Uncle Dane and Jontohil2 talk about engineer and spy for 2 hours
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- #TF2 #teamfortress2 #spy
...well it went on for more than 2 hours but you get the point.
Obviously thanks to @UncleDane for joining me in this.
0:00 Intro
0:38 Podcast
Engineer video:
• TF2: Spy Psychology - ...
Scrapped intro/lines:
• Spy Psychology - Engin...
That video that Uncle Dane played:
• Glorb - The Bottom 2 (...
That clip of subway surfers I used:
• I Hit This Clip in Sub...
Song used in intro:
Bowser's Fury - Pounce Bounce Isle
Discord Server: / discord
Subscribe: / @jontohil2
Twitter: / jontohil2 - Hry
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Not expecting this video to do super well, but I thought it’d compliment the previous one nicely, I held onto it for a good few days just to let the last one settle.
This is the type of thing I like to see different mains talking about the relationship between their classes and stuff.
but 2 hours is crazy
Spychology podcast. (Idea)
@Jontohil2 talks to a different class main every episode
@@basicgamer2914 Then watch it on 3x speed! I'm currently doing that, and it'll only take me like 40 minutes. Also, are you so attention span starved that you can't listen to a podcast? It's just normal length for a podcast.
Great vid, I would love to see you play Deep Rock!
“It’s my sleepover, so I get to choose the movie!“
It's better than a generic horror movie
Only two choices:
Spy podcast or emisis Blu
@@Therealsyzoth when the emesis is blu
@@Therealsyzoth watch both.
Emesis Blue will be a little bit shorter (1h 47m, if i'm right)
Is the engie counterpart to "spy has a gun" that one part of lazypurple's how it feels to play engineer
"I have a shotgun!"
I _HAVE_ A _SHOTGUN_ !
engineer gaming here, and today is 1967, and I have a shotgun! Haha, let me prove it…
I *have* a *shotgun!*
In the video Jon spy did on Spy Vs Engie, he gor Unkle Dane to say "Engineer has a Gun"
@FourByteBurger how... how did you italicize..?
"How do you know these things?"
"I sometimes play Team Fortress 2, and sometimes I play the spy"
When you finally realize you don't *need* to jump at literally every little chance you see and instead be patient and pick your targets, can change your perspective on things lmao.
juan.sanchez2008 is a certified expert
Kunai spies peacefully leaving after I pump 200,000 damage into him
(I foolishly forgot to tell the gibus heavy with vc off to turn around)
yup, its like that sometimes
Rare footage of a spy main and an engineer main meeting neutrally without shouting slurs/attacking eachother
Spies are infuriating for engineers but you gotta be That Guy to not admit they got you good when they get you good.
However we do have our Heated Gamer Moments (tm) when three minutes of work are destroyed in two seconds BECAUSE I FORGOT TO TURN AROUND WHILE THE SOLDIER MEDIC COMBO WAS HARASSING MY BUILDINGS.
:)
And both realizing that they both have guns.
@@minibotas9496 spaah creepin' around here
We’re spying out some tactics to engi-near saving TF2
Bars
Fire
Farm boy charm and a megaton yield.
1:45:38 missed opportunity to say "Spy is about causing problems, Engineer is about solving practical problems."
For instance
How am i gonna stop an ol mean mother hubber from tearing me a structurally superfluous back hole?
1:14:50
Dane: "Its hard for me to imagine people cheering hearing someone talk about their favourite weapon"
*Me when YER is mentioned*
also Jonto saying he will make a YER video gives me life
baby face's blaster mentioned
red tape recorder mentioned
stock shotgun mentioned
0:24 damn he read me like a book, I guess that is expected from an actual good spy player.
This is a interesting podcast to listen! Talking about TF2, Engineer and Spy class and there different skill is good to talk about. (and among within the community too)
"glorb - the bottom" didn't expect to read that today
Was literally just looking for a video to put on in the background, the timing on this couldn’t have been better
my favorite dane bit is him making jonto just say the dumb joke he said Again and totally halting conversation until he does its so fucking funny
Yeah lmao, he's such a damn troll lmao
I got a lucid dream of a spy and a engineer talking, WTH ?
They got in your dreams before you even watched the video...
Just clicked, and I’m already gonna love the two best tf2ubers for 2 hours
Dan whipping out 'The bottom 2' out of fucking nowhere jump scared me so hard
Woah the manns guide has competition in the world of tf2 podcast
It's interesting how hero shooters later on introduced some characters based on the engineer and spy archetypes (like Barik and Torbjorn for the first, Skye and Sombra) for the second
But they are always limited to a single turret and becoming invisible, never getting as deep as the TF2 original characters :)
They really tried with Sombra, and I think she actually came pretty close to being a good example of a good spy style character, but that game is so heavily focused around the meta that you just don't get to see her all that much.
@@Introbulusfrom what ive heard they made her much nore aggresive in ow2
@@joltenx1014 Which I find really sad, now afaik she's basically just another generic mobile DPS that happens to have a small amount of CC and can hack healthpacks
@@TrixterTheFemboy As someone who played Overwatch, I can tell you that Sombra was MISERABLE to play against. Turns out that having a character whose main function is to turn off abilities in an ability-based game is a terrible idea.
@@jackhudner3804 I played the original Overwatch myself, and yeah it fuckin' sucked. There's so much they coulda done with a hacker utility character, and they chose to make the most annoying, if at least unique, debuff they could.
I didn't comment this on the original video but when Dane was talking about how he disagreed on sapping the dispenser being low priority, I couldn't agree more. As an Engie main, it's even more annoying having the dispenser down than a sentry due to it being the metal supplier.
Plus it makes players group and play around you more, and since they are either healing or replenishing ammo, they can act as an extra set of eyes against spies while waiting. Heavys, Pyros, and Demos especially.
Also you two talking about how customisable loadouts are really makes me think of Pokemon. Like you can have a general idea of what they are capable of but can blindside you with the Frontier Justice or a random super effective coverage move. Or just have a completely niche loadout/moveset.
I really, really appreciate your definition of 'class based shooter' vs. 'hero shooter' because it drills down to something I was struggling to put into words. This video is just generally really insightful!
where that?
I think the best way to summarize the vibes of this video is: big Uncle vibes from Dane, excited Nephew vibes from Jonto
I love listenin to uncle danes rambles, and hearing you two chat about a game I'm so eager to learn more about has been scratching the tf2 podcast itch i never knew i had.
You know, one of my favorite things to do in TF2 is load into Turbine select Spy, sneak into the enemy’s intel room and when theirs a turtling engineer in the I just mess with them with the cloak and dagger, and it’s actually not even that bad a way to train cloaked movement, plus it’s really funny especially If their new players, and I implore you to try it it.
As someone who has been the engineer in this situation... this is a very effective strategy.
"Needa dispensah here!!!"
@@the-dn3zw I actually love spamming voice lines like that.
I do this but on 2fort
@@lucas_br9592 That’s fun but I find that with how many pillars and how open Turbine is its funner to weave around.
"Podcast down!"
Get tunnel
1:30:00 I remember seeing a fan concept where the Knight became a distinct class/character separate from the Demoman. While a nice concept, the cool part about the Demo is that you can mix and match the weapons of both.
You can use the Katana on the stock demoman, or you can have the targe just for its resistances and go for pipes- or cannonballs- only playstyle.
4 weeks...
But, whenever I'm playing solider or demo the katana is almost always my choice of melee. It's not uncommon for me to go on a 3+ kill streak with the katana because some lacky walked into me.
Fun fact: the prinny machete, the true all class melee reskin doesn't even have a backstab animation. Not only this is the only way spy can get fake random crits, but also the only way to get them in uncle topia.
Doctor: you got 2 hours
Me:
2:27:43
@@not_arab. lets just pretend like it counts for 2 hours
@@Speedster428 I know it's late but mind if I ask you something?
you ever have bad dreams?
@@not_arab. so tell me about it
i paid too much attention that i started noticing the same clips over again
14:20 this frontier game jonto talks about where your team actually manages to listen and coordinate this super sneaky stealth last push is like my engineer wet dream
i just realised how much smaller the hands of the spy are
I’m glad that you mentioned DRG. I’d like you to make a video about it.
This is gonna be the best 2 hours if my life
We need to talk with Pyro main
*voice communication is not available for this account*
Man i will never tire of hearing the endless complexities of tf2
Engineer has a teleporter?
No, wait...
Uncle Dane the Engie Main
Dane dane dane dane
@@MikleThe1st Uncle Dane the Engine Main
Engineering rules!
Nuncle Bane the menji gains
dane nye the engie guy
Life is good, I sit down with my Caniac Combo, no slaw extra toast, ready to watch a CZcams video with my meal. Lo’ and behold I have been given a bountiful harvest of a video. Thank you so much for sponsoring my dinner
15:39 we all came at the same time
Jontohill2
A Tf2 podcast I think is a legit thing I’d listen to lol there’s an untapped market here
31:40 it is genuinely insane how much damage a close range pyro can do. for instance, my method for killing scouts is to scorch a bit, airblast back, and immediately switch to the flare gun. Flare crits are 90 damage, and drop scouts relatively fast. Ive also noticed that heavies *CAN* be dispatched of with enough care, though distance is more favored in that situation
I think the deadringer would be better if you had to manually feign instead of rewarding the spy when you shoot at him.
So just team fortress classic spy
@@NormalGuy985no because it leaves a body
@@goodboi3319 the tfc spy also leaves a body
Now this is the kind of content i subscribed for, i love hearing podcasts while i'm doing mindless work.
Oh boy two socially awkward individuals talking for two hours, my favorite!
your spy psychology gideos are what got me into tf2 so i think you did a pretty good job
This was really great! If you can get Dane back on again (or any other TF2bers) I would love to hear another episode
Would love to see more of this podcast kinda thing.
I did not expect the guy in subway surfers to start cranking 90s
POV: Your two older cousins corner you at the family gathering
Jontohil: *deep philosophical rambling*
Dane: "Wait... how you know that?!1?
40:09
"No one's gonna say 'Oh! Dispenser down, push in' "
I actually do say this, with only a hint of irony.
It's funny at first but it genuinely reminds the team that objectives are won through attrition, and victories (even ones that small) snowball into a genuine advantage when exploited.
It reminds you that the enemy is gradually getting weaker, and anyone who is avoiding the objective push in favor of DMing might group up to focus down weaker players.
This was such a good video, I loved all the whole thing which I watched
It's surprising that I only discovered your channel through this podcast. Guess I wasn't keeping up with tf2 community for the last couple years.
I really enjoyed this. I don't know if it would be a regular thing, but hearing you talk with other TF2 CZcamsrs (or other CZcamsrs in general) would be a fun format.
If only this just slowly became unhinged rambling as the gameplay got more chaotic
The ending was fun and actually unexpected. Thanks for the video , it was good to watch it over a week while eating.
this is crazy, i mean i saw the collab last video but this is neat.
For some reason, CZcams recommended me the members-only version of this video after I watched this one. I'm not even a member...
Anyway, video was nice to listen to in the background while waiting for Vegas Pro to do things. Very cool.
I just watched previous video, and I couldn't focus on work, because it was better to watch instead of listening, and now I find that!
thank you for having this, it got me through finals. what a ride that jumpscare was from dane when you went afk, too, that genuinely got me.
loving the bit compression
20 minutes in and Uncle Dan sounds like he doesn't give 2 shits about anything being said lol. I'm sure it gets better but funny none the less
That’s because the other guy is constantly interrupting him to talk about how great he is at Spy. It’s exhausting as a listener, let alone actually being part of the conversation.
Time to grab the headphones!
We need more discussion podcasts and roundtables with big TFtubers
This is great. Never knew i needed just dane chatting
I need a whole podcast of ppl talking about TF2 from different perspectives.
ok so i was playing smash while listening to this, and i swear just hearing about yall talking about the game so analytically i think legit just made me play better there. Cause then I was actually thinking about what I was gonna do and adapting to whoever I was fighting. Thanks
Really loved this, hope to see more of these 1 on 1 podcasts. The talk about hero shooters producing the same interactions over and over again really summed up my thoughts on Overwatch. Removing CC in OW2 amplified this problem so much, used to main mei with 180 hours on her and it was so fun figuring out how to get out of a situation. When she could still freeze, you would be up in the enemy's face all the time, now her wall has so little use because it's so much harder to survive in a fight. At least OW2 becoming a monotonous click on the heads game got me back into TF2.
I get such whiplash when you mention Minecraft mapmaking you're like two people in my mind
I fall asleep listening to this podcast, and I wake to an image of a toilet with music in the background.
chill spychology to listen to while you sleep/study
A podcast for 2 straight hours, great :)
cant wait for episode 2 of the podcast /j
Next you should do: "Spy main plays Scout for 7 days"
After listening to whole video I can say. I liked listening to talk of you two.
one of the videos of all time, that's for sure
1:07:05 woah I think you actually have a pretty good point here. TF2 was my main game for years but I discovered that learning fighting game characters (mainly in Guilty Gear Strive) gave me a similar amount of satisfaction to learning classes in TF2. I also really enjoy playing Noita for its secrets and wand building tech. All these games have really complex mechanics on the surface but after you do a little research you get a feel for the game
Spy just needs the ability to manually do a reload animation while disguised. Would help the mechanic so much
They can
@@Jontohil2 I mean with a button press not the fairly janky "Reload your revolver after having pre shot it thing" that we can do.
They fact that we can redneck it right now is why I know its a good feature, I just wish it was an intentional one.
God I love podcast style media. This was a Godsend at work
Great video, I liked the part where a giant octopus attacked the stream (I haven't watched any of it yet)
while i don't main spy, i do enjoy the spy videos as they have helped me get better when i do decide to play the class, i can't wait for the rest of the series, also good podcast thanks
This reminds me of the good old days when ArraySeven would upload- and he did his podcast-like episodes with Uncle Dane. Never thought I'd see stuff like it again
You need to do more of these.
it'd be neat if spy had a cloakwatch that disguises him as whoever he shoots to synergise with the enforcer
listening to this while at the emergemcy room, taking quite a while
Maybe giving spy a ping system? Hell be able to mark a building or person, and it will appear as an icon through walls for his team
There was an unused spy gun that did this. But the concept was scrapped
Ankle Dan and (SPY HAS A) Gan man.
Finally something too sleep to
guys will see this and say "hell yea"
spy is so incredibly unique that the closest equivalent i can think of is the infiltrator from Planetside 2, which does not have the disguise mechanic, and instead of having a sapper can switch enemy interactibles to be on their own team, but otherwise has that cloak and dagger aspect to it (also a sniper sometimes)
2 hour long podcast? Oh boy!
I could listen to this guy for hours
1:11:10 your point about new player tutorials is SO real, as a new player in 2024 i found it so difficult to find jargon-free stuff that treats you as an actual *new player* and not someone whose version of “new” is “30 hours on a class”
This is the first time i heard a spy main and an engineer main talk to eachother calmly.
Cool. I am engi main and I learned a lot of stuff here thx uncle Dane
I always found the spy vs engineer matchup interesting because both classes are made to be a giant fucking nuisance to each other and its something i have never seen before. I have never seen 2 enemies that are both perfect at foiling each others plans
I love the SFM render in the foreground here! What did you use to get the microphones? If I remember properly, the blueprints are just stock tf_movies items, right?
I never knew I needed this, but apparently I did a 5:30 in the morning.
I love when my favorite CZcamsrs Uncle Jontohil and Dane2 collab
this was really entertaining to listen to
i thought it was sorta funny how the first hour was mostly you speaking