Ben Foster Goes OFF On VAR & Sky After Liverpool No Goal
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- čas přidán 2. 10. 2023
- Ben Foster from @thecyclinggk loses it after VAR make another error. This time incorrectly ruling Luis Diaz goal for Liverpool against Tottenham offside after the Video assistant referee thought the on field call was goal. The disallowed goal would have made it 1-0 for Liverpool. They went on to lose 2-1. #shorts #football #soccer #premierleague
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Fair play Ben Foster, spot on calling them out like that. Always found it very suspicious myself, their punditry is way too lenient on these things.
Wdym every pundit has said literally what he has said
Everyone in the world said what he said except sky sports and VAR
By "their punditry" here he means the shy sports during the game.
Try to understand for f sake.
@@mymannbruzzNope...Gary neville went backtrack after the first interview
@@mymannbruzz I watched the entire game and discussion HT & FT. During the "offside" Gary said NOTHING. During HT Gary said close to nothing. Then at FT Gary goes off on one about it. Thought it was suspect at the time.
Sky are 100% in bed with VAR. It was fucking weird that they didnt OBSESS over that decision like they usually do.
In the old days we say their in cahoots 😂😂😂
Not everyone is obsessed with Liverpool. When this has happened to other teams, they have accepted it and moved on. Liverpool are just an entitled bunch
link where an offside has happened and it hasn't been replayed or analysed at half time @@billyhoyle2780
@@billyhoyle2780you’re proper obsessed and got issues lol
@@billyhoyle2780let’s wait till it happens to your club, they are highlighting such bad error to highlight how poor officials use VAR and need to fix/retrain them
It used to be known as 'match-fixing'.
Now it is legalized
Never assume malice when incompetence will suffice.
@@TPRM1 Nah man. Good refs quit because they know too much, and don't want to be involved. Its gone on for too long for to be called incompetence. Its the cover ups that are the clue here, not just some missed offside, or a bad call.
Also the same bad refs keep getting games. If it was incompetence, fine, relegate the bad refs then and bring on new blood. Why wont they do that? Because in any fraud or crime, the fewer people know of it, the better.
incompetence can be weaponized my friend@@TPRM1
Or maybe just accept that refs make shit mistakes too. Is it acceptable? No, but think of all the worst misses and mistakes from players.. they seem impossible to miss, but just wait til you're in their shoes, it can heplen to anyone
All V.A.R has done is show how currupt the game is.
exactly solid proof
It's just pure incompetence and possibly unconscious biases abut how certain players and teams are expected to play. Which doesn't make it ok but it also doesn't need to be explained my conspiracy theories
VAR is not the problem. PGMOL is and their sucpicious dealings with the FA, Sky and Saudi Arabia.
You guys are always paranoid about some desert filled country across the globe. This is generational paranoia started by Tony Blair. 😂
What do saudi arabia have to do with it. They are helping us by trying to sign these refs for the Saudi league.
@@KarinrinkashiWith the amount of influence they have garnered in the English game the suspicions are reasonable.
@@MostUnbiasedFanif you don't think that was fixed Saturday can't help you
@andrewwright4195 no point trying to get a point across mate your talking to "educated" npcs
Yes, because they knew what they were doing!! They are corrupt!! There is no other excuse!!!
Not corrupt, just incompetent...
Oh yeah they are fixing games it's a mistake and it's people being incompetent not fixing
Simple minds always jump straight to the "corruption, crooked, liars, rigged" explanations. Look, imagine you screw up in whatever job you do. And we know that you do, because EVERYONE does. It's unavoidable. Do you want to be subjected to the same off-with-his-head snap judgement?
@@OslerWannabe yes!! Because when I'm working and make a mistake I don't have the ability to rewind time and put it 100% correct!!! The VAR officials do have this ability!!!
Tottnumb get A LOT of favourable decisions. Very strange.
Spot on. 100%. Even in the CZcams highlights, there was only a very brief look at it with Gary Neville saying “he’s just offside” and then they move on. It’s so obvious.
Sky Sport also have betting company : Sky Bet
yep ,been ripped off of them before personally ,i won a bet and they said were not including a game which won for me ,i asked why and i shit you not he said i cant tell you but we'll give you a little over half you should have won and a free five pound bet like they were doing me the favour ,the robbing schisters
People will tell you they sold Skybet, but they sold it to an investment fund, so technically could still own it.
What? Im in u.s. didnt know that they have a betting agency wow
Conflict of interest!!! If it was me I’ll be in prison!!!!
How are a television company that is broadcasts football and has close relations with the FA and the prem...allowed to run a betting company...am not well versed in all of this stuff but seems abit weird
They didn’t even draw the line wrong with Arsenal v Brentford. They actually just FORGOT to do it
'Forgot'
They did the same for saka against liverpool last year
They didn’t forget. They had 3 minutes to check and draw the lines. How can you forget your main job for 3 minutes. They chose not to check.
😂😂😂
@@andrewwright4195Gooners actually had 3 var decisions go their way against LiVARpool at the emirates. Like you Saka offside,Gabriel handball that wasn’t given plus var gifting Jesus a pen for diving from Thiago’s challenge 👍
In Sweden the Swedish host talked about for like 10 minutes 😂
Seen this many times and thought exactly this! Kudos to Foster calling this out
But the VAR people apologised. That should be enough to justify this crap right? Its shocking to think that players gets fined and dusciplined but the refs go free. They should fined their wages for a howler like this.
They don't apologise they just explain the mistake
That would be a reasonable idea if players didn't make in a week, what a ref would make in a year.
Refs also get "promoted"/"demoted" on a game by game basis.
Imo the biggest issue is that the PL only allows English refs to officiate PL matches. The best leagues should have the best referees.
The PL also has enough money to help develop local refereeing but they chose not to invest in it more.
get them fired asap, the entire integrity of VAR in England is at stake.
Didn't a team get relegated for a cock up like this a few years back? We're talking about potential millions in earnings for clubs, managers losing jobs..
Refs should be fined really hard or even get their licenses revoked
well that's straight talking, surprised and impressed
Big 5 Leagues should introduce the semi automatic offside technology they had in the World Cup ASAP.
But they won't be able to fix certain matches if they bring that in var isn't difficult to get right they get it right when they want to and get it wrong when they want to
It didn't work properly because of the playable part rule. With current AI, i bet you could teach it to be 99% right within 2 yrs + have a response in a second. But honestly it would kill football imo, the old refereeing added way more emotion. This is semi-assisted and its awful to the flow of the game, I can't imagine a full auto system flagging everything. It would be good for defence, bad for attack.
They should let the game be reffed normally, like it was when it was exciting.
Maybe I don't watch enough football but this only seems to happen with VAR in England
Absolutely. The reasons are many, but it's mainly down to incorrect implementation and poor refereeing standards. The written rules are also an issue. I've sent multiple rules revisions and drafts to the PGMOL, as well as applying for a position to re-write the rules. Of course, it all gets ignored.
Yup clearly CORRUPTION or E officials are stupid clowns. Obviously OBVIOUS
Well sports betting markets are the biggest in EPL, so there's more money to be made. I'm sure it happens in UCL too tho. Last year they even got caught fixing the draw for the knock outs. As usual nothing happened as a result, even when everyone with half a brain cell understood what had just happened.
FIFA is corrupt, UEFA is corrupt and so many leagues are corrupt, they cant say anything when UEFA or FIFA fixes the next games to be played in the desert.
A quick Google search will tell you that this sort of thing happens everywhere, not just the Premier League.
The reason it seems to you that it only happens in England is because you only watch English football, and I don't blame you because let's be honest 😂 La Liga and Serie A are boring 😴
@burnaardnufc3173 I hardly watch prem actually. I watch mostly la liga and a little serie a sometimes because my boss is Italian
It's sheer corruption and should be investigated
Simple minds always jump straight to the "corruption, crooked, liars, rigged" explanations. Look, imagine you screw up in whatever job you do. And we know that you do, because EVERYONE does. It's unavoidable. Do you want to be subjected to the same off-with-his-head snap judgement?
@@OslerWannabehope you havr the sam mentality when your teams get slapped by var
@@bolajitaiwo9032 #1. It's just a game #2. VAR is a new technology, and the kinks are still being worked out. Before you can work kinks out, you have to identify them, which is what just happened. Now that this screw-up has occurred, they'll change the routines to prevent it happening again. Eventually, the system will be virtully idiot-proof. #3. Even with its current imperfections, VAR has already resolved FAR more ambiguities correctly, compared to mistakes made.
Corruption in football like any sport has been going on for years
Decades.
Centuries.
Millenia.
Simple minds always jump straight to the "corruption, crooked, liars, rigged" explanations. Look, imagine you screw up in whatever job you do. And we know that you do, because EVERYONE does. It's unavoidable. Do you want to be subjected to the same off-with-his-head snap judgement?
@@OslerWannabe You seem to have read an awful lot into a simple statement.
Who's asking for the guillotines?
@@happinesstanmaybe tht robert boy is one of the clown officials or match fixing arsehols. Thats why hes so defensive
Perhaps, but in this case there’s no evidence of corruption
It's not incompetence, it's corruption. The police should be involved in this, something major is in the works I believe.
Considering the bi££ions the Prem League earns, it's hard to believe that there's illegal shenanigans ongoing for betting reasons or bribery, because there's no way relatively pitiful sums involved in criminality would be allowed to jeopardises the legitimate earnings of the Prem League
@@sarl2121 But the referees aren't paid millions you see
@@rejectwokeness1314 But ref bosses are though?
@@RodneyWllee I doubt Howard Webb is paid that grossly much. That's why they need to go Saudi Arabia to do games.
@@RodneyWlleeso am a average man will get a fair share of the money a CEO makes in a firm. no, that’s not how it works. It is quite blatantly corruption, targeted or not, I can’t decide.
As a Liverpool fan, this was a disgrace!!! Take the ref’s pay for a month!
VAR gave you a league title a few years ago so stop moaning you hypocrite.
When you know fixing can be done for crazy odds that actually happen
Simple minds always jump straight to the "corruption, crooked, liars, rigged" explanations. Look, imagine you screw up in whatever job you do. And we know that you do, because EVERYONE does. It's unavoidable. Do you want to be subjected to the same off-with-his-head snap judgement?
Var and Refs are crippling the game. Put ppl who’ve kicked a football there like ex players they’d tell you if he’s off or not
Impossible, there'd be too much controversy over their potential bias.
Hooper should not ref any game in the future in EPL, four time’s disciplined, 9 yellow cards, two red ones and then this mess of „miscommunication” with VAR. They should check his financials thoroughly.
@@davidstephenson164it would be good if they bring ex footballers from other countries/clubs from other countries. That way there would be little to no bias and ex footballers at the same time
@@redknight07_what about players that gave played in other countries with him? Or if they're of the same nationality as the ex player? There's always going to be someone that's connected to an ex pro
@@Billyb0b557 yes but how else can we havr unbiased and knowledgeable refrees. Refree university?
Arsenal one was that according to them, they FORGOT to draw the lines😂😂😂
They never showed a reply....they showed one quick replay.
"To me, to you!" Chuckle, Chuckle VARsion, Chuckle VARsion! 😂
Luton were denied a penalty against Spurs and nobody talked about it, commentators were trying to say something but when VAR ruled no penalty they went silent.
Ben Foster should be a permanent pundit. He is spot on!!!
This is what football fans need right now. This is not about Liverpool. This is about EPL….the greatest league marred by the standard going down by few clown (incompetent officials).
Nah he shouldn't get involved with all the bs pundits. They will probably pay him off to have the same opinion as them
The scary part is that they dont try to hide it. They know no one can do anything about this.
I've noticed that about other smaller but potentially game-changing decisions as well. Throw-ins, cards, fouls.
Can you explain to me the problem here? It appears he was onside?
"they NEVER showed a replay of it...they showed one"
- Ben Foster, 2023
he said they showed a quick one .
@@aliceinpearlgarden1so they did show one so his original statement is wrong? He also said nothing was close in term of bad decisions when last year Wolves had the same thing against none other than Liverpool itself (Wolves even made a tiktok mocking Klopp asking for a replay). Ben is wearing an Arsenal shirt he’s clearly biased and want to make it look worse than it is in reality
@@Xotiwyour husband working at VAR? How are u defending the incompetence and sheer corruption that we witnessed over the years already
Really the worst var call not the cucurella hair pull that was by far the worst call and the wanker that was on the var that day is now on sky telling the world he didn't give it because he didn't wanna make the ref look bad
Exactly! But that didn't get half the media attention because Chelsea don't have a fan base full of cry babies like Liverpool. Not even sure if Chelsea got an apology 😂
@@davidstephenson164 nope, we also didn't get an apology when soucek dived and made a great save in stoppage time against west ham
Not exactly this is a clear goal being disallowed. Fouls are subjective while offsides are not. While I agree that both were terrible decisions the disallowed goal was a worse one.
If I had Diaz in my fantasy team (nearly did). I’d been fuming. But not so much.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by neglect, ignorance or incompetence
I think Ben is right in what he’s saying abiut sky and VAR. Gary Neville has quickly changed his tune and had a go at Liverpool over their statement. He was samoindinf very different on Saturday nught, must have got s telling off
I watched the game live and when they showed the 4 second clip of Diaz being onside, Gary Neville in the background, "yeahhh, he's JUST offside", and then never mentioned it again for the rest of the game...
Crazy that wolves had the exact same thing happen in the FA Cup against liverpool and there was no outrage from neutrals, no asking for compensation and no asking for the game to be replayed. Hard to feel sorry for the big 6 when they have every decision go their way
A liar is court by what he utters out his mouth. So I will ask you was the decision that was made against wolves the same as the Diaz situation?
Context, Liverpool once lost the title by a point, so that probably gave them more motivation to complain. Also, is it not about the game being handled with integrity instead of crying victim about things which have long passed?
Its just getting exposed now but its probably happened to all the teams
@@thegerm1397a perfectly good goal given as offside? Go watch it for yourself mate. FA cup last season at Anfield.
@@TBG26I get your point but why has it taken until now for something to be done? Have you seen the decisions wolves have had against them since VAR was introduced? It's hard not to feel like a victim. We literally had one at Old Trafford opening game weekend
@@Frowgy28 because last season their wasn't enough cameras to make the correlating lines. Same thing happened to liverpool against arsenal when saka scored. The Diaz happened because they weren't paying attention to the game. Completely different circumstances
Very true even in NRL Australia
Didn't realize he was a Gunner 😂❤
He’s not lmao
he support man utd
It's called corruption. And when an industry is corrupted, it is from head to toe, rotten to the core everyone has their backs cause if it's found out, they'll all be imprisoned
It’s taken Ben years to realise that when they’ve got it wrong they barely show replays of it 🤦🏻♂️ Welcome to the real world
They never showed a replay of it.....next sentence....they showed one replay of it 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
After the second ad break on sky,they did talk about it for about a minute.
If you listen to the audio from the VAR room, they actually correctly called the play onside. The issue was in their communication, they thought the onfield referee had given the goal, it wasn't until the play had restarted that the video-editing guy noticed and informed them.
Well why the fuck are they derping around in the video room without a line direct to the ref to discuss the decision details? Surely both parties should talk about what's going on?
The VAR People should be fined and/or suspended. They had only one job and if they have seen there mistake in the halftime, then they must have corrected it in the second half. It isn't a big thing to add up a given goal after the halftime break.
VAR people need investigating for betting regulations because they made way too many mistakes in that game and all to make sure liverpool lost, somthing just isn't right.
I've noticed they've been doing this honestly why is no one talking about the potential match fixing ? They should be investigated to see if they hold contact with anyone to do with these betting companies.
VAR was brought in to rig games, when you understand that fact, it all makes sense. They want to make sure the right teams get enough points for the billionaires to get the right returns on their investments. VAR is one of their primary vehicles to achieve that goal.
How does VAR make rigging games easier than not having it? 😂 you've to literally now bribe more people than before if you want to rig a game
@@magikarpsplashy you could argue more people being involved in decision means greater chances of corruption. Ref could be completely unaware whilst VAR is "forgetting to do their job"
@agamer2899 you could argue that if but logically it makes no sense. The more people involved in a crime the more chance someone is found out or whistle blows. If you genuinely believe it's easier to rig games with var than without it then good for you
@@magikarpsplashy All I see is the consistency in the inconsistency over all the seasons since its introduction. It's been highly consistent in favouring the so-called 'top 6', the ones that rake in the mega money on the international TV and merchandise markets.
When something is so consistently inconsistent, I smell a rat. When so many millions if not billions are involved, that rat starts to smell fishy. We're talking some highly smelly smells.
@bravo2966 so the same thing as what people complained about before it was introduced then? Liverpool are a bigger club than Spurs, so why would VAR help spurs in that case? It's poor refs, not corruption
Don't forget that Neville also said in commentary that it was offside as well instead of questioning it.
I was going mental at the TV my Mrs thought I’d lost the plot saying the same things as Foster.🤯🤯🤯🤯
VAR is going through a crisis rn
Facts! Shout out to him calling them out!
And seven months later. Nottingham Forest are getting charged because they've highlighted this as well
Absolutely correct. I’ve noticed every time there is a “close call” in regards to offside … the presenter of the sky game (usually that blonde lady) makes a real point of saying “well it’s 100% correct, it’s VAR” I’m glad not the only one noticed. Well done Ben
They’ve done it to Chelsea in almost every game for the last 5 years.
And then Ben Foster immediately hounded Arteta for his comments after the Newcastle game 🙄
I remember seeing this thinking oh my god.. 😂💔I really didn't pay attention to the fact that they never reolayed it again 🤣
Someone needs to be arrested for that robbery against Liverpool.
The thing about the Diaz goal that sets it apart is that it wasn't a subjective refereeing error but a miscommunication. It highlights the astonishing situation that VAR's seemingly been operating all these years without simple speech protocols - if they'd run their system past any semi-competent analyst they'd have been set right at the start.
Any betting organization should NEVER be allowed to be involved in supporting/sponsoring ANY sporting organizations. It just proves pure corruption
"they NEVER show a replay"
2 seconds later
"they show a quick replay"
...
"The people at VAR". Yes, yeees... hahaha
They’ve been doing this for years, they don’t show some fouls in replays after they do mistakes
Been saying this about VAR b4 it was even introduced. Inevitable
100% spot on.
Thank you time for corruption to be called out
Sounds like the collaboration the sfa,var ,sky and celtic have
I remember watching the match and thinking the same damn thing
You’ll never walk alone!!!
He is spot on,
And there have been other occasions in games when i always wondered why aren't they showing particular situations!
He's 100% correct I've always thought neville and Co are in bed with VAR.
It wouldve incited a riot thats why.
I heard the commentator say “Yeah that looks offside” so I went with the decision. Oh boy when I saw that after the game, I was fuming.
cut their wages for howlers just like this
They’ve done it with Chelsea multiple times too, it’s ridiculous. And having a referee “pundit” on red watch who won’t ever admit any ref has done wrong.
Totally agree. Exactly what I felt.
I wonder what other mistakes they've made what we don't know about and covered up???
You are so right m8.
I thought it was just me who saw this point
If this happened at Fulham nobody would be still banging on about it!
Before VAR we'd have a couple decisions like this every match.
They do it all the time and try make u forget it's mad bro glad u called them out
Since start of the VAR I immidiately thought that is now easier to matchfix. No one got like the original copy of any game and sometimes a slowmo or replay takes so much time, so you can edit anything to the replay.
That sheff utd va villa one was ridiculous. THAT is the worst one because apparently not only did VAR not have “enough cameras” the goal line technology also failed as the refs watch didn’t alert him to the ball crossing the line
Could very well cost Liverpool the league this decision amongst others.
Ben Foster don’t care about a sky sports job. He’s a sick football CZcamsr since his retirement can’t lie
Always noticed they don’t tend to replay blatantly missed calls
It feels like I'm watching handball after VAR came into football
Spot on. I been saying it for ages.
They need to just take VAR out
Like the older days
It wasn’t the var team it was the ref who moved the game thinking it was offside
I'm glad someone is saying something about it
As an Everton fan this is something we have known about for years
Happens all the time, even in the Championship EFL games. The Sky commentator called a stonewall red card that wasn't given as a foul "a bit naughty" last week. Sky and the Prem are in league together to ensure they paint the most positive message about officiating as possible.
Connects the dots... guess which ref was involved in all 3?
Michael Oliver
either he is the 4th official or the main ref 😂
Finally atleast bens saying it. Ive been saying that for ages
Bein Sports did the same thing with the mistakes in the København v Man United game last night. They’re either doing to cover up mistakes like Ben said or they’re fixing matches on purpose to suit television buys.
“They never showed a replay of it. They showed one short replay of it.” 🤔
Ben Foster is spot on. It’s about time VAR and the sky Pundits are called out.
And they will still be talking about it in 5 years because the media love them
Ive always said VAR only dictate the game how they want it to play out.
The fact that the league has been won by one pint in 2 of the past 4 seasons, this situation from the ref could completely impact who wins the league. They should never be allowed near another match again (the officials)
When they show the Images so late I always feel like they changed something when they don't show the video
The calls on most games are horrible, sometimes the decisions feel biased or even rigged