Mikiphoney - the FAKE 1920s Pocket wind-up Record Player
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- Taking the Mikiphone - A look at a modern day replica of the 1920s Pocket Phonograph.
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Taking the Mikiphone - A look at a modern day replica of the 1920s Pocket Phonograph.
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Saber stylus phonograph? mp0?
I hear Mikiphone but, especially since I live less than an hour away from the mouse house, I think Mickey and Disney.
...and oddly enough the Mikiphone came first.
Well I hope there is maybe one person that can lend you a proper mikiphone for a video purpose.
@@Techmoan eh, this playing on a prerecorded disc thing will never catch on
"That beautiful, hard-to-reproduce analog sound". Sarcasm level: British
Oof! Steady now!
Immediately followed by the record skipping.
@@Redhotsmasher aka normal record behavior.
His sarcasm was on fleek! :P
Oh no, we've gone plaid.
Imagine surviving World War I and then dying to the sound of this...
...or dying *because* of the sound of this.
this is a modern repo, the original 1920s mikiphone actually sounds 100x better.
@@gureguru4694 Nice Mori pfp
Man, this thing is a goldmine for noise musicians; imagine the samples they could get from this monster.
"This Mikiphone knock-off thing has terrible build quality!" *bangs fist into desk and the Videophone '93 handset falls off*
7:37 "beautiful analogue sound" *screeching intensifies*
"WHY-WHY-WHY-WHY-WHY-WHY"
@@deathmorphosis Thank you, I actually chuckled at this. 😆 I didn't notice during my first view of this episode.
Audiophiles pay massive bucks for that wonderful analog hi-fi warmth
That's just the sound of Mikki's ghost screaming because they butchered his invention.
@@zanfr123 *Acoustic, not analog
Just the tiniest smidge of wow and flutter, there. ;-)
Sounded bob-on to me. Then again I am comparing it to the Rokblok.
@@Techmoan HAHAHA!! True enough. Compared to that, it's definitely pro-level quality.
@@LMacNeill Like a vintage Nakamishi, or NakaMiki
LMacNeill --- Not too much wow, but a lot of stutter....
Definitely lots of WOW and FLUTTER...as in WOW, I didn’t know music of the 1920s could could be reproduced in quite such...uhhmm...quality, it literally made my stomach FLUTTER (...and my ears may be bleeding...even the one I’m largely deaf in!)!
The problem is you recorded this Digitally so the analog smoothness is lost :/
"This record cannot be played on old tin boxes, no matter what they are fitted with."
(Tubular Bells cover text, 1973)
I kid you not, when it first started playing my cat left the room and she's deaf!
"she's deaf" that's what she wants you to think... :D
lmao
@@joejoe4games Yeah, a cat ignoring you when you try to communicate with it is just a cat being a cat, not deafness. XD
She just felt the low quality vibes
Your Cats not deaf,only smart!
With a careful application of a large (2lb or greater) hammer, I would say that it would be possible to..
A) make everything fit into the tin
B) improve the sound quality
C) make a follow up video showing the results
Blender perhaps?
Disclaimer: Multiple bots were harmed while making this video.
I hope so.
😧😳
Joke doesn’t make sense. Bots would only be involved after its made....
"Mikiphone - only to be used for music reproduction in horror movies..."
The fake one is, but as you can hear in the following video the original is quite a different beast... sounds so much better: czcams.com/video/HsalqhwVsuw/video.html
@@Riskteven agreed
Reminded me of Bioshock.
@@LogiForce86 Quite the difference!
@@Risktevenboth, I meant the first level where you hear this creepy phonograph in the background
'Put a sock in it', you learn something new everyday. Cheers 👍🏼
...and since it's hand-wound, we now also know where the term "cranky" came from! Just listening to it would make you feel that way.
That's a small player. Must be some kind of record.
It's a record in recorded records...
It's not genuine, it's a wind-up.
@@6581punk It's a pun, Woosh.
@Robert Swann lolol
@@kovyvuri So was mine :)
Audio snob in 1927 :"Mikiphones will damage your records!"
In 1927 there where no audio snobs. People where just amazed to hear music outside of live production. They had zero comparison. I get your j/k but yeah
@@Deftonesdsm Are you sure there wasn't people decrying the modern disc record and how it's not as good as the cylinder?
@@Deftonesdsm In a way there were: When John Philip Sousa the composer were introduced to the record player he said “The vocal cord will be eliminated by a process of evolution, as was the tail of man when he came from the ape.” Or to put it more in everyday language: When people find out they can hear music with a press of a button (at that time it was actually a turn of a crank) they will stop making their own music by singing or playing an instrument. So he felt that music made live by humans were better than a mechanical reproduction.
"...the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This player will self-destruct the record in 5..4..3..."
Congratulations on finding something worse than a Crossley. 😂
just _barely_
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Crosley's aren't as bad as audiophiles would have you believe. Especially those who don't know the difference between a record player and a turntable.
@@writerpatrick I'll second that. They put out the C200 direct drive which is just a ATLP120 without the pop-up target light and a AT3600 cartridge. Same Hanpin parts. However, I would advise against Crosley's entry level tables due to the absurd tracking force on those cartridges. Some say otherwise, but I had a Numark PT with a similar tonearm/cartridge that has indeed done some damage to a few records. They should have marketed those for 7in scratch DJs as it has adequate tracking force for scratching.
For worst turntable I nominate the Jensen JTA-470, also sold in the UK as the Bush CTT939. VWestlife reviewed one, and it is an orgy of plastic and despair:
czcams.com/video/rXig4Jt-eAg/video.html
That beautiful hard to reproduce analog sound... I cracked up
Just needs a bit of WD40 on the record to reduce the friction :)
I'm getting one to use on the train, I'll have the carriage to myself.
As someone else mentioned try a record of the same era, 1920's they're way quieter and designed to be played with steel needles, but lets be honest that's a truly awful 'crapophone'. -later 78's like the one here were made specifically for electric pick ups and play wayyyyy to loud with in acoustic machines.
This is some straight up Bioshock tech.
Would be great for a cosplay
6:03 Daffy Duck singing in a bathtub....the first thing that came to my mind.
Mat, you promised me that you would never play that recording of me singing in the shower...?!?!?! :)
00:56 is that a Mikiphone in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Giuseppe “Excuse me while I whip this out” 😁
"That hard to reproduce, analog sound". I'm totally convinced- I see why audiophiles hate digital now 😉😉😉
5:51 - So THIS is what it sounds like when doves cry... or this is how to make doves cry, or something.
If it's got ears and feelings it'll definitely cry upon hearing this.
"hard to reproduce analog... analog... analog... analog... analog..." BANG! "sound"
"What has it got in its pocketses, Precious?"
"No no no! Filthy racketses played by filthy hobbitses!"
Certainly a wind up and it does take the Miki so perfect name really.
Ok what the hell does "take the miki" mean? Is that some like cockney slang or something?
@@Fanuc_Operator1990 Mickey Bliss = Piss or at least that is what I was told.
@@dcflake5645 weird. Thank you
A mikey in America is a drug you slip someone to make the pass out and steal their shit I was like that makes no sense lol
Taking the piss is a Commonwealth pejorative term meaning to take liberties at the expense of others, or to be joking, or to be unreasonable.
Taking the Mickey (Mickey Bliss, Cockney rhyming slang), taking the Mick or taking the Michael is another term for making fun of someone.
These terms are most widely used in the United Kingdom, Ireland, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia.
(Extracted from Wikipedia)
This would be an excellent effect for a horror film. I’d use it. In my cellar.
You monster! 😱
Oh my... That's what the CIA uses to extract information from prisoners >.>
Ben H.
In a way, because playing the music with a mikiphone is considered too inhumane, so they just use it as a blunt objet to beat the subject with.
@@MDPToaster Fair point :P
honestly, I would love to see these remade with modern precision materials (high quality) at an extremely affordable price. when I say modern, i'm talking about making the exact same style of analogue player ( or one that doesn't look like a battery powered overblown hair flatiron) but including such modern developments like diamond needles, a more robust and pre dampened sound box, and efficient spring torque that contains the tension longer for extended plays, and the same portability. As a novelty, it's sublime...as a practical analogue back up when the lights go out...it's genius. Too bad the India reproduction is such absolute rubbish....wish another swiss or german company would reproduce these for a modern audience.
Keevan Sixx a CNC shop could make one really well. Just source your own needles.
As a vinyl record has a non linear audio spectrum where there is less bass than treble and as the volume of these things was heavily dependant on a high tracking weight playing vinyl would sound extremelly scratchy and very quiet.
there is a new good one www.ebay.ie/itm/Gramophone-mini-portable-Mikiphone-replica-from-early-20s-Great-quality-/321999259352
You might as well just drop $400+ on a regular Mikiphone or the Japanese knock-off Mikkyphone as diamond needles wouldn't even work because you need the murder-wasp-sized needle due to the larger grooves of 78s
This comment is amazing. It fails to understand how massively flawed the design is (it relies massively on a hell of a lot of tracking force), it demands that its "extremely affordable" (ie cheap enough that he can buy it) whilst demanding modern features that couldn't be delivered at that price point and completely fails to realise that mechanical players of vinyl records are uncommon for a reason and just assumes it'll work with no understanding of either how records or how mechanical players work ... It's like a comment someone would make up to make fun of CZcams commenters. Utterly clueless and yet confidently making demands of technology they don't understand even a little bit. Amazing.
Man. I gotta say Matt, these videos are an absolute pleasure to watch. Every time there is a new Techmoan upload, I watch it. Never missed a single one, and given the wide range that you cover over all this time that really is saying something. Expertly delivered, informative and often educational along the way.
That sounds like nightmare fuel.
I LOVE the "put a sock in it" explanation and hearing the improvement. thanks techmoan.
WARNING : Sounds best when turned off..... LOL
That record is comically mis-pressed... And I would not be surprised if that machine you got were 40+ years old, new-old-stock.
care to elaborate?
@@caramelldansen2204 It's most likely a bunch of old parts that someone has had in storage for years combined with a bunch of other stuff that was substituted out because they didn't have the original parts on hand. Throw it all together and you've got a "new" Mikiphone.
Nah. Laying in polish shed through winter that beauty can be 5 year old
we need to hear some death metal through this system....
@Sean Wilkinson lol true mate...
but it might make the recent pop music sound better ;-)
Yeah, and some black metal, too... this sounds trve. Trvly horrible... :D
@Sean Wilkinson I imagine that's what Vogon poetry sounds like. Hold on, my major intestine feels funny...
@@turpialito A man of culture!
@@Tacsmoker dirty bit
Mikiphones were designed at a time (1924) when electric recordings were just about to appear so they're not really designed to play more than acoustic recordings (so anything made later will make the motor and soundbox struggle playing it). It's extremely tricky to make them work properly (but if you're patient at mechanics you can) but if you do it they'll play acoustic or very early electric recordings with no flutter. Frequency range will be very limited but the sound will be acceptable considering its capacities (a mica diaphragm - and a tiny plastic resonator). Early models do not have painted letters and have the same orientation as the replica you have but will have signs of wear of course. It's definitely not an audiophile item even at the time but a marvel of engineering indeed.
The thing is that i'm most curious about - DID THE BOT GET THE SONG OR NOT?
Sony Walkman of the 1920's
The Sitman. You ain't walking with it.
Cliff Richards ice skating around singing, "I'm wound-up for sound..."
Pony Wankelman (well it is a rotary device after all)
More like the "Windman" since you have to keep winding it up for each song!
I never knew were Put A Sock In It! Came from... Thanks! 😊👍
It's like that metal needle is really hurting the poor chap singing :O
ah, nothing like the smooth sounds of cats dying to start the morning ;)
My brother used to have this nice travel record player about the size of an old typewriter case. It held maybe 1 record inside and was a wind up. I used to like playing around with it. He also had this neat mini gramophone from our trip to Edison's winter house in Florida. They sold them in the gift shop and it came with 3 mini wax records. You'd either wind it up or put a battery in (not sure which now) and it would play like an old wind up. Was really cool!
Wife and I both laughed out loud at your “content match” message... bless you Mat
When my daughter was a toddler, she had a walker with all kinds of toys on it. One of them was a button you push and it would make animal noises, but it was loud enough to hear all around the apartment complex. I did the same thing you did with this device, and opened the toy to stuff a bunch of tissues in it. She never noticed, and it cut the sound to about 30% of what it was.
The pop up text of Techmoan are always the best!😂 this is really my all time favorite channel, a true CZcams artist!
Put a sock in it...who knew!
@Michael Deloatch no, never put it in a sock!
I think that tip was to put the dirty smelly sock in it. Where you wouldn't be complaining about the horrible sound but the stink of the sock
That record is too new, from the 50's! You need a record from the 20's (the 1920's) for it to sound somewhat good.
I just recently realized I wasn't even subscribed after watching your videos for a long time. They just always kept being recommended to me. Will definitely subscribe now ofc since your videos are always interesting and you explain the way things work so well
13:41 Pretty much sums up working in the IT department of a company, whose software development has been outsourced to the same country as this replica is manufactured in.
Various ?
Who else binge watches old Techmoan videos every time Mat posts a new one?
As soon as i put the new one on he is usually on the telly for a while indeed.
Autoplay goes trough his whole library for days if you let it go.
For some reason at 7:45 all I could think of was Michael Corleone visiting his father in the hospital.
Your videos are just fascinating. Never a dull moment. I saw the notification that this came through and thought to myself, "Nope. The moment isn't right." I saved it for this evening. That's how much I love your work.
Your "that's not a smudge on your screen" arrow pointed exactly at the crack in my phone and freaked me out; thank you kindly.
So I was told a couple of decades ago when I started collecting vintage records that there was a fundamental difference between records designed for gramophones and Records to be played on electronic devices. when artificial Sapphire needles rolled around and Diamond needles they change how the records were made so you can play gramaphone records on an electronic reproducer but not vice versa if your record is designed to be used on an electronic phonograph the grooves are different and you can damage the record if you play it on a steel needle gramophone. so if your record was made in the 40s and 50s it's probably not designed for a gramophone. anyway that's what I was told that I've been following that rule ever since
Wow 78’s I’ve been waiting for Techmoan to cover this!
Cool episode. Always enjoy the old stuff you manage to find!!!
Tomorrow is a big day for me and I was so stressed. Watching your video calmed me. Thanks for your great content. 😍
No one:
Subtitles every time the record plays: [APPLAUSE]
All I wanted was to hear it play. As far as I can tell, this never happens.
I'm just amazed at how loud that thing is, without any electricity.
I didn't know what wow and flutter was until I started watching your videos! Keep up the good work👍
Interesting, but I think I will wait for a pocket CED player
The thing about the replica though, is it fits in the rubbish bin perfectly.
Would make for a nice waffle maker.
My heart jumped a little bit when saw the thubnail. Ive been wanting a video about a mikkiphone for so long. Theyre so cool
So annoying that someone would make a replica and ignore what made the original so great: That it all fit into the tin!
Thank you for another GREAT video!
Hello from Miki land.... Hungary (VADÁSZ means Hunter )
"A magyarok nagy találmánya"
Anyway, I find it a little amusing how English-speaking people tend to absolutely butcher the pronunciation of Hungarian names. It's not surprising of course, but it makes me giggle. Doesn't detract from the video itself though, which was quite interesting as usual.
Badass!!!
Greetings too from Hungary! :)
Thanks for the translation. If I had paid good money for one of these I'd be hunting HIM!
@@somitomi I'm from Sweden and my language get beaten up all the time. (like I manhandle English)
"wound up production"
Ba-dum tish!
I've always been here,watching your channel,and finally, as a Hungarian, I finally hear about a Hungarian designer! Especially that I have never heard of this device,though I'm familiar with older machinery ( no matter if it is electric,electronic or electromechanic). Thanks Techmoan! Your research is pretty priceless,and valuable. Keep on with it,because I (as a musician and generally a sound guy and retro tech enthusiast) really enjoy your videos,and in this case particularly when I heard you mentioning the words "hungarian designer" and "Miklós Vadász"( I guess) I immediatley lifted my head up,and my eyes started bulging out,while trying to sharpen my ears and listened back to the name a couple of times,-because at first, I almost couldn't believe it. Though if I think it through, it is not so surprising, there were many hungarian inventors and engineers in the past,putting together some, well let's just say "neat" little things for our beloved modern world-(both good and bad stuff as well....anyway-) Before seeing this video, I would've never expected,or presumed that a hungarian would've made an early version of a type of record player, I think this is pretty cool.
Keep on doing these videos, you're doing a nice work, chap! :)
your program is very interesting and inspiring as always. Thank you for your channel :)
6:09 apology accepted! lmao
This would be excellent for scaring critters out of my garden.
Thank you for this. It still fascinates me they could make and play music recordings with no electricity. Love that.
Thanks to you Techmoan , I saw things I never knew existed....greetings from Serbia !
"Most of antique vinyls worth very little (of nothing)" - finally someone was bold enough to say that.
0:56 *Is that a Mikiphone in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?*
The man:yes this is a mikiphone in my pocket,but im also happy to see you!
Is that a Mikiphone replica in several of your pockets, or are you just happy to see me?
Keep making great videos! love what you do :)
Whatever this dude talks about, I’m instantly hooked.... top quality work!
It sounded like one of those recorded musical interludes heard in The Goon Show, well until it failed to explode.
2:42 *hey that was the country Homer Simpson was talking about*
Lmao
Saludos desde Uruguay!!!
Yes my country :D
I had never seen, or even heard of this device before. Thanks for making this video, it was really very interesting.
I love this channel so much.
Very interesting device even if the reproduction is flawed, thanks for sharing. I have to assume that the "portability" of the device takes a hit from the need to fit a few 10" 78's in your pocket in addition to the player.
Someone's 'Taking the Miki' 😊
Honestly, a lot of the charm of this particular video is how Mat channels his barely-disguised contempt for the reproduction's quality into the kind of dry British humor many people know and love around the world. ;)
I love these videos! Think I have gone thrue them all soon.
What a finish on that 78!
Great video fella, thanks.
Flippin' eck!
Thank you for making me laugh. I never seen something like this so it was also kind of informative and you ended with great advice not to buy that thing.
I actually own one of those made in India 78 phono. I have to say, it might not have the best finishing, but the mechanism works perfectly. In fact, the needle lasts quite more than one record and the sound never fades.
Nice demonstration! Enjoyed this!
2:42 Of course it is worth buying the antique. It can go into the museum I assume you are opening with the collection of stuff you’ve bought over the years. 😄
I'm beginning to think that some of the stuff he shows ends up in the bin after the video.
@@user2C47 yeah i was thinking that a while back as well.
Or he just gives it away with christmas to his family haha. I'd do that...
I think at this point he just buys interesting stuff to make a video and then sees how to get rid of it.
I suppose a lot of stuff could go back onto ebay as well.
No it is not worth it the cost of the original is almost the cost of the bills!!!!
I'm impressed with how decent the original Mikiphone sounded, basically similar to many of the children's record players made in the '50s and '60s. I had one as a kid that a friend once call a "Black & Decker" turntable; the needle would shred any record put under it.
Is there a better start to a Saturday than a new Techmoan video?
Wow!!! So crazy! Thank you for spending the money to show all of us this ol thang.
"The man in gauze, the man in gauze, King RAMSES!"
"Return the slab!"
k98757 “or suffer my curse”
Eustace: “What’s your offer!”
I love that episode so much.
CRACKIN reference right there
I think you have that wrong, that was just a curse... this... I don't know what this sounds like... it's like it came from a gate to something that even hell keeps the gate closed on...
Last time I was this early this meme was relatively new
this sums up every skymall "antique" replica ever made!
love watching your content, you don't make short videos and i love it ever since the first video (2014 Polaroid cube)