Uncovered MAJOR Problems with this 1957 Autocar Truck!!!

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2021
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  • @wudchk
    @wudchk Před 3 lety +509

    Dang, should have cracked open that transmission on the west coast. Would have solved their drought issue.

  • @nfarnell1
    @nfarnell1 Před 3 lety +18

    Some advice from a transmission rebuilder, The thinnest piece of steel in that transmission is the bearing race separators. They are the thing the rust will kill first . That is the stamped steel rings that keep the rollers and balls in the bearings separated equally distant from each other. That distance is critical to the life of the bearing, a transmission rusted like yours is going to fail if you do not replace those bearings.

    • @nevillegoddard4966
      @nevillegoddard4966 Před 2 lety +4

      Neil that sounds like some very wise words. I hope Matt reads them!

  • @bradfordgalbraith594
    @bradfordgalbraith594 Před 3 lety +4

    Glad to see you using a cresent wrench in the proper direction. Will round off less nuts that way.

  • @donhemenway8947
    @donhemenway8947 Před rokem +8

    for a one man band you are amazing wish there was more of our younger generation had his work ethics

  • @jimliras313
    @jimliras313 Před 3 lety +81

    Whenever Matt cracks out the Kroil you can smell it through the screen

    • @bdr7557
      @bdr7557 Před 3 lety +4

      The Kroil and the old gear oil both

  • @N1RKW
    @N1RKW Před 3 lety +115

    I'm guessing that the rusty "patina" look is less popular among those of us who live in the rust belt. Personally, I don't care for it. I'd much rather see that beautiful old truck looking all nice and pretty again with no visible rust.

    • @ApolloTheDerg
      @ApolloTheDerg Před 3 lety +6

      It’s kinda growing on me for this rig, but moreso the paint condition and the 10’ rule. Get the same color on fresh and it’s perfect.

    • @PickupsAreNotTrucks
      @PickupsAreNotTrucks Před 3 lety +10

      Agreed, some things look cool with a patina, but when everything you own has rust… it’d sure be nice to have something shiny!

    • @awkwarddude
      @awkwarddude Před 3 lety +10

      Patina is nothing but rust working its destruction. I don't care for it either having grown up NW of Pittsburgh in the rust belt, 6 years in Youngstown in the 60s in college. Rust is rust by any other name. Treat it, cut it out, paint it! My take.

    • @grantm6514
      @grantm6514 Před 3 lety +4

      @@awkwarddude It depends a lot on where you live. I've lived in places where raw steel just takes on a smooth dark-chocolate color and stays like that for decades without further change. Where I live now bubbling paint is a sure sign there'll be structural holes in the near future.

    • @N1RKW
      @N1RKW Před 3 lety +7

      @@grantm6514 - That's pretty much what I was saying. In places where rust is a color choice rather than a sign that your beloved vehicle is quickly turning into a pile of rust flakes, I can understand why "patina" is a popular choice. In areas like mine, where the roads are basically sheets of liquid rock salt for 5 months out of the year, we tend to consider rust to be a form of automotive cancer.

  • @bennapier9260
    @bennapier9260 Před 3 lety +7

    Here's something I've had to learn the hard way. When working on old vehicles and equipment. Make sure the fill plug will come out before you pull the drain plug

  • @heartattackjack9349
    @heartattackjack9349 Před 2 lety +4

    With all that rot, it wouldn't be a surprise that water penetrated the cab, and followed things downward. Once you fix that cab, and get the transmission sealed back up, after rebuilding it, you'll have a good truck again. Man, I do envy you a bit. All that work, and not giving up, that will equal a truck you can say is really yours.

  • @danhard8440
    @danhard8440 Před 3 lety +182

    brilliant idea with the diesel and drill pump its a mobile parts washer

    • @greglammers9905
      @greglammers9905 Před 3 lety +5

      I agree. Brilliant

    • @brucehodges7889
      @brucehodges7889 Před 3 lety +7

      Those gears must've been smiling, getting out of that crud and getting rinsed off

    • @gmoney9588
      @gmoney9588 Před 3 lety +5

      I don’t know if diesel fuel is harmful or not to bearing surfaces , heard something of it . But will say I agree with the many who have and continue to have success at cleaning up old gear oil or cleaning up,corrosion that it works ! In addition to adding a block heater , diesel fuel strongly contributed to helping break loose a stuck engine in addition to other penetrant . Compressed air via a quick disconnect compression tester helped a great deal but the diesel did wonders . Will say that as much fuel that sat in the cylinders for so long at several cycles , over the cam shaft of an in line six cylinder ( was worried the fuel dripping past the rings would infiltrate the cam bearings ) didn’t harm the engine . Hasn’t been on the road long but I don’t see any problems caused by the diesel fuel . Of course I did make every effort to flush the system ( marvel mystery oil ) from the valve springs to the oiling system . Yes , it worked for me .

    • @GridIndustries
      @GridIndustries Před 3 lety +8

      I'm searching Amazon for one of those as we speak

    • @roycepruett5862
      @roycepruett5862 Před 3 lety +2

      I was thinking, A air powered sprayer with naphtha to reach up high in and around the gears & sides.

  • @billsimpson604
    @billsimpson604 Před 3 lety +174

    In a flood once? That was a LOT of water for just condensation, even after decades.

    • @schnutchie
      @schnutchie Před 3 lety +18

      I was thinkin the same thing. May have been flooded?

    • @quagmiredavis4117
      @quagmiredavis4117 Před 3 lety +13

      @@schnutchie noo its a rare water cooled option on autocar... lmao

    • @billloffler8637
      @billloffler8637 Před 3 lety +3

      Definitely high water

    • @quagmiredavis4117
      @quagmiredavis4117 Před 3 lety +10

      @@billloffler8637 its the rare water cooled transmission option... a 30 dollar option in 1957

    • @owentimo
      @owentimo Před 3 lety +6

      Easton, MD is basically at sea level, so quite possible.

  • @patrickmoodabe9728
    @patrickmoodabe9728 Před 2 lety +3

    I’m loving your channel Matt. So satisfying changing out all the oils!! & now you know the provenance!!💪💪👏👏👍👍

  • @OrbiterElectronics
    @OrbiterElectronics Před 3 lety +3

    At 21:14 you can see that helical gear is as a slight angle compared to the adjacent straight cut gear, which either indicates a broken shaft or collapsed bearing. Perhaps those needle bearings you showed later on?

  • @TaralgaBushAdventure
    @TaralgaBushAdventure Před 3 lety +180

    maybe that oil filter housing was just 90 degrees out - might normally face toward radiator to drain easier?

    • @gokartracers
      @gokartracers Před 3 lety +1

      I thought the same thing but saw the different length bolts holding the housing.

    • @munched55
      @munched55 Před 3 lety +5

      *first thing I thought of. Glad I checked the comments before looking like an idiot. :P*

    • @gokartracers
      @gokartracers Před 3 lety

      I reviewed the video. It may be possible to rotate that filter case 90*. What do you think? 16:00

    • @crzy11000
      @crzy11000 Před 3 lety +7

      @@gokartracers It looks to me like the flange is of equal thickness so the bolt length difference must be because of the upper flange. Hopefully you can just turn it 90 degrees.

    • @gokartracers
      @gokartracers Před 3 lety +2

      @@crzy11000 I think you are correct sir.

  • @dudenamedclem
    @dudenamedclem Před 3 lety +88

    That drain reminded me of the aftermath of spicy Mexican night

    • @alcopower5710
      @alcopower5710 Před 3 lety +6

      Ouch lol

    • @ConstantlyDamaged
      @ConstantlyDamaged Před 3 lety +27

      Hopefully without the chewed up needle bearings.

    • @DieselCreek
      @DieselCreek  Před 3 lety +12

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @gmoney9588
      @gmoney9588 Před 3 lety +9

      Oh lord ! I’m sure the clean up of this trans flush was easier and less painful . We all pay in the end .

  • @purtis99
    @purtis99 Před 3 lety +1

    Used AeroKroil for 35 yrs in the aircraft business...Great stuff

  • @the.porter.productions
    @the.porter.productions Před 3 lety +3

    Greetings from the Ohio Porters. Good to see this rig again!🤩 I like your garage…a breezeway, cover, clean floor, some natural lighting, but what about electricity? Can’t knock it though. I wonder if it was in a flood for a bit or even driven through some high water. Doesn’t take much sometimes. Others have thought the same things I’m sure. The thing is, and you probably wouldn’t have thought about checking the fluids when you first got her, someone didn’t have pride in the ride back then! 😞 Good thing to flush those housings out! 😳 I can say this for sure…In spite of the rough life it had previously, it was made to take a beating, and a beating it took! 🧐 Patina is nice for some things I guess, but this truck DESERVES to be repaired and admired! 🥰 Now to what level you take it is up to you, but you’re gonna be the one spending time in this ride. And, if you’re gonna do it, do it right for you to enjoy and show it off. Not necessarily a restoration. This truck is a reflection of you and some people may not think about it that way, but I sure do. I have a friend who has had some old Autocars. He may have some cabs or miscellaneous parts around that would work for you. I shall check…(paulporter51@yahoo.com) is my email. Keep bringing updates on this rig! Thanks for sharing. 🥰

  • @theskepticalnegativist1004
    @theskepticalnegativist1004 Před 3 lety +29

    The autocar, vintage lowboy, and the unit on top. MINT!!

  • @Peter_Schiavo
    @Peter_Schiavo Před 3 lety +179

    When it's running right, it's "my" Autocar. When it's a PITA, it's "this" Autocar. LoL.

    • @faerieSAALE
      @faerieSAALE Před 3 lety +2

      LOL - that's what my Studebakers are right now - all three are epic "PITA" due to electrical issues.

    • @gregculverwell
      @gregculverwell Před 3 lety +4

      Reminds me of my wife. When things are going well she says 'my' son and when they mess up she says 'your' son.

  • @markbehr88
    @markbehr88 Před 2 lety +3

    Great to see you getting into it. I hope you keep that colour. It really suits it.

  • @Will45ACP
    @Will45ACP Před 3 lety +18

    Oh and yay for Wifey running some equipment! Hope she enjoys it

  • @Pinzpilot101
    @Pinzpilot101 Před 3 lety +61

    With old gearboxes. if you can rig up some way of pressure spraying, spray Gasoline or Diesel in there, fill the gearbox up with diesel and then drain, do it a couple of times.....remember nothing is wasted, because you can strain it and use it as fuel later it will pull out any nasty iron filings and steel that are lurking in the box...fill with new oil, job done. Note I wrote this before I watched the whole vid.

    • @phatboizbackyardkustomz9006
      @phatboizbackyardkustomz9006 Před 3 lety +14

      and let it set a week or two before you drain it then flush it a couple of times, then it will get most of the crap out of most of the areas.

    • @JamesCouch777
      @JamesCouch777 Před 3 lety +3

      Yep, it's worth a shot 👍

    • @yatespeterm
      @yatespeterm Před 3 lety +1

      I wonder if that works for automatic gearboxes too? . Would it affect the torque converter perhaps? .. thanks.

    • @Pinzpilot101
      @Pinzpilot101 Před 3 lety +1

      @@yatespeterm I think that you would have to separate the two....or wash both out, what the hell let them dry and fill with fresh fluid.

  • @BVA5485
    @BVA5485 Před 3 lety +71

    Please kick the Autocar content into high gear 😍I've been here since the first video with it!

    • @Tom-In-Ga
      @Tom-In-Ga Před 3 lety +7

      Me to, brother. I'm an old retired trucker and used to have an old single axle A-Car like this one. I'm dying to see this one get fixed up. Brings back memories of a more simple truckin' time, but a bit more rougher around the edges.

    • @gmoney9588
      @gmoney9588 Před 3 lety +9

      @@Tom-In-Ga
      Just want you , and every guy ( and gal ) who drove these rigs that had no power steering steering or just power assist , no a/c , air over hydraulic brakes or straight air , manual fifth wheel , no air shifted transmissions , lousy heat and not so comfortable seats and suspension that felt like you were sitting on a steel beam , you all got my respect . The only overdrive you knew was fourth gear on a quad box . A and B model Mack’s , Autocar , Brockway , White , Peterbuilt , KW and many more that I grew up seeing . Didn’t drive them but loved like so many of us kids did . There aren’t a lot of folks left today or even up and coming that even know what it was like to drive a mile in your shoes . America only exists because of those who fought overseas and those who got the job done on our soil too . I pray your memories will always be remembered and never be forgotten . Anyone who don’t appreciate it , don’t let the door hit ya on the way out .

    • @charlesangell_bulmtl
      @charlesangell_bulmtl Před 3 lety +1

      @@Tom-In-Ga Might have been a little rough, but its functionality....👍👍
      Beats this expensive and doubtful bunch of bells and whistles they've substituted.....They're raping the consumer....

  • @bobcats905
    @bobcats905 Před 3 lety +200

    The logging industry here in north Western Ontario Canada used a lot of Autocars, I will head out tomorrow and search our area for a cab for you.

    • @82f100swb
      @82f100swb Před 3 lety +11

      I don't think I have seen any iron that old that's still saveable up here. Not sure where exactly you are at though, I know there seems to be more T-Bay east than over here in the west.

    • @scotts.2624
      @scotts.2624 Před 3 lety +7

      I think it would have to come from the desert southwest. Any thing from the North is going to be a rust bucket.

    • @bobcats905
      @bobcats905 Před 3 lety +15

      @@scotts.2624 just for your information they don’t use salt on bush roads, drivers prefer hard packed snow to slushy snow. Many of the old bush trucks are in remarkable shape for the year they are.

    • @jackrichards1863
      @jackrichards1863 Před 3 lety +5

      @@bobcats905 If you find him a better cab you'll be a proper restoration hero Bob. Where I'm from, Matt has a pretty solid piece of metal there easily worth rewelding into proper shape? So I for one, hope you do find something for this Autocar project!

    • @mortsmailbox
      @mortsmailbox Před 3 lety +1

      @@scotts.2624 - And International was notorious for their poor drip edge designs. I've got several IH products in my driveway in various stages of road cancer.

  • @LS-zj7kv
    @LS-zj7kv Před rokem +8

    I too, am very impressed with your ability to dig in and completely access and determine what and where needs fixin...and unlimited patience is what makes it happen. If there were many more like you out there, America would be a greater Nation. Thank you.

  • @heistand0070
    @heistand0070 Před 3 lety +90

    Check the vents on the Transmissions. If they're not venting properly the condensation will build up over years. I've seen it in car axles a lot.

    • @danaitch3880
      @danaitch3880 Před 3 lety +3

      Good point. I'm sitting here scratching my head as to how all that water got in there, then I decided to read the comments for an answer. TY.

    • @warrenmichael918
      @warrenmichael918 Před 3 lety +8

      Im not sure all that is from condensation, that was gallons! I know condensation will build up a bunch but ive never seen that much water from just condensation! wow

    • @heistand0070
      @heistand0070 Před 3 lety +2

      @@warrenmichael918 I've seen a quart out of a Nissan pickup truck that had the vent tube clogged. It's never been in a puddle.

    • @warrenmichael918
      @warrenmichael918 Před 3 lety +2

      @@heistand0070 I know water seems to accumulate a bunch in places people cant imagine, you think that several gallons is possible like what he found? I guess its possible considering the many many years this thing has been sitting.

    • @charlesangell_bulmtl
      @charlesangell_bulmtl Před 3 lety +1

      My guess ... rain, many years worth. I'm not buying THAT MUCH condensation.

  • @mattsutherland120
    @mattsutherland120 Před 3 lety +120

    Good evening from Australia mate… was getting mighty bored this Saturday evening, diesel creek to the rescue.

    • @Pinzpilot101
      @Pinzpilot101 Před 3 lety +5

      I remember reading that in the early days of long-distance trucking Australia, it was common for the truckers themselves to fit extra gearboxes in the drive line, to either up or lower the ratios and give themselves more gears to play with.

    • @cmans79tr7
      @cmans79tr7 Před 3 lety +2

      G'day Matt. quarter to nine (AM) here in New Jersey, USA (later on I'll figure out what time it is 'down under'). Going to be a beautiful day here today. Yeah, i saw the Autocar in the thumbnail and had to click. I remember a sand and gravel company near my hometown using Autocars exclusively, and i recall how impressively large they were, and they were always covered in dust, which means they were always working.

    • @mattsutherland120
      @mattsutherland120 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Pinzpilot101 definitely heard the same stories from a couple ol’ truckies too. Usually swapping the top 2 gears in order to bypass speed restrictor.

    • @mattsutherland120
      @mattsutherland120 Před 3 lety +2

      @@cmans79tr7 almost 11pm Saturday night here.

    • @Pinzpilot101
      @Pinzpilot101 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mattsutherland120 The stories I was reading was that they made some good strong AEC 8 wheelers that could pull the weight, take the punishment of long distance and pull a big trailer, trouble is flat out in top was 25-30 MPH and for long distance Australia style, they needed to go a bit faster than that.

  • @mdouglaswray
    @mdouglaswray Před 3 lety +130

    That was an insane amount of water in the main transmission!! Miracle it didn't crack the casting when it froze. Looking forward to THAT rebuild!

    • @xXturbo86Xx
      @xXturbo86Xx Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah maybe because it was already cracked...

    • @MegaMrspain
      @MegaMrspain Před 3 lety

      @@xXturbo86Xx well if air can get it in somehow and keep condensating on the inside

    • @fuzzybutkus3951
      @fuzzybutkus3951 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MegaMrspain exactly there’s room to move with fluid then that fluid turns to ice like in a pop bottle it locks.

    • @davidmeermans1579
      @davidmeermans1579 Před 2 lety +4

      @@xXturbo86Xx Through normal temperature cycling, the cases "breathe", admitting humid air that then condenses in the case. After many years sitting idle, the water gradually accumulates if the machine is not run enough to heat the oil and drive the water out. It may have been decades since the last oil change and not since run long enough to warm and dry the oil. Machines living outdoors experience significant daily temperature swings.
      I have trivial example of this, a small lantern hanging in a sunny location with a 0.052" vent hole. I use it every other year or so and it is always filled with water. There is no way for rain to get in, I have made sure of that. All I have been able to conclude it that it heats in the sun and as it cools in the evening, it draws in the warm, humid air. If the overnight temperature drops below the dew point, the water comes out. It seems the daily heating is, at least seasonally, unable to drive the water out, so it accumulates.

    • @danielhabberstad
      @danielhabberstad Před 2 lety +1

      Gl 90 hypoid oil

  • @Rick-ir6rv
    @Rick-ir6rv Před 3 lety +4

    Western Star trucks used a version of that cab until 1996 or so. The newer ones are slightly different, but it's basically the same cab. So you should be able to find a replacement cab that will need minimum tweaking to bolt on.

  • @jansmit4628
    @jansmit4628 Před 3 lety +35

    Lesson learned: check/drain/change fluids like oil, refrigerant and fuel before storing new inventory each time.

  • @millerizedatgmail
    @millerizedatgmail Před 3 lety +242

    That's not a transmission, it's a cistern.

    • @millerizedatgmail
      @millerizedatgmail Před 3 lety +11

      Those needles aren't heavy duty stuff, hopefully something like a carrier for a shaft or lever. Of course, I had those as rod bearings in an old chrysler outboard. Good luck.

    • @jurgenkuhlmann9194
      @jurgenkuhlmann9194 Před 3 lety +5

      I know that brake & transmission fluids somehow attract water, so overtime you have SOME water in your system if it's not serviced. But how is it that Matt has about 80% of water in his gearbox? Never seen anything like that before!

    • @dee73
      @dee73 Před 3 lety +20

      I'm going to say it one time this truck was in a flood is how the water got in the internals

    • @millerizedatgmail
      @millerizedatgmail Před 3 lety +2

      @@dee73 Yup. Either that or it doubles as a water tanker.

    • @dee73
      @dee73 Před 3 lety +2

      @@millerizedatgmail yes sir

  • @stanleyflory6702
    @stanleyflory6702 Před 3 lety +3

    I hope you can find a tag#/id# plate for the main transmission, so everyone can start the search to find a replacement! It would be sweet to find a whole donor truck, with the parts you need!

  • @dog8nut
    @dog8nut Před 3 lety +3

    Be VERY careful of those windshields as they were pretty much un-obtainum 20 years ago. Acar had 3 series of those curved windshields each a little taller as the trucks got newer.

  • @michiganmudmechanic
    @michiganmudmechanic Před 3 lety +33

    Are you sure someone put the oil canister back on correctly looks like an even four bolt pattern which means the plug could come out the front or the back whichever place you put it.

  • @spaight711
    @spaight711 Před 3 lety +14

    That's a smart partnership, there. You're exactly the right guy to demonstrate their product.

  • @summerrancher8044
    @summerrancher8044 Před 3 lety +6

    I think I'd fill those transmissions with ATF and drive it around a bit. Then drain and fill with oil. I see you are using some cement mixing tubs for oil collection. They work great. I've been using those for 20 years. I only wish they'd put a small provision on them to pour fluid out better and they'd be perfect.

    • @DieselCreek
      @DieselCreek  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes that’s what I was using. I worn the rim was a bit stiffer allowing you to pickup a bit more weight in the pan without it flexing all over

  • @docgiggles130
    @docgiggles130 Před 3 lety +3

    I love the look of these old trucks. I’ve always wanted an old beauty like this even though I don’t know how to drive them. It would be worth learning for.

  • @snarky_user
    @snarky_user Před 3 lety +73

    Now for the good news: when you're done with this, you'll have an excellent rebuilt transmission AND be the world's expert on Autocar transmissions.

  • @WatchWesWork
    @WatchWesWork Před 3 lety +603

    Ouch! At least there's meatloaf...

    • @jaratt85
      @jaratt85 Před 3 lety +6

      Oh no.. not Meatloaf again! czcams.com/video/C11MzbEcHlw/video.html

    • @joshjablonicky171
      @joshjablonicky171 Před 3 lety +10

      I'm waiting to see you two get together and do anything be really great like the master in The apprentice

    • @joshjablonicky171
      @joshjablonicky171 Před 3 lety +10

      Watch Wes work I got a question now would you put anti-seize on the bolt for the drain pan so it doesn't season to the aluminum.

    • @matthewbrittain2919
      @matthewbrittain2919 Před 3 lety +11

      I reckon you take that gearbox to Wes and let him fix it👍

    • @Military-Museum-LP
      @Military-Museum-LP Před 3 lety +1

      What did WWW have for dinner??

  • @StrangeDuder
    @StrangeDuder Před 3 lety +2

    Hopefully you can find a new cab for this gem. Regarding patina, I don't really care for preserved patina, I like more the patched metal and rattle can painted look. Either way, super cool truck. Maybe save those floor panels as patterns for fabricating new ones.

    • @DieselCreek
      @DieselCreek  Před 3 lety

      We’re gonna do better than rattle can! 👍🏼😎

  • @glennsrailroading
    @glennsrailroading Před rokem +6

    I love old Autocar's. Awesome project and so much fun to see you take on stuff that I'd be afraid to screw up.

  • @JohnTBlock
    @JohnTBlock Před 3 lety +19

    I want to see that Auto-Car get revived. Love old trucks, they need some love back!

  • @greybeard277
    @greybeard277 Před 3 lety +15

    noticed the autocar version of the intro, well done.

  • @victorjeffers1993
    @victorjeffers1993 Před 3 lety +2

    Glad to see you actually checking the trainee an gear boxes an differential most people take it for granted that they are sealed an no reason to check them but I've had experience with old trucks so I know it's important to check

  • @pheels
    @pheels Před 3 lety +2

    Hopefully if you find a donor cab it will also be attached to a transmission.
    It's a set back in the sense it might be hard finding another but if it's repairable you will get around to it

  • @ddelano7408
    @ddelano7408 Před 3 lety +35

    Hi Matt, That was a great way to flush out the gear boxes. With all that water in the tranny you were lucky the case didn't crack. Hopefully the parts you will need to replace are still available. Keep up the great work of keeping these old machines running!

  • @wileycoyotesr8623
    @wileycoyotesr8623 Před 3 lety +51

    I'm very impressed with your dedication, hard work AND your positive can-do attitude.

  • @brandonguillory242
    @brandonguillory242 Před 3 lety +3

    great video MR matt hope you get the autocar back run aging can not wait to see it all done

  • @mattjaxdad8693
    @mattjaxdad8693 Před rokem +2

    Matt, when you find a product like this (drill pump/flush) you should get an Amazon affiliate program and link it. This is something I was thinking about when you drained the sludge and low and behold you found something usable. I will be ordering one of these.

  • @ClintsHobbiesDIY
    @ClintsHobbiesDIY Před 3 lety +32

    The transmission is not a joking matter.
    I hope it is repairable, so you won't have to start searching for a replacement.
    Good luck Matt.

    • @alexcrouse
      @alexcrouse Před 3 lety +4

      I'm hoping due to it's age, any bearing in there is just a Timken catalog part.

    • @ClintsHobbiesDIY
      @ClintsHobbiesDIY Před 3 lety +2

      @@alexcrouse Hopefully so.
      The rust above the oil/water level would be a concern if it was mine.

    • @ionracer24
      @ionracer24 Před 3 lety +1

      They're pretty easy to fix, long as u have a press

    • @ClintsHobbiesDIY
      @ClintsHobbiesDIY Před 3 lety +3

      @@ionracer24 I was surprised the case wasn't busted from the water freezing.

  • @richardmead9225
    @richardmead9225 Před 3 lety +16

    Kroil used to come in a squirt can, the spray stuff was called Aero Kroil.

  • @rickiewilliams1965
    @rickiewilliams1965 Před 3 lety +10

    Can't say for sure about a 1957, but a 1969 White, AutoCar and Diamond Reo all used the same cab...just different front ends. Hopefully this will apply to yours as well and open up the field of possible replacement cabs.

    • @PostUp_Time
      @PostUp_Time Před 2 lety +1

      *Diamond Reos are awesome. We used their Dump Trucks at DPW with Plow Attachment and Salt Spreaders. Straight 6, Gas Engine. Couldnt kill that truck mechanically. We had some real rust buckets and all banged up but they started every morning. Was a sad day when they got rid of them for comfortable GMC Trucks, so called trucks*

  • @darkquixote6077
    @darkquixote6077 Před 3 lety +3

    Please don't keep us waiting to long...love this truck!

  • @WSNO
    @WSNO Před 3 lety +3

    Much love for saving classic trucks!

  • @jacoblewelseam4394
    @jacoblewelseam4394 Před 3 lety +17

    Greetings from the Republic of Cyprus🇨🇾. Great to see a fresh vid from you.

  • @wjgoh653
    @wjgoh653 Před 3 lety

    backyard wrenching geekdom! Nothing more satisfying than to see old parts cleaned and ready for new lube. Those needle bearings are likely from the water expanding the outer race, they dont look too chewed up, so they didnt explode from use.

  • @brandonobaza8610
    @brandonobaza8610 Před 3 lety +4

    Kano Labs (Kroil) also makes an excellent oil based degreaser called Floway. A 5 gallon pail is pretty expensive, but if you filter and reuse it, it would wipe out any gearbox sludge.

  • @ronaldziehlke9720
    @ronaldziehlke9720 Před 3 lety +25

    Holy shit Batman, I've never seen that much water in a transmission!

    • @DieselCreek
      @DieselCreek  Před 3 lety +8

      Me either 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @Porty1119
      @Porty1119 Před 3 lety +3

      Who's the U-Boat commander?!

    • @dailrharris9009
      @dailrharris9009 Před 3 lety +1

      Amazed it didnt freeze crack

    • @soupofpossibilities8537
      @soupofpossibilities8537 Před 3 lety

      @@DieselCreek Flooded would be my guess, as in trans under water. I'd also guess the needle bearings unrelated to the water - they escaped first. I expect you'll figure that out.

  • @googleandyoutubeareevil
    @googleandyoutubeareevil Před 3 lety +3

    Matt, I would suggest getting a 5th Wheel Slick Plate instead of using grease. It's a lot better overall.

  • @kentkirkpatrick7953
    @kentkirkpatrick7953 Před 2 lety

    Was sitting in my crusty 48 Ford while it was raining one day and I watch water stream down around the windshield, onto the dash, THEN directly onto the shifter into the trans... Popped the shifter out to find it full to the brim!!! Truck only sat about 3 years in my driveway, 30 years prior. A quick flush, new fluid and she's good as new doing work now!!! Nature always finds a way to ruin a day.

  • @xozindustries7451
    @xozindustries7451 Před 3 lety +2

    I would close up the two transmissions and fill them with Evaporust, it’s amazing what that stuff can do, after a few days drain it out and at least when you take it apart it will be clean and no rust, it usually frees up all the stuck parts for me also

  • @Smurphenstein
    @Smurphenstein Před 3 lety +6

    On a positive note, flushing out those transmissions with degreaser and a water blaster probably wouldn't do much more harm. 😉 Seriously though, it's good to see someone giving these old trucks some mechanical TLC.

  • @meyou245
    @meyou245 Před 3 lety +5

    I have been using aerokroil for years.
    Trick for rusted bolts: Heat up with a torch and spray Kroil on it. The heat pulls the fluid right in.

  • @albertbeute443
    @albertbeute443 Před 2 lety +2

    Love your videos and work..I agree they need saved. That M172 trailer has a high COG when hauling heavy equipment. I've seen multiple flips with that trailer.

  • @johnsmith-xr6qy
    @johnsmith-xr6qy Před 2 lety

    Sqve the old floor mats for a "pattern" when you come back with a new or replacement mat. Years ago working in a body shop, I learned the hard way never throw away anything until the unit is finished & sold. You never know what you will need and what can't be bought, what needs to be hand made. I like it. Good job.

  • @TF856
    @TF856 Před 3 lety +3

    My dad had a 1959 Chevy dump truck with a 6 cylinder engine and a four-speed transmission with a PTO and a 3-speed brownie transmission right behind it and a two-speed rear axle.
    That truck also had a foot pedal starter right next to the accelerator. And a heater box to heat the cab that was underneath the dashboard on the passenger side. It also had a turn signal mechanism that was attached to the side of the steering column that had a little wheel that would ride on the steering wheel to cancel it out when you straighten the steering wheel. 😁
    I love old machinery and old tools. My favorite tool is my antique North Brothers 1545 so called egg beater drill that I use for a screwdriver and a nut driver. It has two speeds with a 5 position transmission on it.
    And I spent almost 20 years in the clock industry restoring antique clock movements.
    Currently restoring a 1920 Brunswick phonograph. 😁
    I'm glad to see you working your projects that you already own.

    • @ypop417
      @ypop417 Před 3 lety

      And a right arm the size of his leggs LOL

  • @Redsammeh
    @Redsammeh Před 3 lety +16

    You make this stuff look so easy, and I struggle with just my big van haha. Hoping these vintage machines are just easier to work on :D

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull Před 3 lety +3

      They are. These new junkheaps are designed to discourage self repair and third party repair, to discourage keeping them more than a decade or so.

    • @charlesmckinley29
      @charlesmckinley29 Před 3 lety +2

      Almost anything is easier to work on than a van. I think the engineers tried to make the access to everything impossible.

  • @Porty1119
    @Porty1119 Před 3 lety +1

    I've always used more PB Blaster than Kroil, but you nailed it - penetrating oil and brake cleaner are the lifeblood of heavy industry.

  • @richardandrehsen3260
    @richardandrehsen3260 Před 3 lety +2

    Glad to see the truck back on the channel. Excited to see it back on the road soon enough

  • @hllgll4293
    @hllgll4293 Před 2 lety +5

    Well Matt, fun fact: I own and restore a heavy russian 6x6 Ural-4320 offroad truck from the early 1980s, and watching your Autocar videos, I get Déjà vus from time to time. Especially the drivetrain has a lot of small details I know pretty well: The universal joints of the drive shaft, the rectengular maintenance covers of the gearbox (six bolts) are exactly the same, also the 5 speed gearbox itself looks inside and outside quite simular to my YaMZ-204U gearbox, and so on. In fact the russians changed all of it to metric dimentions, so if you have a 3/4 wrench in your hand I know, that would be 19 mm for me. But living in europe, that's actually a big plus.
    Now how does that all come? Allready in the 1930s the soviets had a lot of cooperations with Ford (GAZ-A, GAZ-AA) and Autocar (AMO-2, AMO-3, ZIS-5). During WWII, they got a lot of american made trucks, engines and so on because of lend-lease-act. For example 4-71 and 6-71 Detroits, the Mack L series from the 1940s and US6 Studebakers. That's the way "soviet Autocar parts" came into my world - across the Pacific and Sibiria and some 60, 70 or 80 years.
    I've send you some $ for your project trough PayPal. Being young and having a truck of about the same size in my backyard that needs restoration it's not a whole lot. But I'm proud to help the project out the best I can. Keep on restoring, trucking and filming, we're with you. All the best from Germany to PA, USA.

  • @kapekodbob
    @kapekodbob Před 3 lety +5

    WOW, so much water ! Undaunted, youpush on. Great job.

  • @jennyoreilly5980
    @jennyoreilly5980 Před rokem

    That portable pump you used to flush the sumps reminded me of a portable parts washer. Great idea. Love the video.

  • @Jameson4327
    @Jameson4327 Před 3 lety

    I glad to see working on old girl. Flush the transmission while you have it open. It’s going to take a few years to refurbish the old girl. But what a truck you’ll have at the end. Well done Matt

  • @hackfabrication139
    @hackfabrication139 Před 3 lety +22

    Never a good thing when you can find identifiable metal pieces in the drain pan....

    • @planejet42
      @planejet42 Před 3 lety +11

      Better than unidentifiable pieces….

    • @ram89572
      @ram89572 Před 3 lety +1

      @@planejet42 kinda what i was thinking. Neither is ideal, but at least if you can still tell what they are then maybe they haven't been through the gears enough times to do too much damage

  • @joecummings1260
    @joecummings1260 Před 3 lety +3

    If you're going to use that truck, you're probably best off looking for a donor truck from like the 1980s. Something with like a 350 Cummins 13-speed. Just swap out engine transition rears while you have it apart. I kind of think you're going to be looking at bearing failures all over the place with the transmission and rear that you have. And once the bearings go chances are they take out to gears also

  • @Quacks0
    @Quacks0 Před 3 lety +19

    I happen to LIKE birds' chirpings and twitterings. It creates a nice homey-nature feeling for the whole video. :D

    • @jameslandon4126
      @jameslandon4126 Před 3 lety +1

      You wouldn't if they were living in your rafters and constantly shitting on everything.

    • @lrich8181
      @lrich8181 Před 3 lety +1

      Beats the heck out of canned music!

    • @Quacks0
      @Quacks0 Před 3 lety

      @@jameslandon4126 Ummmmm... true :P

  • @IAmUndersteer
    @IAmUndersteer Před 3 lety +8

    I agree about crescent/adjustable wrenches just being the right tool sometimes. My biggest upgrade in recent years is adding a couple locking (vise-grip style) adjustable wrenches to my toolbox. Absolute game changer. Spin down to size and then lock in place with pressure. Works a treat on the hex on camshafts, tie rods, you name it.

  • @kelomaklms5749
    @kelomaklms5749 Před 3 lety +5

    Looking forward to seeing the body work on the cab. With the transmission repair/pull, pulling the cab, the body work on the cab you will have 3-6 more videos just with that.

  • @justusbar7597
    @justusbar7597 Před 3 lety +8

    Great video! Have been waiting for an Autocar video quite a while. Do you have an idea how many needle bearing are in the transmission? Also fun seeing your wife driving the big loader.

  • @jeffreyplum5259
    @jeffreyplum5259 Před 3 lety

    It is great seeing a lady in the cab of something big. Any near modern controls should not require brute force.. The main and Aux transmissions limit the weight of a single unit. Good Luck!

  • @thepuzzleguy5989
    @thepuzzleguy5989 Před 3 lety

    I had a 1949 Autocar. Love those old trucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @crankysports
    @crankysports Před 3 lety +9

    I’m glad you’re keeping this guy going! Needle bearings in drain pan=bad though...

  • @iamthefatstig
    @iamthefatstig Před 3 lety +5

    Glorious machine. It seems like the classic truck scene is a lot healthier here in the UK than in the States. Steam rallies and classic truck festivals are pretty robust here (or at least they were before Covid). I truly envy your setup, looks like the perfect big boy's playground. Between you, Wes and Mustie1 I get to see things that are rare here and it's great to see them being torn into and sorted out. Keep up the great work! Jim.

  • @eddiepatterson5025
    @eddiepatterson5025 Před 3 lety +1

    Matt if the main transmission is unrepairable you may want to consider to adapt a modern transmission to the Cummins for more highway user friendly. I hope the transmission you have is repairable and to find replacement parts for it.

  • @user-KrackerJack
    @user-KrackerJack Před 3 lety

    I just love it when people tell you what you need to do

  • @catgynt9148
    @catgynt9148 Před 3 lety +42

    Matt, you are an excellent educator. If you ever get tired of rebuilding old iron you ought to transition to teaching at a technical college. Thanks for sharing this video with us. Wishing you and your family a terrific week. Peace brother.

    • @nevillegoddard4966
      @nevillegoddard4966 Před 2 lety +2

      Amen to that! I've learnt a lot from Matt's videos that i've seen so far.

  • @prevost8686
    @prevost8686 Před 3 lety +11

    The only issue that I have with crescent wrenches is that I usually grab a metric one when I needed a SAE one. Then I have to crawl out from under whatever I’m working on to get the right one.

    • @janesmith4017
      @janesmith4017 Před 3 lety +2

      Just use your left hand to switch it from SAE to metric.

    • @jonka1
      @jonka1 Před 3 lety +1

      Here in UK we have dual standard ones that fit everything. Somewhere I have one for coarse threads but I can't find it atm.

  • @MichaelSmith-dg3kr
    @MichaelSmith-dg3kr Před 3 lety

    Matt, a little tip. If you fire that auto car in the winter, put the main trans. in 5th gear, and the aux. in neutral, and warm those puppies up that way.I learned to drive a 5 & 4 in 1969. Keep the faith on that trans, My friend.

  • @25vrd48
    @25vrd48 Před 3 lety +1

    Remove cab , easier access to remove transmission . Awesome idea and safer too . Great videos in the future . .

  • @alsaku33
    @alsaku33 Před 3 lety +8

    Looks just like when I drained the steering clutch housing and transmission sump screen filter in my "field find" JD 450C Dozer...more water than actual fluids...my pinky was in many a bung holes that day ;-)

  • @robertburns3014
    @robertburns3014 Před 3 lety +9

    Well...so it goes with antique iron, lots of "challenges" in terms of bringing back to road worthiness! But, you (and friends) are the man for the job, Matt. I wish I had lots of money to donate toward the restoration because I know it is needed. I will try to come up with something to contribute. Don't give up on her though because I know that one day, with lots of patience and wrench turning you'll be pulling your equipment down the road behind this old girl!

  • @craigroberts5806
    @craigroberts5806 Před 3 lety

    It's just a matter of time before the wife is pulling that trans out! Look forward to all your adventures. It's always a pleasure!

  • @redhankyteddy
    @redhankyteddy Před 2 lety

    i just love you descriptive sounds. who needs words when a perfectly timed grunt will do. Tim Allen made a career of it.

  • @billkirchner7522
    @billkirchner7522 Před 3 lety +25

    Looks like someone drove it out on a frozen lake and it fell through the ice rear end first. Happened to me back in 1960 trying to put sand on a beach with a IH dump truck.

  • @Mark_-jq6wg
    @Mark_-jq6wg Před 3 lety +5

    Damn :( that was a lot of water. My heart sank when I saw them metal pieces. That pump you used was awesome!

  • @williambryant5946
    @williambryant5946 Před 3 lety +1

    The firing order cast into the engine block or whatever its cast into, was really neat and could be very helpful one day when you need to have it. I'm not into keeping the patina of a truck you're planning on using. I say fix it right and make it shinny with plenty of chrome and accessory lighting. Make it a pretty working tractor. Stay well. -Wil 👍

    • @DieselCreek
      @DieselCreek  Před 3 lety +2

      I’m not into patina on this truck either this is rot there’s a difference! I’m not big on chrome but I want it to look nice and presentable!

  • @williamdeegan7840
    @williamdeegan7840 Před 3 lety

    AUTOCARS ARE AWESOME. I just went to the Antique Truck Show in Macungie Pennsylvania. Great show. Your truck would fit right in. Autocars were well represented. Good luck with her.

  • @nelsonmediacreations
    @nelsonmediacreations Před 3 lety +6

    Hey Matt, I have zero experience with big machinery but I am loving watching your channel. Yes, please keep going on the Autocar I find it fascinating!

  • @Will45ACP
    @Will45ACP Před 3 lety +4

    Live and learn Matt..don't beat yourself up too much! Thanks for keeping us all involved 👍

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael Před 5 měsíci +1

    Looks like Chocolate Pudding coming out that auxiliary transmission 😂😮 11:40 @Diesel Creek

  • @cesargarcia2746
    @cesargarcia2746 Před 3 lety

    Don't give up she will be a good looking truck when she's is all done.