This 3D Printed Airless Basketball Actually Works?!
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We ended up 3D printing the popular airless basketball with flexible PLA - and it bounces really well! It took a lot of filament and a lot of time to print, but overall it was worth it. We have many more 3D printing videos coming out, so be sure to subscribe to the channel so you don’t miss out on any future videos! Also, if you want to support the channel and have commercial licenses for our files, please consider joining our Patreon: / makeitlab
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Link to STL file for the airless basketball: www.thingiverse.com/thing:604...
Link to the white flexible PLA filament used in the video: www.amazon.com/dp/B09TG6VF8R?...
Printer settings/info:
Printer: Bambu Lab P1S
Temperature: 220C
Speed: 200 mm/s
Walls: 3 (I would probably use more walls)
Infill: 15% gyroid infill (I would probably go higher %)
Support settings: I had to block supports at the top and paint them on the bottom using Bambu Studio, then I used normal (manual) supports.
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Would you use this ball?
i use today on my training basketball on flex pla and it crack
@@yoanndavid2725 oh yikes, so that was the first day using it?
Yes check my youtube i just post a vidéo of bounce with my kids just before taking it for my training
@@yoanndavid2725 just watched, it looks like it was bouncing well! Do you have a 3d pen? I bet you could patch the crack together with one. I am going to print one in Overture Super PLA+ to see if it will hold up better
My best bet IS fiberflex 40d or peba s, all pla type will break if u use normal, on vidéo WE just small bounce it , on a normal training u trow the ball at 4 meter height
Wow that looks really good! Ordered the flexible pla! Thanks
Thanks! Hope it prints well for you
@@makeitlabchannel how did you do the support? Manuallly colored where you want it?
@@GeneralHugo1 yes I blocked the supports at the top and painted them on the bottom, but I would probably try something other than organic tree supports next time because I had to repair the bottom a bit
Hey man! Did you do your supports in the flexi pla? Also, what settings did you use! :) great video
Hey there, yes also did the supports in flexi PLA, bit of a pain to remove. Settings I used was 0.2 layer height, 200 mm/s, 3 walls, 15% gyroid infill, and only supports on the bottom of the ball. Thanks!
Loving the mismatched Puma socks from Costco. You are truly my spirit animal.
This made my day 😂
Hey what filament, model and settings did you use to print this and what is the best filament to use to print he airless basketball, it would be helpful and if you reply thanks
Good job. Not bad at all and still looks pretty decent, i reckon.
Much appreciated!
it free bounces the same but when you dripple it doesn't bounce back with the same froce as a std ball. really impressive effort
Yeah it doesn't bounce 100% of a normal ball but it bounces well. Definitely fun to play with
What would happen is you thickened the balls wall I know if you pushed it outwards it would ruin the diameter of the ball but what would happen if you did it inwards? Also what was the infill?
I bet it would make it stronger, which would probably help it bounce too. I used 15% gyroid infill
Cool, but with it make it through the netting in a hoop?
It goes through the one I have just like a normal ball, might have to take it to an actual court and try it there
The fact that you're able to make one that bounces and all of the other 3D printing channels that are much bigger than you have come out with videos that don't bounce makes me wonder if they have been approached by Wilson to make videos trying to discourage people from making their own. I figured it would be pretty easy to make one of these if you just had the right material/model/print settings. There's really no reason that this ball should cost $2500.
Interesting, you might be on to something!
What filament did you use?
I used flexible PLA, there is a link to the filament I used in the video description. Actually printed very similar to regular PLA.
Hello, I was wondering if you could please share the exact settings that you use for the flexible Pla filament because I’ve tried printing it on my printer and I can’t get it going
Sure I can do that, but first, what printer are you using?
@@makeitlabchannel I was going to try it on my A1 mini first but I have a bamboo lab x1c and a p1ps
@@landynmiller6750 oh nice, well the settings I used were mostly default but they were 0.2 height, 220C, 200 mm/s, 3 walls, 15% gyroid infill, and organic tree supports but only on the bottom (had to paint them on bottom and block them on top). I would try different supports though cause I had to repair the bottom a bit.
@@makeitlabchannel ok thank you sm I’m going to try it out
@@landynmiller6750 good luck!
What material did you make it out of?
Made it out of flex PLA, there is a link to it in the description. It was actually pretty easy to work with
What type of filament was used?
We used flex PLA, there is a link to it in the description. It printed very similar to PLA too which is nice.
How do you set up the supports without supporting everything.
I used Bambu studio to block the supports at the top and paint the supports on the bottom.
Yo! how did you get the supports to be like that, like what settings in bambu
I had to use the "paint supports" option, and I had to block the supports on the top and paint the support area on the bottom. The. I just picked organic tree support and the studio did the rest 😁
@@makeitlabchannel gotcha! I can't get the paint to not go through the holes
@@justinpenalva4733 by using the toggle bar you can adjust how much of the ball you can view/paint. I adjusted the view and toggled it down so all I could see was the area on the bottom of the ball, then I used the "fill" where I could. If you are still having trouble I could probably send you a 3mf
@@makeitlabchannel thanks man! I'll let you know
@@makeitlabchannel I would appreciate it if you could send it to me, what way works for you
It would bounce better with a less flexible material.
Try printing in a nylon based filament.
The geometry of the ball will give it the pliability it requires but stiff materials bounce best.
Good call. I have some super PLA+ coming in tomorrow and will try that/compare, that might perform better than the flex PLA at least
@@makeitlabchannelis it overture super pla+ ?
@@keremssenturk it is actually flexible PLA, but I have Overture super PLA+ coming in today to try that too
@@makeitlabchannel I followed your channel to see the results.
@@keremssenturk great!
I want an airless dodgeball now.
I'm sure someone will make one soon lol
What tpu you use 95a?
Actually used flexible PLA: www.amazon.com/dp/B09TG6VF8R?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
do you thing higher infill will make it bounce and also how is the durability at 15%
Yes I think higher infill could help it bounce better and be more durable, and it has already cracked after a couple days of use 🙁 I am currently printing one out of Overture Super PLA+ to see how that bounces/holds up. Will post an update if it goes well
I made one with 80% infill it bounces like a deflated ball but bounces good at low height
@@makosmakes did you use 3 walls too? Was wondering what it would be like at high % infill so thanks for trying!
@@makeitlabchannel no i used 16 walls, i thought because of the size it would need more based on a mini tennis ball i printed with the same design that bounced good but 16 walls and 80% infill i mean at least it bounces good when bounced low lol
@@makosmakes oh nice lol, well hopefully it will be extra durable too!
Just printed this using same STL, same fillament, and the settings that were on the website for the fillament, but it cracked instanly. what temps did you print with?
Oh dang, sorry to hear that. It was printed using a Bambu Lab P1S at 220C. How many walls/% infill did you use?
Also, if you have a 3D pen, you might be able to fix the crack that way instead of throwing it out.
@@makeitlabchannel yeah it’s really annoying tbh. I feel like my settings were all wrong. Watched uncle Jessie’s video and his bounced well and only took 23 hours where mine doesn’t and it took 86 hours.. yeah 86. How long did yours take and what were your wall settings?
@@dvcam man I know it is frustrating to have a big print fail, especially after 86 hours! What printer did you use? I printed mine on a Bambu Lab P1S, and I used 3 walls and 15% gyroid infill. Since that printer is so fast, it only took about a day and a half.
@@makeitlabchannel I have the same printer! what support settings did you use? I'm going to reprint with 3 walls and 15% infill. also, did you use the Ataraxia reccomended temperatures or just the basic PLA settings?
Hello i don’t mean to make you type a lot lol but what were your settings when you printed the airless basketball because I printed my own and it would just start to break as soon as I bounced it.
I also used the filament you provided in the description
First let me ask, what printer did you use? I used a Bambu P1S and printed at 220C, 200 mm/s, 3 walls, 15% gyroid infill, and organic tree supports but only on the bottom. I will actually go higher in infill and walls if I print it again. Did you use the same model too?
@@makeitlabchannelI use the any cubic cobra
@@crackedmaster2503 I heard that of you use too many walls it is too rigid and it will crack. Did you do more than 3 or 4 walls?
What does that mean?
dang, and the filament is sooooooooo cheap. Thank you SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH. Makes sense. This needs to be the perfect balance of rigidness and flexibility, so flexible pla makes sense. I'll try. I think that a 20-25 infill would be best
Glad I can help, just to mention it, it is not quite 100% bounce of a real ball, but it does bounce very well. I also think 20-25% infill would work better than the 15% I used. Also, in our other video I sprayed the ball with clear coat and I think it helped with the durability
When the Airless ball from Wish finally arrives
😆
is it lighter that the real ball
It is actually heavier. 3D printed ball was 617 grams (1.36 pounds) and the regular ball was 526 grams (1.16 pounds).
Printer settings or profile for Bambu
Most were default but it was 0.2 layer height, 200 mm/s, 220 C temp, 3 walls, 15% gyroid infill, organic tree supports but only on the bottom
Thank you printed 2 but they never worked hopefully this works
@@Genesis_Network good luck!
How heavy is this ball?
It ended up being 617 grams. Just an FYI, I printed with a double-lattice file using the same flex PLA and got even better bounce results, but the print was trickier and it cracked after some use. It would definitely be worth figuring out a double lattice file instead of the one used in this video 😁
Nice giant pickleball
Haha, might have to try it with pickleball now 😁
@@makeitlabchannelbro gave him a idea💀
what infill
It was 15% gyroid infill
Print time?
It took about a day and a half (43 hours) to print on my Bambu Lab P1S
@@makeitlabchannelthanks :)
Please tell us when it breaks, and after how much use
Yeah I am curious as well - will have to take it out to the court
Update?
@@markkam7920 flex PLA ball cracked after using for about 2 days 🙁 I am printing another and one in Super PLA+ to see which holds up better/bounces better
Does it matter what 3d printer you use
?
@@joaquinolea2596 I think if you use the setting they say on the flex PLA box it should be fine on almost all printers, but the print time and bed size will be the biggest differences. The ball printed in 1 1/2 days on my Bambu P1S, but it would have taken 5 days on my Ender and would not have been full size
can you make crash test this ball
Yep I am printing another one along with one from super PLA+ to see how long they last/crash test 🙂
What material did you use to print?
It was flexible PLA, there is a link to it in the description. Actually printed very similar to regular PLA
You removed air from the basketball 😂😂😂
yeah it is easy you just have to vacuum it all out before you dribble 😂
You need to design the model of the ball differently... if it's your model
No it is not our design, but we are currently designing one. What would you change? Make it more of a sphere?
@makeitlabchannel I believe unbox therapy had detail video about the original ball. There is a detail on the inside structure. I believe the design is much more complex than the one you are using.
@@notaste6002 Will check it out, thanks!
@@makeitlabchannel I personally love the round lumps on the ball. Make it double lattice. An idea would be this: The file you used was only a 7mm difference between inner diameter and outer diameter. That means its pretty thin. Make it more like 12mm thick with like 6-7mm hole through the parts that are in between the hexagons in order to create a double lattice. never leave a single part of the ball less wide, long, or tall than about 6mm to ensure large area of strength. also, you could try using the lines that go around the ball as a guide to glue on overature super pla+ printed support. That way mostly everything still bends, but has a lesser chance of breaking. I am also going to attempt to 3d model one.
That real basketball is not inflated enough by any means
Yes, in the captions of the video I say that the real one needs to be inflated and that it is only about 85% of a real ball 🙂
@@makeitlabchannel i missed that i apologize
@@JayEm16 no worries, really I should have had bigger text in the video or just have pumped up the ball but I didn't have a pump 😆
Doesn’t look like it works properly. Bounces weaker. The technology that went into the Wilson 3D printed ball is way more sophisticated and you can tell by the videos it bounces just like a regular ball.
I agree with you that it isn't 100% like a normal ball, and yes there is no way my little printer can compete with the Wilson design and technology. I guess "works" is subjective - just excited that it was closer compared to others I have seen on CZcams.
@@makeitlabchannel still a good job. The criticism is for inspiration… it’s impressive non the less. But as you said, someone couldn’t just simply copy Wilson on this one to have a cheaper homemade version. Which would be awesome as theirs is just ridiculously expensive even with the technology that went into it.
@@mrcsrkcrz thanks! Yeah I wonder how expensive it would be to recreate theirs/work just like a real ball, or you can just buy one of theirs for $2500 😁
Maybe experiment with more outer layers, or higher infill %?
@@Pics2FlicksDennis yeah will have to experiment with that too, along with the overall model design used as well. Lots to mess with!