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- Wing Chun Kung Fu taught by Retired Police Officer and Tactics Expert, Dominick Izzo.
Dominick Izzo has been training Wing Chun since 1998 and has been teaching in the Chicago area since 2008. He was the first American Wing Chun instructor to be published and published in back to back issues in Wing Chun Illustrated.
He is known for his realistic, aggressive and combative approach to Wing Chun Kung Fu.
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What The Fuck is This??
Cesare Milan was a Dog trainer but now He practicing Wing Chun?
lol
+Rising Force oh, shit, that's comical! LMAO thanx 4 that...
+Rick Sanchez now we know how He conquer every dog, with Wingchun fist!
+Rising Force Every country has one I guess this is the Italian American version lol.
+Rising Force funny as fuck dawg lolol
I hate to say it guys 'n' gals, but the martial arts have always been about killing when necessary. If you look back to the Liechtenaur traditions of messer and longsword (which I study) in addition to Fiore and other stuff from Italy, non lethal techniques are meant for situations where you're (for example) fighting a drunk friend who means you no real harm, and you want to disable him without injury so that nobody gets hurt. They are NOT efficient techniques, and are NOT designed to help you in a situation against an opponent who knows what they're doing and has murderous intent. Obviously if someone is inebriated or unexperienced such that they are easy to dispose of without risk, then so be it, but it is NOT worth taking the chance to get someone in a complicated joint lock and put them on the ground rather than simply inflicting a possibly fatal injury (in this case, cutting or stabbing). Although much more of a reality when people carried side arms (i.e. swords) and could get into a fight with lethal weapons at any moment, this can easily BECOME your reality if you are unlucky. Learn the techniques, and use whatever is justified in defending your own life. It's as simple as that.
Agree 100%. People seem to forget the "martial" part. I'm not learning how to hit someone in the throat for enlightenment purposes!
In absolute agreement. I think what has happened is some of these people came to martial arts by way of kung fu cinema. "A little boy see's his parents killed, vowing revenge he runs for his life, days later, famished and thirsty he's saved by monks and thru the years becomes Learned in the deadliest forms of kung fu, fate brings his parents killers before him and remembering his bloody oath, beats them to within a inch of their lives yet chooses to spare them 'cause he also learned respect for life in his teachings." In some other plot boy avenges teacher. Quaint, but the truth is that the martial arts began as military manuevers designed to kill the enemy. And all nations created own their forms or/and adopted others and used them. From the biblical hebrews and the egyptians to the greeks and romans and all the way down to today. I too was introduced to the MA by way of the Green Hornet when Bruce Lee played Kayo on that show. Heck, Kato was the only reason I wathed the show at all, lol. When I was a child I thought as a child. But I put away all childish things (and notions) when I became an adult. As should we all.
The problem now a days is that people take martial arts as just sports instead of what they were really meant for which was to kill your opponents in battle, all of them where created for war originally. I wish to clarify thought that I am not telling any one to go for the kill, but in a fight where you are defending your life you can't hold yourself back if you want to survive, what happens happens, in a fight you don't have time to think what you want to do, if you hesitate you may well die with how things are now a days.
george a roman
If i had read your post before I put mine up i wouldn't have posted mine since you said it way better than me.
***** You made me think of something else: kids. Kerawtee moms drop their kids off at practice, they get their black belts in three years through some kind of "young tiger" program, and have this false confidence that is dangerous when they find themselves faced with reality. The commercialization of martial arts is killing them.
To be honest the idea of working out in Wing Chun and hitting people with power going for hard karate style punches have been brought up by both Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee. My dad always told me to be loose till the point of contact then tighten up and hit with everything I had.
That's correct. It's rarely the punches you see coming that knocks you out. It the fast ones with the explosion at the impact that you don't see.
useless art useless teacher
Gungriffen Interesting because that is actually what Bruce Lee said...moron.
Gungriffen Exactly that's why a one inch punch is deadly. That's what Bruce meant when he said " You must be like water my friend". Strike at a relaxed state. Power comes from developing your chi. (I want you to know that I paused this moron to respond and will try to finish hearing what he has to say.) That's why I stopped Shotokan and went to 5 styles of Kung Fu. Including Wing Chun. First of all you don't go in to kill anyone unless you have to. They call it self defense. This fool is talking out of both sides of his mouth and can't seem to formulate a direct explanation. Instead he's talking about the toilet flushing, etc. You will have a harder time fighting a charge when they find out you're a weapon dummy. smh.
+Mannchild11 that is not entirely what he meant when he said flow like water... study the philosophy a little more pal
What the hell is this guy talking about? In You are not allowed to kill a person that comes at you with a knife if it was avoidable. That would be murder or another crime. You can disarm and maim, but only kill if necessary. Such as possibly if there are multiple attackers and one has a knife.
+great456789 Looking forward to your video on your experience in this topic and the laws vs practical application to support it.
It's just from learning a bit about the law and from my martial arts training. My instructor was a former police officer. Ask any lawyer. There are people in prison right now (not jail) for murder for thinking like you said.
2nd degree murder
You're confused on the definition and interpretation of law. There are circumstances in which deadly force is authorized. These deadly force rules also apply to law enforcement. Self-defense is one of those circumstances. For example: if a suspect charges a law enforcement officer, the officer can legally pull his firearm and shoot. Law enforcement officials do not shoot to disarm or main, every single law enforcement agency in this country it taught to shoot center mass. This reasoning can be applied to every single civilian. For example: It is justified if i deliver a killing blow to a person that charges me with a knife. Where people get confused is in the details and how it is articulated in a court room. For example: You are going to have an extremely difficult time articulating why you killed a person with a knife if you were able to disarm that person and he attempted to flee or surrender. Also, this reasoning is why you cannot shoot someone in your front yard that broke into your house and then fled outside. There is no threat to you at that point. If you were to follow them outside and kill them, you then are guilty of murder. Sadly, most people do not understand how law is actually applied. Every situation and circumstances are different. The answer is always found in the details and how it is articulated....Ask any lawyer and you so stated.
Ff8boss - well, I am not confused. You actually confirmed what I said! If someone attacks you with a knife and you are able to disarm them, you then are not allowed to go on and kill them. That would be 2nd degree murder because the lethal threat is over at that point. I am speaking of a one-on-one situation. But what the guy in the video stated was if someone attacked you with a knife, that means you kill them. I'm saying that mentally is illegal. Go back over what he said in the video.
"too hard & karate-like"... in karate we're always relaxed when we strike.
This is basic biomechanics & physics.
The muscles in your arm are an antagonistic pair (bicep & tricep, one contracts the arm, one extends it), when you tense your arm, both muscles contract, which slows down your strike, which in turn leads to hitting with less energy (kinetic energy being 1/2mass x velocity squared). You can test this empirically with a newton meter linked with a strike pad.
whoa... who the hell has mussels in their arms?! that sh is freakin' delicious with butter. i'd cook that mf's arms if i was a cannibal, lmao
Nam3l3ssOn3 stupid auto correct. Fixed.
There are different styles of Karate. I don't know what style you practice, maybe it's a softer variant, but mine is pure aggression. That's how most styles of Karate are, and that's why Karate as a whole is generally labeled as a Hard Style of martial arts, while Wing Chun is labeled as a Soft Style. In Wing Chun, it's to my understanding that traditionally, their forearms have to be, as Jin Young often says, "As soft as a blade of grass." When they're first learning, sometimes they might try to visualize having no forearms at all, because that's how loose their arms have to be. Their power in a punch comes from the elbows and the body, ours comes from our shoulders.
TheColdestStone I do Shotokan, specifically that of Testuhiko Asai, my sensei was a personal uchideshi student of his.
You can find videos of Asai-sensei online easily, as he was one of the most prominent members of the JKA in it's heyday.
I also trained for a few years in full contact dojos with Kyokushin, & Seido.
Aggression is a totally separate subject to relaxation. If you want to hit someone with less force, then, by all means, tense up when you hit them.
"Their power in a punch comes from the elbows and the body, ours comes from our shoulders."
Really? Not from your hips? You do an Okinawan style, then?
I'm a wing chun guy. I couldn't agree more. People telling you you're doing something wrong when it's what they are trying to do gets me motivated to train harder. Too hard and karate-like is what they'll be telling the ER nurse. Keep up the training, and don't let someones keyboard training tips let your skills atrophe
I think he sums it up by saying that this is "his Wing Chun" its not meant for all of us. He has a more solid build so his 50/50 weight distribution works well for him, he can use his own strength and weight to counter the opponents blow. Basically force on force, (which is the opposite of what Wing Chun teaches) What if I am a smaller person, like a woman, I would not be able to successfully deflect his blow without it knocking me backwards. If I where to use the 70/30 stance, I would be able to avoid the blow all together, (without even needing to use my hands) and since most of my weight is on my back leg, I would be able to lean back and deliver a stump kick.
He has trouble using the 70/30 stance because he is not as light on his feet, and has trouble shifting his weight from one leg to another, where as a smaller lighter person wouldn't have this problem.
I believe what works for him may not necessarily work for others, and as an instruction he needs to be sensitive to his students individual needs.
***** Good point on the 50/50. I was always taught that you are never supposed to in any rolling push back muscle against muscle. WC was made for people who are slighter of built and designed to use speed and maneuverability over strength. Speed Beats Strength, Skill Beats Speed. If you're just using your muscle to push back on someone, you aren't using wing chun
It’s some people who don’t understand WC even teachers and turn it into another physical martial art...which it isn’t.
I’m known as a fossil,done wing Chun of various linages for years,it’s always great to see someone working the system to suit what they need from it and not just doing the square peg in the round hole thing
Wow! Didn't recognize you at that age! Thanks for continuing to teach us the right way of Wing Chun
I'm 35, live in the suburbs, and have never been in a situation where I really need to fight. What do you recommend for me? Should I train as if I live in a war zone? Or should I train in a way that brings inner peace, clarity, and improves my virtues?
Lmao why not buy a gun like normal people and bring inner peace to these bullets
Well, although I question if you actually really get it, I actually do think you stumbled onto the right idea, haha. One of my favorite quotes is from Yasuaki Kurata as the character Fumio Funakochi in 'Fist of Legend'-
Fumio Funakochi: The best way to beat the opponent is to use a gun. The ultimate goal of Martial Arts is to maximize one’s energy.
+Khechari nobody cares
Blake Grice why
+Khechari Krav Maga is a good place to start
Sorry but I don't trust a dojo with exercise balls, call me old school.
i'd call you japanese
I'd call you ignorant
OooOf
I like this guy. Thanks for your time and efforts and sharing with us.
Wing Chun can very much be an artistic and spiritual application of self. The style is adapted for combat between members or the same sport and gives it more of a dynamic flair to be able to move around more and displace your center line. all martial arts have advantages so comparing between them and saying it has a bad name is quite irrelevant.
You are damn correct. I seen how "real" Wing Chun practitioners in China handle Muay Thai kicks. The Wing Chun guy rooted his feet on the floor without ever leaving the spot, locked the opponents leg and twisted him to the ground. All along the process, the Wing Chun guy never lift his feet, but just change his body angle.
He was probably a rookie fighter or had a teacher like this guy ^, because wing chun is not intended to stay rooted and only shift instead of moving. The purpose of shifting is to turn or make small side-movements when appropriate, in the smallest amount of time and with the least of movement. Wing chun training does amplify the shifting quite much, but that's just to train the moves to an actual 'gongfu-level', rather than saying 'this is how you must fight'.
Where's the video you saw?
lolcano234
Biomechanics? Haha
@@paddotk not true if you lock in a leg when you root any style, period. Then you apply down ward pressure and rotate, this is the only way to keep the leg isolated and to keep the locker from being able to hop and keep balance or do the hop and spin kick that people like to try.
Most people do not understand that professional boxing, MMA, and other combat sports are different than self defense and fighting in the streets. I have watched friends of mine who where boxers and various martial artists get severely hurt in bar fights because they tried to fight as if they were in the ring and their opponent certainly did not. If you can develop core fighting techniques for the streets on top of your sport fighting and be confident you'll be in good shape.
You bet, Jim.
And let's say you're a Chin Na man. With boxing or any other gloved art, Chin Na is all but useless.
Barroom brawls and street fighting in general bear little if ANY relation to organized "above the belt with gloves on" stuff.
I can't believe in 2016 people still train this kind of garbage. God damn. Mind blown
Everyone is different but I think being extremely fast and stable at the same time is how to win a fight in the real world. there a so many different scenarios that you could get into, so you cant say oh this practice is better Than this practice. use them all as a guideline. teach yourself. Know yourself. Also learn about the human body..
UENEO Great comment.
Izzo Warrior Academy what a gobshite this guy is
UENEO could you be anymore delusional
***** How many times do people find themselves in a fight to the death.
I think you are delusional.
Dave McNair I've been stabbed twice and shot once in my life. It can and does happen if you live in a high crime area. I am not commenting on what this guy is saying. Just replying to your comment.
I like how at 1:10 he says "Kill them!! I have to say for legal purposes it's only self-defense" dude just admit you need your lust for blood satisfied
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+MNIMnoob F'em if they try and stab you. World is better off.
MNIMnoob if you don’t kill them they will kill you
Still a better love story than twilight
I had the very fortunate experience to be around 2 men who were very good at Wing Chun. They sparred one night; it was obvious who was the better.
We had an incident at a "party" - Knock on the door, 2 men in the doorway. One pulls out a .357 Magnum from his waistband as the door is opening. I stepped back, and went into action. I have never, in all my 20+ years of bouncing, seeing fights, fighting, etc. seen someone knock out 2 guys that quick. First guy went down in 2 touches, 2nd guy in 3. All within 10 seconds. picked the gun up, put it in his pocket, and we locked the door up again. This man was a North American Martial Arts Association Regional Champion.
One of my best friends is a 3rd Degree Black Belt in Tang Soo Do.
Another is just a Bull - one hit, one knockout in the 90's; over 35 one hit KO's that I've witnessed.
I love the stance and balance angle here - I've picked up a lot from the streets, and from having the friends I do.
In this day and age, run. Defend and run. Call 911 when you get the chance.
On the phone with 911, and you yelled "I have a gun, leave my house"... "I've called the police"....
They come where you're barricaded and can't run, shoot to kill - they are not there to give you a birthday card.
Best thing ever is to know your neighbors - know their schedules. Start a little "Guardian Angels" - Neighborhood phone list, people who have time on there hands help out.
We all work different jobs at different hours. There are enough people to check up on each other and keep our blocks safe.
I like Instructor Dominick's Wing Chung series on CZcams. Instructor Dominick gives common sense, real life, practical approaches to Wing Chun, geared to real life
fighting on the streets NOT the gym. Awesome series Instructor Dominick, keep bringing us more great techniques in 2015.
"I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by six..." So profound!
If you are good - you won't have to kill anyone. Train to be good.
Rupert Atkinson I understand, I agree. However in an instance where you are forced to choose between life and death, I will choose life every time.
Well, as I like to tell people, if you are training to fight for the street, you are living on the wrong street.
I thought the saying was "I'd rather be trialed by 12 (juries) than carried by 6 (people carrying the coffin)"?
Sounds good - but I'd rather train well and be neither carried nor tried.
"I'd rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6" is a mentality that will get you into jail pretty easily.
You haven't been shot at and stabbed, but people who have agree.
ArchOfficial www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/news/ct-lns-officer-honored-st-0522-20150521-story.html
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I agree man, I nearly did once, was out on bail for an entire year to find out I was in the right and not guilty, that year fucked me up in the head, turned to drink during that time.
+Arch
The Dead don't get the chance of a Jury Opinion.
***** And you're very likely to get killed with an attitude like that.
+Arch
You, of course have never been there.
"have you ever been experienced?" Jimi Hendrix
there is a saying that summarizes this, "I'd rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6".
The 70/30 stance looks like it is an invitation for massive round kick sweep
I respect your views on wing chun, but please.. Be respectful to other wing chun practitioners and masters. Like you said, everyone's wing chun is different, but yet, you disrespect others' wing chun. Don't use hate words like "Garbage" or "trash" on other people's wing chun like you said in your other videos. Be respectful like you would want from others. Respect is the foundation of wing chun.
I’d like to hear their thoughts on Taekwondo WTF....
Thetraveller Lightbringer if you never studied wing chun, you have nothing to say about that. It isnt the martial art, its about the person... In my wing chun gym there is one black belt of aikido, and i saw a lot of people trying to troll the master (including the aikidoka) and they always finish in the floor praying mercy hahahahaha if you dont know the structure, the structure will be shit like your opponent
That's partly why Wing Chun gets such a bad rap...there are countless schools out there teaching total bullshit. Even good schools don't prepare students for actual combat. The bad methods should be called out
Fried Rice , should this guy call himself a master, wing Chun is a strange thing for him, fooled me with the title
His being critical! Don't get offended for when someone calls out holes! If you have a problem, prove him wrong or be quiet. He says all the time that it is his wing chun not someone elses.
This is my first hearing of Wing Chun...sounds good to use in combination with boxing, karate & jui jitsu...a fighter with all these mastered would be in my opinion a complete fighter.
Just gonna apply some common sense here..
A 50 50 weight distribution allows for stronger weights to hold their center of gravity better. If you plan on never moving in one-on-one combat, or if you are larger than your opponent it makes more sense.
However, usually in combat with more than one opponent, you are being attacked from multiple sources. Holding a 50 50 weight distribution while being attacked from multiple sources decreases your overall chance of making it out of that fight because of the inability to move.
70 30 allows better movement and footwork to out maneuver multiple opponents and create new opportunities to strike due to your ability to easily pivot your position.
Masters of either can obviously bring about many exceptions to these rules but in general terms, 70 30 is more applicable in combat where you have to fend off multiple opponents.
From what I have read so far, Wing Chun is a defensive form of combat. More often than not, learners of Wing Chun wish to be able to defeat larger opponents. If you are already generally large in terms of strength, you probably don't need to learn Wing Chun because you are able to go on the offensive very easily.
Just thoughts. :D
I think that most people don't realize that chi sau is NOT fighting. As far as rolling over with your elbow, it only works when you step and keep your center line on them, and if you're taller than them.
1. if somebody approaches you with a Knife you give them what ever they want.if a person is that desperate then maybe you should help them .nobody wants to take your life just to take your life. and if they are after YOU IN GENERAL then I think you need to settle your debts like an adult. 2. a Master never ever gets into "fights". A master will take the knife from the "friend" and then give it back without causing the "friend" any serious injury and allow him to rethink his actions. then maybe offer help or advice or another solution besides violence. A Masters worse enemy is Violence. and he carries that Title because he is best at disarming a violent situation using THE LEAST amount of physical effort WITHOUT causing harm to anyone around him
. I don't know how I ended up on this page but I will leave saying this ,someone who teaches Violence in any form does not have my respect to call him "Master". this is all trickery.
It's all trickery to believe that you can disarm someone without harming them, unless they are a small-sized woman, a kid, or a drunk.
But then again, I cannot fault you for your argument on a Master's behavior in such situations. So, maybe such Masters don't exist?
Averagebum Bum Maybe. But let me ask you this? there are many who claim that they are Aware that Satan is the Greatest master of illusions and trickery. do you think that they would actually know when and if they are being Fooled by him?
James Metalarc
I'm sorry, I am losing your line of thought.
I have to disagree with the statement "nobody wants to take your life just to take your life. " If someone comes at you with a knife on the street, they've already come to the terms with the fact that they're going out to start trouble and possibly will send someone home in a bodybag, and they're prepared to deal with the consequences. To them, your life is expendable. Nobody randomly attacks someone out of the blue without the intent to kill or to severely incapacitate.
Sara Llewellyn Sara, i agree with you,BUT! if someone Targeted you for disposal dear they would not waste the energy of using a knife and giving you a chance to prevail. and if it were a trained professional whom may need the stealth and silence with the aid of a knife then there is nothing you could do or no class to take to save you ;-)
Wing Chun isn't for law enforcement to use as a killing machine. Wing Chun is a defensive martial art meant to strengthen the mind and body and to only be used when absolutely necessary. If you want combat martial arts then learn Bruce Lee's style. Which I might add was HEAVILY based off WingChun concepts and techniques. If you learn it properly it CAN be deadly and I have used that style is all out combat (not life or death, it was simulated, but if each person needs to go to the ER for any reason it's intense training). Wing Chun has potential to someone who actually researches into it because it is a martial art that relies on intense speed and can utilize the strength of your enemy by using it against them. But it isn't something you go around town using to put down anyone you deem needing to be put down. And if you think Wing Chun isn't powerful then those "masters" you referenced and copied? are obviously terrible, which is typical for the US because so many martial artists in the USA just destroy the original concepts of traditional martial arts which is why they get such a bad wrap unfortunately. And as a Shodon (1st Degree) of Shorin Kempo style you have a horrific excuse for martial arts training. You are lacking in your stance ( I am an instructor, I know my stuff) your strikes come from your arms not your body, and so many more flaws that I need to point out to you in person. You have no right to criticize a martial art you know nothing about.
A gun is never a match for an edged weapon unless you have it out already. If you try to pull your firearm out to stop a knife attack you will be stabbed long before you can get a shot off. According to tests 30 feet is the distance needed to pull and fire at a person charging with a knife to avoid a possible deadly wound. Never be blocked by ego from running away. It can gain the time needed to survive. Remember if you fire a gun you will have to answer for it and if running was an option you could have used they will charge you.
In the words of Paul Vunak "Knife, pick up an equaliser if you can or retreat", "Gun, run retreat or fly" The point was that knife or gun disarm does not work. He had an interesting video where a little old lady held a marker pen and demonstrated how many cuts were sustained by a skilled knife-man who attempted to disarm her.
lol "look at my sensitivity"
I'm sorry but I wanna meet this dude. And show him what he's teaching is useless.
and yet you couldn't figure out how to find him based on the website given. That makes you far more useless
jamespohh LOL! touche
So you're laughing at yourself. Great
jamespohh u got me cant lie
Please do that. Film it too. Put on a great show, champ!
We don't do 70/30 in that particular stance. We do 90/10.
Oh! Wow! I Remember you now as I watching you back in the day and i meet your Channel again in 2022
you look bigger with muscle. He the same person all along
Nice too meet you!😆
Why did this video piss anyone off? People have different points of view about technique, do what you decide is right for you. It's going to take you years to use this art as practical self defense in an emergency anyway. A boxer of six months who's fast and powerful is going to kick the average beginner's ass anyway (unless they know how to box).
And if someone comes at you with a knife, you have to assume they're intending on killing you , you have to disable them long enough to get away (they're not going to just give up most likely). You don't know what they will try to do even if you disarm them. That means you should knock them out or break something important at a minimum just to ensure your own safety. If they die because of that, it's their own fault. Great explanations, great video.
You got the 50/50 weight distribution from the William Cheung style. It is not your own idea and anyone who has trained under William Cheung knows this and also knows that the 70/30 weight distribution comes from the modified style of wing chun. Your goofy demonstration of hopping forward is not used in a defensive situation but rather offensively. It blows my mind that people sit around in this generation talking about how Kung Fu, after 1500 years, is so broken and only they have the knowledge and skill to fix the problem. If people would train more and promote themselves less then they would learn from experience instead listening to random views and opinions of unqualified people.
You my friend should be teaching in this video not this &$%@
chris allistar thank you.
I do not agree with you. Do date, I have yet to see a William Cheung lineage practitioner who I am "impressed with". That is NOT an insult, rather, a statement that I just do not agree with their presentation of Wing Chun. No, I did not get the footwork from Cheung, as, stated before, I do not follow his teachings. Your opinion is yours. I respect it, however do not agree.
izzotacticalcombat I know for a fact that you did not train in the William Cheung style and I know that William Cheung's teaches the 50/50 footwork because I've been training under him since 1988 so it is not an opinion. It is a fact....... I also know by your demonstration of the 70/30 footwork that you have trained in the modified version for many years. Your muscle memory is too good. So how can you critique a style that you never train in? By presentations online? Videos on CZcams? Real qualified Kung Fu teachers do not teach their students online. Their knowledge is taught and passed down in a class room with hands on training. What you're doing is self promotion. You are simply trying to sell your system to improve business. I understand this but real Kung Fu knowledge is given to dedicated students who attend class instead of to everyone online. I hope you understand that I am not pissed or angry I just wanted to set the record straight. And just because you disagree with me does not mean I'm wrong. I was running my own school when you were just a teenager so please stop trying to take credit for something that is not yours. The 50/50 weight distribution comes from the Traditional Wing Chun style and not you. Peace.
chris allistar Thanks, Chris.
Great perspective man and good info... people forget that everyone's style is different.. much respect!
I agree with you, , you are doing the proper wing chug, I know an older guy a professor in Jujitsu, and he is Dangerous, he told me at his age late 80's he cant fuck around, he will fuck you up fast, he does not have the energy or stamina to do a long fight, but you are right, "center line" is where it is at !
He is right its a mentality of survival and if you dont like that then you don't have to watch his videos
I get what you are saying about 70/30, but consider the varying heights and body types of other practitioners. Some with slimmer or longer legs may have more dexterity and get more use out of the position, especially in transition or step. Balance is key. But overall, great video! Wing Chun is very underrated.
Thank you.
Wing Chun is an internal martial art meant for women or people of a small stature? am i right?
James Reed It's meant for humans all shapes and sizes
very good video. Thanks a lot!
The 50:50 philosophy shares quite a bit with Japanese Budo arts, where the whole emphasis is on keeping your centre, keeping you balanced and ready.. :)
This man is giving a bad name to Wing Chun. The way he "shifts" makes him seem like he watched Ip Man ONCE then said he knew kung fu.
I like how you highlighted "ONCE" in your comment and it also seems reasonable to me that in order to really be good at wing chun one needs to watch Ip Man at least 2 or 3 times. How many times do you have to watch it in order to be a master ?
10,000 hours makes you a master. So I dunno, divide the runtime of Ip Man from that and then watch it that many times.
Andrei Popescu lmao
mike craig Exactly!! he's a douche
mike craig he was barley even shifting
I will never fear the man that knows 1000 kicks only the man who practices his kicks 1000 times.
Be like water is the concept of fluid movement, to move through several movements without breaking points in between the movements. There are many philosophies on how to be rooted or balanced. The most valuable in my opinion is to never defend a useless piece of ground. Balance is like a cup. The cup has two destinies ( to become full or to become empty ) but only one can be achieved at a time however once that destiny has been achieved the other is imminent. For example if the cup is full to attempt to make it more full so to speak will cause it to overflow and thus a collateral effect outside the parameters of its destiny has occurred, as such the only real destiny the cup can have is to become empty. If one is balanced and he has reached his pinnacle the only real option is to become unbalanced otherwise he will overflow and a collateral effect will occur. Achieve balance by not having it. If you are well balanced then you must be deprived of it. True balance is not being unmoving like water in a glass the has no movement. That is stagnation. True balance is equivocal flow back and forth and thus the prevention of stagnation. If you seek perfection, be like water.
Masterclass wing chun :
1: Attack IF a free passage
2: Focus on the centerline not om limbs
3: Yield to greater force
4: Follow through
You talk about 3 and compensate with 1 butvforget the important 4 that is as bad as unrooting yourself. Suggestion is to stick to 2 ant wait for 1 and do 3 and 4 on 2 and complete 4 when 1 occurs. Another tactical important thing is ALWAYS stick to 1 in complete attackmode with 3 as an out. To succeed you just reduce complecixity to nothing and do 4 until done.
Great video. You remind me of my dads style when i was young, he's 56 now and I'm 34 & and he can still kick my ass!!
I think you make a valid argument about full on defense, but another arguably higher road is to defend & disarm, then bring him to justice. Killing is too risky.
I'm sure this guy would be able to take out an Mma guy, especiallt now that we've learned what Mma is all about.
I'm just learning not to fight but to just know who to. I found this really easy to understand thanks for the video.
Instructor Dominick has the best most common sense and logical approach to the Wing Chun stance.
'kill them, it's as simple as that'. Well, assuming simply forgot to mention giving them your wallet rather than leaving it out on purpose, it still isn't terribly easy to kill someone with your bare hands when they have a knife. you'd be so screwed. you have to control the weapon ASAP, disarm if possible, and run as soon as you get the opportunity.
I have to say the guy in Kung Fu with Wing Chun is right about balance and Leverage who knows what he's talking about it may have pissed off a bunch of other Wing Chun teachers but he's right I respect that they hiring for showing the basic fundamentals of Wing Chun he is a very good instructor he's got the right idea about Wing Chun everything is showing is exactly what Bruce Lee showed me
All the very best to you.
+Officer Dominick Izzo - Tactics and Training try not to murder anyone today dom. ok ty. i mean self defense someone to death. you psyco fuck.
+Officer Dominick lzzo - BEHIND THE BADGE I saw a dreadful video with someone using Bruce Lee`s moves, it was dreadful! Why is Lee taken so seriously?
Just wanted to make a comment about the knife. I've been studying knife fighting for 23 years. The best thing to do when confronted with a knife, if you are very quick on your feet, is to run. If running is not an option then you need to find an equalizer, such as a belt, a piece of clothing, or something off the ground to try to get the person off and hurt them. If he is dumb and you get lucky then maybe a martial arts disarm will work. I've tested people with 30 to 40 years of martial arts experience with the training knife where I had them try to disarm me. They all got the disarm after I stab and slashed them about 8 to 10 times, but this was with a plastic trainer. In my 25 years of martial arts training I have not found one martial arts system that could deal with a knife fighter. Now I train in the Filipino and Indonesian martial arts systems that incorporate the knife to learn how to fight with it, but at the high levels it is so fast that the weapon becomes virtually impossible to defend against. It takes 20 years to become a good martial arts master, but it only takes 2 weeks of training with a knife and that person could kill all the martial arts masters.
His points are valid. Kung Fu fuckery is rampant.
can u please answer the fuzz over the forums and comments recently saying Wing Chun is useless ... especially to those MMA heads. They even calling names to WC like 'wing chump' , upload a video showing WC fighter lost to every style (to prove WC is not effective.), its like WC is a big joke to them. I'm not a WC practitioner but i just hate when people says this style can beat the shit out of that style or this style is useless bullshit.. they need to respect others.
Might be because not many that people really know Wing Chun. And the ones who do might not participate in sport fighting events. I'd say about 90% of normal WC action is illegal in most rings, everything efficient against wrestling is illegal in MMA (ellbow to the spine/back of head, fingers for the eyes, attacks against throat, frontal kicks to the knees). And a good wrestler is a very dangerous opponent...
Marcus C i see what u mean.. almost all WC moves are deadly lethal and deadly lethal moves are illegal in MMA. If some of WC guys participate in MMA ring, they would fight with a limit..and thats not really WC..
Don't know about illegal moves, huh. Stomp a knee when your opponent rushes in and see what the referee says.Have someone grab you and go for the eyes, similar result. Try a chan sao to the neck/chin area, judge will be happy to kick you out. Anyhow, its self defense to me, why would I go in a ring?? Apples and oranges.
There was a time when I didn't know the difference. I know both, with different levels of skill though.
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If you know the history of Wing Chun, then you know it was influenced heavily by a female, and the art is based on small people maximizing their body for speed and power. A lot of the arguments about personal opinions and body types are sort of moot. Of course this guy is going to have trouble with the stances because Wing Chun isn't built for a muscular upper body. The more yoked you get, the higher your Center of Gravity becomes, and the more you must taint the movements to adapt them to your body.
Jonnylee5000 yesss you're right man
I did say the same thing than him... His upper chest is to big to use the 30/70 ... And people can't use technical that not fit his body in weight or condition.
I dont know that much about it, but your points sound totally legit👌🏿
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Jonnylee5000 one this dude isn’t real muscular more like soft stocky.i seen many real muscular guys able to do this stance among many other types of stances,drills.kicks.splits,etc.really depends on how you keep your flexibility plus strength.this guy is just cocky and believes he more then some old Asian guy who study traditional wing chun from say ip Mann or some other wing Chung guy who studied the original art.remember like he said it’s his wing Chung so right there already proves his isn’t the right way of doing it just the way he does it that makes it work for himself,which is great.nothing wrong with that at all until you say something that insults the ones who stupid under the masters who created it.there is nothing done here that makes it how it should be or making it the right way.plus the moment he talked about he trained to kill and blah blah blah set the type of person your listening too.probably goes on next video and explains how he has developed the true way of lifting weights so you can still be a fighter.that bullshit has been proven wrong many years ago so nothing new there.he probably is a fuckin real cool dude when he isn’t in the I know you don’t,me,me,me mode.anyway train hard,live and respect life and others,god bless you all
Cool, he has a garden tower in his dojo. I have three of those in my back yard.
Yes I absolutely agree with you. 50/50 the way to go. I'm only 5'5 and need all the balance on two legs. Unfortunately, I can't train any more and I miss it.
When I was training I was lucky enough to be Grand Master Felix Leongs regular training victim, ;). I dont think this video would piss off anyone that has a reasonable spatial iq. They would just get it. Great video.
Thank you, all the best to you.
Yeah. This video makes sense. There are just to many aspects to fighting. Martial Arts is structured, and I think that is why we have so many different ways of teaching...Because we tend to branch.
Evan King Great point.
Lol.. I just read this again. It is funny that you mentioned a reasonable spatial iq. You're still right, but o so funny.
Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts Everyone is just hooked on the "kill them" part. I know that lethal force is sometimes necessary because you want to get out of the situation with your life, but if a 17 year old scared kid comes at you with a knife for god knows what alcohol or drug that he used, your first plan shouldn't be to kill. ( Just for the record, I don't know what is the plan of anybody that comes with knife at armed police officer and you can't blame the officer for lethal force really).
You are watching it from law enforcement perspective where you put your self in line of fire and in dangerous situations with dangerous people... in every day normal guy life there is not much life threatening situations and you shouldn't turn the fight into life or death situation before you exausted all other options.
I like the instructors apponant there. He will do really well... :) A gentle middle aged guy who realizes he has got to learn these things... lots of bad people out there... lots of respect for you. :)
What is apponant?
What he is saying makes sense. I too suffer from flat feet and have arguments with instructors in the past about stances. Whatever works for you.
Bruce Lees quote of "Be like water" is absolutely used in its correct context.
I can't help but think of another quote by the great man, which is "Find YOUR centre"
I used to work in a HK fast food restaurant and the chef said, self defence is easy. u dont have to be big. He just showed me where to hit in a person that can maim him and let him urinate blood. whole process less than a few seconds.
To be honest, it doesn't matter how much martial arts you know, either can fight or you can't,
Wing Chun has some good basis but Bruce Lee went on to learn other styles for a reason, because he wanted to fill in the weaknesses that Wing Chun possessed, how often do you see a wing Chung guy beat a wrestler or a MMA fighter , hell even a kickboxer for that matter , iP man was a freak of nature that figured out how to use wing chun in a fight, people like that are not born everyday, jeet kune do is basically Wing Chun with a boxing stance, so if the master Bruce Lee change his wing Chung stance , shouldn't that mean it didn't work, just saying
Actually jeet kune do is a combination of many martial arts. Wing chun is only the styles foundation that Bruce Lee built upon. Bruce didn't change his stance because he never had just one fixed stance for every situation. His stances changed depending on distance, weapons etc. Bruce was an extremely brilliant tactician. He never looked into other arts because wing chun "didn't work" he found that it may not be suitable for all situations, not "didn't work", just that there may be something to get the job done a little more easily. Truth is there is not one, superior and complete art that will be usefull in all circumstances. For example; wing chun may not be the best style againt an MMA guy in an large open environment such as the octagon yet, MMA fighting may not be the best for defence in a long and narrow back alley. Respectfully.
I disagree, his foot work was the only thing that changed, but his stance stayed the same, using a crisscross guard, Floyd Mayweather uses the same guard if you're not sure what that is, the crisscross guard makes the body compact and relaxed like a coiled snake which makes your intentions unpredictable, that's what makes Mayweather single strike jab so hard for fighters to see coming
@@siweaver1509 in my honest opinion use what works for you it's that's simple
coming from guys with boots on mat and a crossfit gym
Good instructional video - My latest Sifu has the same concept, training, and application method just like yours. I took Wing Chun for 3 years and I had a problem applying it. Years later, I met a different Wing Chun master - his method of training was the same as yours and I began to understand it; I improved a lot after that.
"using no limitations as limitations " "express urself"
Big fucking arms, why do wing tzun? If you don't value the principles, why not learn regular boxing so you can use all that brute force all you want until you are old and weak and need to use them?
Bob Jones I think what Dominick was trying to say in the video is one needs to make their strikes strong and not weak, which I agree with. I don't have much experience in Wing Chun Kyun but to my knowledge, even though Wing Chun teaches how to strike little less effort and energy than other systems, you still need to put effort into your strikes to make them hurt your opponent. Put in as much power as you can while still remaining true to the principles taught in Wing Chun. If one does that and avoids unnecessary deflections/parries and attempts to finish the fight as quickly as possible by striking as fast (and hard) as possible, I think that would be utilizing Wing Chun correctly and effectively.
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Bob you are stupid to think that just because he has big arms that he shouldn't do Wing Chun then you need to understand the principle of martial arts it's like water a puddle splashes you if it isn't big enough it does nothing but if a riddle wave splashes you it does small arms big arms mean nothing in Wing Chun it's about as stupid as saying I can't learn it because my legs are too big
***** uh yes Donnie is a pretty buff dude not hugely ripped but yes is big and just because a person is big doesn't mean anything martial arts is not designated to one type of person or build if a style can only be used by a certain gender or build than it fails at being an art
You need some strenght otherwise you wouldn't be able to move your arms. Being strong and having power is always a factor in a fight.
At least some people have a brain in this conversation plain and simple size has almost no type of function in martial arts cypress I did watch the video what does that have to do with the comment I posted.....nothing.
This is the Wing Chun I'd want to learn, seems way more effective! He makes some solid points. After Karate, I'm adding WC under my belt. Being too fluid in a street fight could be risky, it's about landing effecting blows to exploit your opponent and flee.
Although I'd prefer to simply not fight. Opinions?
Thank you! Well...if you were put in a position where you HAD to fight, we need to have the skills to end the fight with a ruthless aggression and decisiveness.
Fluid is where it's at man..."be like water" means so many things. I noticed they try and use it, (the saying) in their video's but they are not applying the lesson of the saying. No one who teaches a set Style is, it's not often that someone will throw a wing chun style punch at you on the street. It is a very good part of your journey though and I do recommend it, especially the sticking hands and feet stuff (thats a watery part, feeling your opponents movements and going with them and subtly redirecting them so you can strike...water becomes the cup). Hapkido is another very useful "style" much like Aikido but most folks don't carry swords these days. It's very good against grapplers
Study and practice everything you can, boxing, karate, gung fu, etc.Some parts will work for YOU, some won't...use what works, discard the rest. That was Bruce Lee's way and he is where the quote comes from " If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, if you put it into a bowl, it becomes the bowl. Water can flow and it can crash! Be like water, my friend."
Yeah but ... anyways... you are 99% accurate, except : why israeli defence military? I mean do you have supperior military punching techniques? Cause I'll never train in Israeli .... rofl
Jane Doherty. Reaserch then comment, in that order please
***** I fully understand you. I understand why you talk about IDF now because if I had to train I'd train for what is best to me. I bet you're Isarealian? I'm not gonna look at your videos. I do love martial arts and don't care what I do with what I learn, cause I am mostly mind talented and less physically disciplined. I have no discipline, wich means I have no style, wich means you'll never understand what I do until you get hit 5 times in a row in the face and still try to do the same but fail. But yet... that is only one fight I did, and yes, to win, you must want to fight. Cause as soon as he got angry and told I bettter stop or I'd be injured, well I stopped. You know why? Cause sometimes fights are not done to injure the other, but to claim something, and sometimes, it's a fight for life, and sometimes, injuries are not your goal. Have you seen that Swords dancer kredo in game of thrones? When death comes, not today, my friend. (This show makes me crazy and wish I had a real sword and could do the same as they do..., yet, you talk about militarist krav maga or whatsoever like if it's gonna save your life. Wake up dude... unless you dodge the bullets... you're not gonna save anything...) Still... That was interesting to me and wish you great luck. And if those fuckers stop spamming my bottom right corner of window saying they connect and disconnect, I would have written a more comprehensible speach cause I would have seen the fuck I wote (rofl) ) +++
Hi,
I am training in the EEWTO which is the European brand under Leung Ting. I just want to comment about the 5:51 part and the backfist thing. I am training since 2011 (with breaks) but I never saw something like this. First of all, the elbow enter goes directly into the sternum or face if possible, but it does apply pressure on the body and arms, not just arms. Also it is not a 90 degree step, but a 45 degree with keeping your body directed to your enemy, not your side. Also the backside of your hand has do many little bones and nerves to hit with it comfortably and without worry, so we don't do that. You can however use other types of hits at this position. But that's not of matter, just the enter showed is not according to our school.
Thank you and kind regards, keep up the good videos!
I've been a student of the Cheung-style version of wing chun and have to tell you that the 50-50 stance is what I was taught for all the transitions. The entry technique was actually just that for covering distance and reaching the bridge (the close-quarter contact with the opponent). It was never to be used up close, but only as a way to confuse and perhaps distract the opponent's perception of what you are about to do in reaction to his projecting himself as being a threat! Chi Sau too was a lesson in discovering an opponents energy, its direction and quantity, and using it to your advantage by slipping through "the cracks". You're good by training the way you do as it would be more authentic as such! Keep up the good work!!
JKD makes the most sense out of EVERY martial art! Bruce Lee's philosophy of "take the good and leave the bad" is essentially what MMA is! These people who worry about weight on feet and waste your time explaining it (for those of you who couldn't figure it out yourselves) are just selling you dreams.
You do realize that Bruce didn't even finish the first section of Wing chun Right?> Also in his books where he explains why he does almost every move, he compares it to Wing Chun and to street fighers in American and boxers, and every single time he talks about how something is wrong in Wing Chun because they do this or that.....i want to vomit! Because Bruce didn't understand Wing Chun , he was not even that great of a fighter in China, but he owned people in America because they never seen Wing Chun. I am sorry but JKD vs WING chun is not even a question. Bruce was a great actor and a good guy, but he was not the best fighter nor was he the greatest Wing Chun practitioner.
Brian McComas
You're missing the point ENTIRELY! Wing Chun is BS. I think Bruce knew that. I'll admit it sounds good "block and counter at the same time" but boxing teaches a more realistic version of that. What you need to do is look at this pragmatically. Martial Arts are inferior. MMA (yes I know what it stands for) is the only thing aside from boxing that's debunking everything these guys have been selling the rest of the world for centuries. I gurantee you a high level boxer with the most minimal training in wrestling will beat 99% of the martial arts masters of the world.
nezerac
Now you are BS for saying that. Have you learned wing chun? Have you ever used it against a boxer in a real fight? Have you ever won? I can say yes to all these questions. I have been attacked (if you could call it that) by people who could be considered high level boxers as you put it. I have never been hurt in a fight with these people thanks to my training in wing chun. I have never and I mean NEVER met a boxer that I realistically think could beat me in a street fight. Furthermore, your claim that a boxer with minimal training could beat 99 percent of the martial arts masters in the world just makes me a mix of angry and confused. Boxing is undirected brute force compared to practically any martial art.
Never fought a boxer in a real fight. Just sparred. I have been in many brawls. I used to bounce for several bars and clubs. And to be honest I wasn't allowed to use Wing Chun or any real strikes on the customers. By policy we had to try to talk them out of causing trouble and if a fight already broke out it was more of a grappling and finger lock the guy and walk him out the door kinda event. But yes I have been jumped been sucker punched and I have been in real serious fights. Won some and lost some. But the thing is all of this was during my years training Jujitsu. I only recently started 2 years in Wing Chun. And I am telling you it works in a fight. My Sifu does spar and he doesn't let up at times. I see my mistakes and I learn. And far as fighting a boxer, that is something every boxer bitches about. Because there is a difference between a thug using boxing skills and a real trained boxer. We don't have a boxing program in our city or anywhere near it
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First off...you're a fucking liar. If you fought and beat ANY boxer it was on shear instinct and not Wing Chun. Bruce said "discard the useless bullshit" for a reason. It's USELESS BULLSHIT!!. Also until you can provide proof to the contrary and show YOURSELF, beating a HIGH LEVEL BOXER you're just a dumbass who contradicts himself in his comments. Also some people think getting into a shoving competition or a little scrap qualifies as a fight. NO, a fight is when it's you, the other guy, and your health, self-esteem, ego, and sometime even your LIFE is on the line vs some bullshit, couple of drunk guys bump into each other school yard scrap. TRUST THEY'RE DIFFERENT!! You have to keep fighting and sometimes you have to keep fighting until the cops show up or you'll be dead. Can you say you've done that??? Doubt it.
Your stance is weak. There are over twenty instances where you'd get knocked on your ass. Martial arts is humble. You are are full of pride while you lack good instruction. You should not call yourself a teacher.
As my teacher say "make it your own" don't follow any one else's technique otherwise your down for the count, and I like this guys opinion on Wing Chun and though I like it doesn't mean I'm going to follow it. Just means I'm going to take a bit, adopt it and make it my own. Because he's right I'm 34 and I don't really have time to play in graceful chi-sau, I rather end the fight and go home.
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I always appreciate anyone who is passionate about WC. Mr. Izzo is well spoken and committed, what more do you want in a WC man? Everyone isn't going to jive with your sensibilities. Take what you can from all of these resources, and move on. Stop with all of the criticisms. This man is taking time to share with all of us. Much respect.
+Phil Morris Your video interview was a huge contribution to our community. Your passion is evident and inspirational. All the very best to you. -Dominick Izzo
he cannot do wing chun in a real fight or a play fight! did you see the apparent video ever he beat the boxer and mma fighter
+Don Mega wing Chin is fukin hard as shit man , i cant dø it But I dont pretend i Can an this guy is Just a fuckin fraud
+Steven Stopford he isnt a fraud. he's a joke
nezerac Also, Wing Chun has much more "street cred" than JKD, in my opinion. So, you can take an actor's word for whether Wing Chun is an effective style, or you can watch the vidros on youtube of them beating down Kickboxers and MMA enthusiasts, lol.
I believe that Bruce had some skill, as is evident by his training videos, but he was by no means a full-contact fighter in reality. I don't ask a hot-dog vendor for advice on upholstery, so please refrain from arguing an actor's opinion on martial arts, and calling others stupid for knowing better than you do. JKD has done terribly since Bruce's death, with absolutely no succesful practitioners proving that the art is actually effective. Quite the opposite is apparent; without Bruce's formal training, JKD instructors have proven themselves sloppy and incapable. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but prove me wrong (you can't). The S.E.A.L.s passed up Paul Vunak's training in favor of old Okinawan karate Goshinjutsu (self-defence, probably from Goju-Ryu) combatives.
well ive never actually seen a wing chun guy win an actual fight, ever. and ive been searching for a good three hours.
If you "see" it, the person doing it is wrong. That is the misguided problem with Wing Chun.
Vir Animus I am the same as everyone else out there...someone with a view point.
Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts I believe this is the fault of Google+. My response was targeted to Muraku666, not to you. His derision and dissection of an empirically superior man is not congruent with any reasonable sense of fairness or objectivity. It is a sterling example of "Internet Tough" at its heart.
ummm....bruce lee won full contact fights....
Most traditional Chinese styles have conditioning stances that are used to build leg strength and test the worthiness of beginning students. Since Wing Chun is a fairly recent art (1820s???), I would guess it "borrowed" its back stance and center punching from Xing-I. One of my Wing Chun teachers even speculated that it borrowed from the pugilistic style of 1800s bare knuckle western boxing.
Something that always worked for me is shout in their face as loud as you can then poke them in the eye and walk away works every time.
The author is heavy minded about the right and wrong of forms. Depicting a welk known figure to prove his point. For his ambition is raising attention or perhaps fame from doing so he is crippling his own creativity modeling Bruce Lee IpMan or... If one is weighed down by searching faults and holes in others work one is lost in that search already a crazy circle in fame and wanting to be the best. He trains hard and seems to have a following but mocking others work is a big no no in the martial world I feel. At his age not young not old but not quite humble. "Self discipline before fame"
I,m not advocateing violance "But kill Them " wtf..
He's right. Criminals don't care about laws (but knows them), they also know that, to get what they want, they have to be aggressive; and killing is an option if they have to avoid being captured. So if they end up dead, it's kind of a "work accident" for them.
Great discussion! I agree, in the first stages of learning a self-protection Art, all students should be taught the most direct attacks that incapacitate the attacker, immediately. Its a bit naive to suggest that a student should act with the control of a master.
As for the stance, the 50/50 stance is a preparatory position, not a fighting position. Because Wing Chun is not side dependent, like boxing, the preparatory stance allows the fighter to blast forward which ever leg is needs to be infront, dependent on the type of attack.
Chi Sao, is a training exercise which helps one feel where the anatomical line of power runs through the body to the floor. If you focus on keeping the stance one way or the other, 50/50 or not, then you miss feeling the power line. The human body is a connected system of levers and Wing Chun takes advantage of this by using the elasticity of tendons and ligaments. Chi Sao is designed to teach a student how to trigger this effect from the ground, through the body, and out of the hands. 90% of Wing Chun seen today, uses muscular force and rotation....this is not real Wing Chun, in my opinon.
Many people forget that WingChun expresses Zen. It is a practical demonstration of Zen. Wing Chun means well spring, and is a cryptic Zen statement describing the phenomnenon of power that is accessed when a person makes makes this break through. Read the works of Yammaoka Tessu, Japans greatest swordsman. He fought his opponents with a wooden sword because he did not kill them.
Well said, but actually why it is called wing Chun is because the girl who invented it is called wing Chun...
Why would this piss off any Wing Chun practitioner? If anything it helps them implement their art more effectively. Geez...
Beautiful quote: "I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!"!!!
Brilliant!!
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Well Chris, I'm a bit older than the hills haha.. somehow missed that one...still words to live by. :-)
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am so happy I do Bjj
+bassbaine One of My friends got stabbed half a year ago when he use BJJ on a robber and put him in submission. He didnt expect there was a second guy. Stupid guy trying to be badass
Sure BJJ is vastly strong in 1vs1 fights. Maybe i dont know if BJJ have more than submissions and takedowns to offer but i dont see how it would be effective against 2 opponents and up.
Am 99.9% sure you can't take on two guys, and is very likely your instructor can't either.
+PurpleShy Guy sorry i didnt go into details of the story. The guy was with his girlfriend. at first he managed to take the robber down to the ground but rather than taking his girl and run away, he went for the submission, which is what i think a lot of BJJ guys tend would do (after all its what you guys are most proud of). i guess he was trying to impress his girl thats why i called him stupid
You're sorry you didn't go into details cause your bullshit scenario probably didn't happened to begin with.
bassbaine
lol Kids on the internet these days. And thanks you just proved kids like you are the reason i didnt want to give too much details. The prime example of the type to bash and bite on anything that doesnt support what you do without even trying to be civil
You cant just shift and stay rooted in an all out adrenaline fight
hey man kickass keep fighting. i dont understand why people argue about the best way to fight, since it varies for everybody. i mean, you show your understanding very well in this video. other videos i have seen just show no wing chun and claim they are ONLY wing chun. (alan orr's channel) keep it up stay strong
This video pissed everyone off because....THE TRUTH HURTS!
Don Mega I practice the 50/50 stance every morning when I wake up and go pee
+Don Mega I AM GOING TO BE AN ARROGANT KNOWITALL..... rotflmao. 50/50 stance is almost a quarter of the way there. LMAO rotflmao..... just kidding. Don't want you guys all in a huff.
I don't know karate but I know crazy.
The only time I practiced the 70/30 weight distribution was in tae kwon do, and for that style it makes sense. For Wing Chun, it's 50/50, never recalled anyone saying different.
+Tony Martin I sincerely doubt any Taoist martial art would be 50/50 in application.
totally agree fight it in a court room rather than a hospital bed.
oh, and i love that comment you made, "i'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six"
Thank you.
i wish master wong would beat master ceazar milan :O
Lol
This man's Wing Chun movements are really soft and sharp, desisive and powerful at the same time. Where can I find some videos of his fighting in a match? I truly wanna see how he applies these techniques into practical competitions..
Dominick,
If you ever get a chance, check out Henry Mui's Wing Chun school in Boston (or Cambridge), MA. I think it is run by Jim Roselando now and called Gulao Pin Sun Wing Chun now. When I studied with Sifu Henry Mui in the late 1970's, he just called it 'turning' wing chun (as opposed to 'facing' wing chun or Hong Kong style wing chun). This style of Wing Chun is a closer-in fighting style than regular 'facing' wing chun. It does not have a 70-30 stance like regular wing chun. The stances I were taught were all 50-50 and turned on the balls of the feet while flat-footed, just like you are doing. In fact, it looks a lot like what you are doing during your explanations about 70-30 stance turning and why it doesn't work in real life. By the way, I just saw your video called "How to beat a giant - Little man's wing chun". Great insight. I totally agree with you. This is exactly what I was taught in turning wing chun.
He makes valid points but no form is ever going to be them same so 50/50 mite work for u. In my eyes ur stance should be ur own set for ur body type and the bodys own ability of movement.
As for killing someone. Really MA is to preserve of life. u should be good enuff to disarm someone and be able to stop the fight or attack with minimal damage and have them arrested.
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Sorry for any spelling mistakes.
And keep up good work with ur training. I will taken on board some of this technic.
Actually the truth about MA is not to persevere life that is a philosophy that was developed form the study. MA is actually for disabling many opponents as quickly and efficiency as possible. The aspect of preserving life in a combat situation only comes from when you have the option to disable because you skills vastly out match you opponent. Mercy is a luxury not a certainty
I don't know if you heard but he does mentions that he is an expolice officer. Also if you listen to his cockyness and the way he overly forces his exhibition volunteers you can tell this guy does not care about life.. "I don't care to disarm him, I'm going to kill him.. I'd rather face 12 in court than 6 in a coffin".. This is classic cop talk and justified murder ideology.
Isaiah Jones VERY TRUE INDEED AND I HAVE MY BSC IN CHRIMINOLOGY
***** a warrior mindset, sure is attractive for a dripping wet neanderthal female. For a retired officer/wing chin specialist its more like a murder mentality or paranoia or "I wish a motherfucker would" syndrome. Which I believe is unnecessary violence. Today a warrior is a past or present serviceman be it army, marines, navy, national guard.
Isaiah Jones
If someone is trying to kill you, you're not going to attack with the same intent?
You will be carried by 6.
this guy has IP MAN rolling in his grave. what a disgrace.
well bruce lee too , used some of wing chun ,but didnt use, what didnt work for him , this guys just doing the same
If you understood anything about ip man you would no, he was the first person to push the boundrys of wing chun.and what is it with everyone loving Krav Maga. Small minded idiots, it's a one dimensional shallow martial art. It's main concepts are meat you're enemy head on witch is great if you're only going to fight smaller people than you. There's no magic martial art the answer is pick an art you are good at and you understand, learn it from top to toe then make it you're own then you would of found you deadly martial art. Oh yea mr izzo not sure if I agree with this one but keep pushing the boundrys
drunken master once told me "be like water, get drunk"
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The term 'be like water' doesn't give Wing Chun a bad name. That term opens the students mind up to how the human body functions within certain physics concepts, such as within the elements. Once they are aware, they can be taught by how to correctly apply each element.
One reason for the 70/30 stance is that it aligns with certain meridians points within the body. A 50/50 stance does not. If you physically had that tripod there, then it could, but since we do not, it actually is not a grounded source of energy- technically speaking from a biochemical and energetic point of view. The reason a 50/50 stance FEELS more secure is because it's apart of a structure that you are already familiar with- it's easier to comprehend. The 70/30 however is a completely new frame work that works through the meridian points in your body, such as bundles of nerves and organs. So by mastering 70/30, you change your entire body chemistry and how your energy is grounded and flows.
Daniel Son! Hari-Goto, and komo-kasaki. LOL All you have to do in a real life situation is! Poke someone in the eye as hard as u can' And its all she wrote! You can take down the biggest baddest person. Or just run as fast as u can haha...
You've never tried poking someone in the eye, I take it. It's not as easy as made out to be. Your chances of poking them in the eye on accident are far more likely than doing it intentionally.
It's "Daniel San". If poking the eyes is all it takes, we don't need any other form of defense do we? In real life, many won't let you get that close. I suggest you get into a fight and see how well that works for you.
Lyndsey Stang Hmmm! Ur asking me to get into a fight? I've been in so many I lost count'' Im a 2nd dan in Karate-Do & 10 year kickboxer! I've poked people in the eye and there were helpless,, Idk if u ever been in a fight?? But I been punched in the eye many times.
So rather then a closed fist to the eye! Poke instead ,, And yes I caught many people in the eye with a punch & finger lol,,, The best time for a poke is during a block! Simutaneously with the same arm you blocked with.
So do me a favor? Get into a slap boxing session with a friend! Then just touch one of there eyes during the slap box" Dont poke but just touch and you'll see how easy it is.. Stay safe and H-NewYear
trouble maker gr8 b8 m8
trouble maker I think it is shameful to say, "I've been in so many I lost count" and supporting it with being a 2nd Dan in Karate-Do.
If you're referring to tournament matches, then I don't think intentional eye-poking is allowed. (Unless you're teacher is John Kreese.) I will disagree with Lyndsey though, it's really not that hard to strike someone in the eyes in Martial Arts.