic equalizer

    • @bigcheeses
      @bigcheeses Před 2 lety

      in those 'electrically separated' recordings generally they'll put a band pass filter on it and pan some of the lower frequencies onto the left and some of the higher onto the right. Sometimes visa versa, other times a different blend. A lot of the time it sounds awful to my ears! Completely unnecessary and a clear cash grab. Much like some 'remastered' editions of songs or albums released recently. Some might be cleaned up but often they compress it no end and lose a lot of the dynamics

  • @gordonchadwell2412
    @gordonchadwell2412 Před 9 lety +3

    I have a Edison standard D which is for a cylinder machine, quite common. It works great. I also, like most people have a Cd player. I wonder how many Cd players. And how many Cds, will last the test of time, these remarkable machines have. I do not think many will.

  • @Borriaudio
    @Borriaudio Před 11 lety +7

    Nice machine and Cylinder Lambert style (Edison Bell) concerts are certainly treasures. I make the brown wax, spiral core recording blanks. I will be soon in the market for an Edison concert Phonograph to make cylinders with.

  • @antiquefreak3128
    @antiquefreak3128 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic!!!

  • @Christian-Klaff
    @Christian-Klaff Před 4 lety

    Was für ein traumhaft wundervoll einzigartig außergewöhnliches schönes Gerät! So was hätte ich auch gerne in meiner Sammlung!

  • @back2skooldaze
    @back2skooldaze Před 8 lety +1

    BEAUTIFUL That is an amazing machine :)

  • @GramophonicReevolution

    Beautiful

  • @MrPillowStudios
    @MrPillowStudios Před 2 lety

    Awesome.

  • @HappyDiscoDeath
    @HappyDiscoDeath Před 5 lety +1

    That's cool!

  • @nathanmoser1
    @nathanmoser1 Před 10 lety +6

    Strange how it ends so abrubtly-

    • @thekitowl
      @thekitowl Před 4 lety +1

      Nathan Moser because Edison saw no future in disc’s to store music on. He was wrong as records remained popular for years , stretching to just over 20m per side & in stereo to boot.

  • @musicom67
    @musicom67 Před 12 lety +1

    early example of creating 'depth' in a recording by making a permanent delay-echo in all playback.... Also allowed them a new patent.

  • @MisterTalkingMachine
    @MisterTalkingMachine Před 12 lety +3

    this is not stereo, the polyphone has two reproducers on the same groove, they play the same sound two times with a little time between

  • @BrunermanVideo
    @BrunermanVideo Před 9 lety +1

    Wow!

  • @justicia6841
    @justicia6841 Před 5 lety +1

    HERMOSO

  • @eugenchirila4285
    @eugenchirila4285 Před 8 lety +5

    Early STEREO era ! It is teh first gramophone STEREO. I'm joking, but I love it !.

    • @therestorationofdrwho1865
      @therestorationofdrwho1865 Před 5 lety

      Wait is it stereo?

    • @esroberto1
      @esroberto1 Před 4 lety +2

      Not exactly stereo, more like slapback delay effect; the comes out of the front horn a few milliseconds (sounds like about 40ms to me) before it comes out of the rear horn. Each horn has its own reproducer, arranged one after the other.

    • @davidlogansr8007
      @davidlogansr8007 Před 4 lety

      Robert Wright I suspect its more like a reverb effect that was so popular in the late ‘50s early ‘60’s. A close friend had one in his Mercury Comet Calliente’! It sounded spectacular on certain songs Miss Toni Fischer’s the Big Hurt, which he had on a 4track cartridge which was a predecessor of the ubiquitous 8 track of a few years later. It was dreadful however on Baseball games and “news” breaks! Fortunately you could turn it off or reduce its effects as it was a factory add on under the dash near the convertible top switch. I have only seen one other like it, also on a Mercury, a 1968 Mercury Marauder with the factory 429? V-8

  • @phonotical
    @phonotical Před 3 měsíci

    Good lord the original 'stereo' 😅

  • @Borriaudio
    @Borriaudio Před 11 lety +1

    Wonderful Machine, do you have large horns (56") for it, Polyphones are awesome!

  • @EmmetEarwax
    @EmmetEarwax Před 12 lety +1

    c.1900 -and already fussing 'round with stereo. Well,color photograph actually preceded B & W photography, but didn't become economically feasible until into the 20th century !

  • @RagtimeFreak86
    @RagtimeFreak86 Před 12 lety

    very cool machine! But whats the name of that fun tune???

  • @duttaluri
    @duttaluri Před 12 lety +1

    how will it play stereo? because the grooves made by one needle will be cut off by the second one while making...so hwo is this possible? later stereo records have a V shaped grove on both sides the recordings were made..but this seems different..kindly thrwo some light..thanks

  • @therestorationofdrwho1865

    What is it recorded onto?

  • @MisterTalkingMachine
    @MisterTalkingMachine Před 12 lety +1

    sorry if my english isn´t as good as yours, i usually talk (and write) in spanish

  • @arnaldoalves1362
    @arnaldoalves1362 Před rokem

    Se não fosse o Thomas Edison. Tava ruim ate hoje para se enventar coisa que fuciona. So chia porque agulha no começo não era apropiadas mas foi bom o começo.para hoje melhorar. E chia também por ta sujas as trilhas do sucos.aonde passa a agulha para tocar .ou gravou assim.mas hoje ja se pode fazer a mesma coisa. Mas com agulha apropiadas e gravação boa ai nem chia e ainda sai o som limpo sem xieiras.e eu particularmente eu gosto desse tipo de aparelho. Lembra a infância diferente. E época que as pessoas respeitava os outros. Pricipalmente os pais. E os mais velhos .e gostei desse Vídeo

  • @michaelmcgee8543
    @michaelmcgee8543 Před 12 lety +1

    I got the impression this was enhanced with plug in electricity cause the cylinder was playing so smooth.this seems to be an early form of hi fi sound.not stereo but mono hi fi. Primitive version

    • @thenorthamericanphonograph1039
      @thenorthamericanphonograph1039 Před 4 lety +1

      The motor of this machine has 3 large springs, it can play about 8 of the large 5" cylinders per full wind. So it can run for about 20 minutes on a winding.

  • @gabrielepasqualoni7362

    Stereo ???

    • @Altchannel2988
      @Altchannel2988 Před 4 lety

      Gabriele Pasqualoni no not stereo. The needles play the same groove but with a tiny delay so you get a sort of echo and effect

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    @lowlightpiano7110 Před rokem

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