The Most Powerful Synergies in Commander| The Command Zone 383 | Magic: The Gathering EDH
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Show Notes:
If you want to get the most out of your cards, you’ve got to make sure that they’re working together. This episode, DJ from Jumbo Commander returns to discuss synergies, some of the most powerful tools in Commander. Make sure you know know what they are, how they work, and when you should use them in your deck.
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"The most powerful thing you can do in Magic is just... win the game."
- Jumbo Commander, 2021
What... Is that what your suppose to do :P
His grasp of the obvious is uncanny.
But the coolest thing you can do in MTG is drawing cards.
So, why would you want to win the game, when you can draw cards instead?
"Solemn simalcrum is the most powerful thing you can do in commander" - Sheldon manudo Probably
Just FYI the Sylvan Library work-around works with all draw replacements, another one that can be similarly great is "Underrealm Lich"
I was thinking the same thing
I have this in my muldrotha deck! Hits 2 for 1. Draws 3 and fills my bin
Underealm lich is one of those cards, that you don't realise how good it is until you actually play it. This card has gotten me around and through so much in my Nethroi deck. Getting around Stax, simply not having to pay for a smothering Tithe, etc etc. If you're a graveyard deck, at least give this card a try, it's huge!
I haven’t even started watching this video and I can already tell Sylvan Library + Abundance (or maybe something like it).
Yep, I was thinking the same. That 1 extra Mana gets you great value
I love Command Zone collabs with Jumbo Commander
Agreed. DJ is such a sweetie!
Same! DJ is great 😊
Fo sho
Same! It’s especially sweet when it’s both Jimmy and Josh with DJ-unreal chemistry.
Can’t wait until Josh saying “I told you so” becomes a meme whenever a lethal card is played by an opponent
Saying "I told you so" does not bring anything remotely positive to a game.
@@deadso yeah everything has to be positive :)))) no criticism, that's evil!!!!!!!
@@oORoOFLOo I am critisism, and yes, that's what people tell me "don't say anything unless it's positive". So now that's what I tell Josh, don't be toxic with "I tOlD YOu sO!"
"Synergies aren't quite the same as combos"|
Proceeds to say combo five million times in the episode :P
yeah, i mean they ain´t even talking about synergies imo
all these have been 2-3 card combinations that do something, my understanding of synergies is a whole bunch of cards work in a similair direction and interact with each other, like +1/+1 counter theme, proliferate super friends ect.
Ah yes my favorite CZ hosts, Josh Midoriya and DJ Bakugo...
Ikr! I saw the cover like- “Bakugo?! And Midoriya?! Are these fellow weebs? Or just wanted a cool cover?”
I wish DJ was the 3rd co-host on the command zone
But then we wouldn't have the Jumbo Commander.
I personally would love to see Josh and DJ as a pair for a side podcast or a segment.
@@jamesh3267 They are all rich guys with magic cards lol he filled in for months and did an excellent job
@@jamesh3267 yes Jimmy, Josh, and DJ are all rich people with magic cards.
@@jamesh3267 No I didn't we are literally talking about 3 people lol you were the one who made the mistake.
DJ: would you enjoy Professor Liliana?
Me: ... is that a trick question ... ?
Lol
We all know what he really meant! Nice dodge, Josh!
Seriously love Cassius' deck- if you kept losing on Game knights to Josh most times you just dream of the day you can Narset- hull breacher- wheel Josh and he saw it coming but no one believed him... lol awesome moment!
Yeah I don’t blame him. Cassius has had some rough games here in the past so it was awesome to see him pop off. And he’s obviously become a better player over the last couple of years too.
@@Matisyahuwu he didnt take the chain of vapor bait- its a trap card bc u think u get value but u actually go down a land... cass didn't take the bait, kept the momentum
@@mtleaguegaming7896 the only time the chain of vapor bait is ok, is when you're playing a land deck. Lord Windgrace or the Gitrog Monster
@@fernandostar3507 only if he were using a deck that could have brought lands back like crucible too- but still it was early enough that down 1 land would have put him off his tempo but I see your point-
I'd love to see more of DJ. The chemistry between him and Josh is just incredible.
DJ is great. Jumbo Commander is a great channel.
One might say they have great... SYNERGYYYYYYY
Watch older episodes of the podcast! They hosted it together for a long time
@Pariah I think that was tongue-in-cheek.
@Pariah it was a joke
Man! I love DJs hair!
Jimmy is great and I really enjoy him but man the energy between Josh and DJ is so good! You can tell they both had a ton of fun throughout this episode and regularly hype each other up throughout. I hope DJ returns more often!
their ideas bounce off each other really well
@@ryanduffy5301 Agreed! Both plot-wise and comedically. They pick up off each other's jokes really quickly.
jimmy sometimes feels like josh's yesman while dj doesn't mind debating and stands by his opinion, even tho, it is sometimes annoying i think he is overall more enjoyable thanks to that.
Man I do love the thumbnail game for this channel. Always makes for a good laugh.
Who else was here earlier enough to see the title as CZ383
Same, thats what it's showing for me as well
XD me it was in me notis xd
Me
Yeah it was
Me
I’m surprised there wasn’t mention of Worldslayer. Also, on the level of 1 to Craig, how evil is DJ?
I mean I wanted some inspiration about my group hug deck so I watched his decktec about his group hug deck... It just got out everyones lands from their deck and destroyed all lands... I didnt know how many mass land destruction spells there were until DJ's deck was shown haha. I honestly dont think he is far off Craig when DJ is in the mood for a rough game 😂
"would you enjoy professor Liliana?"
😏😏
So happy to see DJ back on the show !! I looove his energy and personality, I wish we could see him more often :)
That's something I was telling my wife about DJ while watching his channel. He is always hyped up and excited
DJ’s hair is giving me life
It' pronounced "mane".
Possibility Storm also works for the Teferi lockout. Accidentally stumbled I to that one and felt really bad
If you're playing possibility storm you didn't "accidentally" do anything lmao
Kathleen would like to suggest another powerful card design, known as don’t lose
2 alternatives to some entries:
no spells: Solemnity+ decree of silence=Infinite auto counter of every opponents spell.
No permanents: sun titan+ Oblivion stone= fate counter sun titan go boom with stone swing get stone rinse repeat.
Josh: “vaccines are great!”
Me: *cries in Latin America*
I feel you
Cries from Brazil here
Meanwhile here in Norway half the elder population is saying no to the vaccines this week bacause it is Easter. :/
Look up birth control testing in puerto rico. Early access isn't always a good thing.
@@stul0031 and then you get hit with the "you can't do shit unless you have your vaccine card bullshit" on top of that.
How dare they mention Nev's Disk Indestructible combo and not mention combining it with Mycosynth Lattice to literally blow up everyone else's lands and essentially lock the table out of the game completely.
Because that's EEEEEeeeeeevil synergy.
I personally like Teferi's protection in response to my own nukes. It and Armageddon are best friends.
Calm down Satan
@@MtGArtandArtifice So is knowledge pool lock tbf
Josh: "Karn's plus one literally doesn't work in commander."
Sydri players: *sleeves up Ugin's Nexus with malicious intent*
DJ has the most soothing voice
It's the opposite of Ashlyn. Her voice is terrible.
Command Zone: you do cast the first spell that goes into the knowledge pool. You should should make a disclaimer.
This synergy works when you lock someone out with a card like curse of exhaustion.
Karns -2 ability actually works really well with the new Lorehold commander who exiles artifacts from the graveyard to double them up.
I've never been here before the actual title!
Same I thought I was seeing things at first
Just got here and I see the proper title :( . Damnit. Hopefully next time!
I had a mass land destruction happen last weekend. One player was able to search my library (I'm playing a Windgrace deck btw) and played Reshape the Earth for free. He had 15 lands at this point, which was like turn 5. On my turn I cycled Decree of Annihilation, because he forced my hand. However, my wife played Heroic Intervention and it was such a fantastic play. I was able to recover somewhat quicker than most with my lands matters deck. The other two players were not so lucky. My wife on the other hand took the game easily at that point. Nobody could ever catch up. It was so fun. Haha!
Only real ones remember the original title
CZ83Z or something lol
@I am a Cat CZ383
I’m gutted CZ383 just had such a ring to it 😂
I'm glad they renamed the Snyder cut of CZ383. It helps differentiate the two.
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@52:20 Not to nitpick but Karn's -2 makes you also search from Exile. Which can be nice to gat back that Lattice that got Returned to Dust ;)
Important note about the knowledge pool teferi lock that many players miss. Knowledge pool says specifically "from your HAND" you can still cast your Commander. Also importantly for decks like Karador, Muldrotha, Kess (there might be others but I can't think of them off of the top of my head) you can cast cards from your graveyard. If you have an answer in your graveyard you have access to it.
So I have an old Revised Nev's Disk I kept from the 90's and put in an EDH deck a couple years ago. I NEVER realized the synergy between it and things like Boros Charm. I'll be trying that out, and enjoying extra salt from my playgroup. Thanks so much.
I'm happy to see DJ back on for another episode!
Hey @The Command Zone
There is another synergy for the Sylvan Library + Abundance and that is Sylvan Library + Teferi's Ageless Insight. You always draw keep 3 cards and can dig 5 deep every turn AND have card selection so you can decide which one you want rather than the randomness of Abundance. But both are pretty great!
Great information to help us build some synergy in our decks, thank you.
That thumbnail got me hyped for the MtG x My Hero Academia crossover!!
WAIT WHAT. Where can you find out about that?
@@hmmmskwc6018 I was kidding lol. It would be cool though
I really love these episodes with DJ. The best part of this episode was the one with replacement effects for carddraw for drawing more cards. But the rest of the episode reads more like how to break the social contract rather than how to add great synergies to your deck. So just as a little feedback. It would be nice to see more syneries that don't break the social contract :)
DJ!!!! Always a pleasure to see him on a video! He has such awesome chemistry and really fits well with the Command Zone cast.
This episode is definitely my favorite. You guys named off a ton of my favorie synergies.
Great Synergy Suggestion: NOTE this is for any deck with a lot of artifacts AND/OR has a lot of artifact-based ramp: Winter Orb and Clock of Omens. You can break parity with your rocks with the Winter Orb, use your artifacts that don't naturally tap to untap rocks and utility artifacts with the Clock...but when you combine them and tap the Winter Orb on the end step of the player right before you... You're off to the races.
zurs weirding in a muldrotha deck, its soooo good
YAY DJ IS BACK. Great editing. Good synergy.
A few days ago "Un actually" also uploaded a video with its production name and it was super long and complex, including the resolution and something about the editing, however these guys use names like CZ383... it's just funny to see the contrast on the different methodologies for file managing
Worth noting: Karn the Great Creator's -2 works really well with the new Boros Commander deck. Exile an artifact for 2 token copies, then -2 and put the original in your hand.
I play Muldrotha and I have many times done the Sylvan Library trick, but with Underrealm Lich instead of Abundance ─ that's essentially draw 9 per turn. Feels good.
Once I had an opponent that locked the tables with an artifact deck using the nev disk trick. All other opponents scooped it up, but I had a stiffle effect when I needed it and still won the game with balthor the defiled. That felt pretty awesome.
Also, Bloodchief Ascension, Zur's Weirding, and Abundance are all Black Blue and Green permanents - and you know what THAT means...
(MULDROTHA INTENSIFIES)
24:00
It's an old combo sir, but it checks out.
(insert Imperial officer talking to Vader in ep6)
I'm glad you guys made this video. I got some real good sleep because of it.
Thank you.
👍👍👍
Lol I used to have a whole deck around maralen back in the day. Great combos.
For the Disk Synergy: Throw in a Mycosynth lattice to prevent the enemy from getting rid of your Indestructible by destroying lands.
Aye, this be a mean one that my play group tends to forget about. I have also swiped someone's entire board with hellkite tyrant combined with thos combo before nuking the board. Probably one of the coolest moments I have ever had with my Daretti deck.
@@BjornStellar I have Hellkite, Lattice, Darksteel Forge, Disk, Worldbreaker, Vandablast and some more in my Magda Deck. Nothing better than tutoring all that stuff out
That Raycon ad was so good!!!
Love the show. Always nice to see DJ!
One of my favourites: Enchanted evening + auratog + aura thief, this is in my tuvasa enchantress. On top of that we also use Enchanted evening + calming verse because being a monster is fun
I have Zur’s Weirding in my Muldrotha deck! Muldrotha let’s me pull the things my opponents put in my graveyard back out so it doesn’t affect me as much. It’s also a way for me to check my opponents hands for counters before playing my combo out. Love this card!
im so glad to see dj back. very glad we will see more of him. hope this means jimmy has a new acting project, he is a very good actor.
Enchanted Evening + Calming Verse
DJ! So great to see him back, love yalls chemistry
Really liked this ep! I thought you guys would have mentioned discard strategies though! Definitely a tough synergy to deal with in archtypes like; Tergrid,Tinybones, or Nicol Bolas the Ravager! Great job as always tho!!
My favorite synergy is one that I heavily use in my Lord Windgrace and Gitrog decks and that is Splendid Reclamation for mass return or Crucible of Lands (and friends) for targeted return of lands that hit the graveyard. I've seen you Josh push this recently with Fetch lands, but there are ways to take this concept even further by playing Squandered Resources and Rain of Filth essentially doubling your mana, Constant Mists to blank everyone's combat step, Overlaid Terrain becomes the most efficient mana doubler. There's a lot of really strong effects you can get out of these synergies that I find most people aren't giving proper consideration to.
funny interaction is when hullbreacher and Narset, Parter of Veils/Spirit of the Labyrinth are on the battlefield is that your opponent just creates one treasure instead of 7 when a Wheel happens
On the topic of Teferi + things to force your opponents to cast something else instead, Possibility Storm works with them as well.
Also, if you have the Knowledge Pool but no Teferi, there are a number of cards that limit the number of spells people can play per turn, so they cast the first spell but can't cast the second because they can only play one per turn.
I love DJ!!! So happy to see him back :)
DJ is so great! He brings such a great energy
DJ’s chuckin paper again! What a delight! Always great to see him on Command Zone. When’s his next appearance on Game Knights??
One of my favorite rules for tournament play is that, if you Brainstorm during your upkeep and have Sylvan Library, you are required to call a judge to look at your hand while you do this.
I actually played in a Commander game once where one of my opponents cast Armageddon while I had both Smothering Tithe and Anointed Procession on the battlefield doubling my Treasure token output, it was great!
So for the second set of synergies (TeferiPool) you can also use Possibility Storm if you happen to be in red. Additionally, if you have a method of breaking parity on-board, such as a planeswalker, a Rule of Law effect works with both Pool and P. Storm.
fun little combo/synergy: ominous seas and greater good
Oooooh. You! I like you!
So happy to see another episode with DJ, I love these twos chemistry! DJs reaction to the Opposition Agent combo is why he is great on Command Zone. Love the passion!!
The Command Zone with DJ gives me the warms and fuzzies.
there's also "you can't have turns". Cast mindslaver, cast lethal vapors. Gain control of target player's turn. during their turn, have them activate the ability of lethal vapors (skip your next turn: destroy lethal vapors). In response, have that opponent activate the ability another 10,000 times. They never get another turn again.
4:19 skip the lip
M.V.P. right here.
I inherited my friend's Elesh Norn deck when he moved away (nobody to play physical mtg anymore. He had Urborg in his deck with Kormus Bell, which is extra steps for wiping all lands via Elesh Norn in mono white.
Great to see Dj back at in The Command Zone again!
My Muldrotha Deck has both Narset and Hullbreacher in there. No wheels though, but they're more in there to punish card draw.
The deck in general functions by slowly grinding the opponent down.
Probably obvious to say, but the Sylvan Library trick works with any draw replacement effect. Personal favorite would have to be Underrealm Lich(4BG), replace draw with "look at top 3 cards, put 1 in hand, put 2 in grave" can also pay 4 life to give it indestructible. Works amazing in anything with grave synergies like Gitrog Monster aswell...
also tiny upside for the draw replacement effects, not that it hardly ever comes up, but it does make you immune to mill death since you are no longer able to "draw" when you have no cards remaining XD
Bloodchief Ascension also synergizes with Mindcrank. And if you hit them for any damage, once Bloodchief is 'online', then so long as you don't choose to have them NOT mill, they will either die from damage, or mill out.
4:19 for beginning of topic
My favorite one sided Armageddon is when I have Goblin Sharpshooter and Living Plane in play together. I have only done it three times, because I do not tutor for spells. When I do, we always shuffle because no one can recover.
I play knowledge pool in one of my phelddagrif decks, and its actually pretty fun cause it causes everyone to work together, it's honestly a great group hug card
The Maralen/Opposition agent combo should be called "I drink YOUR milkshake! I DRINK IT UP!"
The Maralen / OP Agent lock doesn't only let you tutor their decks, also stops your opponents from drawing cards. Forever. Once this lock hits the board, your opponents can only stop it with the cards they have in hand right now. And every turn, you get to steal more protection for it.
There's a reason it's a pretty powerful lock in competitive stax decks, I run it in my Tayam list.
"To the listeners" answer: Necroptence and Venser's Journal, in a Karlov deck. Also, military shore leave and lots of money to freely spend on cards, are a good life synergy that can lead players to have more deck test time and the access to that nearly perfect mana base. One more, Blackblade Reforged and Balath the red Goad commander with the white background that makes Balath get 2 +1/+1 counters each turn. All opponents must attack, but not you.
I love the zur's weirding combo, its one of the weirdest synergies, but I love things like this. I built an entire deck based around it helped by tasigur. Its a really strong one, and I love playing it but I dont get to play it often because its mean.
First off great video, loved the discussion and your guy's back and forth was great. Now I'm not sure it's a "synergy" and not a "combo" but based on the description you gave I'm surprised Jodah/fist of suns and morophon wasn't on the list? It's essentially 1/2 an omniscience in the command zone for tribal themes and that's a pretty cool synergy that won't necessarily win the game on the spot but it's pretty great value.
I don’t want to sound rude. I do enjoy josh and jimmy, but having additional views and play styles is always helpful for new ideas. I hope you guys continue to bring others onto the show.
Considering how much Josh loves Vedalken Orrery I'm surprised there was no mention of it + Seedborn Muse. Both good on their own, and when together you get a build-your-own Prophet of Kruphix!
Great to see DJ in this episode.
Necropotence + Bola's Citadel to outvalue opponents :)
Plus the storm artifact to gain life I'm having a dumb moment lol I can't remember the name
@@williamcarswell3012 aether reservoir... that is just crazy! XD
@@jimalabi3225 that's the word thank you
You don’t even need indestructible to do a one sided board wipe, just threshold. I had a janky one sided board wipe in my first EDH deck from 2009. Enchanted Evening and Cleansing Meditation. My friend also used the Lattice, Forge, Disk lock.
Enchanted Evening makes everything into an enchantment and Cleansing Meditation is a sorcery that destroys all enchantments, but if you have threshold, you return all permanents you controlled that we’re destroyed by Cleansing Meditation.
42:25 I was hoping this would have led into any of the Weirds from ravnica
54:01 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth with Kormus bell is another to animate all lands, but possible in any deck
36:06 pair Maralen with Orb of L'Chethul. Adding op agent is a bonus. This has happened to my table and no one had any removals lol
love using rooftop storm, sidisi and havengul lich with a sacrifice engine.
Love DJ!
Zur's weirding in my Muldrotha sounds great :) Thx guys
I haven't gotten there yet, but I run Zur's Weirding in my cEDH Muldrotha and it's definitely a win condition... just don't play it if you're not close to a dominating position or else you're getting targeted hard.
Also, Zur's Weirding opens you up to the Abundance trick form earlier in the episode. If you have dredge cards, Underrealm Lich, etc, you can replace your draw with that instead of Zur's Weirding's effect to mill yourself and not have to worry since you're playing Muldy.
HEY DJ!
hope to see you in another game knights/extra turns episode
oh teh triple draw combo there's another card you can do it with its call "Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar" it does the same thing as abundance but it replaces the draws with "Anticipate" for every single draw
Alesha + Fiend Hunter + Sac Outlet lets you pay 2 mana every combat to exile a creature
Very important thing that should be addressed in the Teferi Pool combo, ESPECIALLY by a Commander channel, is that Commanders aren't stopped by it. I've had a net decker in my area just blindly play the comco and think the game was over, and it took quite some time to explain why "No, you didn't just autowin with two cards, there's a reason neither is banned". Of course, abilities can also be played.
Great content as usual and great recommendation - just binged the Champions