‘I was told I had a gay car!’: Have ‘culture wars’ got out of hand? | LBC callers
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- 00:00 - Caller Lil says former Tory MP Danny Kruger 'exemplifies the diversionary tactic' of culture wars
05:56 - Caller Matt says he felt 'sick to his stomach' after a Reform candidate described autistic people as 'vegetables'
09:22 - Caller Eugene recalls a time where his car was described as 'gay'
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I’m autistic and can confirm that I am not a vegetable. If I were a vegetable I would be a carrot.
The only way to end the culture wars is for Labour to drastically improve the material conditions of living for large proportions of Uk society. They must drastically reduce inequality in UK society.
I have an autism diagnosis as well, I think I agree that I would be a carrot too, especially a nice crunchy raw one.
I'm ADHD and I'd like to be a beetroot
Exactly. Can't blame the country's major problems on an outgroup if the problems aren't there anymore.
I like carrots.
Rob Schneider is a carrot
It isn't a diversion tactic. These people are seriously nasty. The culture war stuff is them with the mask off.
Those doing the distracting are those driving it from the top and behind the scenes with huge amounts of money. Their goal is personal enrichment and power.
The vile people are those supporting.
Probably a bit of both, mate
@@icedreamer9629 100%
Back in the 90s and 2000s no one had a problem but the left has now stoked up the diversion when it wasn't even there.
It can be, of people are afraid and angry at the immigrants, the LGBTQ folk and others they aren't usually looking at the growing wealth inequality, the corruption in politics and the rich using it to get richer at the expense of everyone else.
It's not diversity we should be afraid of its Division !
especially during the FA Cup!⚽😁
Diversity brings division, look at political diversity, the far left and right cant come together and work together, they both hate each other. look at culture diversity, there are cultures out there that oppress women and LGBT community. if you want less division you want less diversity as you want more people people on the same page. People with same views same cultures are less divided and will happily get along.
No, it's diversity. Ask the girls in Rochdale and Rotherham
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dont wait for the left to speak about that
@@stephenmurray8559 I would have thought the paedophilia was the bigger issue in the Rochdale case rather than the perpetrators’ ethnicity or religion, but I guess I’m just a big woke sjw like that.
Give me hopeful over hateful any day. 👍
So to be clear you are saying no religion, right?
*deluded
you don't hate anything?
yes the left are full of hate
@@MC-br1gk your attempt at wisdom has failed dismally. Try harder 😅
The ridiculous 'war on woke' causes real harm. I am a married woman with children and grandchildren. Apparently I'm trans because my jaw isn't feminine enougn. The person who asserted this has never even met me but 'the camera doesn't lie'. It's madness and my experience is nowhere near as awful as other people have to endure daily. When I was informed about this, the person who witnessed the assertion thought it was a hoot. I didn't because it crossed my mind that the delusional 'trans spotter' could well be policing women who want to use a public toilet.
Then: trainspotting.🥳
Now: trans-spotting.☹️
This is ultimately the outcome of it. Hateful people use this as a way to attack anyone they feel isn’t fitting their ideal of gender roles. As a trans person myself it’s been baffling to watch the “we can always tell” crowd repeatedly get it wrong and attack others. I suppose they actually can’t always tell…
It’s almost like all of our bodies are different and the way all of us want to express ourselves may vary, too.
They only attack because they lack intelligence.
@@viviaesSarsen Cool. Live your life in peace and security and keep out of spaces that are not for you.
@@peanutbutterbruv go away, hater.
Absolutely baffles me how some people can be offended or scared by diversity! It's utterly ridiculous!
fear of the other, its an ingrained Primate trait.
@@beecee2205 And so easily manipulated. We should focus on those groups that do the manipulation: churches/religions, media and sports teams.
@@beecee2205 But with that you say, that some people have really been eveolved to civilisation state yet?
@@MC-br1gkI'm media. Most media are local - only some are the nauseating tabloid far right lot.
People are more comfortable surrounded by those similar. Unfortunately people see different cultures as divisive.
Suella Braverman and Kemi Badenoch are the British version of Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert.
In that case the male equivalents could be Robert Jenrick for the slippery Matt Gaetz and Lee Anderthal's vulgarian counterpart would be Jim Jordan.
@@clivecosta-correa2102 That's Gym Jordan just so you never forget what he let happen on his watch
Yep, both are absolutely batshit crazy as well 😂🤣👍
It's what happens when you have a political and economic ideology that fails in everything it claims to do and instead of introspection the blame game starts.
It even crept into the SNP with Joanne Cherry and she done exactly what you said when she lost her seat. Spot on.
This is the biggest problem conservatism is facing globally - it's really easy for people to see that it never does what it claims to. It never results in a smaller state, lower taxes, or greater individual wealth. It's simply the ideology of a ruling class, perpetuated by nothing more than their desire to rule.
James imposing radio silence so he can use an app to identify a bird might be the greatest bit he's ever done.
Very wholesome.
A woman aware of her surroundings - not locally, but transatlantic. Steve Bannon, populism coach to Euro authoritarians and then in 2015, Trump, deserves credit for stuffing cultural wedge issues and slogans such as the Göebbelsy "mainstream media" into the echo chamber. That chamber is a lending library to xenophobes and nationalists, be they upstart politicians or the disenfranchised who vote for them. Not an original thought in the mix, but then supporters don't look beyond their own shores to spot the duplication.
Fantastic comment
I tried pointing out the influence of Mr Bannon to my friend's but they voted Reform anyway. Life long Labour voters, voted for an ex-Tory Party Chairman 😅
@@notyourordinarygranIt is just mindblowing how easily many people are bamboozled and then convinced to vote against their own interest.
I was walking through central London the other weekend during Pride - didn't get involved properly but really got a feel of the atmosphere. It's hard to understand why anyone would have a problem with it. Such a great vibe. Anyone who agrees with Braverman's vitriol simply needs to spend time with people within the LGBTQ community or at an event to realise the celebration of it. There is nothing to be threatened by.
No one has a problem with it but it's the same with everything else, if something is overexposed it gets tiresome for the people who are not involved in it. Think coloured police cars, road crossings, council erected flags everywhere etc etc, there's no need for it.
@@user-yb9ww6lv7j Sounds like you do have a problem with it. Why do those things bother you so much? There is a point about hollow platitudes coming from governments and corporations. But that is a separate argument and not the one Braverman and her ilk are making.
@@1porter The community can do what they like, I have no problem with that, It's when companies, establishments, governments are joining in with it when they don't do it for 100s of other issues. Braverman isn't against this, she is against the extremists of the group, who we know have taken it too far and is now following an ideology.
~[cant be a man cause he does not smoke the same cigarettes as me] 😂
You lot are never satisfied! 😜
I can’t believe people are falling out over something that has zero effect on their personal life, whilst struggling to pay their bills or getting a Doctor’s appointment 😂
It is the "look a squirrel" tactic and sadly it works too often and people easily get bamboozled.
Distraction, distraction
Danny Kruger, Freddie's more evil brother!
Or Prue Leith’s half baked son……
As for the guy who called autistic people vegetables, that´s my opinion of Reform voters. Compare what the average Reform voter can do with Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton or Ludwig Van Beethoven, all people who would be considered on the spectrum today.
Well, the first two were experts in their field so would have posed a threat to modern populist dogma. As for Batey, I think you'd find that Ed Sheeran sells more records and is therefore definitively better.
@@Maltloaflegrande I had never heard Sheeran was autistic, checked on Google just now, he´s said to have a lot of the traits but nothing confirmed.
@@Minimmalmythicist He's not autistic as far as I know. I was attempting (possibly not very well) to satirise an attitude taken by less discerning people that sales figures are the main way to validate someone's worth as an artist.
Reform demographic are "low-info" voters, not the sharpest tools in the shed and haters. Mostly white men.
@@Maltloaflegrande He's not autistic he just looks like that via pure english genetics, i know its not nice to look at but oh well
It's attitudes like Danny Kruger that have meant that Britain, once the top of ILGA ratings in Europe back in 2015, has now slumped to 15th place in recent years. ILGA is an organisation that monitors LGBTQ+ rights in countries across the world, based on a country's abilities to protect civil liberties, police hate speech and crime, and recognise autonomy for marginalised groups. This latest iteration of the Conservatives have created a hostile environment towards LGBTQ+ folk, with particular nastiness reserved for the trans and gender divergent communities, and it's cost us our once proud position as a leader in civil rights. We are now behind most of Western and Northern Europe, and what's letting us down this culture war where politicians purposefully misgender trans folk, don't challenge hate crime, and don't overturn cruel legislation that only hurts the most vulnerable in society.
@GiratinaofFury
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This is what ideology does kids.
A person like this will never be satisfied, if you bend over backwards to accommodate you'll be bending the wrong way to them.
Hate crime.... this right here is why there is a culture war... the self entitlement is baffling
People are people. If they are kind, thoughtful, tolerant, contribute to the community, pay their taxes.. that is the basis of the criterea to accept them. Anything else about them is irrelevant. You do find those that have big issues with other differences, usually don't have at least 3 of the aforementioned criterea.
Not irrelevant if women are being threatened and abused
@@user-jy8bt9uz7fYou're making "if" do a lot of heavy lifting there.
Are Deform still a thing except in their empty heads?
Not as empty as those who discriminate against them based on tabloid propaganda
Are the bed-wetting brigade still crying about Reform?! 😏
It's a blackcap. Weirdly I have one singing while I watch this..
There are followers of Jesus and then there are Christians.
True.
TLDR: The car was an Austin Metro
Austin, grrrrrr,.., don't get me started on the Austin Montego
My auntie had one of them.
That's a awesome retro car.
Had one once from new and a cylinder went within a year. They disappeared from the roads pretty quickly.
Ridiculous. The Fiat 500 on the other hand…
Sadly Dunning Kruger is a current Tory MP rather than former
The Germans used to stress kinder, kirche und kuche. Sorry, my German's a bit rusty and the spelling is questionable. It was used to keep women in the home. So the sentiment is alive and kicking in the ranks of the tories.
Your spelling is almost perfect!
"Kinder, Kirche und Küche" which translates to "children, church and kitchen" and as you said was the political slogan to what a woman should only care about.
Greetings from Munich
@@frankstollar8492 i love your umlaut
Divide & concur. Demonize the other. Feed the hate.
It's Wroughton. Grew up there. If Lil is in her early 40s and grew up there then we probably went to school together. It's disappointing that there wasn't more tactical voting as that pillock would have lost :(
Can somebody please explain why being woke is a bad thing? Or should we all hate and be more be devisive.
To me it’s another word for Progressive. The right wing press have dragged the word through the mud.
I certainly can't explain why "woke" is bad, but as someone who has been described as woke for reasons including, but not limited to; driving an EV, having solar panels installed, not liking golf, reading a Richard Osman book, and ordering a vegetarian option at a business lunch; I've had loads of fun asking people who use the word "woke" exactly what they mean by it. Like James says in the video, they simply can't explain, but they do get upset if you keep pushing for an answer! 😂
Personally I'd say it's used to describe anything they're afraid of, with change being the main one.
@@garysmith5025 my guess is a room full of woke people would get on, have fun, and in the majority enjoy life, and whatever the opposite of woke is people would argue how best to bully as many as they could. And more importantly never listen.
Woke is about being aware of social injustice. Ergo the only people who can be opposed to woke are people who enjoy social injustice
@@Coelacanth1 No, woke isn't about social injustice, woke creates more social injustice
Ah, the Danny Kruger effect
Or is that the Freddie Kruger effect?
Everyone drives around in a giant, expensive box on wheels and they are all grey, black or white. Anything else is probably woke.
She was not in the mood for James joke at the start.
Dunning kruger
I was talking about the English language the other day & saying to someone what a grand, expressive communication devise it is. There are so many ways of getting your point across. Thanks United Kingdom.
That's right . Danny Kruger is prime Gammon .
I have nothing to add but theres something mildly hilarious about a 50 year old man saying the words 'overdose on hopium'
Politics of the school bully. Inadequate and aggresive people who we'd have never met or associated with years ago. Sadly they now have technology which allows them to bellow at us all 24/7.
Stereotypes are now culture war.... Ffs..
At this point, they're flinging pasta at the wall and seeing what sticks. It reminds me a lot of the satanic panic back in the 90s. Everything that was different or off was secretly evil and plotting against you and your family. 30 years later, the subject matter changes, but the tactic used remains the same. I suspect every generation will have to face something as ridiculous as this at some point.
Well, it's the attempt of the conservative (USA term) side to turn stereotypes into law
No one ever accused culture warmongers of not being lazy.
Yep like the stereotype of reform voters 🤔
The man was bang on the ball
Danny Kruger 🤮
9:54 The biggest coffee cup ever
Go and read what Goebbels said about "cultural bolshevism" and just replace the historical groups with modern ones, you'll figure it out pretty quick
I was called woke because i have a Prius...
Yeah through driving a Prius, it is assumed you have a care for the environment in which you live.
@@Coelacanth1 Yep there is a large part of the culture war rightwing nuts who see environnementalisme or just caring about the environment as woke... Cause real men polute and drive Ford F-150s apparently...
According to an ex Conservative MP Tony Blair advised Sunak. If he is advising Starmer what is the chance of a change.
You’ve gone and OTHERED the WARBLER!!
"Rowton House" use to mean a homeless persons hostel; many towns had one.
5:06 Garden Warblers are not the most appropriately named of birds; they're rarely seen in gardens.
Farewell Jacob Fleas-Hogg,
Why is it that the least cultured of us are the ones who engage in culture wars the most?
Fear and ignorance.
@@Ricimer671 sure, although I think that the bias is towards ignorance.
I guess it makes sense, people fight and fear what they don't know or have. Have no culture? Great, let's fight culture wars
Yeah the left have got a lot to answer for.
They’re the ones most threatened by it
I love how they halted their interesting conversation to have an interesting tangent on songbirds
Listening to birds chirping - this is great radio.
Culture ways by their very nature are always “out of hand”
"Loving your neighbour" depends entirely on who do you consider to be your neighbour...
I learned that from my catechism when I was four or five “Q. Who is my neighbour? A. Your neighbour is everyone.” If 5 year old me got it then why can’t the gammons?
We all bleed red.
James himself played his part in culture wars…
Yeah, like all the left did.
My grandmother was born in Wroughton, it's a charming village.
Welcome to the Twitching Hour 😂
That is a gigantic mug lol
I’m with you. That other group is full of bad people.
"Austin Metro" is just another word for Mini.
Only James O'Brien and Stephanie Miller make me laugh like this 😃😄🤣👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💯💯💯💯💯💯
Yes.
It was a Blackcap. And well done for cancelling garden warblers! How very dare you!
James. Let her speak more. Please.
Does sound come out of the microphone? I think James got a bit confused there.
Easier to ignore and say nothing than to explain and discuss.
The disdainful condescending way O,Brian talks to and about people he doesn’t agree with inflames these sort of ‘culture wars’
The only people waging the culture wars are on the right
Reminds me of the Inbetweeners lol
Suella de Ville nade me think that Idi Amin had a point.
Bird bird. Bird is the word. Bird bird bird!
Not a lot of hope with Labor as their leader seems to be transphobic himself. 😢
And that’s a bad thing?
He’s a fool for falling Into the trans bathroom nonsense
Starmer’s transphobic? Are you sure about that?
@@cHFBbPhobic of other human beings because they are different is always bad.
Ooh I love a bit of thrush
Yoghurt is the answer.
You should listen to goldfinches; sitting at thr top of thr tree and singing all day.
The irony is that there are quite a few Reform supporters on the spectrum, especially as they provide simplified responses to complex issues, are potentially more vulnerable to manipulative messaging, and are often attracted to fringe beliefs. I say that as someone with ASD
It doesn't count as autism if you never get diagnosed and abuse your spouse like most reform voters.
I vehemently disagree the left has “fallen for it” because we never pay it any serious attention. Making fun of the loonies who see ‘woke’ everywhere isn’t the same as falling for it.
Honestly speaking people, are the U S a net positive or negative to the planet?
"Culture wars" get out of hand because the term is used to avoid discussion about issues that need discussion, and when you ignore something long enough it starts to fester and can get quite nasty.
Best solution is to have an open and honest discussion on any and all issues instead of labeling people you disagree with as monsters.
Expect that they have monstrous opinions, not even remotely backed by fact, so...
There is no "open and honest discussion" to be had with right wingers.
That's the problem, the people pushing the culture wars don't want an open and honest discussion, for if there was the lies will be exposed and that will be the end of the culture wars
The issues that need action are not the ones covered by culture wars. Those are simply deployed as a distraction from the serious issues such as climate, economy and peace.
@@django3422 Climate has been a culture war issue for ages, and peace/war has been one of the biggest this past year. Calling a march for peace on armistice day a hate march for example.
Deffo a bent car
To normal decent people: Woke means you're aware of others and their possibly different upbringing/circumstance as well as our wider contextual environment.
To right wing people: Anything I don't like. eg. This alarm clock is woke or the non stop rain is work or LGBT people are woke. etc etc.
Is it me or has all the sparrows gone. I've not seen any. Black birds as well & starlings. Bird flu?
Plenty of sparrows visiting my garden for food.
Admiring the diversity of opinion in the comments 😂
Important observation 😊
china is an Han ethno state 😅
He still looks like he's in pain, has he not seen a doctor about his piles
Farridge?
4:55
I phoned the DVLA and i was asked if an Ally. I guess my answer was wrong because they refused to help
"If at first you don't succeed, try the same joke again but flip the subjects and don't worry that it still doesn't make sense"
@@django3422 What does not make sense? That in July 23 they removed my driver licence and offered a medical license but I would have had to agree to take a blood test when I drove and for every 2 hours there after and I would also have to have insulin. I have never been given a blood glucose machine nor ever been prescribed insulin. Ever since then I have been trying to get them to overturn their decision and when they realise I am not insulin dependent I still had to buy a driver's license and they refused to refund me for it. When I gain access to the independent assessor they did not contact me to determine what my complaint rather appraised the procedures of the DVLA. They also made a claim that the licence fee was waived, I suppose the credit card statement showing I paid for it would be a lie to you too.
And throughout the process they would email me an encrypted letter attachment but without the requisite to encrypt it. The email would be from a do not reply email. And when you lodge a complaint again. I have had conversations telling me I have a licence then I am told I have not others in which it's being held by. Specialist team but they do not express who that is (medical team who do not take calls).
When you phone them they enquire how my day is and on one occasion. LBGTQQIAAM stuff
If you provide your email I could provide a copy of the correspondence
Btw overturn is code for compensation for the months that I was not legally allowed to drive despite meeting the criteria to do so
@@greamespens1460 Cool story.
@@django3422 I have even written to Steve Baker MP who is the former minister of the DoT. There is also a parliament body but will require my own MP to bring it to their attention.
She doesn't understand the difference between normative and majority
When does conscription start ?
Rich lost.
Imagine that you voted for Danny Kruger, thinking that you voted for Freddy Kruger.
How can future generations be expected to decide the future when they can't even decide if they're a man, woman, or a toaster?
I ❤️ J K Rowling
Ew
She still won't pick you mate
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Its so arrogant isnt it from the likes of O'Brien and friends. We'll proffer highly contentious views on things like trans issues and immigration and diversity but if you challenge it,its on you, youre the one stoking things and creating culture wars. Its genius in its own malevolent way.
Hardly contentious, trans people have been around about as long as culture has
@@kingflynxi9420 I'm telling you mutilating kids is contentious. I for one oppose you on the matter.
Nah Edward,
haha flippin Edward
@@kingflynxi9420Most of these culture wars "issues" are just different pockets of vulnerable people who just want to be left alone to live their lives.
Imagine being so confident and comfortable in your own skin you'd have to be to make the combating of these people your entire lifes work. Sounds pretty miserable to me.
@@Edward-cv2gw that’s not happening.
Demonisation of Leave voters has to be right up there no O'Brien? It's your listeners who have just made things into a war each time.
Are you comparing being a leave voter to being treated as a second class citizen? Maybe you should knock on your head and check if there's anything rattling around in there.
"Demonisation of Leave voters..."
Just say it: Brexit voters.
Thank about what you have just said 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
You mean as apart from the demonisation of 'Remoaners' at the time?
Unlike the demonisation of 'Project Fear' and 'Remoaners'? Smh.