Alfa Romeo Junior - Best handling Alfa in years and it's an EV ! | FIRST DRIVE | 4K
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- I have finally driven the all new Alfa Romeo Junior. Could the Alfa Romeo Junior be the best handling Alfa Romeo in year even when it is an EV ? I was invited to the Balocco Proving Grounds to put the new 280hp all electric sports crossover through its paces. The result were very dramatic.
Click here to watch my studio walk-around from earlier this year...
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Video Contents
00:00 - Welcome to Balocco
01:12 - Great styling but will it drive like an Alfa ?
02:33 - That rear end !
04:18 - B Road Handling
08:38 - Driving Position
10:15 - The Shared Platform Problem !
11:18 - Impressive on a Race Track !
14:45 - Final Thoughts
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Y'know what Pete, didn't hear any binging or bonging from the dash. Heaven.
The studio shoot didn't do it justice - looks even better in the sun :) I think we can all breath a collective sigh of relief that it drives like an Alfa :) Thanks for the review.
It is so much better out in the wild 👌
Thank you for your impressions. The driving dynamics of the Junior Veloce really seem to be excellent. What I liked best was that you were so happy to drive this car on the track.
I sure was. So much that I went for another drive without my cameras after I had finished filming…just for fun 👍
I've owned 6 Alfa, absolutely love the brand, and without any doubt I'll be putting a deposit down on a Junior when they get here in Ireland later this year. This makes me hugely excited for the brands future
You will love it 👍
ur kidding
do you currently own a Guilia or Stelvio?
Excellent review. The Alfa Romeo Junior Veloce is better than I thought.
Thanks! 👍
Takes me back to when the Alfasud was introduced. People were anti because it wasn't made in Milan and was front wheel drive. All they needed to do was drive it... Set the ground rules for all hot hatches that followed. I just hope that with the influence of you and others that the Junior is successful.
@@stevedymoke My thoughts too. I remember the Alfa cognoscenti poopooing the Sud because of those reasons you mentioned. You’ll still get the same types of nay-sayers today but to me this is the modern incarnation of the ‘Sud in EV form.
Owned a Sud quadrifoglio 105 hp from 1984 till 1991, the last version. Amazing car that totally fell apart rustwise, but I’ve owned many Alfa’s since then, currently since seven years a 147, ‘cause they have a quality of driving you do not find anywhere else. They can park this Junior in front of my house💪
I'm 57 and love my cars and spend way too much on them but they give me joy. I always said that I wouldn't get an EV and I have no immediate plans to but I'm not against them full stop, I just haven't seen one that I would really like...Until now. Really good review, thank you.
Great to hear 👍
That was brilliant, you were 10/10th driving there, can't wait til you try to convince Joe on the podcast how good an EV it is that will be fun to listen to
I’ll give it a go this Friday 😜😂
After owning an EV for 3 years, there's no turning back as far as I'm concerned.
I've owned 3 Alfas in the 80's and loved them! My fave car will always be the Sud ti 🍀.
This Alfa shows that EV's are just at the beginning of their evolution, and with all of the upcoming battery and motor technologies, the cars in a few years time will be awesome.
And not forgetting, very expensive to own.
I have a Hyundai Kona EV. 275 miles range on paper but goes down SIGNIFICANTLY when the AC or heat or speed is above 75 mph. I think EV is the way forward, but I will absolutely not buy one outright. EVs should only be leased. Charging is still an issue due to time and available facilities. I have 4 other Alfas (75 V6, 156 V6, Stelvio Q4 and 4C) and these cars are needed to keep me sane on the weekend. I would go insane with just EVs.
@@155stw Great take…I’m in same boat and lucky to have EVs as company cars that are fully warranted but we’ve had a nightmare with wife’s privately owned i3 battery faults and going back to a Lexus hybrid to mitigate the terrible residual value
I’m also running a 916 GTV for my weekend petrolhead fun
Have a polestar 2 company car, an S2000, 916gtv V6 and a 74 GT junior with upgrades! On the edge of retiring - so will need to replace the polestar this looks just the ticket... Depending on AROC lease deals.
I currently own a Giulia V (best car ever), but the way you describe the junior it takes me back to my days driving the Mito! That little nible asphalt eater was just so much fun to drive. Hope this car gets the recognition among "junior" car enthusiasts it.. seemingly... deserves.
That's fantastic ! I saw all the press tests and everybody seems agree, Alfa Romeo Engineers does a great great job ! we can see the pleasure on your face when you're driving, great test
What an awesome looking and fun driving car!
It really is!
Just fresh from seeing it Birmingham at the roadshow and now watching your video Pete. Seems like the Junior can deliver performance with emotion too. Thanks as always for the great content.
It sure does 👍
Petrol Ped driving it like he stole it!😂
😂😂😂
If you grandfather go drive slower what point test SUV this or how you find stability flat if is good or feel the car need first understand limit be with SUV feeling Play with car or don't buying any car go use taxi 🚖 for safety seriously
@@unexplainedwearenotalone3537 Well said
Looks really nice.I like the front end, especially.Nicely driven too.
Fantastic news. A great review….Now the wait for our local release in Oz.
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Good grief, what is wrong with all these people saying “it’s an ev, I’m not interested”?
I’m no ev-angelist, and have no inclination to go that route in the foreseeable future, but it’s a cracking looking car, and drives like an Alfa.
What more can you want 🤷🏼♂️
Mate it’s a thing on the internet don’t you know 😂😂
People fill their heads with conspiracy nonsense. They need to give their heads a wobble. EVs have been around for over a decade. There are a million + on UK roads. And people are very happy with them.
Including me.
V6
It doesn´t runs low on oil :D
i want an alfa romeo 4 cilinders gas engine.
Great test drive experience video. Like many Alfisti I am torn between my first love ICEs and these new EV kids on the block. But somehow almost all of us will eventually end up in the electric age and Alfa have no choice but to go with the flow. The absolutely crucial detail will be if Alfa can make their EVs feel like something special in the hands. The power plants are going to be from the same mold as many others (it's the only thing that makes economic sense), but the suspension setup and handling will make or break it. It is SO reassuring to see this video, to watch your face and to tell that there is real excitement going on. To me that means that Alfa must have done a great job in keeping some of the essential elements that make the brand what it is. I've seen the car twice in the flesh and whilst a little 'marmitey' it's certainly different enough to be eye catching. What's more the interior is really nice. I can't wait to get my hands on it for a test drive but my local Alfa garage seem to suggest that the lower spec Junior will hit the UK ahead of the Veloce. That is a real shame.
Im much the same here. Ive began to accept the ev future that is coming. Only thing now is can the car manufacturers make sure they retqin that drive and feel were used to. Ped looked like the Junior does exactly that. Welldone Alfa
It’s such fun to throw around 👍
Excellent driving impressions Pete... i grew up loving the Alfasud and enjoyed owning a few in the 1980`s, the Sud was a revelation for front wheel drive cars, i`m no EV fan yet, BUT this could be the car that changes the game for me as the Alfasud did all those years ago..
Thanks Peter 👍
The paint looks gorgeous.
Looking forward to this review, have registered for a pre-order to see if a Junior might be a future choice for my wife commuting to work .... keep the ICE for fun weekends!
Good choice!
Nicely done! It's looking like exactly the new Alfa the brand needs. Looking forward to seeing it with Alfa Romeo UK at our National Alfa Day in August!
It will hopefully open up the brand to new owners too 👍
You and me both!👍🏽
Enjoying the videos on the channel 👍👍👍
Thanks 🙏🏻
Love it Pete looks nice and looks like drives awesome 🎊
Looks fantastic Pedro and what a place to test drive it... Awesome... EV's are here to stay, at least for now. I've recently taken delivery of a new Tesla model 3 and I love it. Especially as it's a company car, 0% BiK and 15,000 miles of free supercharging...
Nice 👍
Great video Pete, I'd buy one of those if I was going full EV, love the looks and sounds a blast to drive!
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Morning PP
Lovely looking car
I think I’d have that grill the same colour as the body if possible!
And what a colour 😍
👍
Fantastic review, I'll conclude with these words: I want one!
Great to hear 👍
Tried to say hello at Silverstone but you were on a mission. Hope you had a good weekend!
Absolutely beautiful…! Can’t wait to get mine …👍 👋
Sounds like Alfa has shown up with the goods. I'm even more looking forward now as to where the all electric Stelvio is going.
In the coming year. Think the Junior is slightly too small for my needs.
Great review.
You and me both!
Every car company needs to do a version of the ionic N fake engine sounds and even fake gears, its so much fun when i tried it.
Nice driving shoes Ped 😅very cool
Thanks! 😃
Looks a really competent car. You were obviously enjoying yourself Pete. I would like to see one in the flesh as it were.
I sure did. Even went for another drive after I had finished filming 😂
A really good review, I've seen you on the track at Goodwood so I know first hand how you drive!
🙏🏻
Love it. Still waiting for R5 tests mind..... end of summer we think?
We couldn't agree more, Pete. What a cool day out that was. What a relief that the car's actually brilliant! See you on the next one.
/ Sam
Hi Sam. What a great day we had. Maybe see you a FoS ?!
Looks lovely. I look forward to your review on UK roads, particularly the hybrid.
I’ll get one as soon as I can 👍
Another great video, Alfa should be able to keep their DNA in spite of platform sharing. Car looks great and they seem to have got the natural feel within their technology. Keep doing it 🎉
Couldn't agree more!
I am an Alfisti and whether we like it or not, we will be having to drive EVs and I'm so happy that they have made it handle.
I'd have one tomorrow, but its too small for our needs at the moment.
Otherwise....
don't worry. there's a bigger stelvio coming.
Sounds brilliant. Range is still a problem as we are in a big country with few charging stations. Cheers and thanks once again. I nearly bought an Alfasud Ti when they were released but my interests were more off road.
Glad to help
Hello Peter. At last some good reactions to your EV test and it is SO good to know this is not Alfa to be excited about. Now I’m using PHEV, I’m already fully convinced on EV in towns and for most journeys…it is just so much better than a petrol or diesel of the standard we have had in recent years…there are plenty of gruff old ICE engines around. I hope the pricing is carefully thought through as well….and I shall be looking to try those seats etc at Goodwood. Well done for this review…a turning point!!!! Let’s hope the rain keeps away for FoS…raincoat weather though nevertheless! I’ll look for you at Porsche! Richard😃😃😃😃😃
The Veloce is around £42k. Goodwood could very well be damp 😬
@@PetrolPed Raincoat and waterproof trousers ready…I just hope it is not 2005 again..the swamp year! ( I notice that the AI work has change “..an Alfa…” to “ not Alfa “…argghh. You understood tough! Good luck this weekend…8/10ths at best on that hill! 😃😃😃😃Richard
EV Ped = When Petrol Ped drives an EV
That looked like an awesome venue to test an Alpha. I wasn't so keen on the rear, too much like an EV6 for me. I am glad it drives well but I think my 2 year affair with EV's are coming to an end soon and back to petrol for a couple of years to see where we are and what the options and infrastructure are like then.
Loving those 4 Spoke Alloys ❤❤❤❤
Me too…super easy to clean 😂
Seriously nice car.
Magic!
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I actually do like the front.
At least in pictures.
I know a lot of people don´t.
But to me it reminds of old Alfas.
I can see hints of the SZ, GTV6, Montreal, 105/115.
But not sure about the rest of the exterior.
I normally don´t like SUVs/Crossovers so I´ll wait until I see it in person.
Let´s hope they put a similar front on coupes and saloons soon.
Good to hear it drives well though.
Nice video.
😮 What a fantastic drive
Looks fabulous in real life can’t believe the pace you were going at just a great drive regardless of being an EV or not
Any idea on uk prices
I’m a big EV fan and as long as it puts a smile on your face and fun to drive that’s always been important to me. My favourite roads are highland B roads and this looks like it would eat them for breakfast and come back for seconds. A second hand one with a hit of depreciation for a year or two could give a excellent option. Our last two MINI’s currently on the drive we’re factory ordered and with the cost of Cars just getting stupid I think the next moves are nearly new with decent money of what it would be list.
Good plan 👍
Love it❤❤❤
Interesting ev Alfa nice test.
Glad you liked it!
Im not getting rid of my Giulia anytime soon, but the half loves her Pug 2008. And it was actually great fun, comfy, rediculous mpg, if a little too soft. But that was its charm.
Looks like time to convince her an upgrade is in order
Indeed 👍
Afternoon mate
Hi 👋
Oh yes. I am an Alfa.fan, it is so.refreshing to.see some passion being built into these next gen vehicles, rather than the bland german and other manufacturers range.
Indeed 👍
Thank you for the video really insightful in regard to driving abilities of this little Alfa. How was the range affected after that beautiful drive in the race track?
Err…range and flat out track driving don’t really go together 😂😂 3 x 20km loops and 3 laps of the track did 75% of the battery 😬😂
Cheers mate
I do love this car 😍
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Thanks for a great review Pete.
As the lucky owner of a 1970 Gt Junior and a Tesla as my daily driver, this could be a contender to replace the Tesla!
Couldn't agree more!
Always loved Alfas , never owned 1.
Have a Diesel Merc GLC , great car .
I will lease my 1st EV
I like suv , too old gor low down cars 😂
1600 kg is an amazing feat ..
Kw per mile ?
If this is too small for me. They arr bringing out a larger 1
Lack of Alfa dealers is an BIG issue , 15 miles , 40 mins . shame they dont have more multi brand dealers
Nice Peugeot!
Fantastic can you get it with a tail hook. Then it would be perfect. I have a Peugeot e208 GT (same platform) just love to ride it in sports mode. But then I can’t have a tail hook. When you live in a house you do. Keep up the good work. Been looking forward to this car release.🤗
Not sure to be honest 🤔
Great review - the LSD is on the back though, and UK will get the 156hp 2WD first - from a decent price for the type of car.
Completely off topic, but did I spy a Heuer Monaco??? Great video btw ;)
You did indeed. A Calibre 11 👍
I love the look of it 👍🏻 would you have one Pete?
Thanks for this great review. I am certainly not their target market and when we change our EV next year I suspect it will be for Renault Scenic e-Tech (or Enyaq or Elroq or Kia EV3 or....lots more choices than 2 years ago!) but maybe I will say "Sod it, the other options are more sensible & have longer range but the Alfa is more fun"
Love the colour matching footwear 😛
😂😂😂
I’m so relieved to hear this drives well. As an Alfisti it’s top of my list to replace a Tesla model 3 Company car as I’m more interested in driving dynamics than outright speed or range.
Couldn't agree more!
I envy you. That must have been Ana amazing experience.
It was a great day for sure 👌
I like the look of this car. The wheels are very nice too. Still not convinced by the EV power train and would be inclined to choose a hybrid, providing it handles as well and the drive is as fun as this one.
Bellisimo. I want one. ❤
Go for it!
I live for a time when manufacturers will figure out that the car handles better when it's not on stilts.
Appreciate the review. I think you are right with Stellantis EV platforms with just over 50kW battery... with that performance, range will be 180miles, not 250. People will drive in ECO mode at 60-65mph.
• After driving EV's for 12 years, I would say for range and performance parity, you need close to 4 miles per Kilowatt of energy to have reduced range anxiety. So let's say 3.5m/kW - and you need to travel at 70mph for 3hrs before a break is needed on a long-distance trip. So, an optimal battery range at 70mph for 3 hours needs at 3.5m/kW = 210 miles*3.5m/kW = 60kW battery (usable range), plus the 10% we don't go below and the 80% ideal charge capacity. So, an extra 30% is needed for the battery, where we are advised to keep the battery healthy.
• So, in theory, for a 3-hour motorway journey at 70mph, with aircon, in-car entertainment, hills, the odd boost of power for overtaking etc, another 18kW is needed, making a standard battery 78kW. (Few cars can maintain 3.5m/kW for 3hrs at 70mph...)
• Of course, this would be a 2.5 tonne car (with lower efficiency). So, 100kW charge? Too slow, if you want continued adoption of these types of vehicles.
• My current car is a Zoe with only 50kW CCS, and a 52kW battery. I have to ignore the safety limits of 80% charging because my range is 220miles. Charging takes over 1 hour 15mins, and I drive on ECO at 60-65 mph for all long journeys.
• No one wants to answer these types of comments except to say, we don't do long distances in the UK all the time... our average journey distance is low. But if you only have one car to cover every occasion, what would you choose? And at what price entry point?
Pete, great video - thanks. How does it compare with the Tonale you drove at that circuit?
Different league. This is engineered to drive well and handle. Can’t say the same for Tonale. They may have tried to make it drive like an Alfa but compared to Junior it is no where close 😢
4 lug wheels, fwd ev with city range built on a converted ice platform? Shame as it's a damn fine looking little sporty shaped cuv!
In 3 years or so it'll be half this price or less and a nice little city use bargain relatively speaking.
Nice review as usual ped appreciate your well reasoned take on the many new evs! Speaking as an American who will never see them.👍🏻😎
Cheers 👍
Jurys still out with me on how the Juniors suspension, wheels and rubber bands deal with our great British roads. Top line performance handling and compliant ride, especially in a heavy, tallish ev don't usually mix.
Very nice looking car. The rear light bar is a little EV6 for me but that's not a criticism 🚘
I do like your desscription of , an 'Internal combustion soundtrack', sounds so much better than 'noisy exhaust'!.
Did you notice that you were not having to play with flappy paddles, an unnecessary third pedal, or a sticky up thing in the middle of the car. A drivers car in which you can concentrate on the essentials, Position, speed and power control. A car that you can drive hard and listen to classical music at the same time, Perfection!
Indeed. You can also get on the power as you hit the apex and it just pulls you out the corner 👍
I feel sorry for him , he's at the helm of laptop not a car
@@logohigh1 Perhaps you could define a 'Car' , what it means to you. Would having 'an internal combustion soundtrack' help? (and flappy levers, a third pedal and a stick to play with).
@@solentbumYou should have control of the car , not the other way round
@@logohigh1 A couple of questions, have you ever driven an Electric car, and did you watch the video and read PPs comment about power and handling.? As a driver you have full control of a BEV, perhaps you should try it.
Hope it sells well 👍
Been waiting for this, thanks Pete. My only reservation is the room in the rear , looks tight for adults. Did you get a chance to have another sit in the back?
Very good amount of room in the back 👍
Bellissima ❤❤❤
Lovely car.. must be a special day when your shoes match the car!
I planned those specially 😜😂
@@PetrolPed lol nice one 👍
Traditional ICE Alfisti here. Great to hear the Junior drives well, and it probably helps people in forgetting the car doesn't look as distinctive and elegant as the past Alfa greats. The wheels still look awful, though.
I think the wheel and tyre combo look ace. Alfa just know how to make great looking wheels. Sorry to hear you think otherwise.
I only owned & used Alfa Romeos in the past 22 years. This car is NOT for Alfisti. Not even designed by an Italian.
Wheels look awful. 4 spoke?? Why not 5? This is not elegant at all.
I hate the scudetto! This is NOT an Alfa Romeo.
Alejandro Mesonero-Romanos go back spain & your expertise better suited for vw seats.
😴
What an awesome review.Makes you wonder what they will do with the 2025 Stelvio. Cant wait to do configurations on this one when it's gonna be available in Slovakia.Seems a great option. I'm planning on buying an SUV in December and I'm between Junior and the new Tiguan. Thoughts? 😀
Both very good. How much do you want an EV ? Tiguan PHEV is very good 👍
@PetrolPed not huge fan of EVs. I'm considering the hybrid 😉. Thanks a lot!
You know what, If we get the hybrid, I may actually get one as my daily driver! I love the fact that it has the instrument binacle cowling, I hate the slabs seen on so many cars these days!👍🏽
It does have a screen but it is small 👍
@@PetrolPed Thats fine, I dont mind secondary screens, but need the shaply Miura like cowling as seen on all Alfas. I do hope that does not mean there is something wrong with me🤔
I’m glad it’s not crap Peter and this goes to prove that EVs don’t have to be soulless and all the same. More of this and the likes of the Ioniq 5 N please at an affordable price and car enthusiasts will eventually be won over.
Not too keen on the name, it’s a shame they had to drop the ‘Milano’ name due to manufacturing country. A belting looking Alfa! It looks like fun, and those seats look sublime!
It has plenty of Alfa history though 👍
Best handling Alfa Romeo in decades?... Aren't you forgetting about the 4C? That thing was on rails and came out in 2014/2015.
i think we all hate EV's until we drive one... i was the same, now i drive an ioniq 5 awd 320hp 600nm and its great, more than quick enough, smooth, responsive like nothing else, im not even half considering going back to a normal petrol car, i will actively try to avoid it, in fact the only thing i can think of getting next is the ioniq 5N just because its batshit crazy. ours offers 320hp 0-60 in under 5 seconds and it costs me £3-4 a week for 280miles, the 5N 640hp and will almost certainly be less than £10 a week to charge at home. I really dont see a downside, its not even dead silent like most imagine they are, theres a whine to it when you get on it that is nice, you can hear the motors spin, i like it.
There are some cars coming now that are starting to bring a bit of the fun of old with them, with this junior, no doubt the renault 5 when they drop a hot one, the ioniq 5N... the future is looking pretty spicy.
Saw one in the flesh yesterday at the local dealership on its official launch! It looked much better than the impression from photo or video. To my surprise, the interior of the low spec 156HP pre-production demo vehicle was meh. The Veloce 280HP will only be available for a test drive probably near the end of the year (December or so according to the sales rep).
Get the impression you like that one, have to say it does look good
I tried to hide my feelings 😂
Great video, Pete, as always!
Maybe (probably) I am too old and conservative, but an electric Alfa is blasphemy, as is an electric Maserati. Mind you, I am not against ev’s, but some manufacturers (and some models) are not suited for ev. Imagine fully electric Ferrari’s, Lamborghini’s, Aston’s and 911’s ….
I wonder how long to recharge it and did you have to queue ??
First things first, much as I dislike small SUV crossover thingy, Milano--I mean Junior is a good-looking thing. I think it's a much more 'Alfa' kind of design than the toe-nail--I mean Tonale. If it drives as good as every media has said (including you, of course), Alfa is on to a winner. Range isn't really a problem if you're using it around town, though I'd probably prefer a hybrid. I'll miss the Giulia QV when it will eventually be discontinued in the future, but if Milano--sorry, Junior is a sign of things to come I wish all the best for Alfa Romeo.
I guess they have managed to keep the weight down to a reasonable figure and that is why it feels quick and sharp in the bends? If so then well done Alfa, people tend to buy Alfas with their heart more than their head, could this possibly be one that satisfies both?
1630kg 👍
@@PetrolPed not bad considering it has a reasonable sized battery in it
Good morning all from Canada! Hope everyone is doing well and having a great week so far.
Wow you get about 😮
@@PetrolPed You do too with all your press trips. 😅
Great looking car from Alpha Romeo. When will Alpha have a AD in the Bristol area ? Nearest Alpha dealer is Swindon. This has been the case for years
Stellantis
Questa auto è tutto fuorchè Alfa Romeo.
From someone that’s owned a Giulia QV for the past 5 years, an all electric Alfa scares the hell out of me 😂
We’ll get ready for the electric Giulia QV because it’s coming 👍
@@PetrolPed I heard rumours of a tri motor 1000bhp setup, not sure there’s any truth to that though. I’m sure whatever they produce will be more than impressive. I’m still very much a petrol head at heart though and so glad I own the original Giulia. Not one I’ll be selling. 💰 🤔
Giulia QV is one of my all time favourite cars 👍
Nice car been to see the mid range at local dealership I'm looking at top of the range but no one knows when they will be in production and delivery time !
Curious to see how this compares to the 600 Abarth
There was one of those testing while we were there. Looked ace 👍