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my right ear enjoyed this
Doug Cassells same
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😄 and I thought "why is that so quiet?"
Wow, Paul is so classy. Talk about an interviewer's dream. Politely answers every question with depth and honesty.
"bring in the broads"
@@fastfootedone Hell yeah
@Mr. Brenman21 It depends...
@@fastfootedone … Said the weird nosy interviewer!
"It's so claaasy innit m8".
Paul IS class. Man I love his intereviews. He's an expert in answers,but still lets you in.
Well, who has been famous longer than Paul McCartney
@@tillingspoon1592 Jesus? (Beatles in joke)
"So this hurts?" with a big smile on her face hearing him talk about unresolved conflicts with his dead best friend.
Rama 3 Yeah,strange. It kind of looks like she got off on it.
Seriously. Wtf.
Paul didn't need Yoko's validation, he was a friend of John's long before Yoko appeared on the scene.
"Bring in the broads!"....silence....Paul continues like he didn't say anything. I do love him.
Love Paul's sincerity. And ART.
Paul handles every interview so well and he always knows how to answer. He’s great with words
I couldn’t even watch this to the end. I cringed every time she interrupted him. Let him talk!!! He didn’t miss a beat though. Stayed calm every time she did it.
Anyone who's ever seen Paul being interviewed know that he never gives everything away. There's always something he won't tell
Ask heather mills she basically put it out there he wasn't the real Paul if there even was one.
Why should he give himself up to everything. No one in the public eye gives EVERYTHING away.
I noticed that too. Ha ha. PID. I guess he has to keep his guard up to some degree his entire life.
John and Paul were in a relationship
Yeah.....he explained that his private side is not on display. His Larry King interview was better than this person.
1:14 is so damn funny when he realises she didn't react at all. I love Paul so much.
i came looking for the comment about that moment
This interviewer is annoying...
she’s digging deeper and deeper with the same question over and over again..
Paul is nice enough to not get twisted but you can tell he’s annoyed😂
And she interrupted him at least once, but I believe a couple of times. I find it annoying not because it's considered rude, but because at one point he was going on about something I found really interesting, and she stopped him in his tracks and we never heard the rest.
@@chrisfrye5730 Right???? I forgot about this until now. Now I’m annoyed again for no reason 😂
@@andrewbrandmusic1971 Sorry dude. I see you commented three years ago.
1:13 I love these little moments (that I've seen in other interviews too) where Paul does these little jokes and they don't land with the interviewer, and it makes it even funnier!!
Edit: Was hard watching the rest of this interview. Good thing that Paul is as patient as he is with some of these people.
It's like a beatles interview where John and Paul keep joking back and forth and being silly, except this time it's just Paul here.
@@lemonysnick5171 Exactly
I just watched this again after a year. "Bring in the broads...what?" Still cracks me up.
Barbara Frum was the kind of conservative Canadian woman who always rubbed me the wrong way. Her children are no better. David Frum, Republican writing hack for George W. and now desperately trying to save his sickening party from a bigger evil, namely Drumpf.
Her daughter wrote very catty annual articles about universities in Canada. She was widely disliked because of that. Trying to be controversial in a 1980's way.
@@gregwalker1913 Come on, this is silly. You're bringing up Trump on a video about Paul McCartney 🤣. I get it, you don't like some folks. It's fine.
I could listen to him for hours. He is such social competent and classy and entertaining in his speech.
This woman is a TERRIBLE interviewer. Paul did an excellent job of describing the complexity of his and John's relationship and how he came to terms with it, knowing John's personality, etc., but after he does so, she goes right back to the original question. She's actually not even listening to a word he's saying. You have to admire Paul's patience here.
Noelle Jordan if she was good she would have done the same , but gracefully.. bad interviewer in my opinion
You are a wonderful person
I agree.....AWFUL. She was not in her element talking to Paul McCartney. Egad....please don't bring back the 80's look. She was trying to talk to him like one of the guys and looked like a fool.
@Another stimulating comment Actually she didn't come close. There are a lot more revealing interviews out there. This is McCarthney 101
@Rick B she only focused on negative things though. Why did he constantly have to defend himself on every question?
Having watched a few interviews with Paul, I have to say I really like the guy. He seems totally down to earth and talks a lot of sense. I'm not so sure about John Lennon - it may be that Lennon was creatively or artistically the stronger of the two, I don't know - but from a personal point of view, I feel that Paul was/is the nicer guy.
Fully agree with you. Paui's contribution to the Beatles was MONUMENTAL, as was John's. Lennon was more insecure, given his tough childhood and was always more likely to criticize the other Beatles to show he was assertive. Paul was, according to most girls, the cutest. Good to know that Yoko told him how much John admired him. We are all very lucky that they were able to collaborate for a decade.
I don't think being pleasant is necessarily a trait of a nice guy. John was more genuine, you just see more of the 'bad' traits because he didn't cover it up.
+whiteshadow59
Paul was and is a nice guy. But Paul was/is not a pushover just because he's polite and has manners. Paul has a spine of steel that he aquired early in his childhood after his mother died. He was only 14. John appeared to be and extrovert, devil may care, tough guy, but it was just an act to hide his insecurities. John seem to latch on to all the father figure types until they died or let him down by not being whatever he thought they needed to be for him. Like Brian Epstein, Magic Alex, Maharishi, Allen Klein and finally Yoko as Mother, hoping to cede responsibility of his life to them. Confused frightened "inner child" was more the real John Lennon. All consuming fame and adulation of Beatlemania, could threaten the sanity of anybody and it took it's toll on the Fab Four. They all came to hate it but Paul and Ringo were the ones who managed live with it better than John and George. Paul learned to deal with it by keeping his core self retained, somewhat at a distance. That helped him keep his sanity. John who already had emotional issues, who always felt that he needed to be "real" and "on" voicing his opinions on everything let fan adulation rush over and nearly drown him. He hated it and the expectations that came with it, but didn't know how to shield himself from it because the rebellious tough guy was an act. That's why Yoko became his shield to hide behind. Lennon lost his creative and artistic muse for 5 years. Paul never did.
+Water Falls I like your psychological interpretation of John and Paul. Wish there were more comments with the analytical insight of yours. However, I think that to some extent Paul also lost creativity from 1970 - 1973 after the Beatles breakup. Partly because he was trying to move away from Beatles material, creating, shaping up, and leading a new band (Wings). Partly because he was dealing with the business side of a new band (and the fact that Beatles assets had been put in receivership, so none of the 4 could get access to them until they - the assets - were legally released). Partly because of fame and celebrity stuff (including the attacks from John). And last but not least, marriage and children (which Paul put first). Just my 2 cents. Thank you.
+Jorge Ponce new band you re kidding..wings was nothing but paul..the other members had no say at all..on payroll...speaking of father figures ..Paul couldn't keep his hands out of George Martin's pants..he knew good tush
Paul is so polite and classy. I love him soooooo much. I hope he lives forever.
He will
Rip paul 1966,,,
Some interviewers are so intrusive and this one is one of them. How he kept his patience on this one is admirable.
It’s as if she wants to devour him.
I love Paul McCartney so much. He's the most awesome person ever to live.
Move over Jesus...
Paul is just very admirable guy. Paul is a Legend through and through.💥
He certainly was ,,,,,,,
Creating great music is no indication that you'll be any good at being interviewed, so it's a blessing that McCartney excels at both. He always seems comfortable no matter what the subject, and has thoughtful and interesting answers to every question.
Thanks for posting this.
Love Paul's sense of humor. Wish I can have a conversation with him. I would ask all cool questions too.
Like instrument playing questions, if he still plays drums on occasion, if he'd like to smoke a bowl of some good pot (my treat of course) .....The Beatles for the most part are/were pretty humble, down-to-earth, regular guys that chanced into the most important and successful rock band arguably ever. The thing that was cool is that all stayed pretty humble after mass success.
Good point I would too but I would travel back in time to the 60s and proboly marry one of them!!:P
John Miller I bumped into Paul McCartney 2 weeks ago on Penny Lane.He was filming a carpool episode with a English comedian James corden.That's twice I've bumped into him now..
@@frannydarko2698 Lucky lady!
The Beatles were the greatest rock and roll group of the 20th century and when they broke 💔 up the world 🌎 wasn't the same again without the Beatles 😢
Not long after the break-up of The Beatles, John Lennon even said that the Lawyers involved on all sides, made everything worse between the 4 of them.. John did say hurtful things about ppl, but as Paul said here, he knew John well enough to know, that he didn't really mean some of the nasty things he said.
Count Wolfula but John's attacks, constant malicious attacks, fed media, critics, and a.c.t.u.a.l.l.y hurt Paul in people's minds. That's wicked. He could have retracted and apologized biblically, but he never did. John was just a weaker talent and man than Paul and the other lads.
@@laco4275 some of what you say may have been true, but I was there living through it, and we never saw the intensity of the feud. The Allen Klein and Phil Spector and all the attorneys representing everyone made it a circus. I never felt that in Paul's music. He turned to Linda and his growing family....she was a tough woman and he knew it. But she was kind. Think of "Maybe I'm Amazed" was written during all that.
John was hurt too....and there was not a contest in that department. He just showed it differently....as he always did.
@@laco4275 Definitely disagree. The most avant-garde music made by the Beatles were John's compostions.
La Co it hurt paul’s feelings yes i actually think john was annoying at that (and my fav is john) but have you seen that paul interview where he said sometimes he questioned his relationship with john just because hes been seeing so many articles and tv stuff and so many people criticizing the realness of their relationship without actually knowing the truth? paul said he had to sit back and think about him and john only to realize that YES, no matter how many fights they had and no matter what anyone says about what happened, they were best friends and will always be each other’s bestest mates. And youre like those people you know, how can you say john never apologized? We will never know. And to be honest i think he did because paul always said they reconciled before his death. Also there are quite a few evident songs that i think john wrote with paul definitely in mind. Example is one his last songs, Just Like Starting Over....looking at the lyrics i really believed he was talking about paul at that, especially he even referenced Wings and paul’s songs like Oh! Darling, Another Day, and My Love
@@lindarenaud2907 LOL all the avant-garde creations were Paul's. They were John's songs, but Paul, George Martin, and the engineers made it avant-garde.
Great to hear the old stories Paul, I'm from the 60s so saw the Beatles from start, when I was about 16, we went to a friends house during school lunch hour and played the track Anna, with a snare drum and sang along to the song, and others, great great memories Paul, we then started a school band.....
I really appreciate how honest he is in this interview.
He beats around the bush! He is never honest, he has an image to maintain! Its all repeated stories and false modesty
He's so obviously annoyed but still charms his way through it all.
He’s so candid and understanding and just such a cool guy he’s take on John it’s just amazing what a great interview
Holds an audience spellbound either as a performer/songwriter or, as here, in a personal interview - thanks for uploading.
I once read that John Lennon told yoko ono if anything ever happens to me I want you to contact 2 people: aunt Mimi and Paul McCartney.
You don't go to clubs for the food. LOL
I do hahaa
Haha
I go for the tasty treats...
pauls a gent. legend.
Paul has always been a gentleman, intelligent with a good heart and great sense of humour. I wish I had a friend like Paul.
Thank you Man I appreciate it
I can relate to Paul.Sometimes I feel like My close friends mean more to me a lot more than I mean to them :(.Anyone else ever feel that way.
he's so adorable
absolutely fascinating interview
PURE CLASS that bloke from Liverpool•~🎶🎸🎤🎵🎶🎹🎙♥️
Wow very surprised at his candidness and the quality of the interview
he is so adorable.added to my playlist i loved it!
"when someone like john lennon says you play muzak it hurts". nice glimpse of paul showing his true feelings for john, the whole younger kid looking up to the older talented band mate that was john. only person in the world who could hurt paul. in his mind, his only equal.
Paul started it first , insulting John ,so he deserves what he got, nobody can sing like John Lennon,, How do you sleep
CZcams is a great historical resource for any fan of any band but for me its the beatles
Paul your music was ,and is still superb, John said those things to hurt, he knew you are a giant of music
Yes, he damn well knew it.
I had seen some terrible interviews to Paul McCartney , but he managed himself by giving general information . We will never know the whole story.
+Maxula Pretto couldn't have said it better. he or ringo will NEVER COME CLEAN ABOUT THE BEATLES,AND WHAT HAPPENED BEHIND CLOSED doors.
Music industry caught up the Beatles;; they all got rich : etc yoko Ono; John Lennon & Paul Mccarthy broke up 💔 friendship their for alittle while etc etc ; hear Paul Mccarthy wanted the group to break ,; yoko Ono said that it on the internet
Paul and John actually started mending whatever bitterness that was between them for a time while John was with May Pang. After John got back with Yoko they both didn't mutually get together until shortly before John was killed. One thing that was good although tragic ending with John's death is both very mutually got together before John died. There was no more bitter rift between them that John took to the grave with him.
+Bill Bass exactly. there is that legendary story was that paul and linda visited john and yoko at the dakota in 1976 where they were just being cool and later that night was that famous episode of "saturday night live" where lorne michaels offered the band $5000 to reunite and sing five songs. john and paul were watching and almost went to snl studios but they were too tired.
There's an interview with John when he was in L.A. during his separation from Yoko. He was asked if The Beatles would get back together. John said (paraphrasing), "If I think of it tomorrow, yes." I think John sunk so much of his identity into Yoko, that he didn't know what to do with himself at that time. He needed to feel like he belonged somewhere. My take is that he had insecurities he struggled with and wasn't sure how to deal with them. Yoko made him feel needed.
John and the rest of The Beatles had been like brothers, from their teen years through their late twenties. They had been of one mind in the early days. As they became men, their interests changed. There's nothing wrong with that; that is how life is. I think they didn't realize it was happening, though. If they did realize it, they weren't sure what to do about it. They had fewer and fewer shared experiences.
Yoko accelerated the process. It didn't have to go the way that it did; they could have figured out how to endure. However, while they all enjoyed the absurd, and the random, John almost made a religion out of it in his relationship with Yoko. Bringing Yoko into their inner sanctum, which had only included George Martin, Geoff Emerick, Mal Evans, Neil Aspinall, and a few others, was an affront to the others. Notice that these were all men. This isn't sexism. The guys felt comfortable to be creative, open, and themselves. Now add a girlfriend...amidst a divorce...and a young son. That makes things awkward very quickly. Add to that, Yoko would sometimes give creative suggestions. If life-long trusted friends Mal or Neil made a suggestion, they would have found it easy to listen. Now, add Yoko, who was uninvited.
This explanation is getting complicated rather quickly. I think growing up, growing apart, drugs, bad business, etc., certainly contributed to the breakup. Yoko was the catalyst that lit the fuse.
Like you said, though, at least Paul and John had worked things out before John was murdered. Let that be a lesson to everyone to reconcile with their loved ones now. Tomorrow isn't guaranteed.
I love the sense of humor of Paul, and the way he says things like, he's so gentle, but I will think...well she are a bit silly
2:06 - 2:18 just became my all time favorite quote by Sir Paul.
The interviewer is Barbara Frum, a journalist who worked for the CBC. She died in 1992.
Although its a bit cringey and a bit cruel,I like to see Paul asked and answer questions like this,because you start to see a real insight which you rarely get to see with Paul because he's so media savvy. This isnt anywhere near the best but there are very few interviews where we see the really real Paul McCartney.
And those were ALL before 1966?
I agree totally cringey
@CBCtv THANKS A LOT !!!
4:00 He was so chill to answer that. 😌
McCartney interviews just after Lennon passed away are always interesting. He's just that little bit more agitated and will go further on things. He tends to paper over the cracks now. But I love the geezer!
I love his song about how she's buying a stairway to heaven or something.
+Steve Kowalchuk wtf?
@@stevekowalchuk1279 That was Led Zeppelin buddy
Did anybody else notice a bit of a smirk on Paul’s face after he said how Yoko had told him that”you know,John loved you”?
I like and appreciate and admire McCartney so much.
He smiles in the beginning snd it looks like him when he was super young
He handled some things dioys questions really well and thankfully kept his humour.
Next Question.
Good one, Paul.
That was a good question...now answer this which one was you...or was the interview with the idiot who impersonate everyone...
They all loved each other unconditionally until the end and in ways that even most families do not (as per Ringo in an interview).
Paul and John were true soul mates!
@@laavanya9584 yes they was soul mates ,, till Billy here turned up ,,,, Rip paul 1966,,,,
Paul is right. Commercial success is important. He was very successful in the 70s. I read somewhere that he was the most successful artist of the 70s. Not sure what the measure was. But even if a top 5 artist for the decade following the 60s, pretty darn good to have been at the top or near the top for 20 years.
Yes my right ear enjoyed this too
Some of McCartney's best work was in Wings. What a phenomenal band and an extraordinary performer and song writer.
All four of The Beatles did some great work in their solo years.
Wings was a good experience for Paul. His status as a former Beatle got him nothing in Wings' early days. They literally had to start at the bottom and work their way up, often offering to play for free at various universities. This made them hungry for success, which made them work harder, which increased the quality of the music. Adversity helps make for good art.
What's ur fsv song from them, mine is def spin it on or Getting closer (especially in the last 1/3)
agreed... Love Take Me Down to the Streets
Poor Paul, he really got picked on, but he is a great talent and I’d be lost without his music 🙏💗
Beautiful friend
"Only Yoko Ono can now tell you 'John liked you' ".
What the hell was this woman smoking.
She meant now that John is dead. The idea being that Yoko knew John so well as to see past his habitual bluster. McCartney often says that he and Lennon were talking regularly on the phone just before he died. Well, maybe. But if you read Lennon's 'Playboy' interview given just a couple of months before his death you see that there's still quite a bit of hostility there.
Yeah, and there's also an interview with Paul somewhere on CZcams from just before John's death in which Paul says John seems to get annoyed by everything he (Paul) says. 'Close' ??
"But if you read Lennon's 'Playboy' interview given just a couple of months before his death you see that there is still quite a bit of hostility there."
Yes, and that was for Yoko's sake. When John was with her, he had to constantly slag Paul publicly. Yoko required it to prove that John loved no one more than her. When he was away from Yoko's sphere of influence, he openly loved and admired Paul again, and even wanted to work with Paul again during the so-called Long Weekend.
Back with Yoko, back to knocking Paul. The Playboy interview shows that within earshot of Yoko, he slagged Paul...again. But rebuked her when SHE tried to do it by mocking her saying, "You're still carrying that cross? That was years ago!" In other words, "STFU about Paul! Only I can slag him!"
What happens in public does in no way reflect what happens in private.
JonathanAnon one of the worst interviews I’ve seen!
The Beatles grew up. America did not.
excellent answer mr mccartney
"Love Hurts" or can hurt but at least Paul knows that John loved him! He knew John and understood John. John was different (we all are) and Paul accepted him as he was. I know it must have meant a lot when Yoko told Paul that he loved him after John died.
I read that the first one Yoko called the day after John died was Paul. This was exactly when she told him that John had loved him, so I think it meant so much more to him as John had just been shot the night before...
that was a great comment! I loved it ;-)
maybe the best paul interview
Good job by the interviewer. She got more out of Paul than most of the other interviewers.
Whoa That interview went sideways, Paul was like (hang in there baby)
Paul is just so cute I love him
dislikable interviewer.
Yeah I'm glad she's dead.
p0llenp0ny omg
+p0llenp0ny how aweful
typical CBC interviewer
@@p0llenp0ny You were glad she's dead. Still feel that way?
Paul is great in this interview
Paul years later admitted he got depressed when John announced he was leaving the Beatles in '69. George wanted out too, saying it had become unhealthy and unhappy, and he had developed into a solo artist by then. So by 1970 Paul had to go ahead and make it official, but i think he and Ringo wanted the band to go on. That wasnt going to happen when both John and George wanting out.
A very rare good interview with Sir Paul. She interrupts him numerous times, tries to lead him and drops high brow words on him to trip him....and he tolerates all of it. He gives thoughtful and introspective answers. Frankly, I'm astounded. He usually talked so much bullshit to the media that there was speculation from some that he was dead, and that only a Paul fake could possibly act like that.
Yes this was Paul number 13 I think. They all look different . The fabricated four
Seriously! Why can’t people handle the truth! Paul is alive , is Paul! It’s like the moon landings or flat earth society , some people just don’t want to recognise reality !
Yoko played a major role & to a slight extent Linda .The wives of the two chief Beatles played a major role.
BRING IN THE BROADS! Ha ha ha ha
.."What?" Lol
"Give my Regards to Broads"
@@corbindallas18 She's such a dolt.
Always leave them wanting more!
The Beatles are one of the few bands to stop at the height of there fame . Most bands just continue singing the same songs almost like a tribute act to themselves.
McCartney is articulate, measured and gentlemanly
What Paul is saying is such common sense - it is amazing how many Beatle fans couldn't see this simple and obvious explanation. The Beatles did what they needed to do and retired on top of their game, just like Rocky Marciano. Period.
BTW, it is annoying how most of these interviewers have literally zero basic Beatles knowledge and thus ask only lame, cringeworthy questions. "Were you sad the songwriting partnership died when John died ?" And Paul has to patiently explain to her that the songwriting partnership ended when the Beatles broke up.
I love Paul.
I don't know what people think but i think paul and ringo are gentlemen. Never say something bad about their friends behind their backs especially two of them had gone. And there are none of our business why they have to tell us everything.
Paul is a bit more candid here than in later interviews.
Well said
Paul is such a kind, true and talented person, it annoys me that he has to endure the rubbish that comes with fame.
Well Billy chose to become Paul ,,,,
so it hurt? smiles real big.
She might have been rude, but they were pretty straight forward questions that didn't allow any bullshit answers. This is one of the few interviews i've seen with McCartney that showed what Lennons attacks really meant to him.
OMG - I LOL lost it when he said, “It would hurt you too if I started slagging your clothes off”! 🤣😂.
What he didn’t share here, is that he and John did reconcile before he died. I’ve heard many other interviews where he shared this. If this woman were really a good interviewer she would have let him talk and explain that but she had her own agenda.
Sir Paul... such a class act
@mpl1700 The interviewer is Barbara Frum for The Journal- Oct 1984
Paul's role as a member of the band is to be an organizer. Paul kept the Beatles in success which was a tough job. Yes, at times John got a little out of control, but honestly John was within his rights. No telling how much money Paul earned, but regardless this was a band destined for stardom.
can you believe he still tours he was born June 18th 1942! I think I have that same lamp!
Hi
Do you know anyone who may have photos from 1968 with Alan Williams in NYC during the management event for Apple announcement? I was in and out of NYC and the Beatles lives at many times. Any behind the scene or odd pictures from 1963-1970? I didn't collect pictures. I didn't go to their jam moments. These photos would be odd to find as the pharmacy picture on Paul McCartney and No Other Baby video. The guys were just friends during my spring breaks from school. I was around when Linda was with her daughter. John was a real sweetheart, George superb friend, Ringo greatest and Paul. I believe I last was in touch right before the breakup and Yoko came into the picture.
I suspect that whenever John heard a new Paul song, in that decade after the Beatles split up, he was imagining how he might've contributed a line here, a 'yang' to Paul's 'yin' there . . . knowing that their past collaborations had been so magical that they each improved on the others' songs. It's as if John's criticisms were really him saying, "Paul needs my input in order to transcend from 'decent' to magnificent . . . and I need him to do the same for me, generally speaking." As great as each of the 4 Beatles were on their own, they -- when together -- were more than the sum of their parts. As much personal uplift as John may have gotten with Yoko, prioritizing raising Sean then, as a songwriter he must have felt a bit second tier in the post-Beatles years. Even his best solo songs were not quite as resonant as his collaborations in the Beatles. The same goes for Paul, George, and Ringo.
Interviewer missed the point that John and Paul loved each other and that Paul knew and understood John and even his "bitchiness". Would have been cool if she explored the wonderful parts of the relationship and what sounds like a coming to terms and peace and maybe forgiveness on Paul's part. Thumbs up to Paul for his openness and conduct befitting the gentleman that he is!
Watched his tongue at 5:50 when accused of being insipid and puerile....sure sign of surpressed anger!!
MrBILLYSEQUINS Insipid? Puerile? The composer of 'Yesterday' and 'The long and winding road'? Really? LOL.
MrBILLYSEQUINS The father of 4 (including Heather)? Puerile? C'mon.
Jorge Ponce He isn’t Heather’s father.
@@jorgeponce7947 She's suggesting his work is puerile not me!
I just saw this interview for the first time. I noticed when Paul used the expression "Bring in the broads!" the interviewer responds with "What!" The camera is on her back so you don't see her say it and it's very low. She then asks him if that statement was a joke. I think the interviewer was working very hard to make Paul angry or make him look bad.
Amusing part: The Hurt/slagging your clothes off exchange. Very silly couple of questions there
This is a pretty savage interview to be fair.