The Marines Reacts To Most Hard Core American Sniper - The White Feather
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He should have gotten the MoH for saving those fellow Marines from burning to death, and getting severely burned himself in the process of saving their lives.
I had Hathcock's spotter as a patient and we spoke at length about Hathcock. The "apache" was one section of our talk that he got emotional on saying "that bitch kept us pinned in like a cat playing with a mouse, and we couldn't get out or get support. But we finally got her"
One thing he made perfectly clear was "Carlos was a very humble man who was one hell of a partier but when he was going on a mission he was a totally different person extremely all business and absolutely no BS"
He finished our conversation with "thank you for letting just talk I really needed to do that."
I responded, it was an honor just to listen.
In his books, he regularly took others patrols and missions, even when just getting back to base, one of his guys would be going out, he’d take his place, and go right back out, to save his men’s lives, especially once the VC started hunting them in particular. He’s a true legend and leader.
I've read the book, and if I remember correctly he got chewed out for it by his commanding officer.
@@reaperking7748 yeah, they tried chewing him out, lol. Didn’t stop him or change his actions. I mean, what were they gonna do? Send him to Vietnam? Haha.
@@Plastikdoom I also read that his co ordered someone to keep him drunk and happy with a case of beer
Can't really punish someone willing to give up their lives for others by having death day after day in their stead. Literally he's already accepted death.
@@IAMSUPREME22oh but in the dark traps that is known as the marine HQ then yes, yes u can lol. He, jus gave 0 fucks, cuz the dude had the greatest confidence in the damn world.rightfully so, but In his books he literally states he knew better how to kill a man dead at 500+meters with a near 100nsuccess rate
, what can you do lol jus let this man hunt and feed him lol
I knew Carlos, saw him some times at the fishing pier in Virginia Beach. He was a really nice and friendly man and his death was a tragedy.. Carlos hurt himself trying to save fellow marines and it is ironic that it took a fatal disease to bring down this soft hearted, battle hardened Marine. I am not one to shed tears, but his death brought tears to my eyes. You had to know him to really appreciate who he was. A real hero, sorely missed by this former GI. Rest in peace, Carl.
Him taking out Apache is one of my favorite stories. She was a savage who definitely needed to be stopped.
When I was younger around like ten I heard these stories and from then on I have always wanted to be a Marine sniper. I got family in the Marines and these stories just made me want to become a sniper even more.
as a female.. i wanted to be a sniper too... instead.. i was a navy tech controller.. still put warheads on foreheads.. but not directly lol
I have faith in you. Nothing could convince me otherwise. Keep your eyes on the prize and you will succeed.
If you ever lose faith, come find me, I will remind you of your preordained success.
Full disclosure: I'm a 52 year old woman that has snuck onto her son's CZcams account. He changes the name a lot but I'll keep an eye out for you. I have 100% faith in you and you are worth the effort to find.
There was another show they had a retired sniper using period correct gear, they managed to recreate Hathcock's famous shot. They found that the old cold war Russian scopes didn't have as many lenses in them as the cold war American scopes, so there was less to deflect the bullet. They managed to put a bullet through a dummy's head at the same distance through a cold war Russian-style scope mounted to a Mossin-Nagant replica at the same distance in laboratory conditions. Mind you they had to try about 3 or 4 times before they got it right, which gave credence to how extraordinary the shot was and figured it out to be a 1-in-100,000,000,000 shot, just a little to one side, the bullet would have blown out the side of the scope and most likely not killing the target.
In the book Carlos Hathcock said that the shot that he made when taking down the cobra was a lucky educated wild-ass guess
That was Mythbusters. The original attempt at the story, they used modern scopes (I believe modern scopes have at least 4 lenses in them) and had declared the feat false initially. They revisited the story as you put it, many people wrote it to correct them on the scopes they used, using the proper Soviet era scope the enemy had used at the time and found the story to be true. I only know of this story because of a movie made about it. I believe the actor was Tom Berenger, but I could be misremembering who played him
Before he was unable to attend anymore, he would go to every Marine Sniper School graduation and personally shake hands with each graduate. Total legend!!
Funny thing about Carlos is that he used a 30-06 bullet in a Winchester brand rifle that is considered the least accurate sniper rifle in history. And the Marines could hear her torture that Marine and they wanted to run and rescue him and Carlos made them stay where they were because he knew she was trying to draw out more Marines.
Winchester Model 70. I have one and love it to death.
30-06 is an incredible firearm. It replaced my Savage .308 .. just as accurate up to 500 yards with WAAAAYY more knockdown power. I did 5 tours in Iraq/ Afghanistan. So I'm not talking just to hear myself. Give me the model 70 anyday!!
@@octopusjesus9100 best them rifle hands down
@@tommytrask4684I have a Winchester Model 70 in 30-06
It was my fathers rifle manufactured in 1968 and it shoots well for a deer rifle. I have fond memories of shooting it for the fist time when I was 6 but it is not in the same league as my Blazer R 93 LRS 2 in 338 lapua and a Nightforce NXS 5.5 22 scope mil dot reticle that has the ability to reach out and touch someone. The range that I go to has steel to 600 yes and a 900 max distance so I only have come up s to 900 yards.
Carlos did make the shot and the glint off the scope it what he shot at when he killed the cobra.
Ed Land is the one that started the marine scout sniper program.
Hathcock also won Wimbledon cup shooting contests too.
One thing I remember from his interviews about the general kill was that they had so much lack of information his only clue was too watch and see who they saluted the most.
When the wildlife doesn’t know you are there you can use them to know if someone else is near.
The Vietnam snipers, actual rifle with the scope is in the Smithsonian, so yeah he actually shot through the scope
He was leaving Nam in a week or so, but insisted on doing the mission! He said no one else could pull it off.
I had the honor of meeting White Feather at a formal event at Quantico. At this point he was already confined to a wheel chair. His son, SSgt Hathcock was my shooting coach when I was a new 2nd Lt. He had me keyholing rounds with the Beretta M9, and complimented me telling me "well, it don't get much better than that". I was deeply honored by both encounters with the Hathcock family.
He was the head instructor for my police sniper/counter sniper. Met him and his wife. Can’t explain in words what it was like to meet this legend in person.
Billy Bob Walkabout considered one of the most Decorated Native American soldiers from Vietnam.
Mythbusters proved that Carlos did in fact make the shot down the scope of the Cobra. You see the mosin nagat sniper rifle used a straight tube scope with no prisms in it. The bullet passed through the enemy's scope.
my grandpa actually met him 1 day when he was driving troops somewhere and he asked my grandpa if he could catch a ride and my grandpa said get in but my grandpa didnt know where the voice was coming from all he saw when the guy stood up was a white feather my grandpa never seen him again
he killed the famed cobra by shooting them through the scope thats where they got the idea in the movie saving private ryan
My thoughts too about that scene in Saving Ryan's Privates. I meant Saving Private Ryan.
@@devestv _snickers_ Either title would work. They did sort of pull Ryan's nuts out of the fire, after all. 😂
@@SpearM3064 I used to always joke around the reason why Ryan had those children and grandchildren running around at the cemetery where he saluted the Captain's grave. Imagine his privates were not saved by them.
he shot another sniper through the scope,, he shot "Cobra" while she was taking a piss
@Timogin43 how did she get a name like Apache? The Americans must have coined it.
One of you two do a story on Francis Pegahmagabow from Canada., 378 kills and over 300 enemy captured.
That shot thru the enemy's scope also happened in the movie Enemy at the Gates.... and/OR Saving Private Ryan.
They did that experiment with modern scopes on MythBusters I saw it and none of them work but when they did it on Top Shot they found out that a scope like the Russians use back during the second world war which is a single lens scope or double lens scope the round actually passed through the scope
Yep I saw that episode too, and it went straight through the scope
The missing info about training is that the US military would drop sniper training between war thinking it was not needed. So at the beginning of wars they started over again. That is probably why he went from MP to sniper. There was no training at that time.
How about the best of the best, in recent memory:
MSG Gary Gordon and SFC Randall Shughart.
Americans are more likely to know these two gentlemen as the two snipers that requested to be dropped off in Mogadishu after Super 64 went down. Movie based on the events ended up being a classic: Blackhawk Down.
Chief Warrant Officer Michael ‘Mike’ Durant (the pilot of Super 64) did end up publishing a book about the events as he experienced them; the book is called "In the company of heroes" (published 2003). Might be a good book to read in preparation for the video.
Good luck, lookin' forward to it.
In the Army you can't even go to the school unless you qualify expert every time. In my unit we had a guy who had those qualifications but you have to be perfect on every weapon. He didn't pass the class but was easily the best shot in our battalion up to that point. Nadeau if you're still alive and watching brother, shout out troop!🌎✊✌ Another MP but no surprise he was a Marine, what a history you guys have.
Chuck Mawhinney had the most in Marine corps History [103], one instance 16 confirmed kills in 30 seconds
Semper Fi Gunny.......
Nobody, I mean NOBODY gets within 1500 yards of the pearly gates if they aren't supposed to be there with Gunny on watch.
Pretty sure he said that mission was the only one he left the white feather at home on.
Yep
The apache wanted the marines to rush in to save their fellow soldier, the north Vietnam soldiers were setup to ambush them
Great channel! There are a number of videos about Carlos and he was exceptional and saved many.
There are several documentaries about Hathcock here on CZcams with interviews where he tells these stories himself. I recommend Hathcock to you around the time you did a video on the sniper called The White Death. I'm glad you found his story interesting. I had a feeling you would. Great video.
Dude never used a scope apparently. Nazis bombed entire forests to root him out, that's how terrified they were of just one man!
@@cameronmcguire1599 actually it was the Soviet Union that Simo Haya was up against not Nazi Germany. Even though the Russians won the Winter War they lost 500 men to one guy
@@reaperking7748 To this day those Finnish Mosin's are much sought after.
@@TheCritter001 I know. I would love to get my hands on one
I read a book about him decades ago Carlos Hathcock. Really amazing story. Great reaction
I met Carlos in 1987 at the Scout Sniper School when I was at Camp Lejeune .
Snipers are nothing without their spotters! You guys should react to Nicolas "The Reaper" Irving 33 kills in 3 months! That's only the confirmed ones!
I read his book while on active duty 20 years ago. He's a MOFO badass.
From what I remembered the USMC will allow a Marine become a scout sniper as a secondary MOS. You just have to get accepted and pass the school. My recruiter was an MP and later became a scout sniper before his tour as a recruiter. I later bumped into him while stationed on Camp Hansen, Okinawa.
Absolute legend!
I visited the rain forest in Costa Rica as a child. We went fir a 2.5 mile hike on a well established trail. You literally walk 25-35 feet and look back and you cannot see where you cane from!!!
Between the canopy blocking sunlight and insects the size of house cats...yeah it can be intimidating!!!
They had these massive “dragonfly type” flying insects with a massive barb it flew extremely fast with the barb facing outward. One wrong move and it would fly straight into you carrying whatever venom with it!!!
Very scary environment!!!
In the 1960s and 1970s the bush was a lot thicker too!!! Darn near needed a snorkel when traveling through the thick bush of that time period.
My uncle met Carlos at a gun show in the late 90s. Apparently a very humble and nice guy
First light and last light is also perfect for photography
I have seen this video before as well have read about him before. I'm really looking forward to your reactions.
Need to do one on Woody Williams MOH from Iwo Jima. Flamethrower with big brass balls!!
Gen dit is mistaken. Well it is completely true there’s no way you’re going to shoot through scope of an even remotely modern scope. However When they tested scopes that were of World War II era vintage and we’re the same type as used by most north Vietnamese snipers, they were able to replicate the shot perfectly with no problems.
So no it’s generally only possible if you have a time machine today. However to say that the shot that Hathcock took was impossible simply isn’t true. all signs point that it was possible given the scope and the conditions that it was done under. Also someone as prolific and accomplished as Carlos Hathcock doesn’t need any extra legend. Why would anyone like Hathcock need to lie about anything???
Your assertion that Mythbusters was eventually able to confirm the Hathcock story is true, but your final assertion that someone "as accomplished as Carlos Hathcock doesn't need any extra legend" doesn't hold up. SWOC Christopher Kyle, USN, Hathcock's modern-day counterpart, exaggerated both his naval and post-naval exploits. Being known as "The Legend" wasn't good enough for him.
@@roberthudson1959 while your right in regards to Kyle I think if you look at the vast difference in personality and character between the two or any other SS (Scout Snipers-not Nazis) regardless of branch of service or nation in which they served you'll find the vast majority to quiet cool headed and very methodical and analytical as well as humble. Interestingly enough that's how most of the "big hitters" in the "sniper" world actually are from any era, Kyle was the exception not the rule. the proof of this is in the testimonials of those who knew them and those who served with them. look at that young Canadian chap who I think still holds the record for longest " kill" with a scoped rifle no fanfare no embelishment just a AAR (after action Report) where he actually judged the distance about a couple hundred yards shorter than it actually was. humble and a good dose of humility that's their earmark and Kyle had neither.
Crawling for four days? Psssh. You ever wait in line for a ride at Disney World? ;-)
Good video. Thank you both for your service. Regarding Carlos starting as an M.P.: There was almost no sniper program in the U.S. military at that time. Captain Land, whom Hathcock worked under and with in Vietnam, single handedly restarted the Marine Corps sniper program. At one point, stationed in Hawaii, he used part of his unit's recreation budget to buy telescopic sights at sporting goods stores because the military would not provide them.
One facet of Hathcock's contribution is, to me, his single-handed development of very long range shooting. His initial record, 2,500 yards with a Browning .50, has been surpassed many times. But most if not all of these others were building on the work of others who developed very long range shooting. Hathcock developed his very long range shooting all by his lonesome.
Oh maan! I'm so happy you guys got to this guy. I've seen him in a documentary, and was blown away. An absolute unit, man.
Good video
You are thinking of the sniper from Saving Private Ryan Gen Dit Commando.
you should try reacting these with OriginalHuman too! The three of y’all would be quite a sight to see!
The Scope Kill Was also
Bad A$$!!!
I believe you guys should react to jhon basilone amazing marine from ww2
Basilone and Hathcock both cared more about their friends than themselves. True character of a Marine.
Ryan,Well done you always have great material to share with us,and keep up the good work.
Yeah my understanding is shooting skill is 5-10% of sniper training. The majority is all field craft and survival. I just try my very bad version of “field craft” while “hunting” squirrels in my yard. It’s is definitely way harder than learning to shoot (not that I’m a good shot either)!!!
"And they make it look like that!"
I'm f'n dying here
I saw an interview with Carlos at his home. He was a very disciplined charismatic man.
What a wonderful story!!! Truth is always better than fiction! Thank you Babcock for your service!!!
The American has a long line of southern boys, raised in very rural areas, hunting from very young ages. To provide food for their families, what’s remarkable about Hathcock, he only cared about his guys, and his country, he was fearless, and the us military has a long line of southern guys like him, there so skilled as a hunter before their first day of training
I want your dual takes on Mad Jack Churchill
React to something about Dan Daily he won 3 MOH
Incorrect. He was put up for the medal 3 times. He was AWARDED the Congressional Medal of Honor twice. No one “wins” a MOH
My bad the 3rd was downgraded to a DSC
The term I should have used was awarded
@@wolf6249107 He was also awarded the Navy Cross for the same action that earned him the DSC...
My brother is in the army. He earned his green beret. He is now teaching weapons, marksman and demolitions and explosives!
Awesome work
Outstanding video
One of my college friends (who btw introduced me to my current boyfriend who is his childhood best friend) was one of the first soldiers deployed to Iraq right after 9/11. He did several tours of duty. He also got stationed in Afghanistan. When he first came home, we went out to the pub with him and a group of friends. We asked him all kinds of questions what it was like when he first came to Iraq and I asked him what his job was. He said he was a sniper and he got stationed briefly to the Baghdad airport to secure it. He didn’t seem like he wants to talk details about being a sniper so I didn’t ask. I think he was just happy to see us and we him. He just retired and my boyfriend says our friend is suffering from PTSD because he’s taking medications. I’m glad he made home alive after so many years being deployed but as with a lot of our soldiers, he’s trying to cope with PTSD and some committed suicide because they couldn’t deal with their experience with the war. I prayed for him over the years because even though I don’t know all the details he went through as a sniper, I’m sure it weighed heavy on his mind. I’m happy to say that he’s thriving and I hope he continues to heal so he can be with his kids. Some soldiers including this white feather was probably able to compartmentalize with what happened and able to deal better and move on with their careers but there are countless others who are dealing with the war’s trauma and we need to give them all the Resources and help they can get to heal. That’s the least we can do to honor our soldiers and thank them for their service.
Need a video on Roy Benavidez. The most Bad ass Green Beret ever!
Patience is utmost bless them
I can't get enough of your dule reaction videos
Apache led a group of snipers. She would torcher marines within hearing of others to draw them out for her group. Very sadistic.
And what the hosts of this video are forgetting is that this "hills" were essentially LZ's, an elevated area cleared of jungle and ringed with wire to defend while being fully encircled by enemy troops hidden in the jungle.
The apache tortured those men overnight as psychological warfare against the soldiers on the hill who could not go out at night because they were outnumbered.
What most folks back here in the states don't understand is just how evil and wickedly the Vietnamese communist forces fought during the war. Most have some idyllic notion of fair play during war, such as the Geneva convention. Most of what the VC did was on par with the war crimes of the Nazis, and in some cases substantially worse.
Mythbusters did two episodes on this. The first one they used a modern scope with many more lens and elements and failed to penetrate it. The second time they used a scope from this era and did indeed penetrate the scope.
Im very familiar with Carlos Hathcock. From his raising in Arkansas to his passing. The best part is his solo crawl to take out an NV Commander solo. And he used a basic scope and rifle! He is a hero to me and a role model for our oldest son, who wanted to follow my Father into the Coast Guard, but be a helicopter based sniper to take out the engines of drug running speed boats. And yes, hes is that good of a shot, based on BB gun shooting! Thank you for posting this. I think that the Marine sniper school is named after him. Thank you again!
Carlos and Captain Land, his trainer, wrestled for the rifle, which had been in the process of being handed off when they saw the Apache. They missed their chance, but Carlos got her not long afterward.
Its good to see the Two of you doing this.
Most people are unaware that there were two other Marine units, Filipino & Vietnamese Marines, both trained by & fought Bravely with the US Marines.
And the Marines the VC feared above all others, The South Korean Marines. The Blue Dragon Brigade and the White Horse Division. They were heads-on-pikes bad dudes. Great reading.
You might like to react to a certain Major Patrick Ferguson who refused to shoot George Washington in the back during the American Revolution...
Major Ferguson was the inventor and advocate of the Ferguson Rifle. It was a repeating rifle and was being tested by the British Military. After his death early in the war the British War Department shelved the project thereby denying themselves of a much better weapon than the Brown Bess musket that was in general service at the time.
Yeah the little dramatic on that one cuz the reason why that measurement was held down was sniper on one side and the enemy in the other they were surrounded
Read his book "Marine Sniper" if you wanna hear this story from his perspective, the bicycle shot Theo brings up and the duel with Viper. That shot is the first page so you could read that in a preview of the book
Very intresting and cool video
He was larger than life. He was my hero as a child. Looking up to him then was cool. But he was so laid back. Humble yet cocky at the same time lol
Read One Shot One Kill it goes over some of Hathcock's missions as well as some other snipers from history
Discipline....reason he's a lengend
EXCELLENT!!
The cobra the Cobra Commander from the TV series cartoon GI Joe
When he crushed or bent the grass plants as he passed, he put them back up before moving on so as to leave no trace of his passage. This was in a large open field, not jungle. At times NVA guards were within a few feet of him, and could have stepped on him, during his approach.
Keep in mind. It’s basically impossible to actually document all his confirmed kills. Based on sniper tactics, shoot, and evade, so the true actual kills will never be known, confirmed kills requires a witness etc, many say his real kill count was in hundreds
How many enemy soldiers would've seen the white feather off in the distance and thought nothing of it?
-Fatal mistake.
There is a ton of other accomplishments by Hathcock, but to think that he volunteered for this one when his hitch was due to expire within days, because he did not want one of his comrades to die attempting it, well, that goes to his skill, self confidence, and self sacrifice in the service of others that make him one of our very best.
Carlos Hathcock autobiography is awesome. If you haven’t read it you should, I read it twice and love it.
You should do a video on Medal of Honor Sgt. Alvin York - one of the MOST decorated United States Army War Hero of WWI - a movie was made in his honor and named after him, "Sergeant York"
Well it's excellent hiding and stealth movement capabilities cuz for being a sniper you don't want anybody knowing where you're at
Stalking and the hide are really important
You should look at Ed Eaton's story in Vietnam
He was definitely a badass!!
a true Marines Marine!
Sniper training amongst our allies is very similar and there’s a lot of joint training and competitions
lovely video but what do you two use to sync the video and watch it together?
I've heard he mostly worked alone. He would show up to camp because he ran out of bullets. And saving private Ryan the movie pays homage to shooting through the scope.
"Hopefully he didn't hold the weapon like. "
Lmfao
If anybody's interested in any more sniper stories one shot one kill is a good book
Yes they did an nother mithbusters where they used the right ammo an it worked
In case noone is aware, the .50 with a scope shot was the premise that inspired the Barrett.50
Hathcock was a real life Rambo……
They were in shock hearing the brother being tortured it’s enough to cause you to freeze