LIGURIAN (GENOESE) LANGUAGE, PEOPLE, & CULTURE

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    Ligurian is a Gallo-Italic language spoken primarily in the territories of the former Republic of Genoa, now comprising the area of Liguria in Northern Italy, parts of the Mediterranean coastal zone of France, Monaco (where it is called Monegasque), the village of Bonifacio in Corsica, and in the villages of Carloforte on San Pietro Island and Calasetta on Sant'Antioco Island off the coast of southwestern Sardinia. It is part of the Gallo-Italic and Western Romance dialect continuum.
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Komentáře • 178

  • @claudiodealba2010
    @claudiodealba2010 Před rokem +49

    I am impressed about how the nasal sounds of Ligurian match the Brazilian Portuguese ones! Also, the definite articles "a", "o", are like in Portuguese, and the "o" standing alone or at the end of a word sounds like "oo", just like in Brazilian Portuguese! "O café" sounds just like my language sounds to me. I am Brazilian. This is the first time that I listen to Ligurian, and I was astonished when he said "tùtto bén". The "bén" got me! Had he said "tùddo bén", it would be a "Brazilian Portuguese" statement! This is the first time ever that I hear "bén" being said exactly like my Brazilian "bem". Even the people from Portugal can't say "bem" like we say in Brazil like this Ligurian man said "bén". I didn't know that there was such a language! Lovely!!!

    • @klausniklaus2220
      @klausniklaus2220 Před rokem +3

      Verdade, eu percebi a mesma coisa quanto aos sons nasais, aos artigos e ao som da vogal o no final das palavras! O homem é brasileiro!

    • @claudiodealba2010
      @claudiodealba2010 Před rokem +1

      @@klausniklaus2220 Similar é igual em muitos aspectos!

    • @thealexprime
      @thealexprime Před rokem +2

      Gostei do tudo bem kkkkkk

    • @claudiodealba2010
      @claudiodealba2010 Před rokem +1

      @@thealexprime Bem brasileiro kkk

    • @claudiodealba2010
      @claudiodealba2010 Před rokem

      @@thealexprime Pode me passar seu e-mail?

  • @dalubwikaan161
    @dalubwikaan161 Před rokem +21

    I hope so in the near future, Italy will recognize this language and protect it soon.
    I hope so as well Monaco-people will try to revive Monegasque Lingurian.

    • @dalubwikaan161
      @dalubwikaan161 Před rokem +1

      @BeauRivage
      But no one spoke it recently as a daily basis; it is still considered dead.

  • @sidoso9810
    @sidoso9810 Před 8 měsíci +7

    funny how it's so similar to brazilian portuguese but it's actually the italian language that contributed the most to rioplatense spanish while most italians in brazil were from venezia

  • @lombardmordesian
    @lombardmordesian Před rokem +39

    Salüdi fradej lìgüri da la Lumbardia 👋🏻 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 longa vida a la crùs de Sän Giòrg ✨!

    • @Nissardpertugiu
      @Nissardpertugiu Před 10 měsíci +6

      Ciau autre fraire dòu cuntea de Nissa, dintre üna vieja fòrmula acchì.
      Ahì, la vida lunga per tui !

    • @helloitsme-ns2zt
      @helloitsme-ns2zt Před 5 měsíci

      Cool Anglo-italians (the Lombardy flag is basically identical to the English flag 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿)

    • @stephanobarbosa5805
      @stephanobarbosa5805 Před měsícem

      @@Nissardpertugiu Niça !!

    • @Nissardpertugiu
      @Nissardpertugiu Před měsícem +1

      @@stephanobarbosa5805 la tua maniera mai esistava nel nizzardo vero
      Dal 1075 dei primi testi in nizzardo, Nizza è scritto Nissa.
      Anche il trovatore Raimont Feraut scriveva Nissa : Niza.
      I Grimaldi : Nisza
      E Francesco Pellozzi " Nisa ".
      Ma in maggiore parte era Nissa e lo dicciamo come cosi.
      La tua maniera è arrivata al 1900 quando i felibri, venuti d'oltre varo, per andare nel senso dell'anessione francese, hanno mutilato il linguaggio nizzardo detto rustico.
      È perché personalmente, e con altri compatrioti, che la norma del nizzardo moderno, è della merda con non solamente una mutilazione del vocabolario, ma anche una grafia orribile che non rispetta nessuna tradizione romanza, latina etimologica e nustrale della lingua nostra.

    • @stephanobarbosa5805
      @stephanobarbosa5805 Před měsícem +1

      @@Nissardpertugiu Questo è complicato! La Francia rovina la cultura degli altri! Ma per lei è arrivata la punizione! Il francese è sempre più anglicizzato.
      Molti francesi dipendono dalla lingua di Shakespeare per viaggiare all'estero, compresi i paesi latini.

  • @jessepriest2883
    @jessepriest2883 Před rokem +75

    It sounds like a Portuguese person and a French person had a kid and insisted on raising the kid speaking Italian despite not actually speaking Italian themselves 😂

    • @viictor1309
      @viictor1309 Před rokem +9

      This is extremely accurate, but I would say Brazilian stead of Portuguese

    • @ediwansilva7761
      @ediwansilva7761 Před rokem +2

      perfect definition!!!

    • @jessepriest2883
      @jessepriest2883 Před rokem +3

      @Viictor Yeah I can't argue against that 😂

    • @claudiodealba2010
      @claudiodealba2010 Před rokem +4

      Brazilian Portuguese, actually. The definite articles, lone-standing "o" and final "o", and nasal sounds are Brazilian instead of French, though.

    • @claudiodealba2010
      @claudiodealba2010 Před rokem +3

      @@viictor1309 Yeah man, I agree with you, and I am Brazilian.

  • @phgs_smnt
    @phgs_smnt Před rokem +14

    French + Portuguese = Occitan
    Portuguese + French = Ligurian

    • @Nissardpertugiu
      @Nissardpertugiu Před 10 měsíci

      Asòlutament non perché achestü lengage sun tui mai viei che la lenga fransesa.
      Se li ha dei caua vesini es lu faç d'estre tui gallo roman e finda en lü temp trobador haver inspirat achesti lenga parladi cuma franses e portoghes.
      Accò ven tamben de la relassion dòu puòrt e au travves dòu Catalan.

    • @sidoso9810
      @sidoso9810 Před 8 měsíci

      occitan is like catalan

    • @JonDoeNeace
      @JonDoeNeace Před 3 měsíci

      Not at all.

    • @JonDoeNeace
      @JonDoeNeace Před 3 měsíci +1

      Ligurian is 50% Gallic Celtic & 50% Italic. Italian. Genoese.

    • @vastoaspecto
      @vastoaspecto Před 29 dny

      ​@@JonDoeNeace, portugal had a ancient celtic influnce (celtici and callaeci), but I dont know why this same prossodia of occitan and lingurian was emphasized in Brasil... Maybe because of the Galician influence, but Galicians sounds more like Spanish nowadays, I don't know about the past.

  • @KotrokoranaMavokely
    @KotrokoranaMavokely Před rokem +5

    Andy finish the playlist of italian langs, nice jobs sis, great work🌹💋🥂.
    Ligurian is gallic lang related to arpitan, and occitan, ajjacian,piemontese

  • @joseignaciocastrovonrodrig5613

    'E o re co-e bïre inte moæn oua o coménsa a sbragiâghe, "o rætìn no béive vin!"', dîva mæ nona.
    Ah, Ligurian, what a magnificent and great language! We are to do everything and anything within our power in order to preserve it.

  • @Joshayne
    @Joshayne Před rokem +105

    Italian with Brasilian Portuguese accent

    • @Lorenzo_Donzelli
      @Lorenzo_Donzelli Před rokem +34

      Don't call our language Italian because we take offense

    • @rataum22
      @rataum22 Před rokem +12

      Not at all

    • @RicardoBaptista33
      @RicardoBaptista33 Před rokem +7

      Brasilian Portuguess? Are you sure?

    • @euanstokes2828
      @euanstokes2828 Před rokem +4

      ​@@Lorenzo_Donzelliand an English flag

    • @lombardmordesian
      @lombardmordesian Před rokem +8

      Nope. Italy is an italo-dalmatian language, while Ligurian is a Gallo-italic languages. They aren't even closely related.

  • @m.v.domingo5363
    @m.v.domingo5363 Před rokem +5

    I used Monegasque language for Worldcraft, Two Lights, Equation, and Rescris or Rewritten series for official website and my alternative universe than alternative history.

  • @DrLaurelWeaver
    @DrLaurelWeaver Před rokem +13

    Please do Ciociaria languages in Southern Lazio, its a forgotten and not talked about language. Would be great to see it recognized on here!

  • @joseignaciocastrovonrodrig5613
    @joseignaciocastrovonrodrig5613 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Se te diggo "fanni comme ti veu", no ti devi fâ comme ti veu, ti devi fâ quello ghe gh'ho in mente mi, sensa che te digghe ninte!

  • @claudiodealba2010
    @claudiodealba2010 Před rokem +11

    "The wrist" in Portuguese is written "o pulso".
    "The wrist" in Liguruan is written "o pôso".
    "The wrist" in Brazilian Portuguese and in Ligurian sounds like "oo POO-soo".
    Funny! 😂 Lovely! ❤️

    • @klausniklaus2220
      @klausniklaus2220 Před rokem +5

      Sim! É impressionante, o som é igual nas duas línguas, parece que ele está falando brasileiro! 😂

    • @claudiodealba2010
      @claudiodealba2010 Před rokem +5

      @@klausniklaus2220 Diga aí! Eu não sabia que havia outro povo falando fanho como nós! Mas os ligurianos fazem isso! 😂

  • @joshendogaming4909
    @joshendogaming4909 Před rokem +5

    Man, I saw a bunch of comparations with Brazilian portuguese, at first, as a Brazilian I wondered, but now I know for sure and now I'm honestly scared

  • @ronaldorocha69
    @ronaldorocha69 Před rokem +6

    Estava esperando o “Meu reeeiii” baiano. 😂

  • @parchalama
    @parchalama Před rokem +9

    This sounds like a mix of Portuguese and Italian with some French.

    • @claudiodealba2010
      @claudiodealba2010 Před rokem +7

      Phonetically speaking, Ligurian and Brazilian Portuguese have the same nasal sounds! I don't know if this is the only match in this aspect. As a Brazilian Portuguese, this is the first time that I listen to this match! I didn't even know that there was another Romance language with the nasal sounds like mine! Ligurian is even closer than Portuguese from Portugal in this aspect! While Portuguese people say "bem" (well) as "baim", Ligurian people say "bén" like Brazilian "bem". I'm in love with it! Now I know we Brazilian are not alone with our nasality! ❤️

    • @klausniklaus2220
      @klausniklaus2220 Před rokem +1

      Brazilian Portuguese.

    • @klausniklaus2220
      @klausniklaus2220 Před rokem +1

      @@claudiodealba2010 Sim, estou simplesmente impressionado com a similitude!

    • @Nissardpertugiu
      @Nissardpertugiu Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@klausniklaus2220 Toplen de lengage süs achesta còsta sun cum'accò, nautre tamben.
      Achest continuum tra la Catalogna e l'Italia, ambe lu Catalan finda sun vesin , particulament süs lü ditonc e nasau .

  • @gabrielmonteiro8884
    @gabrielmonteiro8884 Před rokem +10

    It reminds Rei do Kuduairo speaking 😂

  • @willwender7323
    @willwender7323 Před 9 měsíci +5

    As a native of American Portuguese, I identify this accent similar to that of Brazilian. sounds very similar to Brazilian Portuguese

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi Před rokem +3

    Another nice.

  • @galgar5660
    @galgar5660 Před rokem +10

    I was so happy I screamed belin

  • @tece-me
    @tece-me Před 11 měsíci +2

    Reminds me Hunsrik and Talian from Brazil, and it do sounds like a brazillian talking too. Anyway, I can understand it pretty well!

  • @matheuszord
    @matheuszord Před rokem +8

    Parece um nordestino falando

  • @_juan.joao_
    @_juan.joao_ Před rokem +7

    Christopher Colombus maternal dialect :)

  • @heh9392
    @heh9392 Před rokem +8

    Molto Bella Lingua

  • @officialitsaey-p
    @officialitsaey-p Před rokem +1

    Can you do about language, culture and people Chavacano please. both Zamboangueño and Caviteño.

  • @mrh1096
    @mrh1096 Před rokem +1

    Andy, can you do a video exclusively about the french language?

    • @Superibis.
      @Superibis. Před 10 měsíci

      Hasn't it been done years ago?

  • @joshuabradshaw9120
    @joshuabradshaw9120 Před rokem +3

    Why does the Ligurian flag look similar to that of England?

    • @GiovanniDiassise
      @GiovanniDiassise Před rokem +8

      The St. George's flag, a red cross on a white field, was adopted by England and the City of London in 1190 for their ships entering the Mediterranean to benefit from the protection of the Genoese fleet. The English Monarch paid an annual tribute to the Doge of Genoa for this privilege.

    • @GiovanniDiassise
      @GiovanniDiassise Před rokem +8

      So the question has to be: why England has the same flag of Genoa😂

  • @qazh5515
    @qazh5515 Před rokem +4

    can you do a video on Palawa Kani

  • @ismaelisla2255
    @ismaelisla2255 Před 8 měsíci +2

    scabio caught me as an argentinian. here we call escabio wine or other alcoholic drinks. we have the verb escabiarse which means to get drunk. this is not spanish obviously it is Lunfardo.

    • @Nissardpertugiu
      @Nissardpertugiu Před měsícem

      @@ismaelisla2255 most of you are ligurian descents ..

    • @ismaelisla2255
      @ismaelisla2255 Před měsícem +1

      @@Nissardpertugiu I am partially Genovese yes.

  • @RoyallibcomUZBEK
    @RoyallibcomUZBEK Před rokem

    Dmitriy! I want these female and male voice languages to be added Ligurian voice. Approximately RHVoice-voice-Ligurian, Microsoft Azure and CereProc TTS in the future

  • @gandolfthorstefn1780
    @gandolfthorstefn1780 Před rokem +4

    Sounds half Italian,half Breton.👍 Beautiful language.

  • @Ajclz
    @Ajclz Před rokem

    When he said "cúrva" he sounded totally slavic

  • @Lorenzo_Donzelli
    @Lorenzo_Donzelli Před rokem +25

    Fëo de ëse zenéize 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (Proud to be Genoese)

    • @lombardmordesian
      @lombardmordesian Před rokem +6

      🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 bràu bagaj! Mì sont lumbard, parò te diset ca a mì me piasen propi tücc i pòpol de discendènsa gallego-cisalpina ✌🏻✨. Longa vida a la Ligüria 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, fradèl (anca de bandéra ahah)!

    • @Lorenzo_Donzelli
      @Lorenzo_Donzelli Před rokem +6

      @@lombardmordesian graçie mìlle fræ. A léngoa Lonbàrda me piaxe tànto. Mi voéi savéi léngoa Lonbàrda oltre a o zenéize (purtroppo non parlo bén o zenéize, no a pârlo bén, e ûzo o diçionâio zenéize)

    • @GiovanniDiassise
      @GiovanniDiassise Před rokem +5

      Brâvo! L'é ben ben inportante de sentîse zeneixi e no te preocupâ se no ti parli ben o zeneize, a cösa a ciù inportante a l'é quella de parlâlo, sôlo coscì se sarva a nòstra léngoa. E te conseggio anche de lêze a nòstra Wikipedia pe profondî o léscico e-e construçioìn. Alêgri!

    • @nyko921
      @nyko921 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Longhe vite a tutte li lingue d'Italie. Salute dallu Gargane

    • @sidoso9810
      @sidoso9810 Před 8 měsíci

      xeneize?

  • @RoyallibcomUZBEK
    @RoyallibcomUZBEK Před rokem

    Дмитрий! Я хочу, чтобы эти языки голоса женские и мужские были добавлены лигурский голос. Примерно RHVoice-voice-Ligurian, Microsoft Azure и CereProc TTS в будущем

    • @ste128
      @ste128 Před rokem

      Wow, you made any progress man?

  • @properglitch6556
    @properglitch6556 Před 7 měsíci

    I’m learning Italian and I can understand it a little bit, but it is very different I would say it’s more different than the Sicilian version And Sardinian of Latin or Italian

    • @JonDoeNeace
      @JonDoeNeace Před 3 měsíci

      Italian is several different Italic regional tongues.

  • @SiirLouis
    @SiirLouis Před 9 měsíci +2

    Isso ai é um portugues falado por italiano 😂😂

  • @robjackson5245
    @robjackson5245 Před měsícem

    This sounds Italian only with some French-prenunciation. I dont see a difference. Only Emilian sounds French. Piedmontese ironically sounds more German than French. At best it may sound like Alsacian German.

    • @Nissardpertugiu
      @Nissardpertugiu Před měsícem +1

      @@robjackson5245 except the eu sound its not common to french at all

    • @robjackson5245
      @robjackson5245 Před měsícem

      @@Nissardpertugiu I know Ligurian is just pure Italian with a French-like pronunciation at most.

    • @robjackson5245
      @robjackson5245 Před měsícem

      @@Nissardpertugiu I don't know if it was necessarily -eu it just sounded a little bit. I think the French only influenced the dialect in Liguria. Not the language. I take back what i said - I now think Piedmontese and Lombardy are more French-influenced. Emilian sounds more like Alsatian German than French. Venetian sounds like German, Romansch, Serbian and Croatian mixed together.

    • @robjackson5245
      @robjackson5245 Před měsícem

      @Nissardpertugiu Lombardy can be French-influenced in some German-influenced in others. Lombardy was more the center of Holy Roman lands while Piedmont has more history with France than the Holy Roman lands.

    • @Nissardpertugiu
      @Nissardpertugiu Před měsícem +1

      @@robjackson5245 even on the prononciation except few words

  • @diabl2master
    @diabl2master Před 8 měsíci

    Columbus was not born in Genoa, Italy. Italy didn't exist.

    • @Nissardpertugiu
      @Nissardpertugiu Před 4 měsíci +1

      Italy as geographic entity and cultural exist since the antiquity.
      If not why before 1860 you have tons of maps and writings from different regions where they identify as part of italia as people.
      Do you think a politic unification invent suddenly a whole ensemble of cultures and stuff?

    • @JonDoeNeace
      @JonDoeNeace Před 3 měsíci

      Exactly. Italy didn't exist.

    • @JonDoeNeace
      @JonDoeNeace Před 3 měsíci

      Republic of Genoa was a country.

    • @Nissardpertugiu
      @Nissardpertugiu Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@JonDoeNeace It was a state.
      Part of peninsula Italiana

    • @JonDoeNeace
      @JonDoeNeace Před 3 měsíci

      @@Nissardpertugiu I understand what you mean that national identity was forming in Italy before political unity, as is the case in most situations.