Hikaru Accused of CHEATING?!?!?!?!
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- On November 20, 2023, Kramnik posted a very interesting paragraph on his profile on chess.com. As many of you know, Kramnik has been using this profile to accuse cheaters. This time he took a stab at me. These are the games that caused the former World Chess Champion to suspect me of cheating. Let me know in the comments what you think.
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He's using speedhack to move faster, So he could win game on time even if his position is worse. That's obvious.
On November 20, 2023, Kramnik posted a very interesting paragraph on his profile on chess.com. As many of you know, Kramnik has been using this profile to accuse cheaters. This time he took a stab at me. These are the games that caused the former World Chess Champion to suspect me of cheating. Let me know in the comments what you think.
@@GMHikaruI agree with kramnik
stockfish is indeed using Hikaru to cheat in blitz👍
A speedhack in _chess?_ How would that even work?
**edit** Guys, I know it's a joke. I'm just thinking aloud. Calm down.
You were pretty good at hiding it... next time should consult Neilman 😏@@GMHikaru
@@GMHikaruI believe you did 9/11
"Wow top 3 player in the world wins quite a lot"
Very cool Kramnik.
Lol
He wouldn't consider hikaru elite player unless he became world champion. Hikaru never was a candidate yet.
@@uduehdjztyfjrdjciv2160 what do you mean he wouldn't consider? hikaru literally has the elo to back it up ffs
@@uduehdjztyfjrdjciv2160yes he was last cycle lol
@@uduehdjztyfjrdjciv2160 kramnik does become the true embodiment of the word "elitism" 😂 what's funnier is Garry now feels like the chill one
I’ve always thought Hikaru having Hikaru’s help was an unfair advantage
lmao yea like, this the real problem right here
Stockfish was accused of cheating in the recent computer championships by having Hikaru give the moves.
There is a difference between rightful concern and paranoia. I think Mr. Kramnik just went from one to the other
I can't help thinking he's been there for a while unfortunately.
I play chess while I wait for my daughter's bus like 1700 not paying too much attention on a phone screen. and at my home desk in calm setting I play 2000-2100 level. reality of online chess and stats need to account for those aspects. how many times streaming interfered with Hikaru's "accuracy"?
Sometimes I play during work, and in a winning position sometimes I resign, the other player doesn’t know why I have resigned. 😅or maybe I get a call.
The line between genius and crazy is very thin 🤪
Russians have this one trait - trying to drag others along with them into the same pit full of excrement they are living out of.
Hikaru doesnt even care, he just lets the chess speak for itself.
69 Likes… Nice
I'd like to think this is meta shade thrown at naka for using Kramnik's very logic to accuse hans of cheating and now being outraged that he is accused using the same baseless speculation, but it's probably not.
yes he is quietly snickering at Kramnik's antics of a paranoid
@@JohnSmith-pn1vv It's not the same logic except maybe at the broadest level of them both looking at statistics, but that means nothing as to the actual arguments and logic being used.
@@trevorn2351 Same logic bud, they both believe statistical outlier = cheating. Away with you nuthugger!
He was using stock fish on his ceiling to cheat it was so obvious
or in the headphone
grasso are you like stupid do you think stockfish is like “H3 IS THE TOP ENGINE MOVE BLA BLA”
You’re trolling right? Please tell me you’re trolling
@@keatonborutskie707 it's a hikaru
meme bruh, where he always looks at the ceiling during games to calculate moves. Bro has been doing it for his whole career
no everybody know it was analbeats duh@@Alberto-nz6er
I think it's time for Kramnik to apologize. He's finally getting caught up in his own conspiracy theories here without even engaging his brain for a second. It's absolutely ridiculous to accuse one of the best online players in years of "cheating" when literally every child knows that this player himself vehemently condemns cheating. Instead of just looking at points like a moron, Kramnik should also look at the games. Hikaru makes tons of serious mistakes that no computer in the world would make, but his opponents sometimes make even more serious mistakes. That's just the way chess is, and just because Kramnik himself is a comparatively weak online player is no reason to condemn every better player for cheating. It's just getting embarrassing.
Yeah it MIGHT be fishy if Hikaru didn't have a long history of great over the board performance, or if he wasn't regularly playing live in front of an audience in online games.
Watching these compilations, you can see him reasoning out the moves, talking about alternate lines, and reacting to his opponents' plans.
You can also see that not only does he make his share of mistakes, but he catches them more often than his opponents.
It's not like he's standing next to a lower rated player who's out-analyzing him in real time like some other players who have been suspected of cheating.
Yeah it's literally impossible to keep a straight face or keep acting like this over certain moves constantly over 46 games
Um, this is a lot to take coming from Kramnik. For a minute, in his matches vs. Topalov, he was going to the bathroom VERY frequently, to the point where Topalov's team was trying to lock it down. Why would Hikaru need to cheat and start cheating now with a multi-decade record of spotless integrity? Plus the current high profile, there's too much success to risk. Anyone who has been following Hikaru any length of time is going to say it with me: "Nope, he's actually THAT GOOD." And not to mention at least one episode of poor sportsmanship and bad etiquette in recent matches from Kramnik. Namely, a poorly received loss to one of the Nodirbecks.
@@Chunda8 because the stakes of random online blitz games is too high. It's not like the candidates or the grand swiss; he literally doesn't care about those low stakes tournaments.
Only online blitz games tempt him enough to cheat.
Obviously.
Of all the people, I would've thought that the chess player that notoriously said that he's a streamer now and that has basically all his games on VOD for everyone to see PLUS has explanation videos on youtube would be the last person to be accused of cheating but here we are
i always knew something was fishy when hikaru always looked at ceiling and found the best moves
Stockfish in ceiling
You just set up a projector and BOOM! Instant access to all of the best moves!!
😂
Lol😂😂u must be a hikaru fan
There is something wrong with my ceiling.
its not fishy its stockfishy😉
I wouldn't call myself a Hikaru fan but calling him a cheat is ignorant to the fact that he has been dominant for years. He's just that much better than the rest.
hes the best ever in blitz history hes the only one that could even be rated +3600 or +3800
Yeah with zero Blitz World Championships, obviously he's the best ever in blitz history@@teamwonder9229
@@teamwonder9229 Best ever in blitz history while Magnus has 6 blitz championships to his 0... and most of those blitz championships they both participated. And their head to head in SCC is 3-1 Magnus... so how in the hell is Hikaru the "best ever in blitz". I'm a bigger Hikaru fan than u btw, but I'm not a biased fanboy, LMFAO.
@@justinchance-squires115tell em
@@justinchance-squires115Nerd.
Is someone going to help Kramnik? The poor man needs some help. Maybe a hug? Someone please do something.
I don't understand what is your problem with Kramnik? Yeah sometimes he probably overreacts but he is providing stats and information in what he is doing, and if you really think online chess cheating is not an issue you have a problem.
Also i don't think he ever insinuated that Hikaru cheated, just providing stats to compare with other (less strong) players.
@@MessiahFromR6 but he's so cute with his silly words, i just want to ruffle his hair, pat him on the head and let him know that everything is ok, that it's all going to be just fine... aww bless his little socks :)
he had so many complex issues from kasparov XD
@@MessiahFromR6 the latest stuff is quite clearly aimed at Hikaru is it not?
@@MessiahFromR6 Problem with Kramnik: overly paranoid, and causing dramas out of nowhere by exploiting a legit issue.
Hope that helps
Yes, of all the times where Hikaru may have decided to cheat, this was the moment he finally broke, it was in these innocuous blitz games online against people far below his rating, yes, here is where he decided to cheat, for the grand prestigious award of…..a blitz rating, yes, you caught him red handed Kramnik! No, not the candidates, not the SCC, not the MCT final, not the American Championship, these blitz matches, thanks detective Kramnik.
Also, wasn’t this guy 2900 OTB blitz and went undefeated in a recent STL R&B? Constant podium finisher in the WR&B? And this guy chooses to cheat against these schmucks, shame on you Hikaru! How dare you beat the Super GM’s fair and square but cheat against the FM, WHAT DO YOU GAIN?!?!?!? WHYYYYYY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who hurt you dude
@@Epo0001it was to joke about kramnik btw if you didn't get the sarcasm
Exactly dude
tbf top chess players are highly competitive. they hate losing. also you named a bunch of otb tournaments like that has anything to do with how easy it is to get a little hint in an online game.
@@humanbean3the point was that it would be the same difficulty to cheat in those online tournaments with actual money on the line instead of random blitz games against people way below his rating
As a mathematician, Kramnik’s error is to draw a conclusion from a “biased sample” of Hikaru’s games. Given the number of games Hikaru plays there are bound to be streaks of 46 (say) games that look superhuman or unlikely, but they’re not actually that unlikely given that you’ve got tens of thousands of 46 games in a row (including overlaps) to choose from, given the sheer number of games he plays against opponents who are generally significantly inferior. The bias comes from drawing conclusions after first picking the best streak.
well said buddy
I was about to comment on the same concept but voilà there I found someone explaining that already
exactly
As a methemetician, infinite categories are the key to solving the ABC problem, my name is Jacob Lurie-Mochizuki.
Dude! Hikaru basically dedicated his life to the game from childhood and was known as a prodigy, this is the guy that first beat Bobby Fischer's record for youngest American GM. He's been playing and analyzing at a World-Class level for well over a decade.....And streaming chess every day all day it seems. I'm just a well-read guy with a good memory, if I played and studied chess for several hours a day over a decade, I would for sure be eyeballing some IM norms at the least. It's more than just possble, it's highly probable that Hikaru is that good.
Unfortunately, Kramnik has completely lost it and gone bonkers about cheating.
Proof that IQ or any form of intelligence is not equal to skills in chess lol
High IQ just means you learn things faster, but you know, there's no need to be in a hurry. Also, if you're explaining something to a high-IQ person and they don't get it, your explanation sucks.
IQ is a lot like BMI, neither have any real world application on individual level
@@ojslthat's fat talk
@@sailor5853 lmao world strongest guy is considered obese due bmi but obviously dudes jacked as fuckkk so like yea deffo bmi is shit, its says im underweight when really im not as well
Lol, Hikaru do this same thing over and over again. He accused a lot of fair GM's without ANY proof since ICC.
Anyone who accuses Hikaru of cheating hasnt watched him doing puzzle rush.
Literally 😂
Hikaru is great and I disagree with Kramnik that he's cheating, but any Super GM would be that good in puzzle rush
@neon1899 unlikely considering Hikaru is best bullet player in the world
@@neon1899 if by "any super GM" you mean Magnus
Yeah I mean most of the time Hikaru's not even looking away from the board, constantly verbalizes his thought process, assesses the position out loud. No nonsense black-magic engine lines. Not sure why this would be suspicious.
They’re obviously joking. He’s not cheating
@@Blinkers2007GameDevkramnik is not joking. He's never watched these videos. he's basing everything on statistical anomalies.
Yeah Hikaru would have accidentally exposed himself by now if he was cheating in front of the whole world on Livestream
The "reason" is the 45.5 out of 46 the odds of that against 2900+ rated players is rather low. Now do I think Hikaru cheated NO not at all he would ruin everything he worked for over the past 4 years with his stream etc etc. On top of this Hikaru is always talked about being the best or second best blitz player and rapid player in the world.
Exactly. And it's not odd, he is miles better than them and it is quite obvious judging by his abilities@@TheHideousgamer
Guy casually destroying 2900’s , while entertaining the chat, barely looking away, vocalizing all his thoughts. He is just that good!
That's the best compliment a former World Champion can give you. You're a legend Hikaru.
Vladimir kramnik is like " This guy is so much better than me, let's accuse him for cheating"
Is he really better than kramnik? One was a world champion and was ranked chess God by hikaru himself
Really bro kramnik is the first undisputed chess champion of this century and Hikaru has never played a world Championship match
Kramnik > Hikaru in the history of chess, there is no debate whatsoever. However, Kramnik is becoming paranoid, like Carlsen
@@acnt8714 yeah that's true most world champions suffer this fate I think. But still the level of disrespect kramnik is getting is surprising
@@yuvrajdahiya3206Most of the Hikaru stans picked up chess quite recently and they haven't seen the games of Kramnik. For most of them Hikaru is like top 3 chess player all time with Carlsen and Tal while he is probably not even top 10 with all due respects for its great playstyle
Even more amazing than GM Hikaru cheating is how fast he’s able to talk through his thoughts about the moves he’s being fed while doing it🤷🏻♂️😆
Hikaru should take it as a compliment that he plays so well kramnik thinks hes cheating 😂
Hikaru: "Accused" of cheating
Also Hikaru: "What the Heck, I'm really blind right now, this is ridiculous for me :/ "
Winning while making mistakes? This is why the real explanation is stream RNG!
8:40 There is the proof!
He talks about "starting the engine". In reality those are codewords to his team, who helps him (by using STOCKFISH). They started calling out the following best moves for him. And what happens next? The opponent resigns! Hikaru is so sneaky.
That’s a good theory ngl
I remember you cheated against me too when I sacrificed my king. 😡😡
as GM Jacob Aagaard said "What a world we live in, where people can make unfounded accusations of cheating, just like that..."
Oh, I was expecting a 3:45:00 rant and all I got was this... :D You have my vote Hikaru! Vladimir, watch this video and apologize! :)
They're so salty it's disgusting.
It really is.
They're so salty it's disgusting. - Hans referring to naka nuthuggers accusing him of cheating otb with anal beads.
Whether you cheated or not, I'm proud to say Hikaru never beat me in chess and I'm rated 1600.
As a 1300, I'm even more proud of never losing to titled players.
as a 700, I m most proud that magnus Carles is still unable to defeat me till date...
Pretty sure Kramnik heard 8:46 without hearing 8:42 and his mind blocked out everything else after the 'E' word.
Such a rating performance is not unusual for Hikaru these days.
If you think about it it’s actually a huge compliment from Kramnik to accuse you. Your performance was so great that a former Worldchampion thinks you might not be legit 😂💪🏻
yea this is my take too. This is a compliment.
Poor old man...can someone please send Kramnik to an old age home😢
You can tell Hikaru cheats by how many arrows he draws. A top GM wouldn't need that many arrows to succeed.
Dude thinks he's Legolas.
This is the best response possible to Kramnik's delusions. The actual games in question, with Hikaru explaining his thinking as much as can be reasonably expected while he's in the middle of playing chess, including commentary on his blunders.
Hans to Hikaru: you are not alone, i am here with you, this is a check mate, this is just our fate
Thing is Hans has admitted to cheating online and been banned for cheating in prize money tournaments.Hikaru hasn't.
@@NN-fw9il As a teenager, yet the accusation came over the board. There isn't a difference. So, if you are one of those sad individuals, stay consistent.
Yep Nak always running his mouth about Hans now they cell mates.
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour Well, he was still a teenager when Magnus accused him.
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour he was never accused of cheating OTB by Magnus or Hikaru, just heavily insinuated. Few people running statistical analysis have speculated that his rise was oddly quick and quite strong under different correlations but nothing could ever be conclusive. He's a strange fella who is easy to dislike and admitting to cheating in one context and trying to lie about that in another context doesn't increase that likability.
Hikaru is exactly the last person I would suspect of cheating in online speed chess.
Kramnik: hikaru's cheating, just look at these games
Hikaru: I'm such a bad chess player, I'm a total mo-ron, holy mackerel guys
Hard to believe someone with half a brain can accuse Hikaru of cheating when he is willing to walk you through every move and the logic behind it as well as alternative ideas, tactics, and plans.
Hikaru's food is altering his thinking process, giving him an advantage over his opponent.
Kramnik's mission to stomp out or mitigate cheating in chess is vital, but he was off the mark on this one. I still support him 100%, cheating is a huge problem.
Especially when you are going to the bathroom every 5 minutes when playing Topalov.
His mission to stomp out cheating would be admirable if he actually knew how to do that. He doesn't, though, and so he's more of a danger to honest players than he is to dishonest ones.
Hikaru has a gift that the rest dont have which makes them jealous
Exactly. You can clearly see it. He’s def not cheating. Lmao
Kramnik has a world championship that naka could never get because he couldn't handle it with the big boys. Naka is maggie's petulant child, adopted otb.
I can’t believe he cheated. Seems like a decent guy.
Yeah. He cheated with ceiling fish
I don't think he cheated or that he is a decent guy. Remember when he threw chessbae under the bus for his own toxic actions?
9:05 Kramnik jumping on that Engine , gotta Tweet again , " A Player admits he's hearing an Engine "
Doubting Hikaru in blitz is basically the same as doubting Magnus.
You are one of the greatest to ever do it bro, no one can take that away from you
'Just because ur streaming doesnt meant u cant be cheating'- Kramnik's next tweet
Loved the vid, I saw everything without skipping. Great content!
Cagnus: Hikaroo's the only player on my level.
Kramnik: OMG cheater
Nice editor how are we supposed to see his reaction in a 3 hour video
i dont think Hikaru cheats... but he doesnt help his case when he constantly talks about going with the move that "looks the most human".... 😂
haha :)
😂😂😂
i like the part where he talked about the cheating accusation
The chess speaks for itself
This video are the games he's accused of cheating on. he posted them to "let the Chess speak for itself". Kramnik needs help.
Hans: my time to react now
You mean vibrate
I'm sure he felt this notification vibrating
somebody gotta teach kramnic about probability and statistics. The old man has gone senile, insane that he is accusing hikaru what a disgrace
I'd bet he didn't check anything outside of these games, for example how Hikaru lost a lot of points after
You can see he's cheating - the arrows are appearing all over the board as Stockfish calculates. What a response from Hikaru. He probably is 3600+
accusing someone off cheating when they are clearly not is the ultimate compliment. Nice fail Kramdik
I watched all four hours of this in the basement and my wife accused me of cheating.
Hikaru created stockfish, Kramnik just can’t believe it.
Hikaru is a true content creator
It's paid*. And no, he probably didn't.
of course he didn't but he sure as hell is gonna make the most of it
@@_NoninesSomeone else did for sure
@@plasmatr evidence?
@@mikemodano863 i would like to see the proof.
he was clearly checking his notes hidden in that bowl of spaghetti.. absolute disgrace
The crime speaks loudly in the accuser.
I like how Hikaru explains what his plans are, while cheating; and that he "misplays" things in many games. That's so subtle. I always knew the ceiling and the headphones were sus.
Hans is also a streamer explaining his plans and also makes mistakes. He was accused of cheating by naka based on the same statistical speculation Kramnik uses. Apology time?
@@JohnSmith-pn1vvHans was accused of cheating over the board because he was consistently getting 100% accuracy which no player is even close to being able to do and he refused to explain his thought process after a game. He was never accused of cheating while streaming.
@@ryanrech107 Hans never got 100% accuracy you were lied to by chesscum and naka creating more drama. Hans has made many interviews post match and has no trouble explaining his ideas, again, hikaru told you the sky was green and you just believed him without thinking for yourself.
It is incredibly toxic to accuse others without evidence but we would expect no less from the fanbois of the biggest and most toxic POS to ever play high level chess! Biggest not literally of course, naka is a tiny little manlet
@@JohnSmith-pn1vv how does hans taste?
@@leopoldberger9037 better than the foul taste you get in your mouth when you realise that the rando in the comment section showed your lil hero, alleged cheat Hikaru Nakamura, to be an insufferable hypocrite toxically creating fake drama for clicks.
Well even if we take the elo system on line as fully working, that would give Hikaru a 1/200 chance of going on that run, which is totally possible when you consider how many games he plays. So he would do this 3 times every 2 years with the amount of games he plays online.
Hikaru also uses a chatGPT to annotate stockfish's moves so that he can talk to chat while cheating. Despicable
"I'm such a bad chess player today" - Hikaru, 24 hours before getting accused of cheating.
The engine he used is called Iliterallydontcare
The irony of Mr.Toiletgate calling other people cheaters...
How could you watch that first game and think he cheated....
And when Hikaru tilts stockfish deactivates😂😂
the hope is kramnik has to see many instances of 3:25 where Hikaru is missing things and reacting live. hopefully kramnik can match all the moves he's suspicious of to Hikaru's live reactions and explanations.
Hikaru is super consistent and not only explains his moves, but also I think remembers most of them if not all. I've also never seen in over 40 years of playing, someone calculate that far out and that accurately. Even in relaxed mode, our man is like 8 moves ahead, it's crazy impressive. Even the 2400s are not immune to getting adopted and speedrun at will. I also think Kramnik is not handling retirement well, it would be a tough transition for most players. He's been a big deal in chess since the 90s and it's going to be humbling to yield to the next generation's rising stars.
Hikaru is just too good. 10000% legit
You're so good at chess that he can't believe you're not cheating. I would take it as a compliment.
Hikaru can’t have a good chess day without being accused of cheating 😂
Hikaru, I'm rooting for you to win the Candidates Tournament and subsequently the World Championship!
I have trust and faith in the Mighty Hikaru.
Sounds like Kermit is jealous that Hikaru can whoop his ass up and down the board any day of the week
u know u are at god level of being good when even the super gms accuse u of cheating
VLADMIR IS LOSING HIS MIND
i would never belive he is cheating just because of his pesonality ... he's just a nice guy doing what he loves for decades
Umm yep, he has definitely not been the famously toxic brat of the chess world, ever!
He’s so good he got accused of cheating 😂 what a monster
Hikaru's arrows speaks for itself.
When will these guys understand that Hikaru is the king of online chess?
Your chess speaks for itself, mate.
"I realized I need to drink my coffee." Hikaru
"I'm such a bad chess player today." I know that feeling...
Hikaru is so good people think he is cheating lol
Hikaru is the envy of former world champions . 😊
How do you cheat with an engine by winning by flagging while playing bad moves? Kramnik is just salty, doesn't understand how blitz chess works, and also doesn't understand statistics
Kramnik be like "im a former world champ and i cant do that, Yeah he is cheating"
lmao
Hikaru is literally the last person that would cheat, guy explain most of his moves as he plays, details his thought process before playing the moves, get mad at himself whenever he makes mistakes and much more. I feel like he would rather quit Chess entirely than resorting to cheating.
Lmfao bro this is such an epic year for hikaru! Dude soak up the hate! You’re doing so well
@BrendanTietz epic year for hikaru is Magnus' business as usual.
Blitzed those friggin noodles
i thought this is the reaction, it's the compilation of the match
Lol what a joke😂
Does kramnik really thinks a man whos eating and playing chess is cheating?
Hikaru is a multi talented cheater!!!
Cheat = ch(ess) + eat
The smile and "puzzle rush for the win" at 2h48m20s was fantastic.
I remember once someone at the gym accused me of using PED’s. It was the greatest moment of my life. Nothing beats being accused of cheating when you’re playing it clean.
Hans: the vibration speak for itself
LOL, You literally the second best chess player Right next to Magnus. And Number 1 in speed chess formats.
Unless you win 20 straight games against Magnus, You clean in my books.
Fax
Caruana is prob better atm
@@acnt8714not at blitz
@@acnt8714 hikaru adopt caturana twice in a row
@@donnelleraeburn9207 who cares about blitz ? Classical is what matters most
If you look closely at the palm of Hikaru's hand, you can see he's scribbled a list of how the pieces move. bro got exposed.
He's got stockfish on the ceiling