John Deere Tandem 830 Articulated
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Necessity is the mother of invention. In the days before heavy articulated AWD tractors, ingenious solutions such as this where common in areas of large scale prairie farming, sadly, few examples survive. This tractor is one of the earliest prototypes of what became a series of 97 units built to answer a lack of heavy implement pulling power in central Alberta in the 1960's. Built by machinist Glen Munroe in Didsbury, Alberta, these unique tractors became known locally as "Munroe Hitches". This unit was the second built and has been lovingly restored and preserved by the Spreeman family as it was built. Power is delivered from two highly modified John Deer 830 diesel tractors run in tandem and delivering roughly 135 horsepower to the drawbar from both of it's 7.7 litre two cylinder engines. The Munroe Hitch eliminated both front axles, thus steering is provided hydraulically from a centre pivot, articulated with hydraulic rams with pressure provided from the front engine. All forward controls except starting inputs are slaved to the rear cab via a series of articulated linkages, allowing throttle, clutch and gear selection to be done from the rear operators platform. These tractors represented big power on the prairie until the advent of mass produced, company built articulated tractors over half a decade later in the mid to late 60's. Filmed at Pioneer Acres Museum, Irricana, Alberta.
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Allow me to clarify. This tractor was built like this from new, it was not done recently. 830's like these are somewhat rare now, they where not back then. Therefore, no rare tractors where desecrated to make this unique machine, this is how it has always existed.
Rainhill1829 pnk
Pardon?
Well i am sure the extra power was appreciated, and put to good use.If you had 80 horsepower in the the 60's , you were happy!
Indeed it was.
I di not say this was (Don Dufner) the first. I did not know about this was done by the factory.
I had a neighbor coupble 2 together in 1964. They did it themselves on the farm and had the local welder come and reweld everything again. This was in southern Alberta, south of Burdett.
Amazing, got to love that classic two cylinder sound!
Now in tandem tone!
I bet you the guy who owned this back in the day was super proud of it and I bet you every one of his neighbors was jealous
Let us see it at work.
She does have a pull video, sadly it barely makes her puff.
I sure hope this marvel is still at pioneer acres
Its very similar to the one that that my father made in didsbury
Dads farm was in olds
This one was built in Didsbury as well! Yes she is still around, although it is privately owned so it travels around.
Over the years I've seen a couple 830s married. The first one was back in the 60s at Hereford Colorado. Blake Ranches.
Very cool machine, wish I had it.
Yeah its a real treat to see in real life.
Two gasoline starter motors + two diesel motors = Tractor with four motors 👀👀👍👍
Plus two electric starter motors for two gasoline motors... Six motors!!!
Estos JD de 2 cilindros todavia se ven en mi pais .son indestructibles ;solo amontonan años ,pero hay que hecharle buenos para seguirles el tranco .
Gracias, tractores fantásticos.
лайк! интересная техника, привет из Белоруссии!
Спасибо, привет из Канады!
Left dazed and confused in awe with drool mouth wide ajar then I woke up and uncrossed my shutters 😜
Lol.
The DDA40X of tractors
That's very true, the DD40 was basically two SD-40's welded together wasn't it?
Rainhill1829 two 3300HP locomotives, 4 traction motors per instead of 6 on one. I think so. Fuel tank is huge.
That's what I call a mans tractor two bad jd if it's not green it's not to be seen it is what it is yall
So neither of these had a pivot axle? What about when it hit bumps or uneven ground? Would one of the four wheels come up into the air? Or is Alberta just so perfectly flat that it never came up as a problem in the first place?
I believe there is a small pivot under the front tractor that offered limited flexing in the middle, then again this unit is the second one built and was still in the prototype phase so small bugs still existed in the design.
The first of this kind that I seen was from N.D. Don Dufner made several years ago
There seemed to be a lot of parallel developments with this idea, plenty of folks with good idea's and tool at the ready.
That sure is an awful lot of time and effort to drive around on the grass. I'd like to see this colossal machine do some work.
Occasionally it does, I will try to catch it doing some work someday.
Does this tractor have a pony motor to start the larger diesels, is that what I’m seeing?
Yes, you saw it used twice in this video.. was an option to have the pony motor or electric start.
I understand the Deere concept of simplicity and practicality in design, but doesn't this depart from it? All of this mass encompassing only 4 cylinders of effective power.
At the time it was built there was no other options, the farmers in the area needed big pulling power for heavy tillage and no tractor manufacturer could accommodate them.
Canadians,one man non-factory implements,big acreage, get it done.!
That's right.
Combien de marque on co struit des tracteurs tandem
Where was this Located ?
Pioneer Acres Museum of Irricana, Alberta.
You would need a Flag Man at an intersection to tell you if is clear to pull out .. Or maybe there are no Trees in Alberta and you can see for miles .. At least it would cost a lot less then a new factory rig ..
Most country roads are pretty treeless but yes it would be kind of a bother to take blind corners.
Man that's cool wonder how many horse power in all. So there are two different hand clutches? I would just put them both together.
Thanks so much for watching again, if TractorData.com is accurate (which it often is), she puts about 135hp to the drawbar. They road transport it between fields with only the front engine running, so they kept the clutches separate to allow one engine to have a snooze between fields.
put both ingnition switches in the rear
Later ones did I believe, this one was a early prototype so it had a few interesting design quirks.
More of that JD "2-cyclinder reliability" principle put to work in a great combination. That alone amazes me there are only 4 pistons in this beast. It appears the mechanical linkages and controls pretty much required this be operated from the rear.
Was this unit ever used for any field / farm applications or strictly for proof of concept / show?
Thanks a ton for watching, this unit spent years hard at work in the field even though it was only the second one built and the design was still being perfected, it worked just fine considering the untested nature of the concept.
Anyone ever make a triple one of these? Three units, three axles, six tires?
As a matter of fact yes. There is one fully restored using three International 660 diesels not far from where I live and it is my goal to film it some day.
@@Rainhill1829 Holy smokes man you simply must video that. If you don't, no one will believe you!
I hate seeming these, two rare and such sought after tractors turned into this but as you said there was a need for something like this lol
To be fair, they where converted pretty much the day they where first bought, this was the only way they ever where.
Rainhill1829 true most of there where bought from Deere direct and in bulk and converted into this by an outside company. I just want a 830! Lol
That's right, train loads of these showed up in my town in the 50's and where pretty much converted out of the crate. Wish I had a 830 too.
I wouldn't really call 830s rare
True, but out of production.
my dad put 2 j.d. r s together
Not a fan of these articulated tractors. Look weird. Functionality? Why?
2x the horsepower to the ground at a time when that much power simply wasn't available from the factory.
Herkules ok
Hahaaa yup.
What was the purpose these tractors were made, it does not make any sense, other wise cool machine
Some large farms on the prairies had implements custom built that no tractor in existence at the time could pull, so they built these tractors to haul them. Tractor companies took notice and within a few years began to build their own and market them to the public, that is where the modern articulated units came from.
more horse power to get the work done faster the only thing I can think of
Production Ag has along history of becoming more efficient. Before 4wd drive tractors such as the stieger were available, or because a farmer didn't want to pay for one, they may build one of their own. This machine would probably do more in one day than two tractors and drivers could.
@@jasonkarels6202 or at the very least the same amount without having to pay an extra person
Drawbar horsepower.
Triple D anyone?
That would be legendary.
d.i.y 4wd
From need came innovation.