WARFRAME 2024 TIER LIST! | Get Your Popcorn Ready!
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- WARFRAME 2024 TIER LIST! | Get Your Popcorn Ready!
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What's good folks?!
I'm here with a 2024 Warframe Tier List! Talking about the good and bad parts about the Warframes we love.
Enjoy!
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00:00 - Opening
00:52 - How I will Rank
02:02 - Have Fun
02:14 - Rank Category
03:28 - Ash
03:53 - Atlas
04:24 - Banshee
05:24 - Baruuk
05:59 - Caliban
06:34 - Chroma
07:13 - Citrine
07:45 - Dagath
08:23 - Ember
08:33 - Equinox
09:00 - Excalibur
09:37 - Frost
10:15 - Gara
10:47 - Garuda
11:20 - Gauss
12:27 - Grendel
13:17 - Gyre
13:56 - Harrow
14:58 - Hildryn
16:02 - Hydroid
16:47 - TRASH
16:52 - Ivara
17:16 - Khora
18:17 - Kullervo
19:31 - Lavos
20:00 - Limbo
20:06 - Loki
20:39 - Mag
21:09 - Mesa
21:30 - Mirage
23:10 - Nekros
23:46 - Nezha
24:08 - Nidus
24:55 - Nova
25:25 - Nyx
25:45 - Oberon
25:51 - Octavia
26:23 - Protea
27:04 - Qorvex
27:37 - Revenant
28:03 - Rhino
28:22 - Saryn
28:39 - GLOOM
28:52 - Styanax
29:06 - Titania
29:45 - Trinity
30:34 - Valkyr
30:47 - Vauban
30:52 - Volt
31:53 - Voruna
32:40 - BOOTY
33:36 - Wukong
33:55 - Xaku
34:28 - K-Drive
34:57 - Zephyr
35:33 - Personal Choices
35:58 - Helminth is Involved
36:46 - Conclusion
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Tier List is shorter this year, no BS cutting to the chase.
Enjoy, Rage, Hate whatever.
Happy Holidays!
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00:00 - Opening
00:52 - How I will Rank
02:02 - Have Fun
02:14 - Rank Category
03:28 - Ash
03:53 - Atlas
04:24 - Banshee
05:24 - Baruuk
05:59 - Caliban
06:34 - Chroma
07:13 - Citrine
07:45 - Dagath
08:23 - Ember
08:33 - Equinox
09:00 - Excalibur
09:37 - Frost
10:15 - Gara
10:47 - Garuda
11:20 - Gauss
12:27 - Grendel
13:17 - Gyre
13:56 - Harrow
14:58 - Hildryn
16:02 - Hydroid
16:47 - TRASH
16:52 - Ivara
17:16 - Khora
18:17 - Kullervo
19:31 - Lavos
20:00 - Limbo
20:06 - Loki
20:39 - Mag
21:09 - Mesa
21:30 - Mirage
23:10 - Nekros
23:46 - Nezha
24:08 - Nidus
24:55 - Nova
25:25 - Nyx
25:45 - Oberon
25:51 - Octavia
26:23 - Protea
27:04 - Qorvex
27:37 - Revenant
28:03 - Rhino
28:22 - Saryn
28:39 - GLOOM
28:52 - Styanax
29:06 - Titania
29:45 - Trinity
30:34 - Valkyr
30:47 - Vauban
30:52 - Volt
31:53 - Voruna
32:40 - BOOTY
33:36 - Wukong
33:55 - Xaku
34:28 - K-Drive
34:57 - Zephyr
35:33 - Personal Choices
35:58 - If Helminth is Involved
36:46 - Conclusion
You know, there are people who love the BS Great list though.
Excal umbra was changed in the recent update I believe. I've been running him and haven't had issues with buff removal. there is a weird thing that happens where it glitches the screen for a second but the buffs stay
The baruuk one hurt
omg i just ask n u actualli delivereddd
W SHIRT BLEACH ON TOP!!
What’s funny is that Inaros was the first warframe I got after starting and he carried me through the star chart. This was back when covert lethality was an instant kill, though. The man put me on his back and pocket-sanded the entire galaxy, so at least I got to experience good memories with him
It was Nidus to me, my favorite by flavor reasons mostly, but the ability to group enemies is always great alongside great survivability.
Covert change killed him. Now hes basically just a glob of health/armor with a shitty heal and shitty CC.
Covert lethality was way too good. Makes sense they dont want something so easily killing level cap in 1 hit with a single mod. Condition overload nerf hurt too
@@undeadinside3571 Fr. It sucks cause I was gearing up to use it with the ash teleport augment, and as I was starting to get the plat for ash the nerf happened. Thinking of making something with that build today, for sorties or rando stuff
@@2baby2rex melee crescendo is the new godly tool for ash. You can keep max combo count all mission
With how many frames were put in lower tier because of needing armor strips, especially against Grineer, I am starting to think the issue is no longer with the frames, but with the enemies themselves. They are a core part of the game and an extremely prominent enemy throughout. If a single enemy type can shut down a majority of playstyles just by simply existing then I think it is about time we actually take a look at them and see if they are actually the problem and how they can be adjusted. Every time a frame is released without armor strip and older frames that still lack it, they are put in lower tiers of usability off that one aspect alone. Not the rest of their kit majority of the time. For the most part, instead of reworking each and every frame so they can actually do something in later parts of the games, what if we just rework the enemy that is causing all of the problems? I know everyone has issues with seeing their frame in lower tiers but honestly Knightmare is correct that they are ALL needing armor strips in some way to be usable against the higher level enemies, the main issue being Grineer.
Going back, not meening to repeat myself but more of expand, a single enemy should not be dictating how you play the game that much. In any game it is problematic, but this one especially it is the worst. 55 frames in the game, all with unique playstyles and most of them are mid at best because of that one enemy type. Not to mention all the weapons that get thrown to the side because they can't burst through them.
i wanna add a thought or better question to your comment. there is one thing i never understood with warframe tierlists: it seems that those tierlists ignore the existence of other things in the game. while it was specifically mentioned that helminth would be ignored for placements, when you mentioned armor strip i instantly thought of the focus school (unairu? not good with remembering names) that can armor strip. if a frame lacks a certain thing, the game gives you options to compensate. if i feel like i need armor strip and the frame cant do it, i can choose a focus school that can. if i feel like i want to have a defensive option, there is vazarin, if i feel like i need energy restored there is zenurik.
so why do warframe tierlists ignore the existence of schools to give what the frame itself lacks? its not like the lists care for early game when you dont have a focus school. so why cant we factor schools in when placing a unit? if the ONLY thing that makes a unit C instead of S is the lack of armor strip, then the unit should be S because you can always get armor strip from your focus school?
@@firby7341 Honestly I think the main issue still comes back to, the frames should be able to play the game, everything else should be there to facilitate the playstyle. While one of the schools does have an armor strip, it still goes from, "Well I need this frame or ability to even play the game because of this one enemy type." to, "Well now I need this one school because of this one enemy type." The main issue still remains that some frames are just not really able to play the game anymore while others can. We have other tools to supplement that, but that's what they should be, optional tools to expand the build. Not necessities that are required to play the frame you want to play just to have fun. If we were to add in everything else to the mix it would become a build tierlist, not a frame tierlist.
@@AsonoAwime issue with this is that you CAN use all the frames. all frames can reach level cap. Some frames just have an easier time doing so. If every frame were easy to use and nuked there wouldn’t be any variation or skill. Just cuz a frame “sucks” doesn’t mean they aren’t useable. You also have to remember that this tier list is subjective, just because some random CZcamsr says something is bad or not a tier doesn’t mean you can’t use it. The reason builds are so good in this game is due to the fact that you can make even the worst weapons/frames godly. I’ve not ran into any frame where I feel “can’t play the game”. The enemies are fine honestly, if anything we can use more variety of enemy types to make the game more interesting and require more skill.
If you water down to make things easy the game won't be challenging at all. Also different frames are good for different things. I still think reworks and buffs are better to level things. If we remove armor, the game will become irrelevant imo.
And another thing about the enemies, these tier list are mostly about grineer and armor, what about the other factions and mission types? some frames really have it hard when it comes to fighting infested and corpus, like limbo for example he would have a problem with corpus nullifiers but he's great vs the other factions and gauss can't tank hits from some infested bcuz of that toxic damage, voruna can't attack pass a nullifier without risking getting hit, nullifiers can shoot khora and break her strangle dome etc etc, and those issues can be fixed with helminth and some weapons but those things are never mentioned, its just all about if a frame can 123 nuke that's S tier and if there ability makes a frame good the owner of that ability isn't good. Tier list are opinion based but it's always bias bs
Man said Gyre was C tier because she has no innate armor strip, then ranked Harrow higher after literally saying he's unplayable in team comp and requires a tedious amount of prep for relevance 🤡
Khora is not a group Warframe. She makes killing enemies really obnoxious by stringing them up and leaving them hanging in the air, meaning that killing them is a huge pain. “Oh but Khora can just whip the dome and kill all the enemies in it” yeah that means Khora is the only one that gets to play, unless the other squad members like simulating the process of figuring out which bulb in a string of Christmas lights is burned out.
Fr I hate when I’m in defense and we have a khora who doesn’t whip the dome and leave the killing to me or my teammates.. it happens way too often
This is to hilarious but true
Skill issue
only scrub khoras do the net thing tbh all the nice ones use ensnare
Those are just bad Khora's, then. I only use dome in very specific situations. Ensnare is broken af for gathering and makes her 1 do double damage
Styanax: Gives entire team free infinite energy and 10-20k overguard. "Eh C-tier hes alright." XD
I main nekros, Octavia, and wukong and to see nekros and wukong that low is literally just mental.
_Lavos in D tier_
*Laughing alchemists.tga*
Yes, hes absolutely awful, atrocious and hard to play.
Please stay far, far away from him and leave everything to me. He's not very fun at all and I totally don't melt entire rooms with two buttons if not more while also applying debilitating status effects to everything which makes everything I do stronger. Status is horrible, always remember, _status is awful and you should stay away from it._
_why wont anyone make cosmetics for my boy?..._
No need to take it too seriously, KMF is the kind of youtuber that puts Primed Sure Footed on Lavos
@@jacobdery8856 The kind of CZcamsr to put Primed Sure Footed on Atlas
I finally understand why there's so much hatred around tier lists... Thank you.
Elaborate
its the truth man us og vets play enough to know more then new players only real players know the tiers to warframe so cry about it you dont know anything about this game fuck ya shitty frame also
This is the worst tier list I've ever seen, keep up the good work ❤
Agreed
Aw did someone’s warframe get a bad tier
@jeremy.batista1491 more like 1/3rd of the warframes got entirely misplaced. Try to argue anybody that has ever actually used Rhino's kit that he belongs anywhere below A tier, I don't even like him much it's just been a fact of the game for years.
Best damage buff ability in the game, one of the best survivability abilities in the game, the strongest CC ability in the game... all in one kit.
@@jeremy.batista1491 the fact that you don't see what's wrong with the tier list that he made and yet you're lookin for good warframes on the CZcams, then I'm pretty sure I already got hint on your intelligence and personality. Good day sir.
@@CollateralKaosiron skin gets nuked in endurance fast
Lesson of the day…use who you like 😊
- Starts a tierlist based on Best warframe's base kit.
- gets to sevagoth.
- points out the feature so strong almost every other warframes wants helminthed.
- puts it below nyx.
This is either bait or shitpost.
You completely missed the entire point that being that the only useful thing about sevagoth is the one thing every other frame can use, making sevagoth as a frame completely useless
sevagoth is more useful than some of those A tier frames he mentioned and what's the point of making a tier list if its just about helminth? Bias list honestly, sevagoth can debuff enemies, make any weapon red crit, nuke rooms on any lvl 1 shot enemies on any lvl with shadow claws even on steel path and has great synergies with other helminth abilities, I've seen other tier list and ppl put him in B to S tier so this is just a bias list
Both lol. He put Styanax in C tiers whan Styanax is a S tier.
I didnt missed the point, I heard it and thought it was silly.
Even if sevagoth ONLY had gloom, one of the best abilities in the game, it would still be better than Nyx... Which has... Nothing really.
A nyx with gloom is a better nyx, in other words sevagoth's powers make nyx a better warframe.
@@muriomoira they skipped the first part of the video ig
It sucks to be a Valkyr main. No matter how many times you instantly kill bosses or revive your team of MR 30 dorks who can't stay alive for 3 minutes you're still called D tier cause you can't sneeze on multiple enemies from 1000 miles away or something. I think most of you just hate Warframes if you have to push more than three buttons while using them.
Lol this is really true
He put gauss in s tier and he is VERY active, the most active even and I agree with him. its just that valkyr's kit is pretty dated. A melee speed buff and a good exalted is not enough as there are several warframes that do it better than her and survivability has never really been an issue in warframe.
Be honest, valkyr only has one good ability lmao
That is probably cause she is hindered by her kit that literally works backwards on her, bad stance and weird stats that does not help her in the slightest. The only thing that makes her remotely relevent is her 4th and it's ridiculous damage, but even that has something working against it as the drain is still requiring a stream of energy that can only be applied via energy orbs (or minis from Emergence Dissipate) or Energize.
She is the literal definition of a dated warframe that needs a rework, not just to make her a more versatile frame but to also give her better flavor in an environment that that lets you annihilate groups of enemies from 1000 meters away and immortality at the press of a button.
This comes from a once passionate Valkyr main of around 10 years I want her to be better, not "good enough".
Valkyr is the one pushing less thsn 3 buttons
Frames like Khora are more active than valkyr could ever hope to be
HOW. DARE. YOU???
I haven’t started watching yet but I concur.
Yes how dare you my favorite frame!?
Sounds like we have found our first Inaros main
DARE. YOU. HOW!
Baruuk rating got me like:
Reasons to never believe someone else's opinions
Elaborate
"There is one frame that hasn't moved from tier"
Me: Saryn? You just said she hasn't moved from S tier since her release
Yes saryn. Inaros wasn't always trash tier until people realized he was.
@@sd6gaming367to be fair
Inaros was good once
Then they nerfed his succ so it takes 30 years to succ one enemy
Then the powercreep got so high that it takes 300 years
Counterpoint, excal umbra has a scarf
And the best skins you could buy definitely a S tier warframe ... for fashion
for him
his scarf aint right
Almost 180k views and only over 5k likes. How far the mighty have fallen. Only thing you should expect from someone who uses primed sure footed on their atlas prime
Lol 😂
I felt like you were going to attack me through the screen. so passionate about ranking frames
flynn when u gna upload again 😁
Wow, over a year ago?
Saw you streamed wispers recently. Didnt watch bc i didnt want to spoil it for myself. But if i may ask is this the return of the king? Or was it just for a stream to play the quest?
OG Ember was amazing. When they made her abilities fill up a bar and changed what the abilities do, she died for me.
Old ember wouldn't survive on the current damage system. If you time heat meter witg fire blast you can strip the entire room of armor couple that with a thermal sunder helminth and archon vitality..you can clear rooms efficiently. Most people make the mistake of rigging her with large amounts of power strength and expect to manage energy well.
Gara C is crazy. infinite scaling damage, can nuke the whole map, 90% DR, what else do you want?
I was just thinking that. Yeah, you can lose your damage. But I don’t think it’s nearly bad enough to put her in C tier
As a Gara main, with a good Jaw Sword riven build and a helminth I'd say she's at least a B tier. But you really are locked into using her 1 and 4 over and over again, which may not be that fun compared to other frames.
Only one playstyle is more effective than Baruuk tho
*sees chroma in chroma*
*Remembers he can heal himself and allies, has insane armor and damage, can apply heat and cold, good for profit taker, is literally the steel path starter pack*
NOT SAING HE DESERVES S TIER, but D tier is not where he sits😭
His damage is literal shit tier
actual sand boy main here. The situation gotten so bad my wife would make a valid argument against him at this point.
damn, my guy
How can you main Inaros when he's got nothing going on? Grab yourself ahold of Revenant or Hildryn, as they are also Gigachad tanks and do much more than he does.
As - perhaps - one of the last Oberon mains...I play Oberon because I love raising an entire forest wherever I go. \o/ If I could, I would literally use my frame to turn the inside of a Grineer ship into an unyielding jungle - if I could. And yes, I built my Oberon for his second ability.
just curious as to why nezha is only B tier this year as opposed to S tier from last year even though no changes were made to him
The gamestate changed
Honestly, Hildryn is my new go to tank frame. She's immune to energy thieves (so annoying) and with corrosive projection and a few archon shards, she can full stripe armour in a single cast. The shield rework boosted her survivability in higher tier missions, same with adding taxon (or any companion that fills shields when empty), lastly Arcane Aegis, if you can afford it works wonders. Very braindead to play and I like that after a hard day's work.
loki in d tier is criminal he only needs a couple of mods to be basically invincible bc if you activate his invisibility the enemies wont attack bc you cant attack what you cant see and if you put mods like narrow minded, primed continuity, streamline and one of efficiency mod you can be invisible for 30+ seconds for less than 30 energy and you can get him really early on making him pretty good and it doesnt matter if a warframe can replace his 3 abilities with 1 ability bc his 4th ability disables the enemies guns forever making them use their melee weapons forever which basically no warframe can do.
Ok, I do agree that Loki is affordable. But, one ability to become invisible should not be enough to make a Warframe powerful. It would just mean that he would survive as well as the other invincible warframe (which are plenty), but a good frame would bring more to the table. And... Apart from the invisibility, I could say the 4 is quite powerful on paper, but it doesn't really synergize that well with the rest of the kit.
And we don't talk about the decoy and teleportation, they are now obsolete thanks to the helminth.
I don't know why so many people are trolling this content. If people would pay attention; the ratings are based on their base kits. I love playing Hildryn, but I agree she is not fun with infested. Get a grip ppl.
In all honesty, i fuck with this tierlist. Your reasoning are solid and you give a lot of valid points for each frame. Im not saying i totally agree with everything, I do have my own opinions of a few, but that's all personal preference and meme material for the most part. 10/10 vid as always mate, keep it up and I hope you had a good new year :]
Sometimes when you go on a trip, the real pleasure can be found in the voyage itself, not only arriving at your destination.
What was said at the end really matters, if you enjoy a warframe, keep playing it. Just keep an open mind about trying newer stuff every now and then.
Always remember to have fun.
Hydroid climbing out of the low tiers really does put a smile on my face. The rework did him justice
A lot of my favorite frames got ranked pretty low here but I'm not mad, you make good points. I am returning to the game after a long time so I'm still figuring out some of the mechanics that are new to me, I had no idea you could swap out frame skills and I don't know what you mean by "hemlinth" but I enjoyed the video, thanks.
hemlinth is the process in which you place other frames abilities onto other frames
Styanax being C tier is absurd.
Team shield, energy and overguard buffing, fast cast armor strip + self heal and a ton of strong slash procs while giving Overguard to the team... he's easily A tier, like if he was any better he'd be S tier.
A lot of the other placements I can kinda understand, but a LOT of C tier doesnt belong there and a lot of B tier either belongs one tier below or above.
Gara, Grendel, Titania, Mirage, Nidus, Styanax and Rhino all deserve to go up 1 or 2 tiers and it's not even hard to argue that. Idk how some of those frames are in D while CALIBAN is in C... like you seriously think Hildryn, Yareli and Chroma are worse than Caliban? you're high.
@@KesslerCOILkesslercoil #1 fact spitter
same with wisp in s , she cannt even do 10 % of stynax . hell , even tank is better supp that wisp
@@decompilerlite I can see the argument for S for Wisp but id personally place her in high A. Her easy access buffs are very strong, she's invisible if she just bunnyhops, can go fully invulnerable at the click of a button and frankly Breach Surge is kinda disgusting.
I disagree with your Grendel ranking. Just because his helminth ability is busted with other frames doesn't mean he's bad. He has massive AOE armor stripping, scaling damage, powerful tanking abilities, and great self sustain with an incredible shield that's great at abusing shield gating with Brief Respite. Even if nourish is better on other frames, that doesn't mean Grendel himself isn't an incredibly capable frame in his own right.
That said, enemies with over guard do hurt him hard, and it seems like those are far more abundant now than when he originally got reworked. I still think C is too low, B or even low A would be a better ranking imo.
Crazy seeing you here enjoy the content homie
I also agree Grendel is really good now rework did him justice
Also this comment section is quite the salt fest huh
I get stoned and hunt and fish with ivara
😭😭
this dude is different
@@slinksiamang747 have you not tried ivaras tripwire or whatever its called to go out in the middle of the lake and fish? Its quite the hack
Idk I’ve never thought of Lavos as a nuking Warframe. When you base him off just that, then yeah he's not a good one, especially in higher levels. I always thought of him as a comfort frame though. No energy to worry about, the ability to make any element/element combo at any time (meaning fire/corrosive armor strip, magnetic shield melting, and viral health deleting on demand), universal health and energy orbs/ammo mutation, lifesteal on his 1, and a decently high base armor. The guy doesn't even really need helminth either
I thought he was just mastery fodder but after playing with him a bit he’s rapidly become one of my all time favorites. A really enjoyable play style with fun nuking potential that is more compelling than the alternatives imo.
I am a Octavia Main and have her running with Dispencer on her 2nd. With her build I have a huge aoe and its 36 secs between recasting her 1,2,4 abilities. I call this my give me a sec I brb build. lol. I am extremely lazy and mostly stand in one place and dance emote between casting. She was made for me and I love her. That being said, I LOVE your video and fully agree with your list. Please keep up the great work!! :)
Me but with wukong prime i pretty much let my twin handle my light weight 😂😂😩
Just recently started getting into this game. After getting a login bonus giving me 50% off some platinum I decided dropping $25 on the game wouldn't hurt. I was reading through the descriptions and when I saw Wisp and the concept of going between the physical and ethereal plane, I bought that frame on fucking spot. I started on Mag and really enjoyed that playstyle, but Wisp is just so damn versatile and fun all the time, plus no one is complaining when they see I'm playing Wisp and giving out free buffs all the time. If I found this game before Destiny 2 I don't think I'd have so many hours on D2 lol.
Oberon is my most played warframe Hunter Adrenalin + renew carried me through the starchart as a new player. I pretty much played this frame exclusively for a long time. Kind of lost out to Nezha and Wukong as the Frame to play when you want to not die.
in the end use the frame you want, Most of our DMG comes from weapons anyway, Thats why I just run around with umbra
I love it how he discarded most of warframes for being good at only one thing (which isn't room clearing) but when he got to Revenant he's brain goes "big tank=S tier"
Edit: P.S. if anyone wants to visit a circus for free open replies of this comment
@hawkens022I don't think good weapons platform really affected his ranking buddy
@hawkens022 also other frames can act as much better weapons platforms or the other frames that can also become immortal i.e hildryn ,lavos, chroma, any other tanks frames even the squishys
@hawkens022 not to mention that tanking damage isn't good in warframe as the main way to really scald up and be good is through damage in a area you may be immortal but so are the level 9999 enemys
@@standingsalt yeah but who other than elitists lacks a brain or has the patience to get to level cap
@hawkens022 their points were bad, but revenant is not a special case. There are frames who can tank more than serviceably while also having a better kit than Rev. The way he discarded other frames for being not good at everything and then put revenant (who is just a 1 trick pony, there are MUCH better weapons platforms and MUCH better CC frames, and several of each) instantly in S is a problem.
Revenant deserves A tier, questionably S tier, but he doesn't deserve it if so many other frames who are much better all around, and other focused niche frames like rev got sent below B tier. Rev is great, but he ain't better as an all-rounder than numerous other frames.
Honestly I'm shocked Hildryn is in D tier. I know her pillar ability is best used on other frames, but she's awesome at steelpath. The blazing pillage archon vitality setup with her is devastating
She has good tank. But what about her damage output ability? And do the team really need that much amount of shield for tanking? Player can use a single augur mod to achieve shield gating. If the survivability isn’t an issue. What are Hildryn uses for?
@@xiaohuang3062 Snu snu.
@@riven4121 F epic.
@@xiaohuang3062 Hildryn does tons of damage with blazing pillage and is busted as fuck with chroma subsume on yellow. I feel like people just dont play her so they dont understand this lmao
@@xiaohuang3062 like I said, blazing pillage. You don't even have to subsume roar, but when you do it is unreal amounts of brain dead damage. Go on any Gren mission, blazing pillage setup with archon vitality, watch them fall
I like how your 4 criteria simply just describes volt.
I've mained volt since alpha. Still main him to this day. Theae says I use pillage and shock trooper. 352% strength and 250% duration. That's a lot of extra electric damage. Since the update that made it so you can pick up his shield with a primary I just use the amprex for the ultimate zappyboi fantasy....and it never gets old.
Harrow should at least be A tier. His warding thurible gives his team more energy than they will ever know what to do with, Condemn is an insane CC tool for landing headshots, and Covenant may as well be called: "Say hello to the crit cap." I do agree it can be frustrating for new players to play him because they won't have a good weapon yet, and also rotating his abilities can be daunting, but once he gets a good weapon, he can easily keep up with his team to give them 500-1000 energy a kill on top of his other utilities.
I am also raising an eyebrow at Styanax being in C tier. He can not only give allies overguard, he can also give them shields and energy as well as strip armor and shields, self heal, vacuum mobs, gain crit chance based on how many shields he has, and do very respectable damage with his 4.
Having Octavia in A tier just cause you think her play style is annoying is just biased she’s for sure S tier she’s pretty much untouchable if used correctly
i player her , but canno deny she is extremly boring to play .
@@lonewo835 fun is subjective and even than that don’t change the fact that she should be S tier she can nuke a map with just her 1 and your pretty much untouchable with the 3
Based on that logic then Limbo is also S tier.
nah
she boring af but we know she strong
Octavia is only good solo. she falls short in everything team based. her play style in solo is boring af. tbh I place her B tier since plenty of frames are just better.
You know what is hilarious to me?
It is that people need to be reminded that the main goal of their game is to have fun.
People are craving validation with these tier lists 😂
Great video as always man
Fun is not objective, but numbers and abilities are.
@jormungandr4690 Yes, true. But that has nothing to do with what I am saying.
If you play video games as a hobby and for fun, just do whatever makes you have fun.
Basically don't get mad if someone tells you your warframe is bad or not meta. If you have fun with it and that is your goal, then just keep at it.
My comment was not really aimed at this particular video, but just at the fact that people get pissed at tier lists because they take it personally. As if the way they play defines them in some way haha.
Just fucking have fun
you are 100% right, but it makes for a good content seeing people cry and take their favourite frames rankings personal
@@nbassasin8092 hahaha ! I guess... and his vidéos are good so... worth it
Overall octavia has to be higher, they can do almost anything with her kit, on overworld missions where you have to stand beside the crates to capture them, her 1st skill can capture crates while you capture another crate with your war frame and i think you can tele out into operator and capture 3 crates at the same time
Yeah i would argue saryn is just as boring
@@NeostormXLMAX but Octavia is easily one of the funnest and most unique frames if you’re good at making music 👍 most people aren’t creative enough and just put a spammy tune on or silence her volume because they know their songs are shit. But no shit that play style would be boring, it completely defeats the purpose of her kit and takes out the fun completely. Who wants to sit there with either a shitty ass song or a song with the volume off?? Creativity diff fs 💯
Everyone keeps talking about the nerf on wukong but hes my absolute best to this day
rhino’s stomp puts a 98% slow on even over-guarded enemies, and many bosses, without requiring line if sight, so it’s the best CC in the game and mandatory for level cap circuit defence. un-diminished roar is also the strongest team buff in the entire game. and between his new over-guard gate and his 4th augment buff making it a % iron skin heal, he is equally as unkillable as revenant as long as you have the energy for an iron skin recast (nourish over his 1 is plenty, and combined with undiminished roar makes him a pretty crazy weapon platform).
I agree with you man, this guy puts primed sure footed on atlas even though that guy is known for punching in grounded gameplay
Honestly I would go as far and say that rhino is better than revenant
Revenants 1 3 4 are kinda useless compared to rhino having 3 good abilities along with rhino becoming infinitely more tanky as a mission gets harder
@@imajoker6859bro which copium are u on? Gimme some of that
@@nileshgardi1783 you must be crazy or don’t use rhino with his 4 augment
Revenant one shots as rhino does not. Both tank and both cc. Revenant just better
Personally, i don't think limbo is that bad. He has a very high skill cap and requires a pretty specific build to work, but when he does, you just massacre hordes of enemies, while they helplessly try to damage you. I think he deserves a little more recognition
Hes still pretty bad, especially if youre try to do all that with allies. Limbos kit just creates a big pile of clunky gameplay that he gives to his teammates. Playing with limbo on my team feels as good as playing with lag. Sometimes i can damage enemies, other times i can't.
Solo i can make him serviceable as you say but its not at all entertaining. And thats the only real reward you get from playing different warframes so, it translates to high skill 0 reward. His abilities dont look cool so i start feeling like im playing a frame with no abilities.
Limbos just got so much to work against him. He feels unloved
@@winterwraith8339
I get it, Limbo might be part of those frames that are better off doing things solo.
But I disagree, CC might not be as revolutionary as it was before but Limbo makes a good use of it and so much more, he's great for spy missions, defense missions that involve protecting an npc, and his energy economy is always top notch, indeed the eximus rework took a beat on him but it also did for every bloody warframes (matter of fact, as long as you're not in contact with the eximus's status, he can't hurt you).
This tier list is just completely out of order, when you hear his reasoning it doesn't convince the warframe is bad, it actually convinces you that he knows jack nothing of what he's talking about.
And how dare you call this distinguished gentleman abilities not looking cool?!!
@@Yuiichiiro The stuff you mentioned is what i would i would assume everyone knows about limbo, just the word for it, is not great, its servicable. Just cause it gets the job done doesnt mean its great when frames do it better. Id only give him the crown for the defense mission with the walking npc, that missions is horrid. Outside of that, "great" is a bit of a reach
@@winterwraith8339 I'm going to beat you with the stick, we'll see who's serviceable
@winterwraith8339 pretty true, but I'm not saying he is a great warframe. I'm just saying there are a lot of people out there who don't know his full capabilities and how to actually play him, which is honestly the games fault. Its pretty complicated. If you want to see for yourself, i recommend watching "how limbo became the most misunderstood warframe" by NovaUmbral. He also has some other great videos worth checking out. Anyway, as i was saying, limbo isn't great, but with the right setup and if you know how to use his 3rd 4th and 2nd ability efficently, you would be surprised by what he can achieve.
Returning player from 2018 on nintendo switch with new account merger. I have always been a FAITHFUL PREACHER of Mag. Early game, mid game, late game, endgame. It's just incredibly comfy to play, you have anti shield, disarm, armor strip, stun, projectile redirect, resource pulling magnetism. I had gotten a Vectis Prime way back when, and i invested my initial 50 plat + scraps to get myself Mag Prime. Im now in Eris still rocking that, investing in Perrin Sequence to really get Mag her best abilities.
learned max range limbo is a beautiful thing on the new mirror defense despite public distain for him
You should do a fun factor tier. The stat that matters to me the most.
Would love to see a tier list where you rank enjoyability rather than meta. I'm curious where you would put everyone if SP didn't exist and you could just use whoever you wanted.
I understand where you are coming from, but why make a tier list if all you want is a totally personal and subjective opinion
Like how "fun" a frame is.
@@franklinfernandes5593 Just because he bases his builds around endgame SP and doesn't mention fun factor too much. He did here when talking about Gauss and it made me wonder what other frames he enjoys but can't really enjoy in SP. He's mentioned several times for example that it's possible to take Inaros to level cap but to my knowledge hasn't made a video about frames that he thinks are fun but potentially useless in endgame. Not everyone plays SP exclusively. He refers to Sevagoth as Gloom because he's mostly used as Helminth fodder and ranked him low but does that mean he's "boring" to play? People get riled up about rankings being subjective so I would like to see him throw out objectivity and admit he loves playing Yareli for fun when nobody's watching.
Hildryn has more uses than just a Pillagebot, she's also secretly a support frame. Slap on Voracioius Metastasis with low efficiency and your allies basically have infinite energy (restores 100+/sec for the duration). Haven gives your allies constant shield regen and maximum shieldgating. Pillage keeps your shields topped off so you never run out of "energy". It's a really satisfying playstyle if you're into support.
Plus that same low efficiency build can full strip armor in 1 cast, so its an all in one build. Hildryn even got a buff recently with primed redirection
That's a Felmingham, not the actual frame
I recommend revisting Rhino. Being able to slot Nourish (or another dmg buff) while having the strong version of Roar makes him a great weapons platform and stomp is one of, if not the best CCs in the game. Use Reinforcing Stomp to refresh his Iron Skin and ignore building for armor. Steel Path enemies do enough damage that Rolling Guard into a group gives enemies plenty of time to start blasting you. And you don't need PSF, so you can give him a much needed movement mod in the Exilus slot.
Gyre is another I'd bump up, but that's probably more my bias towards seeing my abilities red critting all over the place.
This list is based on the Warframe's base kit which is why Rhino is so much lower. When it comes to base kits (or even with helminth IMO), Revenant is just the better tank in every way.
Stynax being in C tier is wack. Unlimited overshields for the team and yourself, high over guard for yourself and the team. Complete armor strip, and crowd control. Like how is that C tier?
But realistically high level that overguard is pointless and can be overwhelmed by enemies and easily removed shield
@@Sunny-gm5wp never had that issue within steel path. Rally point can just constantly be activated as it regenerates energy as well. This never losing shields. As long as you can kill. 45k over guard is plenty, at least for my play style. With that being said, energy is a must forsure, but again, rally point is the go to for unlimited energy
He said without helminth or AUGMENTS. How are you infinitely stacking OG without the augment
Still, Styanax without helminth is A tiers. This list just prouves he doesnt give a shit. And just to remind, Styanax with his augment doesnt need to kill to get overguard, he needs to touch mobs with the spears. So 1 ennemie can give you a lot of overshield. It did solo the new murmure boss in Steel path and 60eyes with a Styanax. So his is S tiers. End of story lol
@@lorkhan3488 summed up pretty well.
I personally think Zephyr sholuld be S tier. You press 3 and they basically can't kill you with projectiles, also enemies cant hit you with melee attacks bc you're always airborne. Her 2 and 4 are amazing crowd control tools that help spread damage SO MUCH, she's honestly unreal with stuff like Torid Incarnon. I'm honestly not a fan of replacing her 1, bc it's an amazing mobility tool while also helping you stay airborne proccing her passive if you just hold cast. She's honestly really good almost everywhere in the game bc of how versatile she feels to me. What's funny is that I never thought I'd have this much fun with such a simple kit like hers (she's also super easy to mod, just slap rolling guard for whenever the 3s cooldown ends, some range and equilibrium/efficiency and you're done), and it feels kinda crazy that she's still somewhat unpopular overall. Perhaps my biggest discovery in the game yet.
its a well known fact how good Zephyr is and has been for almost 2 years now
but she is A, her gameplay is incomarapble to the frames above her, and also she is one dimensional
that one dimension is insanely strong, so A is deserving, but it is still limiting
I haven't had the privilege of using her outside of duviri (she was insanely fun) but i would be worried about explosions or those stupid arc traps in sp
Video was fun to watch while farming thanks
Been gone for years, my favorites when I left were Mesa (Prime came out around the time I played last) and Gauss, who I think was also pretty new. Glad to see they're doing well. I can play Gauss for fun, and Mesa Prime with my ridiculous aimbot loadout to play while half asleep! XD
Sad to see Baruuk get relegated to what feels like nothing, sure he may be my main go to frame but that's cause I find his kit actually fun to use except for ellude we don't talk about that one.
Don't be sad, it's just someone's tierlist ^^ From who don't know and couldn't reach to Baruuk's capacity...
This guy actually has terrible game knowledge don’t listen to him please
@@sambrock9279 I could tell from how he worded certain things about frames, especially since most of the frames he put in C tier were ya know, DPS and good too
The heck is the point of a tier list while ignoring a MASSIVE part of the game and how frames operate currently(Helminth). Should have ranked with base kit AND with meta helminth per frame with two different ratings at least.
I love Wisp she is amazing support and attack frame just all round perfection, I have helped so many players beat events and Steel path missions with this frame and now she has a prime version with her unique set of personalised weapons... S tier definitely!
By and large I agree, but on Hildryn, you forgot Blazing Pillage, which lets Pillage work on anything regardless of shields. She blends infested just as well as any other faction. So at that point you have a frame that does solid damage in an AOE, strips armor and shields, dramatically increases her squad's survivability, and has a mediocre exalted and a top tier helminth slot. She ought to be higher than D- I'd argue she's better than Harrow or Trinity, but YMMV.
I seriously don't understand how Misa could end up in A-tier and Titania ended up not even B, but C
It's just absurd, considering her good DD potential
I've played a very large number of hours on Titania in my time. And all the people who spoke badly of her didn't even understand how to build for her
If a frame is so commonly misunderstood then perhaps, even if she has the potential to be strong, she's designed poorly.
@@avocadoarms This warframe has defense against any status with the 1st ability
The 2nd ability grants damage reduction to any ally by 50%, regardless of the type of incoming damage. The buff lasts for 2 minutes. Fixed zone, only energy efficiency can be adjusted
The third ability is usually replaced by Helmite with Nourish or another ability
- Nourish provides good energy sustain and viral damage
The fourth ability is already well known to everyone, but its basis is a secondary weapon
- It is possible to combine elemental damage: radiation, fire, corrosion, virus + physical damage types
- The problem of magazine capacity is solved by Arcane Pistoleer and Seeker mod
To summarize, it's definitely not C rank. Possibly as in the case of Saitama, I guess
@crystrash like pablo said "no one reads" lol. Titania requires a bit too much brain power for people to care to understand, AND its ALL for rewards that arent significant. Thats the bad design.
50 damage reduction in a game where no 1 is dying often? Thats like using an umbrella for the rain when youre completely dry inside of a house. Same thing with the status immunity.
4th is a secondary weapon. Nough said.
3rd is subsumed over so thats a joke.
0 usefulness. Shes our fastest warframe tho i might add, so she useful for jokes and pick ups
@@winterwraith8339 "no one is drying often" say that to the sp random gunner who's sneezing on you.
You got beef with secondary weapons when leatum's booming every mission imaginable.
And her third being bad is actually convenient since you have less thinking to do (favourite warframe players sentence) when replacing a lacking ability on her.
@@Yuiichiiro man... did you just try to scare me... with a SP heavy gunner???...
Cause we got a STEEP power level difference if that was the first thing to come to your head as any kind of threat. Gotta work on your builds before saying some stuff like that man...
I said its just a secondary weapon, not secondary weapons are bad.
"Since you have less thinking to do" thats a pro for very specific people for sure lol. I dont find thinking about replacing 1 of 4 great abilities as negative, its fun cause no matter what i pick the build is still good and offers different playstyles if i choose to replace something else. Unlike with having a bad ability, subsuming anything other than it will cut the frames potential down, making it more boring. Far less variety
I just finally downloaded warframe on pc and got my cross save after 5?years. I’m so lost on what to do. Watching this tierlist I was wondering, do I even have any good frames anymore? I was holding my breath to see where my favorite frame from back in the day Saryn would be placed. I got an ad the moment you mentioned her name and held my breath to see…she’s still S tier baby
Use his build she's a beast.
geez ppl are so butthurt, I love Hildryn, she is my thicc mama, but indeed she's sucks against infested, her 4th is meh so I get the tier.
Put Roar on Rev and he is a much better Rhino than Rhino, indeed he's boring to play because that's his whole point, a walking immortal gun dude
Knightmareframe the type of guy to tell people to always put prime sure footed on all their frames😂
Well he is
Besides for revenant most voruna builds and few others
Why when that’s correct wimp
Rhino should b higher cc 4 enemies can’t do anything u can get iron skin health back with augment. Roar- self explanatory. Iron skin-tank with investment. Charge is trash but that’s the helminth slot. You can add nourish and then u have the two best weapon buffers in the game. Atleast B tier. Even without helminth you have universal damage buff cc and tanking
Good tier list. I'm just playing some again after a long time. I'm an Ivara main. Based on your criteria, I understand why she's placed as C. Personally, I rank her higher, but I also enjoy her slower, more methodical playstyle... although she desperately needs a speed boost. I do use her for spy successfully. Other frames can do it faster, but for me, she does it safer. For a relaxed style of play, she's very good.
As a new player, i could do without the "nothing to explain". oh well
Keep in mind these types of lists only really apply if you're trying to hyper optimise your game. You'd need some SERIOUS amount of hours under your belt before you'd even start to care. You also have dozens of weapon combos to consider. Unless i'm levelling the mastery on a frame, I have a few favourites that I stick to because I enjoy the playstyle of the frame. Nyx is my favourite frame but is C tier (I think) according to this fella's list. Play what you enjoy and enjoy what you play!
@@kdog3908 I honestly just wanted to check this for a summary of how each warframe works but I guess I'll Che k other better suited videos
@@Raven3557 this list is a joke, don't take it at any value. Even Loki is in the wrong Tier. Should swap places with Inaros, even though Inaros is a really solid frame since he comes with massive self heals and ungodly tankiness along with the ability to heal allies while CC'ing enemies. His ability numbers need work done and his 3 needs either a rework on needs to be replaced cuz it's the weakest part of his kit that does more harm than good by displacing the enemies all over the place
This tier list is worthless for new players, or any player not looking to minmax the fuck out of their game really. Most of these "C tier frames" are really good and can definitely hold their own in normal missions and quests
20:00 tf does that even mean? Limbo in D because "there are better frames" he is not the best but out of all the problems he has you say "there are better frames"?
Octavia not being S tier is absurd.
I’m just getting into warframe, is Gauss actually good? Actually fun? I’d like to know.
Gauss is pretty good and fun. I mean, going quick is always fun, but you can literally take out a melee weapon and delete entire rooms by running around. It's a pain to get the parts though.
Gauss is extraordinary, no helminth required.
Super fun
My first prime frame and I have NO regrets, super fun
I still have hope that Valk and Oberon will get some buff or rework
So good to see Citrine, Wisp and Voruna so high on the list. My favorites for sure
Have been maining Oberon for a REALLY long damn time. I know he isn't busted or whatever and that he is quite damn outdated but I just can't let go off the goat man and his aesthetic and shit.
Hydroid prime went from the worst to practically the best for general use. Love it
His transfered is also insanely good on zephyr or qorvex with the augment. Mainly zephyr
Ice Wave may have been memed into its grave, but with the cold proc changes, being able to toss that slow/crit buff onto a huge cone is overall generally good (particularly going a couple of entries up where Dagath was called out as having decent CC, lol).
The 1 has its use cases when you want to freeze one hard target for Biting Frost without enough enemies to be worth using his 4, or augmented is a damage buff that can open a mod slot when making viral, or work on its own for weapon based CC (and the like, 3-4 Arcanes now that benefit off cold procs)
Me who presses revenant's 4 in the beginning in the mission and keeps it up till the end. I love it😂.
I'd think Titania would be higher, I'd say A, but at least B. Her mobility is second to none in a game of mostly tight corridors and turns everywhere. She can remove status effects from herself and teammates, has great evasion, her Dex Pixia slaps, and with the new radiation mod I'd argue Diwata no longer sucks either, or at least I've yet to have any issue wiping SP/Circuit enemies with it. Definitely benefits from Helminth and archon shards though.
feel like your way off on baruuk. i get youve set your own factors and are grading him to your own set conditions but just the damage alone should warrant him into A teir regardless of his standing in any other category you could invent. you can take him to any mission type, his damage together with the lull spam to keep your ult up gives him complete control over most any situation you could find yourself in, dude is a death machine.
there are a few others i dont quite agree with but this was the only one that felt outrageous to me lol.
Im a returning player, gone since midway through Cetus and been looking at guides.
Gotta say I love your channel, way of speaking, and reasonings.
I was looking at all the new frames and Gauss is lining up with prime access release so I might just do that tbh
Take care this is a very very subjective tier list, not representing a rank in power or usefullness of WF, the list is very broken. the C tier is the most broken a lot of Wf in C should be higher.
Nice this looks like a good guide to what is currently good from not playing aince like 2018ish
Mirage is an easy S tier. Period. Wukong has 3 revives just from his passive, and his clone is op no matter what anyone says. It's easily capable of one shotting end game enemies without a problem
ok proof
I like Mirage but nowadays I play Xaku in the role I used to use Mirage for i.e buff my damage and shoot things really good.
yes, but you don't need revives if you just play Revenant or any tank for that matter or Shield Gate, or even just play in a squad.
Gloom 😔
I’m curious what you would rate Hildryn with the Burning Pillage augment.
I really like that this years tier list is way more compact and shorter
Something for all newbies to learn, 10 years ive been playing farmframe, never over invest, never get attached, the nerf hammer strikes sooner or later, the bigest outrage was bless trin, and they didnt back track ot, just get used to it
I still miss my OP Synoid Gammacor and Synoid Simulor
This tier list is based on his preference right? Because if its based on the usefulness of the frames... oh boy
Majority of these are accurate on usefulness regardless of how u feel
@@PetroleumJellyJuggernaut a lot are pretty off regardless of how he feels
@@PetroleumJellyJuggernaut elaborate
@@Yuiichiiro I gotta rewatch the vid again
Thank you for this awesome video! Coming back, with Gauss prime, and you're absolutely right-- very active (good for my ADHD) but still a tactical frame
I feel like I'm the only person in Warframe that still plays Oberon lol. I switched his 4 with Ember's helminth and then slapped on his smite augment. I don't think he needs a major rework but maybe some tweaks here an there can bring him up to a C tier at least.
Nobody : We are ranking warframes on how strong they are it's not about your favorite.
Octavia A tier why?
She is boring
Bro dont know what the word strong means
Caliban is apparantly better than hildryn in this guy's opinion, gg
Ive been a Ember main since the day she got reworked and had no problems clearing level cap or any content, although i can agree with your placement she will forever remain as my favourite warframe to use.
Great to see Hydroid get the love he needs! I had alot of fun maining him my last session. RIP Puddle prime. Hello King Kraken.
i am that oberon that suddenly shows up in a squad. i love my nature boy so much
Broberons unite, we will get a buff someday :D
gauss main here, almost made me cry here seing my boi be the first s tier
I like using Ivara, I ado agree with her rating here though, she ain't always the best option, but its real fun going invis and using Reave (Instead of Navigation) and fly around the map, there is also her crit line setup that makes her a warframe I enjoy coming back to over and over again.
I might get more used doing the steel path missions later on if I make a better kit for her modding.
8:10, actually most of the people got into warframe because of the animations and playstyle. Shiny animations play a big part in bringing in new players, it's also aesthetic. They should add more animations to the game, it gives a more pleasant vibe when grinding.