Great video well done. The only thing I would recommend is to attach hand ascender to backup line with foot loop. Put foot loop over the edge and stand in it and then move your weight to your ID. Good job stay safe.
@@Propeller_Head Great videos Bob! Agreed about the foot loop although I would place it on the main line as the ASAP may get in the way... czcams.com/video/5L06ftuTmsM/video.htmlsi=fmcDFIPNjRESjqkv&t=219 Seems there are a few Rope Access techniques that would compliment a RR team. Also curious about thoughts on single line for the rescuer? Seems to be common in France for initial patient access.
2-rope system vs SRT? I think the best answer is "It Depends". What is your acceptable risk profile? What environment are you operating in? Are there any overarching regulatory requirements like OSHA, etc.? As a general golden rule & best practice, I feel that it is reasonable to strive for a 2-rope system as often as possible, because as professional rescuers we do not want to create an incident within an incident. And sometimes this may be an absolute requirement that will supersede any good judgment or critical thinking on behalf of the rescuer. The old saying "Risk a lot to save a lot" applies here & when it comes to rope rescue, I think that the saying applies more to the first people in position to affect a rescue, such as a co-worker or friend or anyone else who's already at the scene & has the knowledge, skills, & abilities to perform the rescue. If I am recreating then I am using SRT. If I am participating in any kind of training or doing non-emergent work, always a 2-rope system because it's hard to justify not using it, plus there are numerous fall protection regulations & standards that apply (OSHA, ASSP, ASTM, NFPA, SPRAT, and on and on). If I am doing rescue in an industrial environment, say perhaps some kind of confined space, then a 2-rope system unless I can justify that this kind of redundancy would add more risk to the situation, & this is in concert w/ OSHA verbiage. If I am doing any rescue in the mountains or some other natural environment, best judgement will dictate the level of chosen redundancy. In most cases in the natural environment on a real response I'm leaning towards SRT by default, however I must consider all the additional factors first. Such as how bad or sharp is the edge, how cold or wet is it outside, how important is it that I get to the subject quickly or can it wait until there's a backup system in place? In the end, you just have to add up all the factors & do your own risk assessment (regulations & standards, type of gear available on hand, other resources available on hand, environmental conditions, honest assessment of your own proficiency & comfort level, etc. etc.). Use your best judgement. Unfortunately good judgement comes from experience, which often stems from the lessons learned from your bad judgement.
@@Propeller_Head I appreciate the well crafted response. Yes, very true many variables to consider. And of course the subjectivity of risk assessment/tolerance. Looking forward to more videos 👍
There is no specific function. You can just simply clip the carabiners directly to the rings. In this video, someone else rigged the anchors so it was rigger's preference. The one application that I could see a direct benefit to having the soft-link Prusiks between the anchor & the carabiner is if you anticipated any twisting motion. The Prusik will allow for twisting while a carabiner direct to the anchor is less ideal. But in this video, it doesn't matter at all... the person setting the anchor just felt like slinging a Prusik in there, most likely due to habit.
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Great video well done. The only thing I would recommend is to attach hand ascender to backup line with foot loop. Put foot loop over the edge and stand in it and then move your weight to your ID. Good job stay safe.
Agreed, that would make it even easier
@@Propeller_Head Great videos Bob! Agreed about the foot loop although I would place it on the main line as the ASAP may get in the way... czcams.com/video/5L06ftuTmsM/video.htmlsi=fmcDFIPNjRESjqkv&t=219
Seems there are a few Rope Access techniques that would compliment a RR team.
Also curious about thoughts on single line for the rescuer? Seems to be common in France for initial patient access.
2-rope system vs SRT? I think the best answer is "It Depends". What is your acceptable risk profile? What environment are you operating in? Are there any overarching regulatory requirements like OSHA, etc.? As a general golden rule & best practice, I feel that it is reasonable to strive for a 2-rope system as often as possible, because as professional rescuers we do not want to create an incident within an incident. And sometimes this may be an absolute requirement that will supersede any good judgment or critical thinking on behalf of the rescuer. The old saying "Risk a lot to save a lot" applies here & when it comes to rope rescue, I think that the saying applies more to the first people in position to affect a rescue, such as a co-worker or friend or anyone else who's already at the scene & has the knowledge, skills, & abilities to perform the rescue.
If I am recreating then I am using SRT. If I am participating in any kind of training or doing non-emergent work, always a 2-rope system because it's hard to justify not using it, plus there are numerous fall protection regulations & standards that apply (OSHA, ASSP, ASTM, NFPA, SPRAT, and on and on). If I am doing rescue in an industrial environment, say perhaps some kind of confined space, then a 2-rope system unless I can justify that this kind of redundancy would add more risk to the situation, & this is in concert w/ OSHA verbiage. If I am doing any rescue in the mountains or some other natural environment, best judgement will dictate the level of chosen redundancy. In most cases in the natural environment on a real response I'm leaning towards SRT by default, however I must consider all the additional factors first. Such as how bad or sharp is the edge, how cold or wet is it outside, how important is it that I get to the subject quickly or can it wait until there's a backup system in place?
In the end, you just have to add up all the factors & do your own risk assessment (regulations & standards, type of gear available on hand, other resources available on hand, environmental conditions, honest assessment of your own proficiency & comfort level, etc. etc.). Use your best judgement. Unfortunately good judgement comes from experience, which often stems from the lessons learned from your bad judgement.
@@Propeller_Head I appreciate the well crafted response. Yes, very true many variables to consider. And of course the subjectivity of risk assessment/tolerance. Looking forward to more videos 👍
serious question - what's with the orange slings on the anchor point? what's the function of those compared to just clipping the carabiner in?
There is no specific function. You can just simply clip the carabiners directly to the rings. In this video, someone else rigged the anchors so it was rigger's preference. The one application that I could see a direct benefit to having the soft-link Prusiks between the anchor & the carabiner is if you anticipated any twisting motion. The Prusik will allow for twisting while a carabiner direct to the anchor is less ideal. But in this video, it doesn't matter at all... the person setting the anchor just felt like slinging a Prusik in there, most likely due to habit.
@@Propeller_Head ok right on , thanks for the reply
you should use some eye protection
You're absolutely right.
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