The point missing is, it says , in the same way he went into heaven. When he ascended a cloud hid him from their sight, as he went into heaven. Point is they only saw the cloud he was in, they never saw him literally go into heaven, They saw him lift off the earth but did not see him go into heaven, the cloud hid him came back in the clouds.
Yes, His return or nearness (parousia) was in the *unseen realm* . He told them to look for the visible results in the seen realm, i e the fall of Jerusalem.
Interpreted according to the Berean doctrine obviously. Every denomination does this! Leaving the beautiful flock of believers in confusion. Come Lord Jesus come for your Bride prepared before the foundation of the world. In Christ!
More I listen to those preaching then more I getting convinced that ithis s really make sense .I really appreciate this revelation of Holy Scripture about preterism!
Regarding 2 Peter 3:12,13 are we supposed to take that as figurative too?Will life on earth continue indefinitely as it is? Because it sure seems like satan is still the god of this world. While the full preterist view answers some questions it leaves others unanswered. This world is a cesspool of unrighteousness NOT righteousness. When and in what way did the new heavens and earth come about? I feel like preterism explains away everything until there is nothing left to look forward to but death.
Yes, empires rise and fall. Nothing new under the sun. The *earth endures forever* 🌎 (Eccl 1:4, Psa 78:69, 104:5) *NEW Heaven and earth is spiritual* *HINT: People still DIE 👈 in NEW Heaven and earth* 👀 Isaiah 65:20 *HINT: There is still SIN 👈 in NEW Heaven and earth* Revelation 22:15 *Heaven and earth was a TEMPLE 👈 reference* in Jesus' day. read Matthew 5:18 in this context. *Now WE are the TEMPLE of God* (the NEW Heaven and earth) He *dwells among us and is our God now* 🥰 *Revelation 21:3* *2 Corinthians 6:16* 👈 We are *living stones* Jesus is the *Cornerstone* 🙌 His Kingdom is SPIRTUAL. Not Physical. Luke 17:20-21 *Jesus gives us PEACE that passes understanding NOW* so that is a lot to be excited about. 😊 Then when *we do DIE, we get to go to Heaven now* *Revelation 14:13* 👀 (Instead of *to the GRAVE/Sheol/Hades like the OT saints had to go to* before Jesus resurrected them out of the grave after He got the *keys to death and hades* 🔑 Revelation 1:17-18
@@CraigT104 *"Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though HE DIE, 👈yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?”* John 11:25-26 *"And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this:* *Blessed are the dead who DIE 👈 in the Lord FROM NOW ON” 👈 “Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”* Revelation 14:13 Jesus has the *keys to death and hades* 🔑 (Revelation 1:17-18) But *people are STILL DYING 👈 after He gets them* (they have been for millennia) Bc it's SPIRITUAL death not *literal death* that ends. *Isaiah 65:20* 👈 And we still have *DEATH and SIN in the NEW 👈 Heaven and earth* *Revelation 22:15* 👈 So why would we need s NEW earth??? We don't. 😊 It's not a *LITERAL NEW Heaven and earth* in Revelation *Heaven and earth was a TEMPLE reference* in Jesus' day. God is already *dwelling among us* 🥰 *Revelation 21:3* See *2 Corinthians 6:16* 👈 We ARE the NEW Heaven and earth. The NEW temples of God. The *living stones* Jesus is the Cornerstone. (God dwells inside of us) We are not rocks and neither is Jesus. *His Kingdom is SPIRITUAL* Not Physical. *Luke 17:20-21* 👈 (anyone looking for a Physical Kingdom of God is going to be easily deceived. Like the Pharisees were. They couldn't hear what Jesus was telling them. They wanted a PHYSICAL Kingdom of God to come. A Physical restoration of Israel )
You're absolutely right! The meek inherit the land that the first Adam lost. Jesus (the Last Adam) obtained the deed to the earth with His Blood. Our hope (promise) is that the kingdom of planet Earth will be restored for our resurrected, physical immortal bodies. Many first church Believers called Christ’s Return the “8th Day”. Matthew 5:3,5 YLT `Happy the poor in spirit -- because theirs is *_the reign of the heavens._* [5] `Happy the meek -- *_because they shall inherit the land._* Revelation 5:1-2,5,9-10 YLT And I saw *_upon the right hand of Him who is sitting upon the throne a scroll,_* written within and on the back, sealed with seven seals; [2] and I saw a strong messenger crying with a great voice, *_`Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose the seals of it?'_* [5] and one of the elders saith to me, *_`Weep not; lo, overcome did the Lion, who is of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, to open the scroll_* and to loose the seven seals of it; [9] and they sing a new song, saying, `Worthy art thou to take the scroll, and to open the seals of it, because thou wast slain, *_and didst redeem us to God in thy blood,_* out of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation, [10] and didst make us to our God kings and priests, *_and we shall reign upon the earth.'_* Romans 8:20-23 YLT [20] *_for to vanity was the creation made subject_* -- not of its will, but because of Him who did subject [it] -- in hope, [21] *_that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption_* to the liberty of the glory of the children of God; [22] for we have known that *_all the creation doth groan together,_* and doth travail in pain together till now. [23] And not only [so], *_but also we ourselves,_* having the first-fruit of the Spirit, we also ourselves in ourselves *_do groan,_* adoption *_expecting -- the redemption of our body;_*
@@traceya9039Job 19:25-27 KJV For I know that *_my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:_* [26] And though *_after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:_* [27] *_Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold,_* and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
Some people do misunderstand that the generation that he was talking was the generation in which the temple was being destroyed, not in ours. Jesus came back as the comforter.
No Jesus did not come back as the comforter for that means there just 2 persons of the God head. There are 3. Holy Spirit is his own separate person... not Jesus
@@destinycoach5 Right Jesus didn't separate, he came back as the comforter, he is a mediator between God and man. is there anything too hard for God? We think too much in human terms about things. (:
@@shellyblanchard5788 no I disagree with your statement that Jesus came back as comforter. That would mean there is only two God head since Jesus is both Jesus and Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit was ALWAYS there with them. He hovered over the deep waters in Gen 1. Jesus did not return as the holy spirit but when he left earth the Holy Spirit came to be with us on daily basis ... which was not the case b4.
There is just one problem for your theory: The scripture says: "And as they were gazing into the sky while he was on his way, suddenly two men in white garments stood beside them 11 and said: “Men of Galʹi·lee, why do you stand looking into the sky? " they were gazing into the sky while he was on his way. They would not be looking into the sky if he was not lifted up into the sky
Jesus told us we can not see the Kingdom *coming with our eyes.* 👀 It's a 💯 *Spiritual* Kingdom. *"Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is NOT COMING 👈in ways that can be observed,"* 👀 Luke 17:20 See also *John 18:35-36, 1Cor **15:50**.*
The Last Day of the Old Covenant. Also, every eye did see Him through the accompanying signs He gave. The Kingdom was not coming in way that would be physically observed. The signs would signify everything.
@@Anotherparadigmshift Every eye did not see Him the first time, only those in the vicinity of where He was, and His kingdom is received through faith until He comes again in person when faith will no longer be needed
@debravan-aalst4723 "in person"? Is He a body of flesh currently? Can you see that which is spiritual and eternal? Paul said No. His Kingdom is not of this world. It's not physical or temporal. Why is the New Jerusalem His Bride? Jesus is the Cornerstone of the third Temple. The Apostles are the foundations. The 12 Tribes are the gates. Believers are the stones. How could He be in us and us in Him? At the completion of the Temple Rev.21:22 says the Lord God and the Lamb are the Temple. Which is in the City. The Temple(Christ) is in the City and the people can enter the Temple at will.
@@Anotherparadigmshift yes, He is in His risen body currently . When He appeared to Thomas he told him to touch His side where the spear went through and behold His nail pierced hands. He also ate fish with His disciple and told them that He was flesh and bone ( not flesh and blood ).
@@Anotherparadigmshift Don’t forget as well that The bride is also the New Jerusalem which Christ dwells in and the bride is also the temple ( living stones builder together as a holy habitation of Yah). It is all symbology of the most intimate spiritual relationship that those who are His will be part of , in glorified spiritual bodies just like Jesus( 1 Cor. 15)
His explanation of Acts 1 is not a good explanation. He infers a great deal into it that the words themselves do not say. This adds to the words themselves. .. which clearly says Jesus was LIFTED up and a cloud took him out of their sight. It also says that He will come back in the SAME WAY he went to heaven. The sky didn't part in AD70 and every eye didn't see him coming down to earth in ad70 as he left And every nation didn't mourn in ad 70. There is a great deal more to argue against preterism than Acts 1. So many things have not come to pass yet... let alone in ad 70. We see many things coming into being right now... today that lines up with the prophecies that preceed the Lord's 2nd coming. Preterism is a Jesuit taught doctrine. That ALONE is enough reason to dismiss it as a false doctrine.
@@steventhury8366 steven... over the past year i have been looking at the preterist view of revelation. I agree that many of the events listed did happen in ad70 and then over the next few centuries. But the sky didnt open and jesus seen and his enemies removed. When i listen to such messages that tell me something like this my whole being gets unbalanced. It was the same when i studied pre trib and pre wrath. Every time i listened to pre trib and agreed with it, my whole being was unbalanced and everything felt wrong. It stopped when i stopped trying to get myself into that box. Every time i try to fit into the preterist box i am unbalanced. The reality is that everything going on TODAY....RIGHT NOW is the seals to a T. Buying and selling without the mark just took a big step forward . So they can tell me all they want that revelation already happened.... but its happening again!!!
How does looking up and staring intently into the sky mean Christ had His stature increased. When Christ returns the same way, is He going to lose His exaltation? You're way off in the clouds on this one. Acts 1:9-11 YLT And these things having said -- they beholding -- *_he was taken up, and a cloud did receive him up_* from their sight; [10] and as *_they were looking stedfastly to the heaven in his going on,_* then, lo, two men stood by them in white apparel, [11] who also said, `Men, Galileans, *_why do ye stand gazing into the heaven? this Jesus who was received up from you into the heaven, shall so come in what manner ye saw him going on to the heaven.'_* Psalm 47:5 YLT *_God hath gone up with a shout, Jehovah with the sound of a trumpet._* 1 Thessalonians 4:16 YLT because *_the Lord himself, in a shout, in the voice of a chief-messenger, and in the trump of God, shall come down from heaven,_* and the dead in Christ shall rise first,
could you arrange that you either put a microphone in the room for the question period or David repeat them cause we miss the context of the answers thanks
‘Shekinah’ is a kabbalistic term denoting the feminine aspects of the androgynous god they have created. The term is also much referred to in the Talmud and promoted as the tangible presence of Yahuah while in truth it is female goddess worship 🙏
Was the Resurrection literal or non-literal? I'm dying to hear what you have to say on this because this will be extremely revealing on the kind of theology this all is.
If you mean the bodily resurrection of Jesus, yes it was literal. If you mean the general resurrection if the dead, no that was not a bodily resurrection. That was the Godly rising to new life as spirit beings and the rest being judged unfit for the upgrade.
So my question is where does the futurists view come from and when? Because that's what i also believed but now i see that revelation was done by 70AD- so how did it become like that the futurists view?
Internet search Francisco Ribera. He was a Spanish Jesuit priest, (1590) who attempted to advance the Roman Catholic Counter Reformation (Ribera was embarrassed by the persistent Protestant identification of the Papacy with the Antichrist). To counter this he revived a futuristic interpretation for the Book of Revelation (he placed all but the first three chapters in the future).
The language in this verse is literal, and not symbolic, as in Revelations. The intent is to convey Jesus literally went up into the sky. I don't think we can get away from that. I do agree on other points about Jesus symbolically sitting at the right hand of God.
It was a symbolic vision of the power of God. When we accept Christ he lives in our hearts. Jesus is really everywhere. Jesus told his disciples that all power was given to him in heaven and in earth.
2 Corinthians 5:16 16So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. Watch my videos on this subject as well
Did we live and reign with Christ for 1000 years between 30 a.d. and 70 a.d.? That's only forty years not a thousand. Is this the new heaven and new earth where there are more sorrow or tears or sickness. Have the dead been resurrected and judged? The way I know know that all the prophecies haven't been fulfilled is this is no Kingdom I've ever been promised.
A faithful ambassador for the resurrected Hebrew Messiah is not out to win friends and influence people they only want to share the wonderful news about what the death of the true Messiah accomplished when He died. 2 Cor. 5:18 And all things are from Father YAHweh, who has reconciled us to Himself by YAHWEHSHUA our King, and has given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 5:19 Which means, that Father YAHweh was in His Son our Messiah, reconciling the world to Himself, >>>>NOT
@@Okieshowedem from all that discourse you wrote ... what I want to know is this.... Do you agree in this preterist view that its all done and nothing is left to be accomplished so nothing in the world will change Or Are we moving towards a future 2nd coming of Christ?
“as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.” II Peter 3:16 NKJV People have to start reading the Bible themselves. Read Matthew 24:29-34. Jesus gave a bunch of signs of the end times. Sun and moon darkened, loud trumpet etc. he said the generation that sees these signs occur will not die and will witness the second coming of Christ. The first century Christians never saw the sun darkened or stars fall from the sky. These teachers will lead you astray with their doctrines. Pastors shouldn’t be giving sermons on things they don’t fully understand
I have been looking but fail to see anywhere in scripture the term "the second coming." I certainly acknowledge the many scriptures in the Old Testament when God came in judgement on Nations. You say that all Christians believe in the second coming. I actually don't think that is accurate. To say they all believe that Yeshua will return according to the Gospels would be more accurate. It is interesting that in Acts 1 Jesus doesn't answer their question about the Kingdom. As a matter of fact He says the time of any restoration is only known to the Father. So what I'm seeing in this account is that it doesn't seem to be related to "that generation." Nor does it seem to refer to the Son of Man coming in His glory. It seems to me to be saying that Jesus has given the disciples an open-ended prophecy of future "time" or "season" which the Father has put in His own authority. This seems to be in contrast to the accounts where Jesus very specifically indicates time and season throughout all 3 Synoptic Gospels. So I don't quite see the problem from saying in Acts 1 that Jesus will return physically to the earth. I think is a little disingenuous to throw the question of what type of apparel He will be wearing upon arrival. My question is why do we (I'm referring to Preterists and Partial Preterists) acknowledge the various comings in the Old Testament and then set up a term called "the second coming" in the New Testament and then ridicule any doctrine that may ascride third coming??
I'm a partial preterist. Pastor Curtis is interesting to listen to, but where I differ with him is 70 AD was not the 2nd coming, but a "coming in judgment" using the Roman armies. The ancient creeds all teach that Jesus will physically return at the end of time. There will be a loud trumpet, the graves will be opened, dead believers will be resurrected, and those of us still alive will meet Him in the air. Human history will cease and eternity will start. Comfort one another with these words. Pastor Curtis has gone down a path (full preterism) that is contrary to all of Christian history. Repent, Pastor : )
The 2nd coming was future to them when the apostles creed was formulated. So you are right, but wrong in the recognition of its application. Daniel's 70 sevens and Daniel ch 12 do not allow a fulfillment beyond the 1st century. Even Jesus's own words contradict your assertions, so, who is right, you or Jesus?
@wmfivethree sure, the book starts and ends with SOON, but alas, it has a deeper meaing. Pray tell what that might be, while you're trying to do that, you ruin the credibility of Jesus and all the biblical writers, but that ain't no big deal, is it? Nah.........
The word coming is not in the scriptures, so I have always wondered why the Church creeds used the word coming? It is parousia. A presence. Here is how it works: The early fathers mistakenly thought of a literal return instead of using the Hebraisms of the OT. Most of the church fathers whose work is extant, were gentiles.
@@markingersoll2671 what it is the temple was to be destroyed in the 40 years. He used the army to destory the temple. It wasn' t the torn on the day of Pentecost. The veil was ripped into when Jesus died.
@John lemay Lemay how do you know you weren't there? the bible tells us. If you don't believe it that is your problem. You are so doubtful about things.
The Lord (Jesus) is the Spirit and where the spirit is is freedom. It is God's spirit (power and presence) coming to believers through Jesus the mediator. The risen Christ became life giving spirit. Jesus will be with us until the end of the age. In the spirit.
I don’t like it when he describes Jesus as a short Jewish guy surfing on a cloud. Almost sounds like he is mocking God and His word. Doesn’t sit well and I don’t find it funny.
The point missing is, it says , in the same way he went into heaven. When he ascended a cloud hid him from their sight, as he went into heaven. Point is they only saw the cloud he was in, they never saw him literally go into heaven, They saw him lift off the earth but did not see him go into heaven, the cloud hid him came back in the clouds.
And the point the speaker is making is that we cannot define scriptures by our modern day paradigms. One MUST use scripture to interpret scripture.
@@jcismyall be good if he did
Yes, His return or nearness (parousia) was in the *unseen realm* . He told them to look for the visible results in the seen realm, i e the fall of Jerusalem.
@@Nunya_Bidness_53 If Yahusha has already returned what now?
@@debravan-aalst4723 Now it's God's world, and his people need to exercise dominion iver it in His name.
Interpreted according to the Berean doctrine obviously. Every denomination does this! Leaving the beautiful flock of believers in confusion. Come Lord Jesus come for your Bride prepared before the foundation of the world. In Christ!
More I listen to those preaching then more I getting convinced that ithis s really make sense .I really appreciate this revelation of Holy Scripture about preterism!
God bless you my friend ❤
Regarding 2 Peter 3:12,13 are we supposed to take that as figurative too?Will life on earth continue indefinitely as it is? Because it sure seems like satan is still the god of this world. While the full preterist view answers some questions it leaves others unanswered. This world is a cesspool of unrighteousness NOT righteousness. When and in what way did the new heavens and earth come about? I feel like preterism explains away everything until there is nothing left to look forward to but death.
Yes, empires rise and fall.
Nothing new under the sun.
The *earth endures forever* 🌎
(Eccl 1:4, Psa 78:69, 104:5)
*NEW Heaven and earth is spiritual*
*HINT: People still DIE 👈 in NEW Heaven and earth* 👀
Isaiah 65:20
*HINT: There is still SIN 👈 in NEW Heaven and earth*
Revelation 22:15
*Heaven and earth was a TEMPLE 👈 reference* in Jesus' day.
read Matthew 5:18 in this context.
*Now WE are the TEMPLE of God* (the NEW Heaven and earth)
He *dwells among us and is our God now* 🥰
*Revelation 21:3*
*2 Corinthians 6:16* 👈
We are *living stones*
Jesus is the *Cornerstone* 🙌
His Kingdom is SPIRTUAL.
Not Physical.
Luke 17:20-21
*Jesus gives us PEACE that passes understanding NOW* so that is a lot to be excited about. 😊
Then when *we do DIE, we get to go to Heaven now*
*Revelation 14:13* 👀
(Instead of *to the GRAVE/Sheol/Hades like the OT saints had to go to* before Jesus resurrected them out of the grave after He got the *keys to death and hades* 🔑
Revelation 1:17-18
@@traceya9039 “Forever” is a mistranslation. Check out a Young’s Literal and/or the Concordant Literal translation. Sin and death are temporary.
@@CraigT104 *"Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though HE DIE, 👈yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?”*
John 11:25-26
*"And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this:*
*Blessed are the dead who DIE 👈 in the Lord FROM NOW ON” 👈 “Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”*
Revelation 14:13
Jesus has the *keys to death and hades* 🔑 (Revelation 1:17-18)
But *people are STILL DYING 👈 after He gets them*
(they have been for millennia)
Bc it's SPIRITUAL death not *literal death* that ends.
*Isaiah 65:20* 👈
And we still have *DEATH and SIN in the NEW 👈 Heaven and earth*
*Revelation 22:15* 👈
So why would we need s NEW earth???
We don't. 😊
It's not a *LITERAL NEW Heaven and earth* in Revelation
*Heaven and earth was a TEMPLE reference* in Jesus' day.
God is already *dwelling among us* 🥰
*Revelation 21:3*
See *2 Corinthians 6:16* 👈
We ARE the NEW Heaven and earth.
The NEW temples of God.
The *living stones*
Jesus is the Cornerstone.
(God dwells inside of us)
We are not rocks and neither is Jesus.
*His Kingdom is SPIRITUAL*
Not Physical.
*Luke 17:20-21* 👈
(anyone looking for a Physical Kingdom of God is going to be easily deceived. Like the Pharisees were. They couldn't hear what Jesus was telling them. They wanted a PHYSICAL Kingdom of God to come. A Physical restoration of Israel )
You're absolutely right! The meek inherit the land that the first Adam lost. Jesus (the Last Adam) obtained the deed to the earth with His Blood. Our hope (promise) is that the kingdom of planet Earth will be restored for our resurrected, physical immortal bodies. Many first church Believers called Christ’s Return the “8th Day”.
Matthew 5:3,5 YLT
`Happy the poor in spirit -- because theirs is *_the reign of the heavens._*
[5] `Happy the meek -- *_because they shall inherit the land._*
Revelation 5:1-2,5,9-10 YLT
And I saw *_upon the right hand of Him who is sitting upon the throne a scroll,_* written within and on the back, sealed with seven seals;
[2] and I saw a strong messenger crying with a great voice, *_`Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose the seals of it?'_*
[5] and one of the elders saith to me, *_`Weep not; lo, overcome did the Lion, who is of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, to open the scroll_* and to loose the seven seals of it;
[9] and they sing a new song, saying, `Worthy art thou to take the scroll, and to open the seals of it, because thou wast slain, *_and didst redeem us to God in thy blood,_* out of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation,
[10] and didst make us to our God kings and priests, *_and we shall reign upon the earth.'_*
Romans 8:20-23 YLT
[20] *_for to vanity was the creation made subject_* -- not of its will, but because of Him who did subject [it] -- in hope,
[21] *_that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption_* to the liberty of the glory of the children of God;
[22] for we have known that *_all the creation doth groan together,_* and doth travail in pain together till now.
[23] And not only [so], *_but also we ourselves,_* having the first-fruit of the Spirit, we also ourselves in ourselves *_do groan,_* adoption *_expecting -- the redemption of our body;_*
@@traceya9039Job 19:25-27 KJV
For I know that *_my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:_*
[26] And though *_after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:_*
[27] *_Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold,_* and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
Some people do misunderstand that the generation that he was talking was the generation in which the temple was being destroyed, not in ours.
Jesus came back as the comforter.
Exactly, are we being kicked out of synagogues? Are we being hunted down and brought to Jerusalem by the power and authority of the Sanhedrin?
No Jesus did not come back as the comforter for that means there just 2 persons of the God head. There are 3. Holy Spirit is his own separate person... not Jesus
@@markingersoll2671 we just may be in near future when the newly formed sandhedrine replaces the UN and the Noahide laws are the law of the land
@@destinycoach5 Right Jesus didn't separate, he came back as the comforter, he is a mediator between God and man. is there anything too hard for God? We think too much in human terms about things. (:
@@shellyblanchard5788 no I disagree with your statement that Jesus came back as comforter. That would mean there is only two God head since Jesus is both Jesus and Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit was ALWAYS there with them. He hovered over the deep waters in Gen 1.
Jesus did not return as the holy spirit but when he left earth the Holy Spirit came to be with us on daily basis ... which was not the case b4.
There is just one problem for your theory: The scripture says: "And as they were gazing into the sky while he was on his way, suddenly two men in white garments stood beside them 11 and said: “Men of Galʹi·lee, why do you stand looking into the sky? " they were gazing into the sky while he was on his way. They would not be looking into the sky if he was not lifted up into the sky
So you forgot to mention that He was taken out of their sight. Oops.
Amen.
Jesus told us we can not see the Kingdom *coming with our eyes.* 👀
It's a 💯 *Spiritual* Kingdom.
*"Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is NOT COMING 👈in ways that can be observed,"* 👀
Luke 17:20
See also *John 18:35-36, 1Cor **15:50**.*
@@traceya9039 100 percent true
@@Anotherparadigmshift he was lifted up into the sky, as he ascended he disappeared behind clouds
Matthew 24:30 every eye shall see HIM JESUS will come back on the LAST DAY John 6:40-44
The Last Day of the Old Covenant. Also, every eye did see Him through the accompanying signs He gave. The Kingdom was not coming in way that would be physically observed. The signs would signify everything.
@@Anotherparadigmshift Every eye did not see Him the first time, only those in the vicinity of where He was, and His kingdom is received through faith until He comes again in person when faith will no longer be needed
@debravan-aalst4723 "in person"? Is He a body of flesh currently? Can you see that which is spiritual and eternal? Paul said No. His Kingdom is not of this world. It's not physical or temporal. Why is the New Jerusalem His Bride? Jesus is the Cornerstone of the third Temple. The Apostles are the foundations. The 12 Tribes are the gates. Believers are the stones. How could He be in us and us in Him? At the completion of the Temple Rev.21:22 says the Lord God and the Lamb are the Temple. Which is in the City. The Temple(Christ) is in the City and the people can enter the Temple at will.
@@Anotherparadigmshift yes, He is in His risen body currently . When He appeared to Thomas he told him to touch His side where the spear went through and behold His nail pierced hands. He also ate fish with His disciple and told them that He was flesh and bone ( not flesh and blood ).
@@Anotherparadigmshift Don’t forget as well that The bride is also the New Jerusalem which Christ dwells in and the bride is also the temple ( living stones builder together as a holy habitation of Yah). It is all symbology of the most intimate spiritual relationship that those who are His will be part of , in glorified spiritual bodies just like Jesus( 1 Cor. 15)
Thanks, I needed a good explanation of Acts 1. It is one of the main verses people fall back on to argue against Preterism.
His explanation of Acts 1 is not a good explanation. He infers a great deal into it that the words themselves do not say. This adds to the words themselves. .. which clearly says Jesus was LIFTED up and a cloud took him out of their sight.
It also says that He will come back in the SAME WAY he went to heaven.
The sky didn't part in AD70 and every eye didn't see him coming down to earth in ad70 as he left
And every nation didn't mourn in ad 70.
There is a great deal more to argue against preterism than Acts 1. So many things have not come to pass yet... let alone in ad 70. We see many things coming into being right now... today that lines up with the prophecies that preceed the Lord's 2nd coming.
Preterism is a Jesuit taught doctrine. That ALONE is enough reason to dismiss it as a false doctrine.
@@destinycoach5 On what basis do you claim preterism is a product from the Jesuits?
@@steventhury8366 i don't remember now.
@@destinycoach5 You made some good points, but that one I have no idea.
@@steventhury8366 steven... over the past year i have been looking at the preterist view of revelation. I agree that many of the events listed did happen in ad70 and then over the next few centuries.
But the sky didnt open and jesus seen and his enemies removed.
When i listen to such messages that tell me something like this my whole being gets unbalanced. It was the same when i studied pre trib and pre wrath. Every time i listened to pre trib and agreed with it, my whole being was unbalanced and everything felt wrong. It stopped when i stopped trying to get myself into that box.
Every time i try to fit into the preterist box i am unbalanced.
The reality is that everything going on TODAY....RIGHT NOW is the seals to a T. Buying and selling without the mark just took a big step forward .
So they can tell me all they want that revelation already happened.... but its happening again!!!
What exactly was the Gospel message that he said to Proclaim before he went up could you help me
How does looking up and staring intently into the sky mean Christ had His stature increased. When Christ returns the same way, is He going to lose His exaltation? You're way off in the clouds on this one.
Acts 1:9-11 YLT
And these things having said -- they beholding -- *_he was taken up, and a cloud did receive him up_* from their sight;
[10] and as *_they were looking stedfastly to the heaven in his going on,_* then, lo, two men stood by them in white apparel,
[11] who also said, `Men, Galileans, *_why do ye stand gazing into the heaven? this Jesus who was received up from you into the heaven, shall so come in what manner ye saw him going on to the heaven.'_*
Psalm 47:5 YLT
*_God hath gone up with a shout, Jehovah with the sound of a trumpet._*
1 Thessalonians 4:16 YLT
because *_the Lord himself, in a shout, in the voice of a chief-messenger, and in the trump of God, shall come down from heaven,_* and the dead in Christ shall rise first,
could you arrange that you either put a microphone in the room for the question period or David repeat them cause we miss the context of the answers thanks
You got a volume adjustment on your computer?
‘Shekinah’ is a kabbalistic term denoting the feminine aspects of the androgynous god they have created. The term is also much referred to in the Talmud and promoted as the tangible presence of Yahuah while in truth it is female goddess worship 🙏
Thank you for your comments, they are very helpful.
Was the Resurrection literal or non-literal? I'm dying to hear what you have to say on this because this will be extremely revealing on the kind of theology this all is.
He believes it was literal.
If you mean the bodily resurrection of Jesus, yes it was literal. If you mean the general resurrection if the dead, no that was not a bodily resurrection. That was the Godly rising to new life as spirit beings and the rest being judged unfit for the upgrade.
@@Nunya_Bidness_53 we are told we will have resurrected bodies like Yahusha when we are raised at the end of the age
So my question is where does the futurists view come from and when? Because that's what i also believed but now i see that revelation was done by 70AD- so how did it become like that the futurists view?
Internet search Francisco Ribera. He was a Spanish Jesuit priest, (1590) who attempted to advance the Roman Catholic Counter Reformation (Ribera was embarrassed by the persistent Protestant identification of the Papacy with the Antichrist). To counter this he revived a futuristic interpretation for the Book of Revelation (he placed all but the first three chapters in the future).
The language in this verse is literal, and not symbolic, as in Revelations. The intent is to convey Jesus literally went up into the sky. I don't think we can get away from that. I do agree on other points about Jesus symbolically sitting at the right hand of God.
It was a symbolic vision of the power of God. When we accept Christ he lives in our hearts. Jesus is really everywhere. Jesus told his disciples that all power was given to him in heaven and in earth.
What exactly did the disciples saw? Did they see a physical cloud? Did Jesus just vanished?
2 Corinthians 5:16 16So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. Watch my videos on this subject as well
Did we live and reign with Christ for 1000 years between 30 a.d. and 70 a.d.? That's only forty years not a thousand. Is this the new heaven and new earth where there are more sorrow or tears or sickness. Have the dead been resurrected and judged? The way I know know that all the prophecies haven't been fulfilled is this is no Kingdom I've ever been promised.
Is there a preterist / post millennial church that believes in the one true God who is NOT a trinity?
It is a quite a silly argument that if Jesus came in the cloud that makes him Yahweh, I am sorry.
He was transfigured!
This explanation does not help so there is one time in the history of the World that a man floated into the sky and that’s the first century😢
David where is the YAH in yeshua?
A faithful ambassador for the resurrected Hebrew Messiah is not out to
win friends and influence people they only want to share the wonderful
news about what the death of the true Messiah accomplished when He died.
2 Cor. 5:18
And all things are from Father YAHweh, who has reconciled us to Himself
by YAHWEHSHUA our King, and has given to us the ministry of
reconciliation;
5:19
Which means, that Father YAHweh was in His Son our Messiah, reconciling
the world to Himself, >>>>NOT
Billy Davis
His name is Christ Jesus.
@@Okieshowedem from all that discourse you wrote ... what I want to know is this....
Do you agree in this preterist view that its all done and nothing is left to be accomplished so nothing in the world will change
Or
Are we moving towards a future 2nd coming of Christ?
“as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.”
II Peter 3:16 NKJV
People have to start reading the Bible themselves. Read Matthew 24:29-34. Jesus gave a bunch of signs of the end times. Sun and moon darkened, loud trumpet etc. he said the generation that sees these signs occur will not die and will witness the second coming of Christ. The first century Christians never saw the sun darkened or stars fall from the sky. These teachers will lead you astray with their doctrines. Pastors shouldn’t be giving sermons on things they don’t fully understand
I have been looking but fail to see anywhere in scripture the term "the second coming." I certainly acknowledge the many scriptures in the Old Testament when God came in judgement on Nations.
You say that all Christians believe in the second coming. I actually don't think that is accurate. To say they all believe that Yeshua will return according to the Gospels would be more accurate.
It is interesting that in Acts 1 Jesus doesn't answer their question about the Kingdom. As a matter of fact He says the time of any restoration is only known to the Father.
So what I'm seeing in this account is that it doesn't seem to be related to "that generation." Nor does it seem to refer to the Son of Man coming in His glory.
It seems to me to be saying that Jesus has given the disciples an open-ended prophecy of future "time" or "season" which the Father has put in His own authority.
This seems to be in contrast to the accounts where Jesus very specifically indicates time and season throughout all 3 Synoptic Gospels.
So I don't quite see the problem from saying in Acts 1 that Jesus will return physically to the earth. I think is a little disingenuous to throw the question of what type of apparel He will be wearing upon arrival.
My question is why do we (I'm referring to Preterists and Partial Preterists) acknowledge the various comings in the Old Testament and then set up a term called "the second coming" in the New Testament and then ridicule any doctrine that may ascride third coming??
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I'm a partial preterist. Pastor Curtis is interesting to listen to, but where I differ with him is 70 AD was not the 2nd coming, but a "coming in judgment" using the Roman armies. The ancient creeds all teach that Jesus will physically return at the end of time. There will be a loud trumpet, the graves will be opened, dead believers will be resurrected, and those of us still alive will meet Him in the air. Human history will cease and eternity will start. Comfort one another with these words. Pastor Curtis has gone down a path (full preterism) that is contrary to all of Christian history. Repent, Pastor : )
Stick with your creeds and some of us will stick with Scripture 👍
The 2nd coming was future to them when the apostles creed was formulated. So you are right, but wrong in the recognition of its application. Daniel's 70 sevens and Daniel ch 12 do not allow a fulfillment beyond the 1st century. Even Jesus's own words contradict your assertions, so, who is right, you or Jesus?
@wmfivethree sure, the book starts and ends with SOON, but alas, it has a deeper meaing. Pray tell what that might be, while you're trying to do that, you ruin the credibility of Jesus and all the biblical writers, but that ain't no big deal, is it? Nah.........
The word coming is not in the scriptures, so I have always wondered why the Church creeds used the word coming? It is parousia. A presence. Here is how it works: The early fathers mistakenly thought of a literal return instead of using the Hebraisms of the OT. Most of the church fathers whose work is extant, were gentiles.
@@riverjao The creeds are based on Scripture, so there.
Jesus came back on the day of Pentecost.
Is Jesus the HS? If He is, then that would make sense. But He's not, He is distinct, eternally distinct.
@@markingersoll2671 what it is the temple was to be destroyed in the 40 years. He used the army to destory the temple. It wasn' t the torn on the day of Pentecost. The veil was ripped into when Jesus died.
@John lemay Lemay how do you know you weren't there? the bible tells us. If you don't believe it that is your problem. You are so doubtful about things.
The Lord (Jesus) is the Spirit and where the spirit is is freedom. It is God's spirit (power and presence) coming to believers through Jesus the mediator. The risen Christ became life giving spirit. Jesus will be with us until the end of the age. In the spirit.
@@bardowesselius4121 The end of the age was at the old covenant. We are in the age to come as Jesus spoke about.
I don’t like it when he describes Jesus as a short Jewish guy surfing on a cloud. Almost sounds like he is mocking God and His word. Doesn’t sit well and I don’t find it funny.
He is mocking those who are not allowing the scriptures to speak!