Axial SCX10.3 Top speed on first and second gear 2-speed transmission
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- 14t stock pinion gear measured along with an 11t pinion gear.
We then compare it to a TRX-4 with 2-speed transmission
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it seems that Traxxas , even if older, is still better. Ciao
@Quincy Hezekiah certainly ciao
why would you need it to be fast? its a crawler.. just wondering
Nice!!!! I'm with some others here to. I will save some money and get some parts for my Trx4's.
The optional gears for the straight axles are released if you want to try them in the transmission. Mine are on the way, now. Axial Racing 232033 Input Metal Gears 20T & 34T. Also comes with the two 27T gears that came with the kit, but it's the only way they are currently sold.
Did you try the optional gears? 🙂
I was thinking of buying the axial, but I think I’ll stick with my craigslist search for a trx4. Love your videos, great reviews. Keep up the good work
Nice review. Going to order an 11t pinion. For the moment I will keep the two speed since I built it already, I may end up locking it out though at some point.
Great shootout
I'm sticking with the TRX4 for now. I have 2. The first one is a Defender with the HobbyWing AXE 550 3300kv and the other started life as a Mercedes 500 (got a great deal on it) but immediately after purchase was modified to accept a Killerbody LC70. It's running the stock motor with a HobbyWing 1080esc.
For me the 2 speed transmission is the biggest draw to the truck and it seems Traxxas is still winning in that department.
We don't have a lot of technical crawling around here and I'm too lazy to build my own course. Trail running and climbing red clay ditch banks is the thing around here. I start in first and try to "technically" crawl it, when this doesn't work a second gear "blast" to the top is the best way 😉.
I won't knock the SCX 10 III. It looks like a great truck. 👍
Nice vid hopefully those straight axle gears make it more comparable to the trx. U guys are the best love the new truck can't wait !
Francis always soothes my coved19 anxiety with his wise words
ha ha. nice compliment. I can make an entire 1-hour video on Covid-19 since I've been researching it for 2 months for my travels around the world. But... it's best I don't. RC is life.
I’ll be going for the 11t most likely on my Gladiator when it arrives in the UK, we do quite technical climbing so low speed control is everything. It sounds like the micro servos burn out pretty much immediately anyway for the DIG or 2 speed! My first purchase has been Ottsix Baby Faces though, can’t wait to get hit by those import fees!
The actor with the walker was a great touch. Your so resourceful RCR
Dialed huh? One take. They talked to me too about the vehicle. Should have put that in the outtakes.
Like other comments I love my TRX too!!! Ready right out of the box!!! But I must say thank you for telling us the speed in mph instead of kph and me trying to figure the conversion myself!!! 😂 Thank You for all the great videos and information!!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
Great video think I’ll stick with my TRX4
My takeaway is... keep my trx4 and save the money for now. 😉😂👍. Love the vids buddy. Always the best sir!✌️
Right on. What TRX4 do you have.
RC Review i took a g500 and turned it into a upgraded sport. Just finished the grc Ackerman setup and brass. It’s running super nice😎. Grc made a massive difference. Glad I found ur channel, it’s helped a lot honestly. Been into crawling less than a year and I love it! Thanks for doing what you do my dude🙏👏🤙
Once again great info from RC Review! I will hold off on the 10iii until there are more gearing options or a 3 gear trans.
We want that too. One of the issues with SCX10 ii is all the 2-speed and DIG gears are in the transmission, thus adding weight. This vehicle will perform better on tech is those can be omitted, just like the TRX4 Bronco vs. the Sport.
@@RCReviewChannel Weight is a good point too. It would be cool to see you compare them when/if they come out with a single speed.
When you talked about removing the interior and cage for weight I thought it would look cool if the roof was trimmed off of the body like the axial 69 Blazer and the rear half of the cage removed for weight.
Great info, thanks! I'm going to switch to the 11t pinion, since I'm not looking for blistering speed. I do agree Axial needs an optional trans gear set.
Yes, our main goal is to give enough insight to help folks get the right vehicle for them.
I love the scale details on the Jeep body , but if I want a two seed rig it will be trx4 or trx6. Maybe with the Axial Jeep body 🤔 . Thanks for the great info and videos
I’m running it all, just wanted to thumbs up it real quick then be back to watch
thank you!
RC Review did you see Kisun’s rc life? Shows how to fix clicking sound
I have the 2100kv crawler esc motor combo from Spectrum. Would just a 11t pinion serve me well without changing transmission gearing?
Can you elaborate on what parts are needed to leave out to just run high speed.
Thanks! It seems the replacement gear set includes the extra transmission gears for the 1:1.7 conversion with straight axles. Look like the best option at the moment.
Damn... already looking for options...
And here I am wishing my 64:1 low and 25:1 high should be a 16:1 high. LOL.
My scx24 I added the 15t on 3s lipo with 23% overdrive and love it. So I'm moving up to the scx10 and want more speed so what's the largest pinion gear I can add that is easy to find and install. Is there another option for speed? i.e motor and transmission
If u change the axial motor from brushless to brushed you surely going to get lower speed on the car as the axial motor is faster then the trx4 motor?
Would the same motor from the scx10 3 go faster in the trx -4 in high gear
I have a 27t Holmes 540 trailmaster in a 10.3 and just ordered an 11t pinion. Is this a good motor and gearing combo? I love all of your videos and have been a long time subscriber! Thank you!!!
Where did you get the 11t pinion from?
Smallest I can find is 12t to match the 48dp.
Why dont you guys take an axial and traxas...install the exact motors..bateries...wheels..typy of body...tires...weight in wheels or axles...speed controler...steering servo...shocks and make the weight of the cars the same and then take it on a crawl and see which one out perform the other one...as i still think axial is better as my axial out perform the traxas on many comps
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IF I get the SCX10 III... And I'm still deciding.
I would not use the 2-speed (maybe manually). I would use the Dig though.
Thanks for that look!!
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
Right on. Full detailed review is still pending.
Sweet comparison, high/low speed on TRX4 is more useful. That Axial dig function looks nice too tho
That Dig is not ideal since the servo is so small and it cannot shift under power. Thus the vehicle needs to stop, interrupting flow and traction. And the application on ta Trail truck with an already great steering radius is not for many owners.
@@RCReviewChannel Can the servo be replaced with a stronger servo to fix that so the DIG is much smoother?
I just picked up an SCX 10 lll and I am having trouble finding the right pinion gear. My motor, an AXD 550, has a 5mm shaft and the smallest pinion I can find is a 17t. The pinion that comes with the kit is a 14t, but it has a 3mm bore.
Heres a 13t pinion with a 5mm bore
Axial part # AXI30839
i think the best way to set it up at present is 11 or 12 tooth pinion and use the 2 speed for extra wheel speed on a lower turn brushed or low kv brushless motor... If you choose a 2300 kv and up brushless just save your money on the transmission servo and just gear it via pinion. Although i believe that if you buy the replacement primary transmission gears from axial it includes the optional straight axle ratio gear in the bag... then another lower transmission ratio becomes available to you for testing..
cheers mate.
Agreed!!
Nice one. I do have both trucks both on brushed motors and i did noticed the difference on speed in between both trucks and wish the scx10 3 had a lil more low speed. I got a question for you guys. Its the pitch on the pinion 32p or 48p? The book says its 48p. But i don’t trust it. I been looking for a smaller pinion for mine.
It is 32p. The manual is wrong unfortunately and it's screwing up parts listings at hobby shops too.
In the first few packs of the 10.3 our most common question while running was... "Is that 1st or 2nd gear? :)
RC Review awesome thanks. I will be getting a new pinion soon then and im waiting on my new gt5 too.
I’ve just fitted the Hobbywing Quicrun Fusion Pro 2300kv with stock 14 tooth pinion in my SCX10 III and it’s way too fast. What pinion would you recommend for this set up please? I”m thinking 11-12 tooth? Love your videos too and thanks for all your great helpful info.
Very nice! 11t for sure!!!!
@@RCReviewChannelthank you! 🙏🏼👍🏼
Already running a 11t pinion and going to keep the 2 speed for a while
Same. We'll keep the 2-speed as we explore other motor options.
I'd prefer something like the Hobbywing 'Axe' brushless motor and ESC than the problematic mechanical complexities of a multi-speed transmission. A Tesla model 'S' has a single-speed power train that allows it to match or better some of the fastest supercars on the planet. Why a 6+lb RC truck needs the complexities and maintenance concerns of a multi-speed transmission(and its appurtenances) I cannot fathom.
Only thing with the Axe is it's not a high rpm motor. It's kind of a sleeper on our Gen8. On our TRX4 or TRX6, it is a beast since it is torquey and the 2nd gear lets it fly.
@@RCReviewChannel From what I have seen the Redcat Gen8 Axe Edition scoots along quite nicely at a maximum velocity of about 15+mph (150+ 'scale' MPH) while retaining competition level 'crawling' abilities. I've never seen a 'full-sized' International Scout do 150mph on either dirt OR asphalt; have you? Axial is simply 'gilding a lily' by putting in these superfluous multi-speed transmissions and the servos and hardware necessary to actuate them. The reason MP3 players became so popular is NO MOVING PARTS to go wrong as there were in cassette, 8track, and CD players. Don't we already have enough "moving parts" to contend with on our RC trucks?
We are taking two speed transmission not. Dual clutch 6 speed. Even my emaxx 2 speed transmission is all original and still handling 6s. They are not complex.
I think trx4 is still the king...
Do you happen to know the stock speed of the trx4 sport on a 3s lipo I feel like it's right in The Sweet Spot if I could build the 10 III and lockout second gear would be less problematic would it be right around the same speed?
5mph on 2s and 7mph on 3s. It uses a 15t pinion instead of the the bronco/defender's 11t pinion.
@@RCReviewChannel i knew you would know 🤜🤛💯 thank you my RC brother
@@RCReviewChannel According to the manual on my new TRX-4 Sport I just opened yesterday, the sport has a 17t pinion and a 39t spur for a final drive of 36:1. It can take up to a 15t pinion on the stock spur to get a final drive of 41:1. To gear down any more, the spur needs to be changed to the 45t. No spare gears come with the truck.
Run brushless and I don't need two speed. If they would have made 2nd gear faster, it would be a handful without unlocking diffs
That is true. 2-speed really needs to be wider so it can utilize all motors and low crawling gearing options. And if faster, it really needs to be designed with unlocking diffs.
Are scx10 ll have 2nd transmition as well ,?
No. Those are available in the aftermarket.
So the brushed Traxxas has the same speed as the brushless Axial... But the Trax-ass can go much slower.
Curious, you guys said your modified TRX6 hits 30mph, doing some basic algebra for the 25:1 high and 64:1 low, that means you have at least 11.7mph of speed in 1st gear in a much heavier truck... So if the 10.3 does just under that what's the issue? why would that be too high of a low gear when you choose to gear up your 6x6 that way.
The TRX-6 actually is 25mph for bashing with a big 15t pinion and a Hobbywing Axe 550, so not quite 30. Possible but the rear tires were touching each other already at full speed. We did it for a couple weeks to bash, race, do jumps and shoot a bunch of rowdy video.
It's back to a 12-tooth now. But we can swap around depending on the task/play at hand. It has unlocking diffs which actually makes it controllable and fun at high speed.
@@RCReviewChannel oh, your thumbnail says "TRAXXAS 6X6 (break) 30+ MPH CRAWLER (break) JUMP 'N CRAWL"
Was the 15 tooth pinion problematic for crawling then? I can get my puller pro 2700kv to climb in 2nd gear with decent torque modulation while maintaining really slow wheel speeds on stock gearing, but the slipper clutch will slip with too much load. So I wasn't even concerned with a going to a larger pinion.
I was considering going to a 15 tooth pinion because yours crawls so well and I though it was a 3,300 kv motor with a 14 tooth pinion.
Maybe I'll just run a 4s lipo to get my 2700kv motor to 40,000 rpm and into the 20mph range and stay on the stock gearing.
This is why I wish traxxas would run a wider gear spread for their high and low. Something similar to the Rubicon 4:1 low range would be nice... going from a 25:1 high to a 16:1 would be sweet.
That is plenty different for a low range and a trail gear... no need for 15-20MPH... I don't like the huge jump to 2nd gear in the TRX4, makes first either too slow, or 2nd too fast... some might like it that way, but I think the Axial is perfect.... I wouldn't want super slow and fast, I want 1st slow enough to crawl, but not so slow you always need 2nd for a bit of wheel speed...and want 2nd so it has extra speed for trail runs, but not basher and jumping speed, that just breaks stuff amd destroys bodies...
I'm plannimg a 3s setup in the 1850kv range, so it might just work out about perfect with the 14t pinion...
Thanks for the great video comparison... also kinda sounds like the Axial transmission is quieter now...
Good points. But it's not a question of going 15-20mph. It's more an issue of going 1-4 mph on low then maybe up to 9mph on high. This will allow great control with any motor.
Otherwise, a 40% increase in speed is hardly worth all those gears/noise/weight/linkage/servo/channel.
@@RCReviewChannel , I have found a few videos and comments, talking about how to quiet down the noise in the drivetrain, with shims, with grease, and one video showing 2 small gears that could be put in backwards(Kisun's video)... seems with a lot of patience, lubrications, etc.. this could he a nice smooth drivetrain...
I hope to have mine ordered and built sometime in April/May...just deciding which kit to build for my youngest to make a purple 4Runner...
I only run 2S lipo, would you still recommend the 11t pinion? I'll probably be running a HH Crawl Master Sport 13t or 16t brushed motor
I would say 12 or 13t
@@RCReviewChannel thanks man, will keep that it mind. I can't get a 10.3 here in the UK until at least July unfortunately, the stock we had sold out fast.
Hope you and your family are keeping safe and well, take care!
How much gearing can be removed if you go single low gearing? Video? LOL
As far as we know... none. What they have is space at the lever/shifter to lock it in low or high speed. If anyone knows otherwise, please chime in.
I thought the jeep and gladiator axial 2 speed didn't work because of the dig.
You can use one or the other but not both unless you switch to a radio with more channels
If you have a TRX 4 already your set.....if your shopping for a Crawler you have options.
I prefer the very slowly axial, also axial can put better upgrades for this crawler, hi from Costa Rica 🇨🇷 🇺🇸🤜🏻🤛🏻
I removed the top (small with square hole) gear for second gear trying to get the trans quieter, no need for such small diffrence in gearing.
Did it get quieter?
@@RCReviewChannel A little, I haven't been able to take it outside yet.
I did that, only I wanted it even quieter, removing the second gear helped alot, took it out today and it's a noticable diffrence, still not as quiet as the Element transmission.
how iS 40% not a huge difference?
For transmission, that is nothing. Most rc car transmission change 150% or higher. Some even 300%.
40%, often you can't even tell the difference in actual speed. For all the weight, wiring, complexity of gears, servos... it's hardly worth it.
Ahhh makes sense. Didn’t know you were talking about that high of numbers haha
@@RCReviewChannel I just installed the hot racing 2 speed transmission. What do you think about thst trans ? What’s your opinion ?
Hello y'all
Traxxas kicked the Axials ass
I have both SCX10-3 and TRX4.... the 2 speed in the SCX10-3 is pointless as is. I will get a different gear set if anyone ever makes them.
True. It's 40% higher speed and that simply isn't enough to justify the added cost, weight, cg, complexity. It seems like it was added to check a box on the feature list.
That compromises performance and cost though and the gears cannot be removed to lighten.
ok so 1 thing is for sure, this guy favours traxas ...
Axial will always be better then the traxas hahaha i keep on learning the traxas guys a thing or two with my axial 10.1 and im running a hard body on my axial hahah
Only bad thing about traxxas is everyone has one
That's embarrassing for Axial, you need about $500 to keep up, with that money you're about to spend, i'd move up to Vanquish instead.
My Gen 8 is faster, jk, it’s really not. This axial looks really popular. My question is do people really drive these trucks fast? I’m looking at a prerunner truck for going fast and jumping
Keep seeing adds for what appears to be high quality rc but the price is for what you would get from walmart or RadioShack. Lol. It's a scam. Like an hmk 490 LC HD. An its only 40 bucks. Yea right. Its thousands. So people beware
I understand the scx103 is faster but hey use the same motor to compare this comparing with diff shit is getting old
2 speed, dig unit and here is your clicking problem
czcams.com/video/QI2cV1DY0TI/video.html
ima ask axial for a refund no 2 speed
Ima