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Detroit Box Alarm Engine 34 Stretching on 18th and Hancock Street
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2023
- On May 17th, 2023, A box alarm assignment was struck for a dwelling fire. Squad upon arrival reported a dwelling going, and Engine 34 stretched. Engine's 39 and 17 dumped their monitor on the fire. Crews were held to a defensive stance due to the structural integrity of the building.
4671 18th Street, Detroit, Michigan
Engine 17, 34, 39, Ladder 20, Squad 4, Chief 5, Chief 7.
Copyright 2023 Brad Noyes Photo 39 Fire and Rail Photography
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I like how Detroit doesn't seem to hesitate to employ a Master Stream at the outset of arrival at a lot of these incidents. It seems to help avoid extension to adjacent structures for sure. Great coverage. Got a portable radio scanner? Audio would be a great addition.
Love seeing the deck gun used for initial knockdown.
Wow!! Nice job with the deck gun!!
How many hours would your department have been on this scene? Detroit…….50 minutes
Its incredible how many departments cant seem to understand the effectiveness of the monitor and tank water...
What's incredible is how you didn't notice how relatively inefficient & ineffective it was 🤣
The house was a total loss on arrival. It absolutely was a quick and effective use of the monitor and tank.
@@broganjosephmacduffhealy1940
You keep telling yourself that 🤣
Rockin the deck gun...💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Deck gun impressive
Excellent use of the deck gun
Are you serious?...that discharge directed to the SECOND floor was a waste of water. Guess what happens with any bonfire if you wet only the superior part...
That stream directed at the first floor has been 400% more useful. The vapor had to suffocate the flames on the 2nd floor helping the control.
Worst of all, the FIRST engine must be made this, stopping 45° in front of a house corner, this way having access to two sides with one position.
Love the deck gun. So awesome...until it runs out of juice.
Actually, it was out of judgment 😁...it must be trained to the first floor.
LOL @ the siren at 2:38
Those homes are so close together 😢
It's to maximize housing, it's the effect of overpopulation
They did a great job saving the other building. Was that a vacant structure that went up in flames?
The best exposure protection it´s putting the fire out ASAP. But they lack training in deck gun use. The discharge must be from the bottom up. What they do was a waste of precious tank water.
Good job by the on-scene command to adopt the "wait and see WTF we got here" on the front porch, instead of running into a death trap on a bullshit vacant structure. EVERYBODY GOES HOME!
There was no tactics and strategy planning going on on the porch. They were waiting for water...for 3 1/2 minutes...unacceptable! Detroit swears by it, but the "Detroit Bundle" reverse lay shit they do doesn't work. They are lucky most of these fires are in abandoned structures. Waiting for 3 1/2 minutes for water before going in to effect a rescue is pathetic.
What took the FEO on 34 so long to get water, have to find a hydrant that was in service?
Hello, that is very possible. Detroit always does a reverse lay, and so they need a hydrant before they can send water. They do carry 500 gallons on the engine typically.
THAT IS HOW YOU USE A DECK GUN !!!!
It´s how NOT to use a deck gun!!!. Directed at the 2nd floor was a waste of resources.
It must be directed to the first floor, this way you put out the fire from the bottom up...ANY firefighter must know this.
...to show how relatively inefficient & ineffective they are on fires like this 🤣
primary search would only reveal remains if it was even done, fire conditions in the fire building were unsurvivable and structural integrity dictates a defensive attack at the outset. Textbook approach to firefight.
The Detroit 3" reverse lay is such a slow and inefficient process. I really do not understand why they stick to it. I was glad to see the second engine deploy their deck gun though
Third
You do not understand because you do not know anything about firefighting
It actually works really well...........when it doesn't take the Engineer forever to catch a hydrant and get water flowing.
First off they’ve been doing it this way for years secondly in Detroit a lot of the fire hydrants don’t work so instead of laying from a hydrant to the house and possibly taking a chance that hydrant doesn’t work they do reverse and go looking for a working hydrant this is Detroit not LA They have no money
I'll never understand why these houses are built so close together?
In its heyday every inch of property in the city was extremely valuable. These neighborhoods were beautiful & thrived.
Drop the pike pole and use two hands. Smh.
Strange fire fighting without water.
5:42 water is being applied camera view not show all actions being taken. I can HEAR water being applied
Did you stop watching after 30 seconds? They had 3 lines going in the house.
@@Og-Judy Before that
Remember this is Detroit. Probably had to search for a working hydrant
very strange no water on fire!
What are you talking about? There was a truck and 3 lines on the house.
Detroit is always on fire all day every day. October 30th is always the worst.
What does dump their monitor on the fire mean
It means they used up all the onboard water the engine carries
Monitor is also known as a water cannon (in this case used as a deck gun). Dumping the monitor means emptying the vehicle's water tank on a fire using the deck gun (monitors can also be portable nozzles that are removed from the vehicle for deployment closer to the fire or used as a vehicle mounted device).
A DECK GUN MOUNTED A WATER TANKER SO IT CAN MOVE AROUND INDEPENDTLY AND HIT SPOT FIRES
12 firefighters standing around with hooks in their hand, maybe a couple of them can grab a hose and start applying water.
They are on deck dummy
Maybe, no water supply yet or compromised.. those guys are working with what they got at the moment.
If only those hooks could spray water. There's always a bunch of them around the fire.
this is Engine 51! lay 2 duals!!!
Why do the Engines not bring a water supply with them?
What are they supposed to do? Carry a fire hydrant with them? Most pumpers have between 1000-2000 gallons which is emptied within minutes.
The third engine did and actually put water on the fire and knocked it down
Too many people walking around with irons and not enough water 💧
@@FloridaCatholicGuy Exactly, Detroit carries 500 gallons.
In Boston, the 500 gallons you referred to on the pump is called a booster line which has about 750 gallons of water
They often use this for car fires, dumpster fires and for a first line in to a burning structure to check for occupants while the pump operator connects to a hydrant
5 1/2 minutes into this fire before they had a charged 2 1/2 line throwing water onto the fire. Did any of you noticed this?