Line for occupied house on left 1 3/4, but the line for the fully involved has to be 2 1/2!! You must knock down the main body and stop the extension into the exposure, to protect the crews operating in there. Too long to get water, possibly a bad hydrant. In my time if we saw a good hydrant before the fire I had the MPO grab it, because you never know what shape the next one is.
In Europe the truck is almost spraying water before it gets to the fire. In America it seems like they have to get together, discuss the situation and then maybe start spraying water. Hard door to open? Skip the window, just try a little later. Right now I’m looking at 10 guys standing around watching a fire. Oh wait. I forgot they get paid by the hour.
You know, a deck gun assault when they got there would have made a lot of difference. Over 4 and a half minutes to the first charged line. I get we don't need to youtube firefight, but come on.
Before you criticize DFD, consider this. Detroit has 53,000 abandoned homes thanks to the 2008 housing debacle and 2012 DFD budget cuts. Detroit has not only abandoned homes but entire abandoned neighborhoods (include my old one). These buildings were totaled on arrival and there were no exposures. If DFD puts them out they still must be town down by the city (and they could sit there for years before that happens) - at even more cost. Detroit should be glad they still have a fire department. Lots of blame to go around here. But none of it belongs to the DFD.
Aren't there arson fires every night in Detroit? These houses look abandoned ( primary has pallet for front stairs and exposure has none) which probably explains the non-urgency ?
About 20 years ago I rode a LOT of shifts ( training) with E31 S4 in Detroit. Back then I asked why they aggressively went interior on these abandoned dwellings instead of letting them burn down. I git SCHOOLED at that point that it " is NOT our job to let them burn, it's our job to put them out". Since then though, I guess the city has changed ordinances to let them burn down and then it's a cheap, quick clean up of the lot, and it eliminates another drug house. Seeing how these guys responded to this Box Alarm, that appears to be exactly what the plan was..........to let them burn down. When I was there, it was standard practice for the first due engine to dump the monitor whole we were stretching, then the FEO would go catch the hydrant, and the 2nd Engine due would set up in front of the house.
Thank You firefighters, you did a great job!!!!!
My favorite line from a firefighter waiting for water: “Where the f&%k is the f$#%ing water?” I could feel his frustration.
Where's the water that's embarrassing.,🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I want whatever deadbolt is on the house on the left. LEGIT.
You can tell these guys are in no hurry . Seems the house on the left coulda been saved but they watched it burn
Just another day proving that deck guns are...just truck bling.
I know that Detroit is expert at reverse laying to a hydrant, but, this was a tank water job from the start.
Deck gun would definitely have made a huge difference
Deck gun, Deck gun Deck gun.
As a former fire captain, I feel for Detroit firefighters doing the best they can with little or no funding.
Line for occupied house on left 1 3/4, but the line for the fully involved has to be 2 1/2!! You must knock down the main body and stop the extension into the exposure, to protect the crews operating in there. Too long to get water, possibly a bad hydrant. In my time if we saw a good hydrant before the fire I had the MPO grab it, because you never know what shape the next one is.
In Europe the truck is almost spraying water before it gets to the fire. In America it seems like they have to get together, discuss the situation and then maybe start spraying water. Hard door to open? Skip the window, just try a little later. Right now I’m looking at 10 guys standing around watching a fire. Oh wait. I forgot they get paid by the hour.
Way to get it done,😐if y'all were any slower you would be going backwards
You know, a deck gun assault when they got there would have made a lot of difference. Over 4 and a half minutes to the first charged line. I get we don't need to youtube firefight, but come on.
Before you criticize DFD, consider this. Detroit has 53,000 abandoned homes thanks to the 2008 housing debacle and 2012 DFD budget cuts. Detroit has not only abandoned homes but entire abandoned neighborhoods (include my old one). These buildings were totaled on arrival and there were no exposures. If DFD puts them out they still must be town down by the city (and they could sit there for years before that happens) - at even more cost. Detroit should be glad they still have a fire department. Lots of blame to go around here. But none of it belongs to the DFD.
I find water works very well in the situation like this. Just saying.
When are they going to figure out you don’t stop at the scene of a fire pull all the hose off and drive away. Old school this is crazy.
Definitely agree Deck Gun would have been a good choice then go for the hydrant
Aren't there arson fires every night in Detroit? These houses look abandoned ( primary has pallet for front stairs and exposure has none) which probably explains the non-urgency ?
About 20 years ago I rode a LOT of shifts ( training) with E31 S4 in Detroit. Back then I asked why they aggressively went interior on these abandoned dwellings instead of letting them burn down. I git SCHOOLED at that point that it " is NOT our job to let them burn, it's our job to put them out". Since then though, I guess the city has changed ordinances to let them burn down and then it's a cheap, quick clean up of the lot, and it eliminates another drug house. Seeing how these guys responded to this Box Alarm, that appears to be exactly what the plan was..........to let them burn down. When I was there, it was standard practice for the first due engine to dump the monitor whole we were stretching, then the FEO would go catch the hydrant, and the 2nd Engine due would set up in front of the house.