1,000 Amp Stick Welding with Weld.com
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Did you ever think you'd see a 3/4" diameter welding rod? Me neither! Jason from @Welddotcom invited me down to their shop to let me run one of these monster electrodes. Not just any welding machine will run this thing either. We used the Red-D-Arc DC 1000 welding machine that was being fed by a large diesel generator to provide the current needed to weld the Coromet F25 electrode. After I weld it, Jason does a cut and etch so we can see the penetration this rod performed on the butt joint. The results were pretty amazing! This rod is actually used in a controlled and mechanized procedure and commonly used for the repair of slag pots in the foundry industry.
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This may come in handy if you need to weld 2 freight ships together I guess.
Best prank ever.
Or 2 planets
😂
Right. If you succeed to put the ships flat.
*ul0
This isn't stick welding anymore, this is branch welding.
Dude you win the internet today.
Trunk welding
How about thats stick welding, and the normal one is twig welding?
I wanna know abou log welding
🤣🤣🤣 ...you ain't bullshitin
Loved seeing this. In the mid 70s I worked for Sisco, a division of Hilti doing repair work in the steel mills. Used the same setup to repair slag pots that were about 15 feet in diameter, laid on their side. We would use torches to burn out the cracks and then fill the resulting gouges with however many rods it took. I think we welded at 750 amps. You would pull in a pallet to stand on and it would eventually catch fire and your boots would be smoking. Of course there was no fume extraction. We also did some diabolical thermite welding, recasting the bottoms of ingot molds that had burned through. Also wrapping ingot molds with two by eight foot sheets of half inch steel to reinforce them, bending it around with blow torches at the corners and a come along. Nailed them on with 45 caliber Hilti guns about 4 inches on center. Talk about loud when you had 3 or 4 guys going at it at the same time. Quite the experience. This was in NW Indiana. Republic and Inland if I remember correctly. Thanks for the great video and the great reminder.
750 sounds like you'd get better results....I'd think you'd max out at 800 amps on a flat
Imagine getting that electrode stuck
It was a pleasure working with you again Adam! You're welcome back to the shop anytime you're in the area.
Whoa...somehow I'd forgotten a 1316 was the ground side version of a 6092. Semper Fi. 6092 1999-2004
What was the name of that super good grinding wheel? I need that in my life!
Y’all need to hit up that 10% nital etch so you can see the welds better
leghumper83 Semper Fi. 1316 2001-2005 🤘🔥
Jim Jones it’s called a Victograin from Pferd abrasives. They are by far the best I’ve ever used.
I don't think it is fair to call that a "puddle" more like a lake.
im in welding shop right now in highschool. we are currently on stick welding unit.... and let me say, stick welding is so far the funniest and most satisfying thing.
I have never in my life seen a human being literally hand weld with one of these rods. We always used them on a machine and kept our distance, lol. That is nuts, I'm sharing this with some old coworkers.
I was thinking his feet and legs must have gotten hot as hell.
Thanks for coming down to the shop Adam. It was great welding with you. Stop by anytime.
in a welding class in the early 70s, they showed a film of welding the huge thick WW2 battleship plating. they used LONG huge electrodes that were supported on one end, creating a tripod effect. the electrodes were self feeding. As it got shorter, it just tilted further and further until it burned itself out. One person could supervise a bunch of these, setting up new rod when one used itself up. Probably rods like this one, but way longer.
That would be awesome to know more. Even if it could be weighted to run the proper feed it is still a cool idea.
My back and shoulders are still hurting from just watching,,,At 19 (1972) I passed certification in arc welding, 2 yrs later, in mig. I was the youngest apprentice out of IronWorkers Local 263 Ft. Worth TX. and spent 9 + in the trade. Today, I still love to weld, but my tig skills on alum are still to be desired (@@)! Jason has been along with Jody great help,,13 months away from 70,,,I better practice more,,,hehe! Thx guys, great video,,Bear.
That’s actually a 1/16 7018 rod, and those guys are gnomes. 😂
That's no welder. That's a handheld electric arc furnace.
Portable sun
When I first saw that rod, I thought that it had to be a demo joke, like the oversized rocker in front of a restaurant. Great video
Why are people saying it's a bad weld? Of course it's gonna not be up to snuff, it's just guys messing with a stick that's meant for automation, never manual hand welding. Still cool to see a big ass electrode like that in action.
Developed by Weld Mold Company in the 1960's, the 3/4" X 36" coated electrode is in use primarily in the forging industry for the repair of forge tooling, using as much as 2,000 amps, depositing 60+ pounds per hour.
Free after the Crocodile Dundee Films "That's not a welding rod - THAT is a welding rod!" :)
I worked at a place where the owner purchased a used high amperage Westinghouse arc welding machine for the shop. I couldn’t understand why that machine came with two ground cables and a water cooled electrode holder. Now I know it was once used for large diameter welding electrodes.
"today we'll be using a volcano to weld the San Andreas fault back together"
maxi lol
Imagine welding with this in OVERHEAD position.
Um no
@@7.62flavorsoffreedom2 yeah no..
You can do it. *ONCE*
When you ask for a 10 pound box of rods they hand you one rod.
A stub...
🤣🤣
Is a 13 lens even dark enough ?
My first job as a heavy equipment mechanic for Brown And Root was running a service truck in a Phillips refinery in Old Ocean Texas. We worked on everything from small vibratory sand packers to 4600 Manitowoc cranes and hundreds of welding machines. CBI ( Chicago Bridge and Iron ) was also there building sphere tanks for the expansion. I got called to go get one of their large welders started one day and they were welding and back gouging these sphere tanks at the tank farm. The foreman gave me a couple of welding rods that were not quite that big and some gouging rods just for souvenirs. They had a 1000 amp stud welder that had a 6-71 Detroit for power that was pretty cool. Also a gang of smaller stud welders that welded insulation hangers on. I hated damp foggy mornings because they had close to two hundred older Lincoln gasoline DC machines with magneto ignition and were a pain to get running. Later they replaced them with diesels and once power was in the units eight bank electrics were installed. Took a load off of our job.
Imagine sticking that rod
Oof E7018 is a good rod but annoying as hell when it sticks
Good LORD, I've welded for the better part of 30 years and have never seen a rod that big!!
That's what she......never mind.
Finally an Abom sized welding rod
Imagine sticking the rod by accident and having to get the damn grinder out just to get it off
I don't think you could stick that. Unless you turn off the power mid-weld
Super scary 1000 amp welder.
If it stuck, you run like hell, and hope you can shut off the power before the 1000 amp dead short explodes.
Imagine sticking
😂😂😂 if it was 7018 I'm sure he would have
Funny how things change. Years ago Red D Arc was a small Canadian company that only did business in Canada. They had a fellow named Henry Cole who was in charge of research and development. Henry was the guy who came up with the idea of using Lincoln generators attached to Kubota diesels. He tried a number of variants before hitting on the Kubota and he knew he had a winner. Reliable and fuel efficient the Red D Arc diesel welder soon started to rival Lincoln in sales in Canada. Henry wanted to start selling machines to the States but upper management kiboshed the idea. Seems they didn't want to upset Lincoln in their home base. So Henry being the guy he was hit on another tack to get machines into the US. He found a couple of rental outfits that had branches in the States that were willing to buy machines and then export them to their American operations. The Americans soon grew to love these machines but they could only rent them. A couple of users determined that they wanted to own machines instead of rent them so they found out where the machines came from and called to see if they could buy them direct from the manufacturer. Red D Arc's management had a long heart to heart with Henry when they figured out what he had done but they decided that they couldn't turn down the sales so Red D Arc started exporting to the US. Today Red D Arc has machines all over the place and they are considered one of the best around as seen here.
One of their best portable machines is the three cylinder DX. It's about 600 pounds lighter than a full sized DC and you can easily carry one around with a 1/2 ton truck. Being a full AC rectified machine, it can also be used as a light plant and actually has a 200 volt single phase outlet on the panel. It truly blows the doors off of Lincoln's Ranger line which it is comparable to.
As for Henry, well there was a falling out and he ended up working for AIr Liquide / Miller before he retired. He was a good man and I liked doing business with him.
Interesting
Thanks for the history. It is always interesting to me to see the subtleties of human interactions. That in some way, God is still working to enable human ingenuity to bless neighbors near and far!
Sounds like Henry Cole had a lot in common with Henry Ford :)
Or that humans are able to function without relying on fairy stories in these enlightened times.
Nice editing suite with one of the most ridiculously oversized monitors ever. I do like that 1000A welding equipment. Any idea what the open circuit output voltage on the welder is? I'd guess it might still be fairly low like 80V despite the thickness of the flux coating on those rods.
bigclivedotcom Lincoln Electric manufactures the DC-1000s for Red-D-Arc. The OCV on them is 78V.
I was wondering about this, too. 1100 amps at 80V is furious wattage, for sure. Possibly more than a Pound Land combination dental pick and stick welder.
I didn't know you watched the channel 😂 nice to see you on here ! I hope you're staying safe and well😁
@bigclivedotcom the OCV is purposely held under 90V for safety.. anyone who's ever grabbed a deck rod (6022) with wet gloves will agree.. getting belted for the giggles of it... isn't exactly fun.
Nice to see you here, hope all is well
Imagine turning a beginner loose with those bad boys. Arrow heads are an understatement. Get stuck and you snatch the whole work off the table and swat the worker behind you with it.
This is usually my go-to for welding sheet metal together
same! This would be the perfect method for the razor blade test
That's impressive. I've made welds that size before, but I used twin 3/32 wire sub arc welding on big giant earth moving wheels. Them parts do get hot. Can't imagine that heat wearing leathers, like you did. Way cool video, thanks from an old retired welder.
Might need to be wearing an X-Ray apron for that one!!!
The marvels of modern technology and Engineering, with a puddle the size of a small ocean. It's Beautiful.
you've heard of stick welding? this is branch welding.
you mean trunk welding? cuz I don't thing there is any bigger than that one or is there?
@@Astrix_Jaeger i absolutely did, I wasn't sure if people would get it since "trunks" can be other things. But your question led me to ponder(obsessively google). Found one post where I guy describes repairing foundations of 100+ton cranes use 3-5" electrodes. No way for me to know if thats true or not. then there's furnace electrodes which are "non consumable" are usually several feet wide & 10's of feet long.
and the top google results for biggest stick welding rod, are this video & various listings for it.
my verdict: these are king & already larger than intended to be held by a human.
I’ve been welding for 30+ years and have never seen a rod like that. Damn that’s a serious electrode.
Same, i have trouble convincing our weld suppliers that 6mm is a thing.
The fume extractor: finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary
Now I can weld my aircraft carrier to my Virginia class submarine.
That’s not a weld pool, it’s a weld lake!
This is Kimchi Welder who is uploading welding video in Canada. I have never seen such a large electrode!😍😍😍😍😍
This isn’t stick welding, it’s log welding!! I’ll be honest, I just tapped on this video thinking it was gonna be a review of some BangGood “1000w super welder” from China but you were serious!! You earned my sub! Take care and God Bless! (And stay out of those fumes😱)
Thanks. I was not sure how I was ever going to fix those rusty quarter panels on my car. 😆
My father worked in the Warren Mich Tank plank from 1973-1988 and he brought some rods home this big to show off a few times over those years. Apperantly the rods were used for welding down engine mounts and hull seam welds.
these rods are only 22 bucks. im ordering one for a home decoration. i weld for a living
“Only”
@Brad D hahaha that’s perfect
Where do you order a rod this big?
Did you ever get one?
Also good for any errant cracks in the Earth's crust.
As an iron worker, boilermaker and CWI for 40 years I promise you would be scarfing that crap back out lol.
although I did get to run a DC 1000 with a auto scarfer back gouging the circ seams on 2" thick tanks for Hanford Nuclear.
"What's that whining noise?" "Oh, that's just the power meter spinning up."
Not a welder but I am an engineer. I suspect reason that the weld is actually shallow and wide is **possibly** (assuming you're running AC) is because at 1000A you're experiencing skin effect. When you're using two grounds and two hot wires, the skin effect in the wires is reduced because the total skin volume is increased due to there being two wires. But in the actual plates being welded the current that high causes the electron flow (which heats the metal) to stick close to the surface without penetrating deeply, because the current that high creates its own magnetic fields, which induce eddy currents and squeeze electron flow towards the outer edges of the conductor.
More on the physics of skin effect: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect
The welder is called DC 1000. I suspect it is a DC only machine. The AC frequency of welders is usually under 200Hz, where the skin effect is pretty much neglectable.
The would really need an arc lenght the diameter of the rod or greater.. but trying to pick it up and hold it would woop your butt without a jig... soo they got arc blow and cold puddle because the arc was buried in the plate..
@@metalhammerish But is it a pulsed DC? Or constant current DC?
@@metalhammerish IIRC, the skin depth at 60 Hz is about 8.5 mm. It would be useful to know whether the "DC" we're talking about is filtered, or just DC in the sense that the waveform never dips negative.
I have no experience with how high power welders are built, but with other power electronics.
I suspect that the current waveform is 1000 amps DC with around 100 amps of some kind of AC current on top. So no, it is most definitely not just a rectified sinusoidal or other pulsed current
You can weld tectonic plates with this stuff
No more earthquakes
1000 amps is insane. That's enough to instantly pass you on to the next life and the one after that.
100 mA = 0,1 Amps is deadly.
This will prob instantly vaporize you
@@stonedmountainunicorn9532 mf had his hand on the rod
@@JimBob-eg7vq not enough volts
@@JimBob-eg7vq the electric current is completed through the ground. The guy is not grounded to the machine. There fore no electricity will pass through him
You could touch both ground an the cathode and annode, as the voltage is about 45 volts, which is pretty safe. The Current is controlled by the resistance of the human body, it would be really small. But if this was in contact before, you could burn yourself.
That puddle legitimately scares me
That is completely ridiculous. I want to play with it.
Shotgun!
Holy mackeral. That's like pouring molten metal out of a garden hose. I WANT one!
I used to run these flooding forge die's for over a decade. We mostly used 3/8" weld mold 525 rods. The main process we used was Eureka flux core wire N2, N3, tri-core 35, tri-core 450 and 650 gmaw w/ 92/8 on a flood arm. With that job metallurgy came in a step above standard welding procedures. Preheat, prep, peen, annealing was a larger part of the process than actually welding and you couldnt have any imperfections. We ran 1200 amp Miller machines.
That’s not a weld puddle, that’s a fricking pond.
Love the close up shots. By the way Chuck Norris uses a 3/4" welding rod to stir his coffee in the morning! ☕ ⚡ 🇺🇲
Instead of watching your puddle you watch your lake with this rod
The last time I saw one of these was in Cameron Iron Works in Houston Texas in 1982. They were used for repairing the 11,000 ton extrusion press dies. Ah yes .... memories!!
Imagine if the rod stuck 😳
You’ll need a diesel truck with a winch to unstick it, for sure
@@wendysobamaman2179 & Fire Dept on speed dial
@@wendysobamaman2179 lol or a 4" angle grinder with a $2 cut off wheel.
Kinda want to see it done overhead just to see the chaos, but you'd need to find a robot. Or an intern.
LOL
That's not a weld puddle - that's a weld POND!
Сергей Котиков almost thought you were going for a crocodile Dundee reference there, still upvoted
Yeah that's ok for small welding jobs what ya got for the big jobs?
You don’t stack dimes you stack pancakes 😂
Jesus, that’s not a puddle. That’s oceanfront property.
That's not "reading the weld puddle"... that's "reading the molten swimming pool."
Needing this kind of penetration to be perfect is the reason that submerged arc welding (SMAW) is a perfected process that remains obscure to welding beginners.
This is SMAW, shielded metal arc welding. Submerged arc welding is SAW. .
Now this is a clear view at the arc. Man that was tight.
huh......never seen a 3/4 in weld rod let alone someone weld with one, till now......and the lava that thing put out...wow........amazing
It’s not a stick, it’s a spear.
You don’t watch the puddle, you watch the ocean.
The welders your girlfriend tells you not to worry about 😂
Wow this is amazing..
During my training years I used to refurbish Jaw crusher mainframes some with deep wear on the 60mm plates needed to be filled and we only had MMA which was so slow eventhough we used 5mm rods...
So I came up with a plan where I tacked 2 rods together side by side, turned up my Miller DC machine on high range and amazingly would be able to weld with them.. they would fuse at the centre and give out a single arc with double the deposit rate... But with a very fluid pool.. my colleagues tried and failed to maintain a stable arc... I was crowned champion at it as I produced consistent sound beads but never attempted to use on joint welding
11:10 "What did it feel like holding all that"? I ask my wife that same question all the time.😂
"Hey can you weld these two buildings together?"
"Sure can, let me whip out my 1,000 amp welder"
thats one beast of a welder. 1000 amps @ 44 volts @ 100% duty cycle is impressive. no wonder it needs that generator, 480 volt input @ 100 amps! most shops dont have 100 amp pin and sleeve connectors for 480 volts
That puddle is the biggest puddle Ive ever seen that wasn't molten lava
Watch videos about thermal lancing with 20mm lance. Hand held Etna.
Next 3/4" overhead welding
Indian style, t shirt, shorts and flipflops....
10:22 I reached for my welding helmet, and it's 20 miles from here.
That thing's not a welding rod, that's a welder's weapon of choice
imagine using that thing and it sticks. You'd need a cut off wheel to get it off
Imagine getting this electrode stuck in the weld. It ain’t ever coming out
i dunno, hes got a 3 ft lever & a wall of grinding wheels
why? set the welder on 1 000 000 amps momentarily so the electrode melts gets soft like bubble gum then you can pull it off.
6:46 the closest glimpse we have of hell
I pulled an old stick welder transformer out of the dust recently, it belonged to my late dad. got rid of the rusted case and made a new one of wood. It's only 130 Amp max and can handle 3.25mm max, but that is enough for me. I intend to build a racing kart.
I guess you gotta break out a torch if you stuck a rod that size.
Imagine it getting stuck
I get the feeling that Safety Squints, Double Rubber, and Mother on Speed Dial isn't enough Carefuling for this particular application!
Galon in the welding pull, tremendous termo zone, huge welding machine. What for all this!? ;) Just fun.
Absolutely wicked!!!! I can’t believe that you man handled a 1100 amp stick welder!!! Holy Crankey!!! Incredible!!!!
Weld beads are called puddles, but usually only the size of a large drop of water. This? Now this is a real puddle.
It’s a whole river
yah I kept thinking, "is 'bead' the right word?"
Never mind puddle - How about a POND!
Хочется самому проорать голосом Доктора ГЛАЗААААААААА!!!!!!!!!
The guy has that welding swelling eyes, you know from welding all day. Keep on rock'n guys.
Pro Tip:" Always chip flux away from you." Small chance of getting some in your eyes. If it's still hot it will burn you. How many welders out there that have had one stuck to their lip? That hurts like hell.
Had one burn my eyelid...never chipping towards me again 😂
I had one flick into my tear duct. It got between my safety Goggles and my nose. 😢 ouch
Weld puddle? More like lava flow.
@7m: That's not a bead. That's an ocean of molten metal. I expected to see a Coast Guard ship sail up to your arc.
I don't imagine you are going to do much overhead welding with that rig.
Oh yes, now i can finally weld my intergalactic destroyer to my death star
If u need to weld with 3/4 then something went horribly wrong
Fitter was on the break so the welder did fitting himself
I run a 3/4 rod but my old lady handles it like a pro
Does she say its still too small😔
Yea but what's the diameter :-(
When I lived in Canada, I knew a guy who worked pipeline in northern Alberta who welded with high power welders like this. He said you could recognize welders because the seat of their insulated coveralls were scorched. Apparently, when they would get cold, they'd run a bead along a pipe and turn around and sit on it to warm up.
Lol
That's not a weld, that's a lava stream. I have been in welding and metalworking for decades, but i never knew about a 1000 amp rod. I have a rod that size, but it is actually a thermal lance. Imagine the shrinkage of that weld.
Looks like what grandma used in the shipping yards during WWII