Self Running Generator Test Results
Vložit
- čas přidán 14. 07. 2023
- I built a self running type a/c generator and tested it for output and capability. The claims made by the Liberty Engine guy and King Homemade were combined to make the maximum amount of energy possible by marrying their ideas. The result was under what they both claimed it would be. Watch as I dispel the myth they perpetrated. They will hate me after the release of this video more than likely. But it will lead me to another version of this that may work better instead. Fingers crossed.
Generally speaking, having more or less magnets does not affect the power output of a motor. It changes the torque and speed range instead. The efficiency change just slightly because if you change the number of magnets you change the magnetic flux arrangement. A motor with 12 poles will have more eddy currents losses because the magnetic field changes its polarity faster than a 6 pole motor with the same rated speed. Also by connecting the coils in series you are cancelling out the voltages because one set of magnets will be north and the next set will be south creating magnetic fields through the coils in opposing directions, you'll need to reverse the connections on every second coil. Also you cant have 6 poles and 14 magnets as the poles wont line up to the magnets in the most optimal position. You need to have either 6 magnets or 12 magnets for alignment. Also your magnets look like they don't cover the full length of the coil core.
For that series coil winding, you want either 7 stator poles & coils in series with 14 poles on the rotor, or if using 6 poles & coils in series for the stator, then the rotor should have a multiple of 6, so either 6 or 12 magnet poles.
Before getting overexcited there needs to be adjustments like N52 magnetic strength and circumference off fitted six coils you need so as to get under 900rpm for 50Hz. Remember coils used by Liberty are at tested/determined circumference required for about 1420rpm of driving motor to maintain 50hz. Speed and magnetic strength then enable proper ac wave propagation at around 230vac. The rotor material is really irrelevant I used fiber glass resin for best results.
How can I privately contact you?.
FYI. Having lots of coils in series does not necessarily mean that the voltages will be always higher. What happened to your system is that there is an electrical phase shift that happened to each and every coil voltage output that is why the voltage does not increase due to the number of your magnets you are using . It also does not follow having lots of poles/magnets will result to higher power output. It does not work that way. AC generators uses a definite combination/proportion of number of magnets to the number of coils to remove the electrical phase shift to produce a stable high output voltage at a desired speed/frequency level (50 / 60 Hz suitable for appliances). When you use 14 magnets at a speed of 1400 - 1500 RPM which is your drive motor's speed will result to 163 Hz of frequency (Formula: speed = 120 x frequency / number of poles) and it will burn your appliances immediately. It is theoretical to use 2 or 4 magnets only to avoid electrical phase shift of the voltage thus producing a stable higher voltage (4 coils only same with the Liberty Engine 2.0 / 2 pairs of coils connected in parallel facing each other). Also, the reason why the Liberty Engine 2.0 used a aluminum-silver alloy is to make a much heavier rotor at, 7.6 kilos including weight of all the magnets. (because aluminum is very light and silver is way more heavier than aluminum and non-magnetic) Thus utilizing the rotational power produced of a heavy rotating body due to it's large moment of inertia to maintain a stable speed even at high loads and reducing magnetic braking effects. I hope this helps. This is all about electrical engineering foundations. And, one last thing, the position of your rotor is not centered to the center of the coils that is why the voltage is too low even the air gap is very small.
Have you made this free energy engine ? How you prove that liberty engine is not fake please help
Is the Router wide enough?
And or long enough?
Shouldn’t the rotor be coming out almost flush to this side of the transformers?
Hi
You have some mistakes and you can avoid it as follows
Coils to be upside down and all the way down.
Magnets should cover the whole transformer core wide +60 mm.
Magnets should be 4 N S N S only, not as much as you have.
Magnets should be high power, minimum N52
Motor speed should be 1500 rpm for 50 Hz or 1800 rpm for 60 Hz
Rotor should be aluminum alloy.
You can try these modifications and give us the results.
Goodbye and good luck.
I used 2 x triple MOT coils per frame and 3 frames exactly the same with a longer resin rotor with N52's rotating under 900rpm for 50hz and 230-40vac. Liberty used 2 x twin Mot coils single frame only at 1420 for correct Hz and 230vac.
Did your design worked fine?
i believe what you are lacking is the resonating part, use capacitors to adjust the voltage, two of the same type in series, capacitors store dielectric electricity, you can adjust the right uf just use both of same like 20 uf or 15 uf, read the voltage out of them to see
Brawo mistrzu
Los imanes deben de estar lo mas junto posible al transformador, aun asi yo obtuve 5.5 volts por cada bobina, ya no pierdas tu tiempo ya que es falso. saludos
Que raro que produzca tan poco. Las bobinas van en serie entrada con salida, y los imanes alternados N, S, N, S. Yo hice el test con una sola bobina y 4 imanes alternados a 350 rpm y produce 2.6 v. El voltaje lógicamente crece cuanto más bobinas en serie se conecta. Buen video saludos desde Lima Perú.
You're testing the voltage in the wrong place. The coils are only getting a electrical charge to make them magnetic THAT'S the 7v. Open the box on the engine and you will find your 230v output. And to get it to self run you just need to find away to turn the generator fast enough for it to start getting the 7v to the coils which will make the magnetic fields that will keep the generator running on it's own
Hello,
If I understood correctly, the working principle of the Liberty motor is that permanent magnets with coils are used for self-rotation the electric motor, and than that motor generates energy (230V) to power the coils of the permanent magnet and not the other way ...
yes thats what i see to not testing correct if they did they would get exactly the same out as in if plugged in DOH
so the magnets and coils are for running not power output.
What kind of magnets where you using on the rotor?
Neodymium
Perhaps you need the coils back, not close to the rotor as it seems the main factor to avoid the Lenz counter effect
When the coils were farther back the voltage was only 4.72 vs 7.49 when closer to the magnet rotor.
@@monstirz Thank you, im beginning to think those people are using video editing and cgi in the supposed "demonstrations", if so its a big shame. Hope im wrong
Tried it with 8 micro waves still not enough. It will cancel its self out. It's was a good idea but the waves wipe each other out.
220 turns of copper or connect to other transformer
Oh sorry and of course should have stated that in liberty the coils are wired for maximum power & each pair paralleled for collective current. As rotor spins each pair is simultaneously magnetized so no phase shift that is one pair N the other S alternating a push/pull arrangement for correct waveform and voltage. Note each pair is a separate circuit one used to drive motor plus extra if wished and the other full socket for independent use. (obviously both totally out of phase supplies).
Anyway the non-mechanical version is better using larger 3-phase motor stator with triple MOTs on each end and using non-necessity of full shaft as only need it sofar into each end to get the magnetic resonance and stator producing multiple paralleled current sources, in this case well over 20kw?
I am a fellow researcher. Please contact me.
gracias por brindar informacion veridica sobre engaños de otro videos!!saludos
Just as a hint. In the original video they used the SEMh71-2C from Cantoni & C Milano Motor:
2780 RPM, 0.75 HP, 0.55 KW, 3.6 Amps, 2 coils ...
tak wiem o tym zgadza się w rzeczywistości ten silnik ma mniej więcej 2900 rpm mimo że na tabliczce jest 2780 rpm
Thanks for the info. I used a 110 1 hp vevor motor but did not get but a small amount of volts. I am going to try a 1 Kw permanent magnet motor with a strong 12v motor. I seen a video of an Indian guy making 300volts from it.
@@monstirzWith how many RPMs was the motor spinning for this test?
I would be cautious with some of the Indian CZcamsrs there are definitely also scammers out there.
Although there are scammers out there, it seems like a lot of trouble to go through to assemble an entire unit and show it working. There's more to it than just generating volts. There's watts and ohms as well that have to be added into the equation. For example you can't run an AC motor with DC currant. Or vice-versa. You need a rectifier. The Liberty generator also had other metals mixed in with the aluminum and silver but was unwilling to divulge that information. Maybe they just dumped a handful of iron shavings in the molten mix, and maybe it just worked by fluke. They definitely are hiding something in their video and not giving up all the secrets. But with that being said, many people in the past who created something "world changing" either disappeared or suddenly died, and all their notes went mysteriously missing.. or it was massively debunked, making all other creators/inventers lose hope before even trying. Sometimes, the commenters will give ideas that the creator didn't think of to try. Good luck
Thanks for your input.Maybe that engine was about money for CZcams views?
did you use the alloy argoluminum? he says its the special sauce in all their motors.
I doubt that would make any difference, but Houk Aires the Navaho Indian is extremely concerned .., LOL! But in his test I noticed freshly dug dirt?
@@monstirz i dont know if it would. what is houk aires channel name? dont see it under that name. and if liberty is lying then he's lying aboutitall. but if he's telling the truth, he's tellin it about it all. his engine does works? , then it will work w the sauce.
Who Cares or houk aires..,lol@@johnM-Jr
I been asking that same question about the importance of the silver-alum rod. My guess at this point has to do with lower resistance. Alum does not conduct electricity and only the silver and other conductive elements in the rod would only conduct the magnetic field and in theory would have less resistance than a sold steel rod of the same size. The lower resistance will transmit stronger magnetic field. In one of their videos they mentioned they purposely left off that piece of information about the thin metal layer of silver-alum that they wrapped around the magnets before wrapping tap around it. This supposedly created a stronger magnetic field. In their Liberty #3 motionless generator they used a silver-alum rod to carry the magnetic field from the stator to the microwave coils on either side.
@@joecoyle3117 yes, its possible to figure the ratio of silver to alum using the specific gravities they give. ~ 55% silver and 45% alum
Wire in parallel NOT in series.... Additionally rectify to a super capacitor that's give you much higher output voltage.
that is not a generator. he plugged the motor into the wall. lol. he does not even have the crank starter.
Right.It is plugged into a 110 outlet.But at 3600 rpm it only produced a few volts and did not make enough to self run.
@@monstirz what does that tell you? for one you need a crank starter to get the motor to work on its own. two. you need bigger stronger neodymium magnets to create a bigger magnetic field. three. you need more coils to get more juice.
if the motor does not start on the crank you missing one of the other two.
Hola ,debería acercar el rotor más cerca de las bobinas. Un saludo.
Mi respeto al innovador, pero debo decir, pésima traducción, malísima traducción, Yo estoy tratando de lograr producir 120 volt AC, porque los transformadores están con dicho voltaje. me agrada mucho ver este video.
the fact that there are even videos available about this so called "liberty engine" is enough for me to not even bother wasting my time.
shame that so many people are gullible.
still, they seemed to have learnt that there is no skyscraper, bridge, or other landmark for sale... maybe there is hope?
Does your rotor have silver in it?
no
Why you guys Just Do Not make an exact replica of the liberty engine and prove or disprove It. Your not working constructs are yours but nit the liberty engine.
overunity is impossible... but best of luck to everyone waste your time however you see fit
Ротор, з тетану, він підказував, не не один, чи 2, сплави, і підказував, що прийшлось застосувати, спеціальні інструменти, для обробки ротора, .
You need to wire together all 3 oppisite pairs then tie one leg of each set together, leaving 3 wires or legs this is now a 3 phase alternator
I may try it down the road. I am working on a 500 rpm 2 Kw rare earth magnet generator and a 3 hp 12 v motor to turn it and draw off of the output to charge a battery soon. Saving up for the components right now.
nice thank you
Think trying to make it better made it not work? Do it like he did?
Did you catch the freshly dug ground in his video?
what i see to not testing correct if they did they would get exactly the same out as in if plugged in DOH
so the magnets and coils are for running not power output. all you achieved is to dispel yourself.
No I proved Hidden Tech is total BS.
NO got your answer wrong also you only proved you don't understand much.
I only built this to see if possibly there post proved legitimate power production. I am glad that you are an expert but you do not need to insult me anymore for only a moron would continue to be abusive. I got ya' mickey now get off of it or your banned from my channel. By the way where is the video of your free energy device? Furthermore take a look at how Chris Harbour in Wales used a water wheel and an electric motor to make 1000 plus w with capacitors exciting the electro magnet and getting the coils to produce power.
@@mickcherie1
gresit realizat!!nu este corect ca si cel original de aceea nu functioneaza
Many changes to be dun ….😊😊😊😊
There must be something your doing wrong. Keep at and do some better research. Maybe the liberty motor puts power to the magnets adding more of a field to generate more power. I like your project keep posting videos of you project. I subscribed
Thanks for the info. I used a 110 1 hp vevor motor but did not get but a small amount of volts. I am going to try a 1 Kw permanent magnet motor with a strong 12v motor. I seen a video of an Indian guy making 300volts from it.
Хорошо гудит ! А где энергия ?
the way u installed rotor its wrong way totally
Przesuń cewki na sam dół rdzeni.
I can't see anything. Please 🥺🙏 do way better with your camera work. Or use 2 cameras and close ups
I have already disassembled this unit. Sorry about the camera work being sort of hard to see.
sir , i'm curious 'bout whether you purposely made da rotor using da same shit & technology which is aluminum & silver alloy jst like da liberty engine video does, or you jst using the standard rotor from your junk yard that you can find? cuz how people can tell, if you're testing results legit or not, since you're doing it differently.? ( i mean, the materials, the wiring methods, & the treatment ) . And even so u're not put da rotor fully into da coils area, cuz i can see that clearly in your video. i mean, if u wanna make some knd of comparison, it suppose to be apple to apple . well, just wanna make that clear tho . And i wont hate you at all cuz of that. peace
Титан наоборот є до того парамагнітним, це може бути +
Your not a serious student 😅
It will never ever work. 🤦♂️ Go back to school...