Did Lucy Letby benefit from white privilege? - 'Only you and Dr Shola are talking about it!'
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2023
- 'The consultant has not once raised Lucy Letby's skin colour as the issue, nobody has, apart from you!'
Andrew Pierce argues with an activist over whether 'white privilege' was a factor in Lucy Letby's crimes going undiscovered for so long.
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This is getting beyond a joke. Stop giving these Racists a platform
Just how low can these people sink
sub-sahara ...theyll sink the country
There no low they won't go.
This is how disgusting this woman is, using the deaths of babies to try and score points.
Her life and position built on the enslaving and murder of Africans by her family ancestors
She's a racist.
What she’s saying is Letby was protected and allowed to continue murdering kids because of her race. I don’t like Dr Shola but I think in this case she has a point
This prejudiced reporter? Oh, yes, absolutely!
@@chriswayneevans would you care to prove that? You could just as easily say if Letby had been an ethnic minority they would have been scared to tackle her. Both points are utterly ridiculous and disengenous. The guest makes money out of race baiting.
Why do you give these extremists a platform, why not read out their statements for our amusement.
That is GB news entire raison d’etre….to give extremists a platform
this negro cant help it! hes as bad as that Dr shola racist
Completely agree. I am so sick of these race baiters, particularly that ghastly shouty shola.
It's for the rage clicks, nothing more.
But doesn't it enforce freedom of speech? He's entitled to his opinion (one I don't agree with) but unless you hear it, how can you argue against it with logic and truth?
What a time to pick to push your own agenda,it's creepy and shows nothing but contempt for the victims,horrible.
Thank you for challenging this racist.
You're more upset at them voicing their truth than you are at the killer nurse
This is what you invited into your country.
The road you're on leads to civil war.@@TheLouisa1985
This guy would rather have the white serial baby-killers.
You're right. We need more 'innocent' looking people like Lucy Letby.
This is beyond ridiculous….the grift never ends
Another Femi ? Good grief !
Determined to make everything about skin colour ... why ?
Money, money, money.
Apparently Femi translates to "Bell End"
@@Buster_Piles 😂
Wow!This woman has a massive chip on her shoulders
She has a chip on her shoulders instead of a head.
Oh for crying out loud....🙄
I find it amazing that despite the extensive free education Dr Shola has had from this country, she remains clueless.
You folks are in denial she definitely was allowed to kill more babies because she was a white woman 👩 your lost
How do know of her education has been free
@@BruceWayne-he6hb well judging by your sentence structure i’d assume you received your grading from the same Nigerian prince as Shola?😂
That is racist for you to assume she had a free education.
@@andyetheridge You must have received that same free education considering the grammar and punctuation used in your sentence. You Pale-colored people are funny... The truth will set you free. The media saying a serial murderer should not look like this murderer is an indication of the truth.
The original complaint may have been made by an Indian doctor, but other complaints by white doctors were also ignored. He is just attempting to shoehorn evidence of systemic racism in where it doesn't fit.
It's always very selective with these guys. He even fudges the case of proportionality in relation to the grooming gangs.
@@intboom Yes, he rolled his eyes at that one didn't he.
Allowing grifters a platform on the back of this horrendous crime is disgusting GB News
It's a bad enough case without people trying to twist things away from the murders to suit their own agendas.
Wtf it’s got nothing to do with race creed 😮
Shut up , you're know it's true
found the self hating white guilt@@samanthabarry5817
White privellage she definitely benefited from i…. Let's not pretend !
It's sickening that these race batters jump on tragedies like this. How does she know a black nurse would have been reported straight away? In these times the opposite might be true
What she had was systemic privilege. And no a black or brown nurse really wouldn't be sacked because anyone and everyone is scared to sack them due to diversity quotas and various other systemic rules.
Exactly. If anyone has privilege in this country based on race, it ain't white people. You can prove that by white women getting raped by pakistani Muslim men and the police turning a blind eye precisely because of the races of the victims and the perpetrators.
I just wish these guys would stop trying to talk for all people of colour like myself. Thay never want to talk about self reliance or personal responsibility for issues of concern.
This debate is inappropriate. Why are GB news even discussing it. Really low. Just stop it. We must give full respect to the families.
Totally inappropriate, I agree with you 💯!
This disrespectful prat, has been allowed to turn the attention away from the real victims here, to push his racist, white supremacy claptrap !
I can’t believe he’s been allowed a platform to hijack such a sensitive subject.
I’m not interested in this whining prick , I’ve been bored out my brains with him before , it’s not the first time he’s been on GB News whingeing.
He knows where the airports are if he doesn’t like living here!
My heart and sympathies go out to the poor families in this awful case., they are the priority here .
These grifters are getting tiresome. Soon enough, when they start to speak, people will roll their eyes and walk away.
What's the point in having him on, we all know what he's going to say. He's a Nigerian Hausa, why don't you ask him about the Fulani who are butchering Christians over there ? Put him on the bloody spot. Oh, and ask him what acting he's done apart from the film in 2020. I've done more acting than that, but I don't call myself an actor. And for "activist" read "Perennial whinger".
😂😂😂😂😂 you can't handle the truth. You people need to look into ur soul if you have one.
@@figueiredocelia39 Yeah, because Africa is such a beacon of kindness and achievement.
Don't waste my time with your race envy.
@captaincabbage-ny9lu envy of devils. Nope. You guys are a disgrace to the human race. Evil is your strongest sentiment.
Every finks waysist 😢 feel sorry for me 😢 give us some more free stuff !!!!
Don't talk rubbish, Femi...
Impossible all he does is talk rubbish
Please stop giving these people any attention! When anyone can jump on these utterly horrific events to push their own agenda are the lowest of the low! My god do these people have no limits!
It's the Left Wing idiots who push their sick Agenda.
GBN really does like promoting Rice Baiters and War Criminals.
He's no actor, filmmaker, or writer 🤣
3:00 he has 0 mention for the division it causes because thats his goal. To create division not just between the races but between what he deems "enemies"
The politicising of the murder of little babies is as bad as the crime itself. Period.
I’m white im English, I’m not free or privileged, and it’s offensive lol for her to claim we are,
These people need to be arrested by the police for racism.
If there is a problem it's not because of Race
Kith and Kin first, two different groups will compete for dominance.
He gets a free pass to put down your race ................. could you do the same against his ?
All race baiters should remember .....families are grieving
Well said!
@@johnkitching2248 for calling out these baiting media .
You think he cares?
You allowed a racist activist to call you stupid and to call all white people racist ?
You allowed her to say that the rape “ gangs” were not overwhelmingly Pakistani Muslims and allowed her to say there were white rape gangs WHY did you let her off the hook ?
Because it's true you gammon.
In the middle of this debate are deceased babies and grieving parents, enough please.
How low can these race baitors go
Do they have no self respect at all.
No low they won't go and no
This dude is doing nothing but creating more division. What a shame.
The division is why Lucy got away with it…this guys just pointing out the elephant in the room
@@Obatala_Vibez Disagree. As do most people, but you're entitled to your view.
When knife wielding gangs are treated like babies, he complains about a nurse
if she were black we would not have heard of her for fear of upsetting like we did in Rotherham
Why is it we only get all this rubbish from the Afro/Carribean s, There are many Indian/Pakistani and far eastern asian people in the UK but you very rarely hear complaints from them, why do Afro/carribean folks seem to think every thing that happens is because of racism towards them? How does he know that the management team wasnt all black people? Neither him or dr shola dont they are purely guessing. Race grifting because they can with no fear of consequences.
Deport
Is anyone thinking about the victims ? The pain and suffering they are going through ? Shola clearly isnt - and GB news should not even be reporting her foul assertion.
Well then nobody should have an opinion.
So it's wrong to talk about major factors that led this white killer to get away with it for so long? Wouldn't you want to prevent/reduce that?
This has to do with NHS not doing there job not race .
Whether people accept it or not. If an ethnic minority nurse had been involved the complaints would have been listened to.
Ethnic minority nurses are more likely to be disciplined; suspended; referred to the NMC or sacked than white nurses. It's a known fact.
Ironically issues doesn't affect the promotion of the indigenous nurse like it would the black nurse.
As an exnurse I should know as I've been in that situation.
If an ethnic minority nurse had been involved and she had shown the same characteristics as Letby, the complaints wouldn't have been listened to. Colleagues were in disbelief that Letby could be guilty because she was hard-working, well-liked, competent, enthusiastic and keen to learn. It's difficult for people to square that perception with Letby's cunning, manipulativeness and capacity to keep up the facade that she did.
Thank you for speaking facts.
@@jaystevens1965 you're absolutely wrong and i know it for a fact.
*You are trying to use logic in a GB News comment section.*
the managers see themselves in Lucy Letby, she is one of them, they are all white so is the chief executive. You don’t know what black and brown folks goes through in the nhs. She was allowed to do what she did because she’s white and doesn’t fit the billl
This is bullshit 😂 If Lucy was black the same thing would've happened. Getting to the point that these people are getting paranoid
Letby was also in a relationship with a married doctor, I assume from the same unit, who warned her she was being investigated. How much weight and credibility was given to that person, a senior colleague, protecting Letby. And Letby also ingratiated herself with a senior nurse, part of the executive board, going out for coffee whilst under suspension and this person has now also left the hospital Trust. Letby was clever and manipulative, the Trust was prepared to put her forward for a Master’s degree. It wasn’t the colour of her skin, but rather her ability to mask and have colleagues believe in “nice Lucy” (a term used by a consultant paediatrician when Letby was under suspicion).
If that's the case then every kid in the UK caught with a knife has black privelage !
How?
So the guys who stabbed Stephen Lawrence had black privilege? What about the killer of Sam Cook in Liverpool's Empire Club. I guess he had black privilege too right? Idiotic thinking.
Learn to read smart arse . "If that's the case " nice try
If she had been a black or brown nurse, management would have been terrified of of making any sort of complaint, in case they were accused of being racist. What an absolute disaster this has been for the families involved, and has nothing whatsoever to do with race.
Good thing the black and brown nurses aren't as evil as the white baby-killer.
I completely agree. People are saying "white women in this country are privileged." Were they privileged when pakistani muslkm men were raping them and the police actively turned a blind eye precicely because of their race.
Nonsence 😂
It’s not nonsense complaining about black people invites the charge of racism , it is happening all the time they get a big payout
@@whitelines3097 not true, ones lady took patient card to buy drink you remember made national headline, black carer mishandled patient made news with cctv recording. I am afraid ones they so keen to proove guilt if not white and through out to humuliate aswell. İn this case they did not even bother to investigate untill more babies died sadly.
Who were the victim's? What ethnicity was the familiez
I've said before and I'll say it now . If this country is so bad then there is always places like Zimbabwe. They would love the like of the clueless grifters
These people are always looking for there 5 minuets of fame, or a payday.
There is absolutely a pretty apparent difference in how Letby has been portrayed in the media as opposed to say, how Rose West or Beverley Allett, was portrayed.. I don't recall in either of those cases, the media going round publishing photos of either of their "innocent childhoods" or the hand-wringing about coming from a "good family", and the likes, they were both pretty much portrayed as the monsters they were right off the bat
But, of course, Letby fits more into the aspirational Middle Class archetype that the likes of The Mail and The Express like to push as the ideal...
So, maybe less a race thing, more a class thing....
The reality is the opposite would be true if Letby had been black she would still be in post.
Imagine this is about babies that were killed by this lady but yet again it's about race,just don't understand it ,it's ridiculous 😡
I'm happy, I now know of two loonies called Femi
How dare you, the media, try to politicise something like this. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
Not this guy again 🤦🏼
Well done Andrew and Bev. Brilliant as usual.
Babies have died parents are grieving families have been torn apart and you people want to make it about race shame on you it's about parents and their broken hearts and empty arms
Both points are not mutually exclusive. If we can believe the police were afraid to prosecute asian men who were grooming then why is it hard to believe the medical board were reluctant to sack or reprimand a white woman? Both points are valid. The problem is that potentially there is a lack of duty to bring someone to justice because of their skin colour regardless of what side of the fence they sit on. That's the bigger issue.
It's not a valid point. No one went, "oh shit, she's white! There'll be a race war if we arrest her." However, the police actively protected pakistani muslim men because they admitted they were scared of being called racists and causing trouble with pakistani communities. Letby was protected because the hospital didn't want to admit anyone was doing anything wrong. Those men were protected because they were pakistani and their victims were white girls.
*You are trying to use logic in a GB News comment section.*
@@haza123b4😂😂Lord, the number of unhinged people. In this case, I would sanction the use of blackface so that the "anti-racists" who are protesting so much can get an inkling of being a black professional in certain settings.
re: the grooming gang figures, he doesn't seem to understand the disproportionality by an ethnic minority.
Hate calling them grooming gangs. Call them what they are. Pedophile gangs/rings. Grooming gang sounds like a men's club where men groom their beards.
Shameful allegations , cheap and disgusting
What about black privilege. The man united player who was charged and man united wanted him to return but to credit of a woman's fanclub they put presure on club to ask him to leave wworks both ways
Mason greenwood is Miced race he has a white parent he is not Black
He's just as much white as he is black
So sick of all these racism talk.
No, but she benefited from nurse privilege (who have a strong union)
Whyvdo you give these people airtime it's pretty clear what their agenda is
Oh for Gods sake, Here we go, the race card again. This case is horrific enough as it is. No need to escalate it to suit your own narrative.
How about letting the babies parents mourn without making it about race ?
Its hard to say if this was a racist problem but in my experience parents are not given a voice unless they push really hard. In 1983 my 10 year old son was diagnosed with a Burkitt's Lymphoma. A treatable tumour. During treatment he sustained a serious brain injury and I was never able to find out the truth. I have my suspicians. I was a 37 year old working class woman with nobody to back me up. I did get a solicitor to look at it but was told that notes were missing. My son is almost 50 now and I'm still coping with the fall out. He son lost his short term memory. He suffered frequent fits which caused him to spin round, jump, fall, then run. I never felt personally supported by anybody in the medical profession. I couldn't work for years so don't have a decent pension. My three year old son was badly affected. Luckily my 13 year old daughter was able to carry on with her life more normally. In today's world there is information out there but I am sure it is still difficult, particularly if you are working class and don't have the contacts, whatever your race.
This is not a race issue its a Good verses Evil issue
The babys and the parents are the victims
Femi and the other Femi get lost
Not that old chestnut again. We are sick of hearing about poor old blacks.
Oy fella your on the TV put a t shirt on at least 😂😂
And take the ray bans off 😂
How dare these people exploit murdered babies.
I am "absolutely" sick and tired of all these claims, it's gone beyond ridiculous and just has almost everyone sighing with.... "oh shut the f@#k up" ... it's worn out.
Dr Shola is fast becoming one of my favourite UK based comedians, just beaten by Diane Abacus. The guy interviewed here is just as funny.. I must look up more of his work 🤭
I’m tired of it all now. Stay the victims because that’s what they want.
Always the racist card.. Sick of it..
No she didn't, absolutely not.She benefited from NHS corruption.GET A LIFE
HE'S AN ACTOR NEVER SEEN HIM IN ANYTHING HOPE I NEVER DO.
Ok but why does this bloke have a smirk on his face??... People are grieving and outraged. Then a bunch of Blacks jump in to draw attention to their cause. How does one manage to make this about themselves?!!... Ok I'm over that stupid behaviour. Even if there were truth in his or Shola's statement, TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE attitude!!! Yuck
Ohhhh goody the race card again zzzzzzz🙄🙄
Stop treating people differently and we’ll stop
Why do these people have to shoehorn there extremist views onto such a dreadful thing
She's not psychopathic, she has Munchausen syndrome. Therefore, it's irrelevant to consider her appearance as not typical of the profile of a psychopath. Having said that, the psychopath is that normal unsuspecting character in the community.
We don't know for sure that it's Munchausens. It could be that, or psychopathy (the mementoes she collected would suggest so), or possibly both.
Please leave the diagnosing to professionals. Thank you.
Munchausen syndrome is when you harm yourself for attention..There was no evidence she done that?
Why is this even a conversation.
This is about the babies and parents of the babies!
This Nylander stole his name from the Scandis. That's not a black name!!!!
Enough already this worlds going to sh"t with all these actavits
Dr Shola is bang on the money.
They make me sick, they feelings are hurt, 💯 facts,
This Dr and the guy on your show need to leave our great country , they are just creating trouble and devision
Yeh, and F Oph Femi.
If Dr Shipman had been coloured he would have been caught earlier also?
Why is BLM taking the light off the person who has done this crime? The white black brown does not matter shame on you
It's quite the skill to make everything about yourself or your ideology.
Shame on them, while the babies are still fresh in their graves 😢
Race/Ethnic Group for 1990
White 80.3% population / 82% serialk
Black 12.1% population /15% serialkillers
Hispanic 9% population /2,5% serialkillers
For example the USA 74% of the murderers were from the United States, where
85 % male, 8 % female, 7% undetermined in the cases in which the offender was still at large.
Not every countries have a police that can catch a serial killer ( No serial killers in africa unlikely) and one would have to look at the relation of percentage of the population to percentage of the serial killers for each ethnicitie not just the absolut numbers.
Among the prolific serial killers in the world Luis Alfredo Garavito, Pedro Alonzo Lopez, and Daniel Camargo Barbosa (South America) Between them, they were convicted of 329 murders, but it's believed that the number they committed is over 750.
shola has a valid point you think a black nurse or an Asian nurse that had several complaints against them would have been still in a job i think not
Go look
So what about Ted Bundy or Israel Keyes, but what about Wayne Williams 😂😂😂
It works both ways. If Mother Teresa had done it, noone would believe it
What utter rubbish. If you don’t like this country leave it.
Evil has no particular gender race or class. It’s evil because it’s evil. This has been a wake up call to everyone !!
Stop milking it and move on.