$60 Amazon 3-Gear with Dig, Any good?
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- čas přidán 5. 10. 2021
- I gotta say this is a very interesting transmission!! Links below for this as well as the Vanquish Hurst Dig unit, use the links to help support Exocaged RC, Thanks!!
Transmission on Amazon
amzn.to/3FjTj4I
Legit Vanquish dig unit
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Axial SMT Transmission on Ebay
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Links for Thor:
Axial Ryft RTR
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Amazon amzn.to/3EAsdGn (Black)
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Spare Times Hobbies Chassis
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Spare Time Hobbies Optimus Bundle
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Holmes Crawlmaster Mini ESC
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Holmes Hobbies Revolver Motors
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Holmes SHV 800 Servo
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Ebay ebay.us/37CBfC
Jconcepts Tucked F250
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Ebay ebay.us/4UucSO
All the Vitavon parts on ebay for the Ryft
Front and Rear Axle housing ebay.us/Klifrw
Front Axle housing ebay.us/ge78hk
Rear Axle housing ebay.us/qnSPmF
Input Shaft ebay.us/xCMOKN
Trans Case ebay.us/SSGI88
Knuckles ebay.us/dUkiPG
Links ebay.us/UEuOtU
Rear Arms ebay.us/m1SU4x
2.2 Beadlock Wheels ebay.us/Os2sHc
Diff Cup ebay.us/zpbEZf
Steering Link with Saver ebay.us/Tx1yP4
Front Swaybar ebay.us/vxqkVz
Rear Swaybar ebay.us/ZOuDZM
Reefs RC 99 Micro www.reefsrc.com/shop/p_651716...
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Proline 2.2 Foams
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Crawler innovation foams Deuces Wild
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Kyosho 5x7 shim set
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I bought one of the inexpensive transmissions from Amazon and was amazed at how close it was to my Vanquish. I liked how you showed the SAE vs metric deal. I hadn't measured that. It's cool that someone tried to put out a decent one, with the shims and all. Mine was noisy till I ran it for a bit, now it's smooth as ice.
I've got 3 of these in rig I ran for 6 months and no issues so far
I added this to my cart, then came on to search install and reviews and your video came up first. I'll take that as a sign lol.
Id have to say the machining of the aluminum even looks better from amazon than vanquish
Great video as always. 💯
Nice presentation bud. I may just pick one for a project. Thanks 👍🇨🇱
I have two of them with no complaints
Awesome video excellent comparison looking good
I've been waiting for you to do this trans I only have this one and was curious how it compared
This looks like it would line up with the StealthX transmission but needing longer screws and some good spacers. What do you think?
Great Find Brother!
Hello! Enjoy your funny yet informative videos, especially this comparison on 3 speeds transmissions. I am curious if you've done a follow up video on reliability of the two in this video? Thanks again! See you in next video.
The bolt in bearing seat is smart. I hate to purchase stolen patents but it may need to happen.
Big fan of the channel! Would a 550 motor Fi this trans? Will it be too long?
Guess I'll have to get one of these for my Capra.
Love your vids bro. You got some killer toys.
Thank you
Funny I just ordered of of these cheapo boxes to see what there like. I’ve also ordered a vp one to. My guess would be the vp one will be better on tolerances and machine work.
Just matter if time before they copyed their dig Iam shore it will wear out do to softer metals but i think I am gonna try it aleast .in one hand hate copy's in another aleast you can try to see if it is for you without dishing out money up front .keep up great work and have great day.
Wow that’s super cool
what spur and pinion would you recommend with stock capra axels with this 3 gear
I was looking at this but I can’t find the specs on the gears just in case I had to replace anything. Will scx10 gears fit? If the dig messed up you could put the vanquish one on and be good.
I have three of those transmissions. I have not had a single problem.
That’s good news. Thanks!
Hello sir could you please tell me which pinion teeth are you using with the stock crown teeth.
I'm using the one that came with it. I think it's 48 pitch. I don't know the tooth count.
Idk if I want dig? I think just 4 wheel steering would be fine. Do people run 4 WSing & dig?
Wow, for the exception of a few holes it’s a carbon copy. Nicely done brother.💯
Yeah maybe the alloys are different?
Biggest diff I noticed was the tolerances in metric scale vs SAE. I know Vanquish likes to use SAE a lot, like the 4-40 screws instead of the 3 mills.
Makes ya wonder if the manufacturer just thought it better to use one scale all throughout.
For the slop of the arm, drill a hole in the silver shaft, tap it to a. Screw size, add a screw and washer. That will tighten the slop
You are correct. I may do that but for now it’s in Thor as you see it here
@@ExocagedRC ya I know. It was a suggestion I saw on Instagram that someone else did
I have that trans in my gen7 and some how cracked all 4 mounts on the case and had to go aluminum
This case is aluminum
What's a good servo to use with this trans and a hobbywing fusion motory current one hits the motor case
You didn't putt the shim back in on the rod on the Amazon trans
My sons scx10 2 clone has that same trans without the dig and it's been great for a while now! I'd bet it'll work just as good as the vanquish. Plus it comes pre-assembled
I did have to grease it but otherwise it’s in Thor now
@@ExocagedRC yeah they send them all dry for whatever reason. But it doesn't take much to pop them open!
@@rc-daily probably cuz it's cheaper and it really isn't much of a big deal
@@TheNamesArif I could be wrong but I'm guessing it's something to do with shipping because grease could be considered hazardous but Idk
was there a follow up to this vid?
What alot of people dont realize about the production world is you can only hold the patent for a certain item for a year until it has to be renewed. Most companies dont renew. So any overseas company can then by the blueprints and manufacturer the same piece for a fraction of the cost. LOGISTICS AT WORK
That’s interesting. I knew it expired but thought it was a longer duration on them.
@@ExocagedRC IT is longer in the USA. 20 years. renewals might be short after the initial 20 years, but by that time a lot of products are obsolete. And yes I deal with filing for patents in my career.
Is there less slop when the its in 4wd on the hurtz?
@exocaged rc will this fit in a redcat gen 7 pro with a stock motor
I just ordered this for my scx 10. I have a Jeep rubicon body coming I hope I don’t have to trim a lot off the body. Also what size servo horn will I need, or will a regular sized horn work ok? If I need a servo horn would you link one? Great video man, I always research before I buy anything and this tranny seems legit, thank you for this video!!👍🏻
It’s funny how people in the Amazon reviews swear that this isn’t a copy of the Vanquish tranny when this video shows that it’s almost an exact copy.
Yeah it’s very VERY close.
It's because vanquish hired a company to make that part and the company also sells it. You pay double to have the vanquish name.
Is that true? the double is because vanquish is the one to design and develop it. when you just copy it's twice as easier
@@TheNamesArif yes it happens with a lot of parts. They design it and then send it to a company that can manufacture the part.
@@andrewbrown8927 You have no idea what you are talking about. Vanquish is a full machine shop with dozens of CNC’s right in Sacramento, CA….
@@scalecrawlerfabshop4457 there is always some person like you in the comment section that believes they know everything when in reality you don't have a clue what your talking about. They outsource work everyday whether you like it or not.
How is it holding up!! So far
Would this work for the ecto?
Hi there great channel. One quick question will that transmission work in a SCX 10 II with the standard gray transmission. If I fit it will I need to change anything else like the rear prop shaft? And will the standard spur gear fit in that transmission?
It should bolt in. You may have to make adjustments to the shafts and clearances for the dig unit and all.
@@ExocagedRC buy adjustments do you mean I will have to replace the safts or what.?
The inside the gearbox is that metal or plastic?
Looks like an axial deadbolt gearbox, but with an added dig.
Only thing is you can't run a 550 mtr unless you move the servo mount back.
To use the three stage dig on this transmission would the GT5 transmitter be a good option ? or can U do a vid on how you would set it up in the new rig 🙏😁 cheers & hi from NZ 👍
Hey man yeah the GT5 would be good on the toggle switch. Ch4 I think it is.
I used a stock remote out of an element for 3 position and it works just fine too
Hey exocaged I know this is a older video but I was wondering if this would be something that is possible to be installed in a basecamp
Or if not do you know of any other alternatives
Would this fit in a scx10 3?
I had purchased that transmission for my scx10 iii but sadly it wont work because the dig unit hits the link mount.
Make a custom skid plate with a old cutting board
That’s my guess
Interesting video. I want to build a Thor.
Build a Jake, Thor's been done,
All good man, it's just cool you want to build.
Low CG is king.
Anyone know if one of these or one like it will wrk in axail ryft
Looking forward too much Enjoyed this . So that three geared transmission. Will drop in just about anything. Axial or enduro ? Man my UMG10 ll would look really good with dig. And duel winches. Front and rear. Servo winch to the rear.
I’d make it cool recovery Rig
And four wheel steer imagine that
👌👍
Pretty much yeah. Same bolt pattern
@@ExocagedRCwill it drop into a redcat gen8?
I’m sold!
I’m trying this out on my new rig
Its only about 20 bucks difference for the real Vanquish, plus your getting better quality aluminum that wont wear out and I doubt there's a warranty on the china brand. Just some thing to consider...
@@PhilBender612 but that’s just the dig unit
This comes with the trans too so it’s a steal!!
Made in the same factory?
So could I replace the Amazon dig unit with the vanquish one? Or does the shaft size keep it from being a direct swap. I have the Amazon dig transmission, but I wouldn’t mind to upgrade to the vanquish unit.
I think it’s a direct swap
be cool if it was a 2 speed with dig, selectable 2wd/4wd, even traxxas needs a set up like this. 2 speed with dig, selectable 2wd/4wd without modifications to the chassis, transmission swap, modifications to the drive shafts. but seen videos where they did that on trx4, but no servo. manually switch. that be a pain
cause rock crawlers ain't always in 4wd
neither regular rc non rock crawlin 4wd trucks
You just helped that knock-off some serious sales. Hahaha
Good video as always Buddy.
Yeah probably, I got all the Vanquish links in the description as well. I found another SMT trans on eBay so I got that ordered so that Vanquish will get used somewhere.
@@ExocagedRC Cool.
I've thought about the Vanquish trans/dig for my BC8 Mammoth(yes. Right?!). Figure it'd be way stronger than stock. Just not sure it's be geared low enough.
Seen some 8x8 Truck Trial rigs with front/rear and side-to-side dig.
Is it machined or cast, couldn't hear well when I was watching. I assume gear and bearing quality are your variables. You can drop 80 on bearings without blinking. Another patent lost to over seas.
😁👍 today
Not bad for 60 bucks man
I am building a lcg cheater rig and am running ar 44s axles can anyone please recommend a transmission besides the stealth x where I can get overdrive in the front please help
do you think you can put it in a Redcat gen8 v2? 😃
With mods sure
So dummy question and I own that if I have a 32p pinion I will need to change that to the 48p pinion correct. I’m new to all this so just trying to get a better understanding
yep you'll need a 48p pinion
You know, I’m honestly torn on all imported the “chanquish” parts. Because part of me says IP theft IS THEFT, but also I’m a total cheapskate. Like if they have to reverse engineer it anyway and put the parts into production why not put a little tiny bit more effort in and make a similar product that’s their own design?
Don't forget... In some cases they steal from we the consumer because a lot of these expensive parts we buy are the same. They pay pennies and brand it and sell it at 200% margin or MORE. most times when you buy (not always) name brand hi price, you are being ripped off. Soooooo. Who is the thief? They are all marketing scammers and don't care. We should just buy cheapest possible.
As long as it is different in anyway. Its not considered IP .
I am personally glad there are lower cost options I have been priced out of completing projects due to a very limited budget. When it comes to the essentials always buy name brand for costumer support alone.
I have been running knock offs for just about everything else and if I didnt tell no ones notices anyway.
Would there be any way to fit this into a trx4 bronco?
my trx4 bronco chassis had to be modified for the scx10 transmission plate to work. plus, scx10 chassis gear box, need 1/4 inch spacers for both sides. plus scx10 be single speed there unless you get 2 speed scx10, but be a pain for the dig. servos unless you get a micro servo and mount. might or might not work since 2 speed with dig needs a longer chassis and drive shaft work, angled downward to the front or rear. mine is turned around, angled and pointed downward towards the front so it be smooth for free roll in 2wd, rear pull, 4wd all pull, dig, rear pull, front locked for doughnuts and burnouts
Anyone have a fix for the spur gear wobble on this transmission ?
How much wobble? I have two of them and they seem to be ok for me
Anyone know what overdrive gears (size) works with this gearbox? I just ordered one and I want to add overdrive in the front thank you
No od available for this trans. Gotta be in the axles.
Exocaged RC ok thanks, keep up the top work🍻👍🇦🇺
Will this fit or bolt into a axial wraith?
It’s got the old 3-gear bolt pattern
My friend what size of pinion gear I should use
start with a 16t
Thank you
Got the link?
amzn.to/2YcMxgC
What gold hex driver is that nice content
Bowhouse RC makes it
Thank you
Will this fit a scx 10 iii?
if you use the Bowhouse 3-gear adapter it will
It could be they are the same.
How long did it last ?
still works perfectly
I know some things from Vanquish are made in USA. Is that the case with their hertz dig unit? That would justify the extra for me. Heck, plastic 3 gears can be found used for $10
About $50 for a complete SMT 3-gear trans on eBay. I ordered that last night.
All of VP's aluminum is machined in California at their shop.
@@alexcalley1928 except Incision branded items though
Where is the link?
In the description
How long did shipping take?
About 4 days.
@@ExocagedRC was it on prime? The one shown is not in the USA.
Update! It took about 12 days to receive the trans from non prime shipping from Australia.
Will this go into a Capra?
Not sure if there is room for the servo in that chassis
Yes, I have done it. But you will have to shim it on one side, so the motor clears the rear link mount. You can buy a skid, or just fill the stock skid with JB and re-drill.
With a Vader skid, yes.
How many teeth does the spur have ?
I don't like buying knock offs but vanquish stuff is to costly I looked at 1 axle from them it was 300 dollars where I could get a front and rear for half the price.
Pardon my ignorance, what is a "dig" in this case?
It locked the rear driveshaft and let’s the front drive and pull the truck around. Usually for very tight turns
@@ExocagedRC so it allows you to make it a front wheel drive vehicle on the fly?
Wow...so much for only 60 dollars?!
Look same superficially but the other has higher cost of manufacturing... the other more savings in costs
Like i told my son a million times more expensive doesnt always mean better! You dont have to spend a ton of money for a name because thats all your paying for is the name
@Steve Vento We all know that Vanquish makes them theirselves in Cali though.
I run amzon trinmission 6s metal is not soft lol 😆 1yr strong 6s crawler / ass hauler lol
Way cheaper on aliexpress , iv run one for months
Amazon's great because you can order the cheap knockoff stuff and if it's absolutely garbage you can return it.
I baught a 20 dollar Amazon 3 gear transmission and it lasted half of 1 battery...lol I knew better but had to see for myself
But if your not hard on stuff that shouldn’t matter
True. I always drive courteously and slow.
Its like all the luxury fashion brands like (D&G) let do assembel there clothes in China,and sells them way overpriced in europe or the states.
Its like a $20 difference I think. I rather support the American based co. for a better product always. And you are correct with softer metals. I have experienced that my self with china brand parts. They DO wear out quicker. I buy the real stuff.
The vanquish dig unit is $88. The $60 unit in the video is the entire transmission and dig unit. So its more like a $190 difference if you bought a 3 gear vanquish trans and vanquish dig.
Yeah 20 dollar difference is incorrect.
If you want the whole trans, the vanquish is about $170 while the amazon is $61
Im going to take a wild guess here and say they're both made in China.
Vanquish has CNC operations in California. I believe all of there stuff is made in the USA. I don't mind the China sourced stuff, but I wish more people would realize when they straight up steal IP. They scanned the Vanquish unit, swapped hardware to metric, and started popping out copies.
You should get your nails done
I’m a mechanic, forklifts and all kinds of industrial machinery. It’s hard to keep my hands clean at all.
I wouldn't support design copiers.
You use a microwave and cell phone, maybe a toilet, door, everything around you is someone else's idea before it was made into what it is now that you use.
Imposter
An exact carbon copy replica knock off - all depends on how well a person follows their morals of right and wrong.
Personally... things like this are flat out theft.
Taking the time, thought, and engineering effort of one person and simply copying it to make a quick buck.
I agree, it is stealing the design. It's shitty and unfortunately unstoppable. That being said I'm sure corners are cut, like materials and tolerances but for a lot of people saving the money plays a huge role in the decision made on which one to purchase especially if the cheaper version works well. I myself buy cheaper beadlocks ( treal brand ). None of them are clones of vanquish products that i own And I have had zero issues using them.
If you got no issues with money, go ahead and buy the original. It's not really on you as a customer and vanquish has every right to sue that company
@@TheNamesArif They can sue all they want However nothing would ever come of it because China doesn't follow our copyright laws. I agree with you as a customer especially one with limited pockets we have to shop accordingly.
If thats what it takes to make them realize their prices are outright ridiculous then by all means.
@@HighhScore precision machining cost money and so does design work. I thought some 3D printed parts were ridiculous until I started designing some of my own parts. Designing at least for me in CAD is a skill that I thought would be much easier. I am good with computers however when I started playing around in CAD I realized why design work is so expensive it takes a lot of time. That being said I can't afford vanquish parts all the time. I don't like spending crazy money on beadlock wheels when I can get something that works just as well for 1/3 the price. If no one purchased the bank wish products they would rethink their pricing I assume but they have a die-hard fan group that are willing to pay whatever they ask I'm just not part of that fan group.
so promoting stealing of intellectual Property...
Will that fit an scx10?
It is a direct copy of the gen1 SCX10.
@@bobzilla9p0 thanks 😊