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Gyarados / Alakazam vs Haymaker - Old School Pokemon Tabletop Gameplay
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2018
- Andrew Mahone plays his classic Haymaker deck vs Natalie Shampay's Gyarados / Alakazam using cards from the original Pokemon Trading Card Game Base Set! Which vintage deck will prevail in this clash of titans? Watch and find out!
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At one point in the game Natalie KOS her own chansey with alakazams power but the card reads explicitly that you can’t do that!! This wouldn’t have changed the result of the game however as I would have been forced to ko the chansey with my hitmonchan and things would have proceeded the same. Thanks for the catch guys!
She also forgot to discard energy after using Pokemon Center...
NDogg15 thanks for pointing that out
@@TechHug no she moved a damage counter off the chansey and didn't heal it with pokemon center making it not lose the energy
@@gdfghd One Chansey had 2 damage counters but she also had a DCE attached to her as well. Natalie should've removed the DCE from that Chansey.
I was literally about to make this comment before I seen the same thing I was going to write , I saw her knock her own Pokémon out I was going nuts like noooo you can’tttt 😂
Other people collect base set and leave it in a folder. I collected Base set to make battle decks and actually play the TCG. Love these vids
Same.
I do both… you can imagine how that one goes 🤣
How many good decks can be made with base set?
@@redgoesface1671 Don't think you could make a deck that would be good by today's standards but there were a few powerful options back then
Same. Base-fossil for me. I have : Raindance, Venucenter and Gengar/Mewtwo ☺️ Venusaur is my favourite deck!
It's really strange that Magikarp is weak to lightning and Gyarados is weak to grass considering their respective typings.
There used to be SWAMPERTs weak to lightning
In the gameboy version Gyarados could learn lighting moves .
It's either a typo by Wizards (not too uncommon), or maybe because Gyarados is prevalent in storms.
Gyarados and Articuno were in my Blastoise deck only to stand of Electrabuz... Was hard work!
These tabletop videos are awesome. The cards on the side are super sweet, and the commentary is insightful and helpful to someone like me who doesn't know this format at all.
I wish i could affort to buy some of these old Pokemon cards. Not to invest but to have huge fun with them. I grew up durin these times but always slept on the pokemon card game because i was so into yugioh on a competitve level. I wish i spend more time on the pokemon card game
You can definitely buy these in bad shape for not that much money. It’s only the good condition ones that are expensive
Tcg player for the most part is affordable. Your stage 2 kanto starters are probably to expensive but everything else is fairly affordable so long as you aren't looking for Mint cards
You can download a rom of the tcg on Gameboy color, play it with an emulator.
@@imma5269 He could but it's nothing like playing against an actual person rather than an NPC.
@@skillracoonful sure, still really fun though
Love watching these; already starting building/buying some old school decks :)
I have watched so many of these old school tcg videos! Please continue to make them!
Love these old school videos! Keep em coming!
Liked before the first ad ended. Keep these coming!
Do more table top plays with old cards! Super amazing stuff! Just subscribed!
Whata great video. You two are great ! It was so much fun to watch.
Excellent!!! I asked and I received. Thanks for the superb content. These take more work I imagine and I appreciate it!
This is a harder match up for Haymaker imo. You really need both attacker's powered up to actually be able to take 6 prizes. Decking out is always a fear playing against Gyarados.
Great game! Loving these old school deck lists :D
actually, plus power does do extra dmg when electabuzz misses thunderpunch. I just came off of a ptcg for the gameboy binge
16:13 to anyone wondering why she didn’t remove the energy from gyrados when she played pokemon center, it’s because she moved it to the second gyrados before playing it.
Great video guys, loving the screen setup. Keep it all coming 🙌
In my country people play old school first sets until end of wizards era. Hope to see that format some day in YT with this quality of ser up !
Very nice playmats guys
I love watching these videos
Great video!!
I love the Symmetry of her board state at 25 mins in, the Chansey in middle, tucked between two Alakazams, who are covered safely by 2 more Chansey bodyguards.
Stall decks are great. I remember as a teen that I had a deck utilising Dark Tyranitar to wear down the opponent's deck. Didn't always work, but the damage Dark Tyranitar dealt meant you didn't have to rely on just stalling; you could switch strategy if you had the right Trainer cards. I'll have to try to remember what that old deck's build was.
Hi, i have a lot of first expansions pokemon cards, i’d like to use them in an “old school” format, does it comprehend only the base set? I’d really like a pokemon format ranging from base set to team rocket! But the max limit would be the gym series
I think we need to remove all energy cards to use Pokémon centre
Fossil Gastly seems like a good counter to Hitmonchan as well, and it hits for weakness. But it's Interesting to see base only gameplay, nice vid
Oh no, that Kadabra playmat is adorable!! haha =D
What are the sleeves used!? They look so smooth when doing the waterfall shuffle!
Where can I find that misty play mat! That’s awesome
Lit. Blast from the past. 😃
Yay you guys are back to old tabletop. Can you guys play Zoroark Lyconrock Vs Ultra Necrozma Im currios how the matchup would be. Nice PlayMats I Love this channel and I will be here everyday
Glad I found this. Always was curious about what it would've been like to actually have played Pokemon cards back when I was a kid.
I never bothered because I thought "Prize Cards" meant if you lost, your opponent get to keep one of them at random as their prize.
Bro that’s nothing. When a cards said “discard your hand draw 7 cards” we just tossed our hand on the table and drew 7.
Hi! Great video! Would you be so kind to share the 2 decks lists? :) thanks in advance!
What are the white dice you're using? Those look clean.
Omg awesome games
What kind of sleeves do you use?
I liked the vid, but at 39:00 the Alakazam ability says that you cant move energies to knock out another of your pokemon
Yep! I am sorry this was an oversight on our part and will be fixed for future matches! Fortunately I don’t think it changed the outcome of the game
You can use the generations electabuzz too.
where did you get these decks
Alakazam got so much better when both Fossil and Neo came out. Fossil gave the deck Cowardice Tentacool and Neo gave Metal energy for Chansey
Been getting into reading old cards I only collected as a kid, would love to see something based around Electrode and Poliwrath and other moms geared towards doing bench damage
Check out Dark Raichu and Dark ARbok from the next set, Team Rocket. Very fun bench damage cards.
What’s the deck list for that gyradose deck?
Could someone explain me why is hitmonchan so good? I've started playing old tcg with my friends and I would like insight on these older decks
Kind of a late reply, but Hitmonchan is a basic Pokemon with high HP and does 20 damage for 1 energy. It's used as a wallbreaker because it hits for weakness on Chansey and in the Jungle expansion, Wigglytuff.
It can get a lot of donks in combination with pluspower.
The Base Set Rattata wasn't bad for this reason either. Could hit for 20 damage for a cost of 1 Energy, and then could retreat without cost. Not a bad card to use if you're a beginner and don't have a broad collection :D.
The Pokémon TCG online could upload all this collections, I miss so much to play old formats
Can u do another dawn wings necrozma/necrozma/malamar deck
16:24 wasn't the gyarados supposed to discard her energy after using the pokemon center?
Doesn’t haymaker run scyther? Which would hit gyarados for weakness
They're only using Base Set cards. Otherwise she could just wall with Mr Mime and move the damage counters to a benched Chansey.
in the gameboy game pluspower extra hurts electabuzz as well
Chansey is a BIG Balloon, that's way: 1 retreat cost!
By the way, I like how you play everything. I am a pretty good OG player from the base tile Neo Genesis.
I think that's was the best era ofcours, but I recently starting after more that 25 years play the new TGC. And i like it! I need to learn the V max and all the things (level 3).
Just 4 funzie!!!❤😂❤
Awesome! Awesome! Awesome! "Pure juice! BUSTED!"
I miss this era
Was supposed to remove energy cards after using pokemon center from what I read
@16:22 how come the energy on gyarados remained? I thought Pokémon center removed the energy on every Pokémon?
SFSX3 that was a mistake on my end, i meant to move the damage off it before i pokemon centered
@16:22 By using Pokémon center trainer card, can I remove damage counters from Pokémon that DO NOT have energy cards attached to them ?
She actually did move those damage counters to the other Gyarados (which didnt have energy attached) with Alakazams ability before using Pokemon Center, so she didnt have to discard any energy on either Gyarados.
@@stardrumming yes, the same way full heal can be used on pokemon with no energy in the modern tcg.
Where I find this game?
What is the gyrazam deck list
Rapid evolution magikarp FTW!!!! needs 2 put in deck asap
39:00 I am pretty sure Alakazam can't knock an ally pokemon with it's pokepower
Do you still sell the mats?
No decklist? :(
I want to try buying the Alakazam/Gyarados deck
It's on Jason Klaczynski's (sp?) blog. Look for Base Set format. The deckllists for the decks used here are listed there.
Yes :-) super Energie Absauger is the german card
Imagine if there was a victini kind of card during base set era.... 😲
Not from that set but there was for Gym Heroes it was called Sabrina's ESP but it only worked on her Pokemon iirc.
good old times
How is damage swap allowed?
Gyarados works better with blastoise's rain dance, you need more speed. In other format you can use gyarados and alakazam but with aerodactyl Neo, combine the Pokemon powers, so gyarados can use rage of magikarp and control the damage
Rain Dance decks didn't come good until it got decent partners in fossil. Namely Lapras and Articuno. Electabuzz is a major problem for Raindance decks. Both Electabuzz and Hitmonchan can get knockouts right away due to the best water attackers being evolution's.
@@Mitjitsu Not sure I agree there, though it's definitely a fair point. I think it depends on what role the Blastoise is going to play in the deck. You could use it similarly to how the Alakazams were used here (i.e., not intending to use it to attack). Pop a Squirtle on the Bench when your hand is loaded with Energy cards, then use Pok'emon Breeder to evolve it into a Blastoise, allowing you to attach a massive number of Energy cards to Gyarados in one go, and then you can always use a Scoop Up or save a Switch card to keep it out of harm's way. If your opponent has been saving up Energy Removal cards for this contingency, a Lass would be a good card to throw down right at that moment.
the grass weakness on that gyarados always confuses me.
Didn’t remove energies from Pokémon center
Base set only is cool, but base set plus fossil plus jungle is tge best
Why add 5 energy on garadose when u only need 4
Because if they discard 2 of them with super scoop up, you can do bubblebeam again next turn attaching one energy
@@sempre8135 Super Scoop Up didn't exist at the time. They're playing Base set only which only had Scoop Up. She would have to discard all cards attached to Magikarp to use it.
Natalies Deck is the Pokémon Version of MTG Mono Blue Control
Why can you just move the damage counters around?
Alakazam
When can we get other formats that’s not base. 😘
play the second iteration of Chansey zam next time. Got so much better with 4 mimes.
Scyther made haymaker very strong so most times Gyarados line was cut.
Natalie if she would of made that an all Psychic deck instead n added tentacool alakazam powers could transfer hit point to another card n tentacool power can withdraw back into your hand with the hit points I made this deck in 2000 n was never beaten in the poke league
It's Base Only format and the Tentacool is not printed until Fossil
beautiful... when 50 dmg for 3 energies was considered decent lol
longinus cyclone that was in the BS era. Now it was sucks
yeah ikr
Not a big deal but natalie when she played pokemon center forgot to discard the energy off gyarados but I am sure she forgot
Gen 1 holofoil cards used to put me into a narcotic like daze. Look up pokemon holofoil asmr videos.
Never knew Gyarados Alakazam was a deck. Does this include Fossil and Jungle cards too?
No gust of wind in that Haymaker deck?
But it was hard to watch........ it's kinda slow playing....
I saw a gust of wind, just kill alakazam....
I don’t think you can knock out your own Pokemon with alakazam’s poke power.
Gregory Tschann You are right. You can't.
rigged lol
Ahhh! Okay - good to know
Hey you should build the old school decks and sell them and then you could stream and play the people who bought the decks
You can't knock yourself out with Alakazam
Also, I love these videos, I don't wanna seem nitpicky.
No you are totally right! Hahaha we make mistakes sometimes- good catch. Fortunately I don’t think it changed the outcome of the match
I used to just scoop up Chancey. I was the only guy back then that used plus power as well
Absauger is pronounced (approximately) “up-sow(think cow)-ger.
must kill abra first, use gust of wind, item finder >> gust of wind, if you don't stop alakazam you can't win.
#Mahomies #Shampeeps
39:07 alakazams abillity can't knock out friendly pokemon
Also near the end you were dealing 10 damage with hitmonchan's special punch...but it's a 40 dmg move?
Gyarados has -30 resistance to Fighting type
Correct about Alakazam. However, in the context of this battle, it made no difference.
Natalie needs to pump the energy cards, don't be afraid. Eventually Andrew is all our energy removal. Otherwise, you are still in the problem. You don't have the time to put energy cards on it.....
One energy card on the turn....
For anyone reading who is playing Pokemon TCG without using turn 1 supporters because they say in this video that that'a not allowed, STOP! You CAN play 1 Supporter card ANY turn, including first turn, otherwise Lillie makes no sense!
STOP!
Pretty sure Lillie is referring to the 1st turn of whoever goes 2nd.
Hi
I love the commentary for the most part, just don't like when Andrew plays both sides. Its a little redundant to watch someone duel themselves. Great video either way I'm gonna watch a bunch of these.
I wanna point out how Natalie cheated by knocking out her own Chansey because the Alakazam says you can’t knock out your own Pokémon. Sorry, Andrew technically won because it changed the entire game state…
😳
She folds very hard those very expensives cards, she make me suffer
If they didn’t shuffle for 5 minutes. And if he didn’t talk about absolutely nothing the entire game it would be a great video
Where’s yours?
As someone who was a dumb 5 year old who didn't understand how the TCG worked when this set was current, I appreciate the commentary.
I will also ALWAYS encourage everyone to shuffle their hand around like Brian Kibler whenever possible, so...