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Never thought I'd see a Weiss Schwarz video on your channel! If you plan to do another video on the game, feel free to shoot me a message been playing for about 10 years now both in English and Japanese and can provide you with information about the game, the competitive scene, and secondary market. Hope to see more random Weiss Schwarz content from you soon Rudy and thanks for the content!
I love Persona but not many of the other franchises represented in the game... How easy would it be to make like... a cube using just the persona set?
I wish I was closer to people who played.
Is it possible to play with japanese cards if you don't know what they say?
Love when Rudy casually throws in pieces of his high end game collection.
I'm glad you did a video on this! I'm a huge Persona fan myself (Persona 5 easily one of the best games last year - one of the best rpgs ever made imo) and I was really interested in this product...even tho I dont really play or cover Weiss Schwarz.
I wanted to get into this game but, when I was asking a guy about it at Origins last year. The guy running the booth was kind of a jerk so I just went elsewhere and bought more Magic cards. Kind of a shame the game looks interesting.
Rudy loves Persona 1 & 2 as much as I do?! And here I was thinking I was going CRAZY to neglect playing 3 & 4. I was also thinking about getting into WhiteBlack (see: Weiss Schwartz,) so I'm very glad you made this video. Thanks a ton, Rudy, you are awesome!
I recently bought product from Rudy's magic and more store on ebay and in a message I joked about him throwing in a card for free 'cause it's probably worth like three fiddy anyway (the card is Splendid Genesis and I expect Rudy to know it's priceless and probably worth an actual imperial fucktonne of cash). Rudy didn't seem to catch that which led me to believe Rudy a) has a warehouse full of goblins doing his bidding and is the goblin king, how would a warehouse-goblin know the worth of a legendary card? OR b) someone else runs Alpha Investments for real and Rudy is a prisoner used to make these videos because of his good looks and charm! Rudy: If you're held prisoner blink three times and say the code-phrase "Homelands is my favorite set!" and we'll mount a rescue-operation!
i call it waifu warz
4 RR in a box, 1 of each color. You get either a SP, RRR,or SR 1 per box.
Oh man this is exciting. Weiss has quickly become my second favourite card game (behind MTG) since I started playing in 2013. If you do any more videos on this game I will eagerly be watching all of them :D ...might even become a patron to take advantage of any deals on Weiss boxes/cases you might do, since my friends and I buy a lottttt of this game when we go in on something lol
FYI Rudy don't know if it was a troll or not when you were talking about the back of the pack, but SEGA bought Altus a few years back.
Huge Persona and SMT fans too ! I like when you opened stuff that aren't MTG sometimes, kinda refreshing
1st pack joker RR, noise
Rudy uploading a Weiss Schwarz video.
This definitely is the BEST timeline
Climax card... giggity.
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Wow, Rudy cracks the most expensive RR in his first pack. How lucky!
Weiß has a psuedo-ranmdom distribution. When you opened the RRR climax in the first pack, it was guaranteed that you were not going to open an SP. That being said, you opened a RRR in your box and a SR, so the box was above average
Actually he pulled the most expensive rr in the pack. Jokers tend to be 30-40 bucks
It's almost scary how good Rudy is.
cool stuff. Interesting note. Bushi Road also owns New Japan Pro Wrestling and works with Ring of Honor in the States. NJPW/RoH are the first in 53 years to hold a wrestling event at MSG (besides WWF/E) and sold it out in like 9 hours! WWE watch out, RoH is owned by Sinclair Broadcasting a 2 BILLION dollar company!
Rudy, it doesn't lock you into a color. To play a card that is above level 0 you must have a single card of that card in your current damage OR in your level cards. For those that don't know once you take your 7th damage, you pick one of those 7 cards put it into your level zone and the rest go to the discard pile. So the level zone locks in a color, so you can play that color freely for the rest of the game.
Nice ! Rudy knows about the game mechanics - I know fairly little about anime but this seems like a great game
Dood, you pulled almost everything I did except you pulled the Joker and Arsene!! TvT
I'm a bit jelly
Hey Rudy, thank you so much for doing this video!
Weiss as you said is so very interesting, because there's standard play, like not unlike Magic or Pokemon. And then there's Neo-standard, which is very much like cycle/block limited play, except you can take that deck and fight other decks not necessarily from the same cycle. This essentially is a "waifu war" game mode where you take your favorite set, build a deck around your favorite character(s) and go bash someone else's waifu in.
Neo-standard is where I live. I play pure Cinderella Girls, the Japanese version as the English game only released the 1st booster. It is a really popular series in Japan and the cards can get very expensive because the set is considered one of the most capable (the Cinderella Girls set have a banlist in that language) because while their Level 3 cards didn't have a lot of complicated effects, it was so ridiculously consistent that it won more often in a very random game environment.
I know you were hoping for something epic, but once you pulled the SR, THE SHOW'S OVER. (snirk) SPs, SSPs, RRRs, SRRs, they all share the same slot as the SR in a box, so if you pulled an SR, you know that's it for the box. But even so, Weiss cards, even in higher rarities can be really cheap in comparison even if said card was central to the Persona set. Persona cards tend to be cheaper overall, even the rare ones. In contrast, a signed Level 3 card from my chosen set tops at something like 12800 yen, and when the set was new and unbanned that card hit something like 32800yen in the secondary market.
The value of Weiss is very dependent on player personal preferences. What I value as a 100 dollar card in Cinderella Girls would be worth absolutely nothing to a Love Live player (and vice versa, Cinderella Girls and Love Live players are pretty much openly hostile to one another haha). Likewise, cards of men tend to value lower than female. Heck, cards of popular characters with great art on the paper AND voiced by famous Japanese voice actresses are beyond-explicably expensive; case in point, again, an ancient 3/2 that did essentially nothing in the modern Weiss environment, still values at 100000+ yen when gem mint just because it had a printed signature of an evergreen super popular voice actress. Crazy right, when the card doesn't even play a voice clip!!
Weiss cards very rarely even keep their value. In fact, they keep depreciating over time. Neo-standard is the main way the game is played so as a set becomes old, it often fades from general memory and unpopular series cards don't value as highly as a modern popular series.
Weiss is also very prone to power-creep; Music decks in Weiss have incredible synergy and with each set these Music type cards just kept getting more and more of them. As such, Music-type sets are notorious for having historically shifted the game from mostly fun flavorful effects to the current meta of utility cards printed every new set which makes a lot of decks play like each other. (Woe be to you if your set was less popular and came with less utility). As a result, older sets not only suffer from popularity degradation, they some times have less tools than a newer set to deal damage and exert control over their own deck.
All this makes Weiss a TERRIBLE investment vehicle, which is why I was really surprised to see it appear here. My friend is a large Persona fan and has several Persona decks, so he's pretty happy to see his pet set here.
Rudy you just made me smile real wide! I love Weiss and this video made me very happy!
Also, after watching the box opening, you hit pretty well. The RR's are essentially your Mythic Rares, while SR, RRR, and SP are all varying levels of foils. SR, RRR, and SP are all just shinier versions of existing cards and don't have any unique cards themselves. In a case, you'll hit about 16 SR, 6 RRR, and 3-4 SP (It's a set ratio within each release, but it differs from release to release based on how many cards of each rarity there are)
eubreaux All recent Japanese sets have had either 4 RR 2 SR+ or 5 RR 1 SR+. In a case of 18 boxes, it ends up being 10 boxes with the 5 RR 1 SR+ split and 8 boxes with the 4 RR 2 SR+ split.
They stopped the solid 4 and 1 thing a LONG time ago.
Even in 2016, the 4 and 1 was definitely not solid. To Love Ru, a set released in autumn 2015 (along with plenty of other sets from that time and even back to late 2013-early 2014) had multiple combinations of foils that were possible and could leave you with more than 1 foil per box. Almost every set from 2014-2015 and after did not replace the regular foil when you got an SP, so that was already 2. Many of them also had boxes where you could pull both an SR and RRR in the same box.
He did pull a joker card, which are 30-40 bucks. SO he definitely broke even
I'm so hyped.
So awesome you did a Weiss Schwarz video!
There’s a group at my LGS that plays this, they taught me how to play one day, it’s a weird game but kinda fun!
Rudy, if you loved the old games, you should 100% play Persona 5 if you find time. It's become my favorite game ever. That red and black art style is everywhere, the game oozes with style, and so much care was put into every aspect of making it.
Also normally when I remember opening boxes you generally got one of SP, SR or RRR per box. But I could be wrong as you opnened RRR and an SR
Holy shit, Rudy. First Secret of Evermore, now Atlus and SMT? Man you're fucking cool.
The reason you never hit anything good in off products is because your not tucked into their pocket like you are with wizards! I can only imagine how good the boxes you delete the videos of and keep for yourself are.
My floppy taco becomes a hard shell taco any time I watch your videos. keep up the great work.
I am a huge fan of the SMT/Persona series. Didn't know this was a thing. Selling all my floppy tacos to buy cases of these. Thanks Rudy.
Rudy, I would've never expected you to like SMT/Persona. Awesome stuff.
Persona 5 was an absolute fantastic game. I love the music...I'm very interested in checking this out...
Love WS! Do a quick video of opening the 6 pack of the trial decks. One of the 6 holds a signature card! That way you can show the viewers what they look like.
Awsome seeing you talking about this game .I wish it was more popular here in the state's .I have one deck for SAO that I won threw toonami back when they did a contest for it .
I've never played Magic but I love Rudy's videos!
It's also worth noting for anyone interested in Weiss that unlike Magic (where all the different languages can be played together), Japanese and English Weiss Schwarz are totally different formats. The best Magic equivalent comparison would be that Japanese is Modern, and English is Standard.
Totally different card pools (many sets aren't out in English, some cards from released sets aren't included, or are changed (nerfed) when ported to English), different ban lists, and therefore different metagames.
Since the deck construction rule everyone uses is Neo-Standard, it's something like having different Block-Constructed decks play against each other. So if you play a Persona deck (like what Rudy opened here) you can build your deck from the Persona sets, and you can play it against someone who plays a deck built from all the Attack on Titan sets, for example. The Magic equivalent would be like having a Zendikar-block (but including the newer block) deck vs an Innistrad (including the newer block) one.
Weiss is a lot of fun, and cheaper than Magic (usually). I don't want to be a downer, but I should add that Bushiroad (or whoever they contract out localization to) make a ton of translation mistakes, so if you play English, be prepared to read their (lengthy) errata page.
"Weiss Schwarz" is German and means "White Black"
In fairness it should be pointed out that, since we are a very grumpy, negative people, we naturally reverse the order of these two words. "SchwarzWeiß" would roll more natural from real german tongues.
Not sure if someone said it already, the ratios are pretty consistent per set, in the case of Persona 5, you get either 4 RRs and 2 SP/RRR/SR or 5 RRs and 1 SP/RRR/SR.
In the case of your box, you got the RR Joker which is the most expensive card in the set and i think the most expensive SR in the set, so you did pretty well tbh
I adore persona 5. You should really give it some time rudy. Its really fun. Also the collectors edition is really really nice. Seeing these cards makes me want to look into Weiss Schwarz. May the Schwarz be with you.
The first two US Personas were so good. Great choice Rudy sir.
I love this game, I'd love to see more from you on it! The Coolest thing about it for me is the chance you have a chance to pull cards from booster packs and boxes (which are dirt cheap) to pull the rare as heck signed card from the creator/artist of the series. How cool is that huh?
Rudy if your a fan of the old Atlus games see if you can find an original factory sealed Orge Battle. Thats one hard game to find now.
Weiss schwarz booster packs and trial decks are all focussed around different anime/games, you essentially pick your favourite and prove it is better then everyone else.
21:19 And the curtain falls! Man that's funny that it ended with that card! Haha! It's a shame that you didn't get anything crazy rare. I'm so sad that I missed out on getting these boxes while they were cheaper! I love the Persona series, and I love the artwork too!
in regard to quality issues: the first 3 blocks of force of will in germany had some really bad issues. Foils with faded colors, cards which were light played out of the booster (probably due to bad cutting with a dull blade), chinese cards instead of german. And those weren't one time concurrences, but something which happened often. Luckily since the new block those issues are mostly vanished.
I'm trying to think if Bushiroad has every had a problem with their print runs off hand...
The lottery cards are actually stamped signed card by there original japanese voice actor/actress
Im glad im not the only one whose crazy over atlus products
FINALLY WEISS ON ALPHA! RUDY PLEASE DO MORE WEISS
I've been playing Weiss for 3 years. I play AoT, SoT, and Fate. It's a fun game that I play when I'm needing a less stressful game then Magic.
Oh Rudy, you got some good tastes.
Rudy your prononciation of Weiß is flawless. On schwarz you could Work xD its more like If you shh someone then the w from weiß and ans the Last Part ist like arts "shhwarts" or Something like that xD
Depending on the series and the voice actor, some of the signed cards are worth as much as a case. It is a fun game though for sure, you essentially find an anime you like and you play it. A lot of the colours are relatively the same across all the series, save for a few different effects.
Persona 3 was actually one of the first group of series they released on the Japanese side of the game, and the deck has been getting fairly consistent support throughout the years
And now a WS P5 English Booster Box is easily $250-$300, a P5 Trial Deck $150-$175. Wow.
Rudy likes SMT....I can die happy now. Well, maybe after I flop some tacos.
Anyway for a part 2? Really enjoyed this vid :)
Yes thank you Rudy!!! Finally Weiss!! I love you!
Now i know why Persona 5 boosters in English are out of stock :D THX Rudy! xD
I was half hoping you were going to open a second one. That artwork is interesting
W/s Vid. nice. as a Jp Ws player myself, the game is fun to play, along with the extremely wide series range
Thanks for sharing, it's a fun game.
Your voice sounds really familiar but I have no idea where I've heard it.
FINALLY. A weiss opening on alpha
Of course Rudy love's SMT too. Great taste in RPGs man.
3:14 The pants shot.
lol whaat
He’s been confirmed wearing pants since ‘17 vegas GP
Not what I was expecting.
Waiting for your video on mtg25 is like waiting for a new episode of a tv show. Comeeeeee onnnnnnnn
Rudy, the first RR you pulled is worth 35 USD btw
Glad you like Persona! Play through P4 Golden and P5 when you get a chance dude, some of the best RPGs I've ever played.
The crazier part is that Star Wars actually has a set in this game, although only sold in Japan.
Rudy in persona 3 , the FES is a continued story of the Persona 3 main game.
Do you still have any of these available for purchase?
I really wanted to but into this, but there's no support here for anything that isn't Magic.
They look very cool, I wonder if that card game could become very popular like magic or pokemon.
Gundisalvus it's actually quite popular here in Asia, im not sure in the western parts but I'm sure weebs like em.
Persona 5 is one of my favorite games of all time and I have only played 3-5 but it is such a great series, I love the style. I also played some shin megami games which is like persona just less stylized. I want one of the playmats though
Hey do you watch anime, if so whats your favorite? Mine is Dragon Ball and Gundam series
RYU HA I laughed so hard!!! Seriously though thanks so much! Huge fan of P5 so this is awesome
Anything that is signed card by a popular person is value. I still have my Eng Kantai Collection Weiss Schwarz Cards lying still waiting for that another set so I could play and trade with again. And they are expensive over time since they don't print that much after initial release.
Do they also sell that playmat? I’ve tried looking for it but no luck
I am the biggest persona fan and now there’s cards wowwwww
The boxes and pack are just so expensive, you've got to be really dedicated to follow this one.
Since there is no rotation once you have your deck, you dont really need to buy more cards to comepte (unless your set gets another expansion which doesnt happen that often). Especially on the JP side of the game you can get top meta decks for ~100-150 bucks that don't rotate so it ends up being cheaper than a lot of other games.
Foiling stuff out can be very expensive though
Colors are: red, back, and white; and the game's name is in German ... I'll let you make the connection.
That was a really good box u pulled the best RR in the set like a 25-30$ card
As someone living in America, I know exactly 0 people who pronounce Persona the way you say they do. :P
Rudy, you need to do an episode on your game collection. I wanna feel superior to you in at least one category of collecting ;)
You finally did a box opening of WS! And really decent pulls, you even got the best card in the set as your RR in the first pack. Too bad no SP this time (but yeah, there only are 2 parallel foils in a box, so after seeing you pull a RRR and a SR, I already knew you missed the SP jackpot).
For those who want to learn more about the game, here is an (old) youtube video that explains really well how to play it: czcams.com/video/jAAZf0rcysU/video.html
Hey Rudy!
I wanna see you open the khans block and two randoms, how do I go about setting this up? My treat
these games are so insanely awesome.
what the hell rudy can you please show your flippin game collection?
I love how Rudy talks about buddy fight and not Vanguard which is the more popular game
im so jealous of your p2 eternal punishment copies. btw how much was the whole package
Are you going to cover Decipher card games?
Eddie Van Halen's guitar(just thinkin' about it cuz of the colors on the playmat, crazy).
Rudy what do you think about cardfight vanguard? it's sell by Bushiroad.
RUDY!! What is going on with the foil versions of Iron Maiden and Planar Collapse from Urza's Legacy?! They have been increasing in price for about 6-3 months now!!
It says you get 4 playmats, but everyone that buys a case only shows 1 which is always the same one, i wonder what the other 3 look like 🤔 i mean it says 4 playmats after all ...
I have never in my life heard someone pronounce it as "Per-Sauna". Were they non-native english speakers?
Do you have a website to buy these? How much will you sell them for? The playmat is epic.
Woo video games!