'The shortest comeback I remember': Has David Cameron 'gotten away with it'? | LBC
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- As David Cameron steps back from frontline politics and resigns from the shadow cabinet, James O'Brien considers how much he is to blame for 'Britain's decline'.
Cameron, who had served as Foreign Secretary in Rishi Sunak's government up until the election, will be replaced by Andrew Mitchell, who served as Foreign Office Minister in Government.
The former PM said taking on the role had been a "huge honour", adding that he was "delighted" the role had gone to a "good friend".
It follows the Conservatives' election drubbing, which saw them drop to just 121 seats - their lowest in the party's history.
"It’s been a huge honour to serve as Foreign Secretary, but clearly the Conservative Party in opposition will need to shadow the new Foreign Secretary from the Commons," Cameron said.
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He is a coward, destroyed this country and ran
Twice!
Well said.
Grow up
raised the UK retirement age .then give Chinese pensioners UK aid money .got Drax b on bio pellets .lowering power out put and causing mayhem in nature in the USA ..getting rid of the UK s gas storage facility .failing the people of the UK forcing the UK into austerity ..out of touch and no idea of life in the UK .
@@missd2657 he should not have been brought back in , given how he run away last time after proposing Brexit 😠
He is responsible for not only Brexit, but austerity too, which is the reason our Country is broken. Worst PM of modern times.
Really really really really bad. Johnson was worse
@@StuartPackerYeah, Johnson was a v!le narcissist.
Apologies, I forgot to mention William Hague.
Our country is in jeopardy because we spent billions bailing out the banking sector, which is the UK’s biggest and strongest industry. The banking sector needed bailing out after Blair had deregulated the sector, allowing Commercial Banks to take part in investment banking activities, hence why Labour ended up losing their seats. So you’re wrong there, respectfully. Cameron came in to power in a position forced to commit to austerity. Since then, The country’s debt has exponentially increased, people expect more without the ability to pay for anything, so they have resorted to leasing and borrowing. This is why austerity has continued for so long, because the debt is getting worse, and the country is in a position where it is forced to continually scrunch on public resources due to a never-ending deficit.
Tories have failed in a bunch of metrics, and I can’t speak on every decision Cameron made in Power, but I have to say - on the two things he is blamed for; Austerity and Brexit, both were sensible. The UK made their vote, and Austerity was simply a necessity at the time. Perhaps it should’ve gone even further.
I think the failings were due to some of the Politicians after. May should’ve gone for a second referendum due to the low proportions of people who actually came out to vote, and the misinformation being spread at the time.
Let's not forget. David Cameron is responsible for the whole Brexit disaster.
TRUE!!!
No Brexit without Cameron.
And the Greensill fraud.
nono he kicked the can down the road.
And austerity with all the death and destruction that brought.
David Cameron really is the lowest of the low.
He is utterly despicable
Yep, a Tory.
And that is being kind!
Comes as no surprise whatsoever, just another self serving Tory.
yep - they’re gone from any continued meaningful destruction of our economy for years now - something many of them should reflect on before choosing alternative careers, in a field maybe they’re more skilled
Cameron is to blame for everything that’s come after 2010. his Austerity enabled brexit and everything that came after.
He is also responsible for massive cuts in welfare and in the NHS which has caused mass child poverty and long waiting lists in the NHS.
Quite a guy.
Truth
Blair started Brexit with 1.000.000 Poles being allowed in to the UK when nobody else wanted them.
When the going gets tough, Cameron gets going!
Just like the rest who should be held accountable
Again
a proven quitter.
@@williamgould2855a proven loser as well.
If he'd been an army officer he would have been courtmartialed
He should be in Jail. Nearly all the problems this country now face can be connected to decisions he made in government.
He was obviously a poor PM but his legacy is nowhere near as bad as Thatcher. She's on a level all of her own. Everything we struggle with today in 2024 was either created or made worse by policies that Thatcher introduced!!!
@@KryptonitetoallBShousing is the biggest issue, selling off council houses and not allowing the money to be spent on replacing them.
What went through her head was what will make us more Tory voters. Tbh that’s all the Tory party do, they concentrate on what will keep them in government the longest, not what will improve the lives of the citizens - ironically the poorest paid are the ones who make the money for the bosses, the managers, the CEO’s and the cut they take makes the wages of the workers so low they have to claim UC to maintain the basics of surviving…
@@dizzydoodles Yes housing was a massive error by Thatcher. Then there was not including social benefits within the jobless figures, increase of poverty for young and old, the breakdown of the UK because of the way she treated different parts of the country, the Conservative vote in Scotland has never recovered due to trailing the Poll Tax there amongst other things, deregulation of the banks around 1986 which led directly to the banking issues in 2008. I could go on and on and on.......
Are you on about Austerity? Blame those nitwits on Wall Street in the Credit Crunch.
@@Craig-j2e Oh it was a world wide financial meltdown for sure, but if Thatcher hadn't deregulated our banking system in the 1980's, we would not have suffered as badly as we did after 2008. It was only through Gordon Brown's measures that we all lived to fight another day!
I take you back to when he was called Dodgy Dave by Dennis Skinner. He was always lining his pockets but as he was followed by the liar Johnson and the fool Truss his behaviour is forgotten. He left politics with a fortune and a title. A true example of self before country.
And how right he was
Dodgy Dave has gone back to the pig farm.
Weee weee weee he cried all the way home.
@@antonycharnock2993 No! "Me, Me, Me" he squealed all the way home
Are you on about Nickelodeon's Dan Schneider. Didn't know he moonlighted as a UK politician. But after seeing Boris Johnson or this current PM I think they'll take anyone as long as it'll get in the Sun. Or Express. It's Politics Entertainment in the UK, an extension of the Z-List Celebrities Scene. OK Magazine and Closer, and the like if those are still going
He will still get his large pension, paid for by the tax payer
He hardly needs it. MPs pensions should be means tested.
And he's copped for another £300 a day now in the Lords
Of course he got away with it. They all have. All the deaths caused by austerity alone and none of these monsters will see any consequences
Laughing all the way to the bank, and thank you tax payers.
Sunak probably owns the bank.
Nothing new there from Dai
Yeah thanks taxpayers. Now give me some more money! That's it cough it up you rotten little normies.
He defo should have the lordship taken off him!
Yep - archetypal Tory.
Dave and boris should be locked up in the same room.
I think an Oubliette with Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak. In order. With a live cam available to view at any time
But who would play the pig's head? Or would they take turns?
And Farage, Putin's 2nd favourite puppet after Diaper Donny.
Until the end of time 🤮🫥
Agree ! They are both wasters !
'Call me Dave' isn't interested unless the job includes banquets, private jets and general hob nobbing. A shadow role won't appeal...
Well he successfully led the Tory Opposition for five years so...
@@angied8919 In a coalition, which nobody actually voted for.
@@3replybiz he was leader of the Tory Opposition before the Coalition
His 'comeback' just reminded everyone who broke the country in the first place.
You think the country was doing well BEFORE Cameron was PM?
@@Laissez-faire402 at least you could get a doctor and swim in river and maybe even buy a house... where have you been?
Cameron was the gateway through which all the other horrors flowed into our public life. Foodbanks, the huge cost of education, welfare reform which was anything but, austerity politics that was never needed and the immense amount of corruption that ensued. The rise of the far right, divide and rule tactics, the trashing of local government, Brexit and so much more…. all the incompetents, non expert politicians his two elections gifted us, with all their dysfunction and tendency for utter dishonesty. They were all the product of Cameron values and plan for the country, baked into those two wins.
He hasn't given up his seat in the house of lords has he? He isn't going to quit that gravy train, with its ability to vote against anything Labour try to accomplish
If you want to abolish anything anti democratic then the first is party whips
David Cameron took this country into a referendum. When it didn't work out in way he wanted it to, he then legged it and left the rest of the country to sort the message.
...... And then returns, and is made a LORD!!!!!! 🤬
@@Cherrytune386Ain't that just the way. You get what you want by making a mess!
David Cameron and trotters.😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
he should of used the word swine
Cameron Mr Oink Oink...
Don't forget 'Dodgy Dave' amongst his honours!
Cameron is of the upper class, Eton educated and of course he will get away with anything; that's the way of class ridden Britain. The aristocracy never face any consequences of their actions.
So incredibly angry with David Cameron. He ushered in the whole shower and just swanned off. Danny Dyer expresses it perfectly. Thank for talking about Cameron - I'm still recovering from the continuous awfulness of the last 8 yesrs in particular.
Dodgy Dave Dennis Skinner had him pegged
I miss real Labour politicians😂
Skinner pro-Brexit of course, as a proper socialist. Cameron anti-Brexit, which consistently gets forgotten amidst all the caterwauling.
The ironic thing about calling the referendum was to get shut of the Farage threat and the right wing threat in The Tories. We are back to 2015
Spot on!
Oh, we're a lot worse off than that. Brexit has happened and Farage is in parliament. Both of those seemed unlikely in 2015.
@@realhorrorshow8547 Yeh fair point. We now have worst of all worlds don't we?
@@jasonhand1742 one could conclude that. But a proper reset, even with some differences, is still an advantage. How often does one get a chance to make the next step from a previous one, with the full knowledge of what will happen with one of those decisions from it. Having the lived-in wisdom of knowing a better answer to a previous state.
Often, decisions of that weight are way less reversible.
@@simonlawrencesings
Not really
That clip of DC whistling while he walked away after resigning should also be highlighted
Let’s not forget David Cameron also protected his billionaire mates by refusing to hold the second Leveson inquiry
@@TheArnaa and got his pal Rebecca Brooks off from going to prison for her vile hacking court case. My former brother-in-law was lead prosecutor & promised to send her to the Tower. Brooks knew ppl in high places like having PM Cameron to protect her was his verdict when she got off. Disgusting.
Dodgy Dave should be in jail. Never has a smoother talking swindler been in the House.
Well he never said a word when he was called that. Not a word. Dodgey Dave seemed the right fit.
Dodgy dave at it again
it all started with Dodgy Dave and ended with Dodgy Dave
He is one of the reasons why Britain is surffering right now. The reason we have a recession, NHS are on their knees, because of Brexit.
And also because fhe sociopath Boris Johnson signed a hard brexit! Boris wasn't a true brexiter; he adopted the stance for political gain. He is self obsessed. If Cameron didn't call the referendum, we wouldn't have endured the abysmal Boris.
He wasn’t fit for the job of Prime Minister
Danny dyer.
An absolute legend.
Fortunately for him Cameron will not be generally remembered as the worst due to those who followed, He should be, he should also be remembered as hopeless/abysmal and the root cause of the UK's demise. We went from a nation that punched above its weight to relative insignificance.
Yes. Austerity, EU referendum and the stage it gave to hard right fanatics.
It's funny how what Danny Dyer said was absolutely spot on but he wasn't taking seriously because of the profanity and bluntness in how it was delivered.
If a posh journalist made exactly the same point but with a more eloquent tone it would be received completely differently.
You're right!!
Dudes a low key prophet
They do they just do not out into print
Dunno, mate. Ian Hislop has been pressing the same point in RP English for a long time now.
James, no atter what you or I think of John Major, he was interviewed before the Brexit vote and he laid out exactly what would happen if Britain left the EU. He was so spot on and accurate it was like he had a crystal ball. If anyone can dig out that interview it was astonishing his insight on exactly what would happen, and it did. I''m Irish and always hated the Tory party, especially Thatcher and Johnson and Cameron (jumped ship after the vote in 2016) and John Major being a Tory I had no time for him. But that interview should be played over and over again because he said what he said before the vote, not years after when it was easy to see what was happening. If the British electorate are capable of voting for a stinking fish like Brexit what else are they capable of? Starmer should be honest with the electorate that Brexit was a disaster and now that everyone in Britain wants back in what is he afraid of? Let him show some guts and name Brexit as the worst thing that has happened to Britain since WW2, and Thatcher of course who was a dictator in a democracy.
Well said 👍
Don't forget the press owned by non domes and the Russian money used to damage our country.
Both Cameron and Osborne have gotten away with it. They are the ones who I hold most responsible and vindictive after 14 years
I'd like to propose a second Bonfire Night on 23rd June, with DC as the star of the show! Guy Fawkes was unsuccessful, but DC has properly wrecked Britain. He lit the fuse and then scuttled off, he should be stripped of his title and reviled for his hubris.
I'll be first in the queue with the matches!
Love it
We should revive the Removal of Titles Bill to address the problem of Tory Crony Appointments to the House of Lords; only those who have lastingly served the Country should retain their Honours and those who have fled the field of public life for shame should be shorn of their stars & garters.
Absolutely agree 👍
Bye bye Dodgy dave, as someone once said, when is someone going to investigate his financial dealings??
The Tories will always get away with it, including Cameron.
Even ReesMogg said the morning after the referendum that no one knew what Brexit was and no one would until the deal was on the table. He also said the democratic thing to do was hold a confirmatory vote to see whether people wanted the deal or not.
That was ReesMogg backtracking after all the lies they told about the benefits of Brexit
But Eejits managed to get it onto the agenda of actual politicians.
This was the least that I would have expected 😢
He got made a lord out of it though didn’t he 🤨
And cheapened the honours system in the process.
Cameron should be prosecuted.
Rosey cheeks, ex Bullingdon Club member and lifelong toff, lard Cameron can go back to what he does best - text messaging.
Sunak doesn't need a powerless Shadow Foreign Secretary in the House of Lords. Cameron will keep taking the money and laughing all the way to the bank.
He inflicted austerity which we knowvcost lives...he called brexit...he ignored pandemic preparedness projects which ultimately killed 1000s of us
Cameron put his party before country! He opened the door to the likes of Johnson, Truss etc..
Cameron if he doesn't win he does a runner.
Mogg = thick as mince🤣
@mikesmith1485 Mike smith = 💩💩💩
@mikesmith1485 Mike Smith school all his youth and can’t even read English 👍👍👍
Danny Dyer really did call it
Thanks James for Tories History 😱
How about talking about Thatchers Damage which lead us here.
"the tweeeeerp" nearly said something else then 😂
It's a comeback like Bjorn Borg's
The only difference is Bjorn Borg had success in his first career
He has evaded responsibility, James. But so have all of them. Not contesting or losing your seat or losing your ministerial salary is not sufficient for the criminal damage the Tories have done to the country.
I would have always bet my mortgage on "Call me Dave" ending up golden out of everything. Tory party is in tatters, he's in the House of Lords.
He was obviously a poor PM but his legacy is nowhere near as bad as Thatcher. She's on a level all of her own. Everything we struggle with today in 2024 was either created or made worse by policies that Thatcher introduced!!!
The only small benefit of Thatcher is that because she had the fight with the coal miners, someone else didn't have to do it later. We've got off coal power a long time before many other countries such as the US and Germany. I'm not saying she handled it well. It could have been done much better. But at least a labour pm didn't have to take the blame for a transition that had to happen at some point.
@@adrianthoroughgood1191yes, Harold Wilson and Barbara Castle tried to alter the trajectory of the Union bosses by warning them with 'In Place of Strife' warning them of the danger of exerting power to their own interests. They ignored the warning and strife resulted in the rise of Thatcher and the dismantling of union power.
Cameron has gotten away with it. On his return he should have been questioned mercilessly, but never was. Why? Hes writing his own book and his own history according to himself. He must be held account for what he has done.
The Brexit referendum need never have been held, but David Cameron was so weak he let his back benchers railroad him into it, then left others to deal with it.
NONE of the current mess was necessary. Nationalism in Europe is on the rise, has been for many years, and is destroying any ambitions toward a single European State that the EU has or had - the very thing that brexitiers were most afraid of.
All that was needed was a little patience, and Britain would have been able to set its own agenda without the economic damage done by Brexit and the internal political turmoil it has caused.
Remember that Boris delivered a hard brexit, though. It could have been delivered in numerous ways. EEA membership was even proposed but unfortunately rejected by Theresa May...
David Cameron started the rot
It's annoying that he seems to have escaped the blame he deserves because he supposedly exudes an air of 'statesmanship'. Worst of the bunch.
Now of course without doing anything worthwhile he’s now been rewarded for failure 😞 to the HOL,it’s disgraceful 👿🤮🤢😡
He got a few months of spotlight and kinda relevant - and a lifetime peerage. I think, he was betting on it not lasting long. He got the reward, he wanted, for a very small price.
Remember when he left his kid in the pub, one Sunday....and his wife left it too.
Is that right? I don’t know that. Can you imagine the daily mail if a leading labour politician did that ? Incidentally maybe I’ve been unfair did they comment at the time?
@@mhoppy6639 it was everywhere...including tv
@@artistikworld4058 he was prob reminiscing about eton or pigs or something and forgot he was an adult.
@@mhoppy6639 probably eating roast 😂 pork
Eaton mess for pudding...
"hug a hoodie"
- David "call me Dave" Cameron
But don’t mention the 🐖
He kind of got away with it when he literally said 'I'm bored, give me a peerage and give me a cabinet position' and immediately got his wish.
How many people can rock up to an old employer and say 'I'm bored, give me a lifelong position and put me in charge of something'.
I'm sure it was Sunak who called him. He was probably better at it than any of the other Tories would have been.
Cameron off to farm pigs or something similar...
Get me the number for the RSPCA! Quick!
Snort grunt snuffle...pigs off to the trough again.
Save the pigs from this man at all cost.
😴 😴 😴 😴
Gordon Brown, Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, David Cameron, Nigel Farrage. The British people clearly dont have an effing clue!😂😂😂
Gordon brown wasn’t elected
Gordon Brown is pretty cool tho.
Gordon Brown, Liz Truss and Nigel Farage were not elected PM though by the British people. David Cameron and Boris Johnson were.
@@MikePhillips-pl6ov Except Farage was just voted into office!
Add Sir Keir Starmer and Sir Tony Blair to that list and I would agree with you.
Hello from Denmark, James O"Brien Thank you for your Program I always enjoy listning to you and your callers
100% to blame with his lies and austerity poison inflicted on the nation which in the bigger picture only achieved misery for millions nothing else as can be seen by the state of the country today carry on dodging Dodgy Dave
I remember Cameron/Osborne saying they would fix the economy in 5 years… 14 years later they finally kick the banker out of No. 10.
Pretty much the only time the Tories went with a manifesto item.
Don’t forget though, it’s the people who voted for something they didn’t understand. Except business people. They knew it would be a disaster. And the mere fact, the Tories didn’t know how to deal with the aftermath. And little Johnny at the back, putting his hand up and said. What about Northern Ireland! Face palming all round.
Yup. Every time a member of the public said "I knew what I voted for" you knew you were but one question away from discovering they were clueless. And largely still are.
@@nitsujism There's now about 8 years' worth of footage of people phoning into this very show and completely failing to name a single way that Brexit has personally benefitted them, or even any kind of tangible benefit to expect from it. Only some vague guff about "sovrinty innit".
he needs to be held accountable, we need an inquest into Brexit
Let's be honest, Cameron, Truss, Rees-Mogg and all the rest will walk into Directorships and top executive positions with massive companies and continue to make a fortune and laugh at the British public. Politicians shouldn't be allowed to take a job for 5 years after leaving Parliament!
Truss are you sure ?
So perfectly clear and well put. They should all face legal action.
He was the future, once, twice, three times a lady?
😂😂😂😂
Tories' decline began in 2016 when Cameron called for a referendum, lost, stepped down and since then the country had two general elections in 2017 and 2019 and four prime ministers, one of them having the shortest reign in history.
Arrogance was his undoing. He was certain that remain would win. He didn't want to enter another coalition again and also wanted to silence UKIP and right wingers in his own party. He thought calling the referendum was brilliant.
History will not forget Cameron, May, Johnson or Truss even if they think they've got away with.
Classic where is the Gezzer 😅😅 in Nice with his Trotters up 😅😅
He's put his trotters up, oof the *Swine!
To be fair, the Remain Campaign was kind of poor. It was only really Sadiq Khan who displayed any level of passion for Remain during the campaign. And unfortunately, for some people, his view doesn't matter because he's Sadiq Khan.
A joke.Sums the Tory`s.Even after you kick them out you're still have to pay for them....!
You track it from Cameron's decision point when he could have specified that a 68% majority must be achieved , that it was to be binding and "once in a generation". He would have been covered. Arrogant as well as over privileged and dense.
And let's not forget "The Big Society" .
Starmer should initiate a more comprehensive investigation into Greensill and do what is right with financial penalties and prison time for the corrupt. The same with those involved in the theft of Covid-19 government budgets.
He got lucky. All the subsequent Tory PM choices were so bad that they distract from Cameron’s single magnificent mistake.
He also took a gamble on Scottish independence and got away with that, and his imposing of austerity had greater dire economic effects than Brexit
Thanks David, you can leave.....No one asked you to come and work for us again …..please don't come sniffling back when there is a slight chance of power
David Cameron wanted a second term, so he promised the referendum. He was never prepared that the public would vote for for Brexit.
Jeremy Corbyn is equally to blame for not asking Labour supporters to vote against Brexit.
How many people remember *why* he was called "Dodgy Dave" by Dennis Skinner? I do and suggest people look it up. Cameron never actually answered the question asked by Skinner.
He thought so many were leaving he might be able to sneak out un noticed
he totally got away with it. What repercussions can there be?
As the song goes and it applies to Johnson as well ' I've been getting away with it, for all my life '
I blame Nick Clegg for David Cameron.
I blame them both Clegg was Weak and Cameron walked all over him
Clegg has a lot of this on his hands.
Clegg should have aligned with Brown. The Liberals have more in common Labour then the Conservatives.
Bet he won’t give up his seat in the House of Lords and his job for life paid for by the tax payer!
Does that mean he has to give back his Lord title?
No.
He's resigned his position as foreign secretary but keeps his seat in the Lords.
@@stevewebster8527 well they should take it back, he only got it so he could be "parachuted" in to try and bail out Sunak!
Jacob Rees-Mogg is a clear example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. But, Camaron is indeed the real villain of Brexit. The enabler of the likes of Farage and Johnson.
Murdoch and his ilk need to be held accountable for Brexit as well. It didn't happen in a vacuum.
I blame it all on Cameron and Osborne. Austerity cut deeper and broader and longer than required. It was ideology. A group of Etonians excited to cosplay as thatcher. It fuelled Brexit as JOB described, Warwick Uni studies drew the link, and broke our systems just before Covid. He failed with levelling up, left us more inequitable than ever and ruined growth. There was no focus on energy security, no focus on safety, and a morally abhorrent increase in morbidity and mortality in the NHS throughout their tenure. The apex of this is the decisions C&O made from 2010 onwards.
There is never a mention of the role Russian trolls had in pushing Brexit over the line. Putin must still have a laugh about it.
lobby Labour to release the papers and give us the full details.
I wonder how much Russian trolling was going on during the French election pushing the far right agenda.
Is your tin-foil hat too tight for you ?
@@EarthWatcher736 Looks like you've been spending too much time looking at the ground, Earthwatcher. Never heard of hybrid warfare?
David Trotters Cameron 😂
I remember his 'Hug a hoodie' slogan - truly a man in touch with the everyman...
Has he pay all his due taxes and from the money they put away on offsite accounts?