2021 300 XCW - Bought new 6 weeks ago. Had issues from day one. A bad oil leak that was fixed under warranty and a hesitation in the powerband the dealer couldnt fix. Came back from the dealer with a low idle. I have had it on the trails once since then and it was amazing. So nimble and light but plenty of torque. Excellent for the tight stuff I ride. I am waiting for a TSP medium comp head and my refreshed ECU. That should fix the idle and hesitation. Cant wait to put lots of hours on it.
@@ShiftGearsMoto they did adjust the power valve. And the power comes on sooner but still with the hesitation. I will do the idle screw mod with the TSP kit. Should be dialed after that.
@@SkinnySkinch Yes, the TSP reflashed ECU and Medium compression head completely cured the hesitation issue and the pipe bang. The bike runs extremely smooth now with lots of torque and pulls like a tractor.
Great bike. I haven't had any of the 5 issues but think my sensor may be acting up. I will swap the spark plug before making my conclusion. I was really miffed I didn't get a kick start but now I am just going to invest in a jump start battery since all my bike no longer have the kick start. Nice video.
Thanks for the comment and I'm glad you enjoyed it. A new spark plug is a great place to start and then move to the sensor. There are simple ways to bump start the bike if you need. A battery jumper would be a lot to carry in your pack IMO.
I have a 2020 250XC that has 13 hours on it and has fouled roughly 20 plugs in those 13 hours. They ALL foul on startup. Typically I will do a cold start with the "choke" out and sometimes the bike starts and sometimes the bike fails to start and after 2 or 3 attempts to start the plug is just completely black covered in oil and fouled. The bike also ran like absolute dog shit straight from factory and after a while I saw online how many people were suggesting the CCPS sensor replacement. I did that and the bike seems to be running quite a bit better but it still fouls plugs like it is it's job. I had a 2019 300XCW TPI that I put over 100 hours on the stock OEM plug best motor ive ever ridden.
I have a 2020 300 TPI and I have less than 6hrs and I've just fouled an iridium plug (only has 6hrs due to an unrelated back injury just after buying the bike). I get the feeling this is what I'm going to be dealing with
I just bought a 2021 and immediately realized after getting it home that I cant keep it running while idling because the idle is too low. First thing I bought was the idle screw mod. Hopefully that will take care of everything.
Idle is subjective to where you live, and seals go out. You should expect them to eventually leak. They’re covering, hot moving objects. They get worn, and will leak. Electronics go out, and I really don’t know why you’d need a spark arrester on the stock pipe, those bikes a SILENT😂 mine still is even with aftermarket pipe. Anyways. Do preventative maintenance. It’s just part of a new bike. KTM’s are SOLID bikes. Made with some of the best products available.
Exactly, which is why not having the ability to adjust the idle out of the box is crazy. The idle adjustment screw mod is a must. A spark arrestor has nothing to do with sound. It's required in some areas, specifically state parks for safety. This is an off-road bike and you might expect it to come with one. No issue for me, but I know a lot of people in the PNW mention this. KTMs are by far my favorite bikes. I just picked up a new one a few weeks ago. No bike is perfect.
Can someone please tell me how to correctly start and warm up these 2T TPI’s!!?? I’m getting mixed advice from everyone that I am confused who to listen to 😳
Since TPI's are oil injected, the amount of oil is constantly changing, unlike a carb 2 stroke where whatever ratio you mix at, you will get at all RPMs. With TPI's it's calculated based on several metrics, including RPMs. Warm up should be treated like a 4 stroke. Let it idle until it nears operating temp without blipping throttle and use the cold start when necessary.
@@ShiftGearsMoto Thanks. I’m having similar problems to what a faulty CCPS would cause and now my spark plugs are fouling. Pretty much everyone around me keep telling me DONT let it idle, keep blipping the throttle because it’s a 2 Stroke!! I’m getting the CCPS looked at this week
@@ShiftGearsMoto just use/suggest an old school end cap cobra style like it's 1999 think kx 100 bw dayz!! 👌 gets the job done and a dab of silicone helps keep em put
Great video, keep up the good work. I will say that your issue with foiling plugs might have something to do with how you warm up the bike. Unlike a 4 stroke, you can't leave these tpi 2 strokes to warm up on idle as there will be unburnt oil of fuel still in the engine. Just keeping the revs above idle when warming up the bike will help out Alot. Hope this helps. Keep up the great vids.
@@ShiftGearsMoto So this is true, But never start the bike and just start riding it. With the TPIs you want to let them sit there and idle until they get the Rads hot to touch. The computer adjusts everything not like the old carb bikes where you had to blip the throttle.
Funny you say that. I just installed one this weekend. Was talking with my riding group about it since no else runs one. I think they're only necessary if you ride in really rocky terrain.
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2021 300 XCW - Bought new 6 weeks ago. Had issues from day one. A bad oil leak that was fixed under warranty and a hesitation in the powerband the dealer couldnt fix. Came back from the dealer with a low idle. I have had it on the trails once since then and it was amazing. So nimble and light but plenty of torque. Excellent for the tight stuff I ride. I am waiting for a TSP medium comp head and my refreshed ECU. That should fix the idle and hesitation. Cant wait to put lots of hours on it.
Wow, that's really unfortunate. Put in the idle screw for an easy fix there. Did they adjust your power valve?
@@ShiftGearsMoto they did adjust the power valve. And the power comes on sooner but still with the hesitation. I will do the idle screw mod with the TSP kit. Should be dialed after that.
@@TheTedbull Did it fix it?
@@SkinnySkinch Yes, the TSP reflashed ECU and Medium compression head completely cured the hesitation issue and the pipe bang. The bike runs extremely smooth now with lots of torque and pulls like a tractor.
Great bike. I haven't had any of the 5 issues but think my sensor may be acting up. I will swap the spark plug before making my conclusion. I was really miffed I didn't get a kick start but now I am just going to invest in a jump start battery since all my bike no longer have the kick start. Nice video.
Thanks for the comment and I'm glad you enjoyed it. A new spark plug is a great place to start and then move to the sensor. There are simple ways to bump start the bike if you need. A battery jumper would be a lot to carry in your pack IMO.
I Enjoyed this, cheers for the insight into my dream machine ✌🏻
Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers
@@foxtristan3925 nope
Dope bike, was actually just looking at some at a dealership the other day they had on display. This build makes me kinda wanna really get one now😎
I love it. Small issues, but every bike has them. Definitely get one!
I have a 2020 250XC that has 13 hours on it and has fouled roughly 20 plugs in those 13 hours. They ALL foul on startup. Typically I will do a cold start with the "choke" out and sometimes the bike starts and sometimes the bike fails to start and after 2 or 3 attempts to start the plug is just completely black covered in oil and fouled. The bike also ran like absolute dog shit straight from factory and after a while I saw online how many people were suggesting the CCPS sensor replacement. I did that and the bike seems to be running quite a bit better but it still fouls plugs like it is it's job. I had a 2019 300XCW TPI that I put over 100 hours on the stock OEM plug best motor ive ever ridden.
Have you done the idle adjustment screw? I haven't fouled a single plug since I did that.
I have a 2020 300 TPI and I have less than 6hrs and I've just fouled an iridium plug (only has 6hrs due to an unrelated back injury just after buying the bike). I get the feeling this is what I'm going to be dealing with
I like the hit of the power band on my 2012 ktm 250xc Carburetted bike
Carbs bikes are definitely less linear. The older ones even more. Really fun to ride, but that massive blip isn't great for traction.
@@ShiftGearsMoto ya u jus gotta be easy on the gas and use the cluch more
@@ShiftGearsMoto I like mine bc it has the grunt of a trail bike with the top end of a race bike best of both worlds
@@bryden_smith you can always tune the power band to get that!
Carbed 2 strokes are better IMO.
For 2022 model year you can buy either a carbed or a TPI 2 stroke for the TM brand. That's what KTM should do.
No issues with my 2020 300 TPI yet, no idle problems, power valve leak or faulty ccp sensor.
That's awesome! How many hours do you have on the bike?
Like the video man! Keep it up!
Thanks - more on the way for sure!
great review
Thank you!
I got a fun little story about why handguards are so important.
Some lessons are learned the hard way :)
@@ShiftGearsMoto Yes, like the loss of 1/2” off the end of my left ring finger. REAL hard lesson...
Damn!
I just bought a 2021 and immediately realized after getting it home that I cant keep it running while idling because the idle is too low. First thing I bought was the idle screw mod. Hopefully that will take care of everything.
It's the best mod you can do. No reason not to install and make your bike run better.
I have the same exact bike and my power value cover is leaking too and I don’t know how to exactly fix it😭
2020? How bad is your leak?
@@ShiftGearsMoto it’s real bad it leaks every single ride to the point that I have to clean out my skid plate every ride Bc it’s full of dirt and oil
Ktm repaired mine under warranty
The 2019 power valve seal is the fix for the bad 2020 one. You can't even get a 2020 replacement one on RMATV they take you right to the 2019 part #
Yup. They went back to the 2019 design for the 2021s.
KTM should offer the customer a choice between a terrible TPI bike or a carbed bike. TM does.
They did in 2018 for one year in the US when they were introduced. I would definitely still choose TPI. Check out Beta or Sherco if you want a carb.
@@ShiftGearsMoto I have a new Beta 300 race edition coming soon.
@@carlatamanczyk3891 the 2022s look sick
great stuff
Thanks bud!
Another common issue for these ktms and husqys is the electric start problems all will come with this issues after around 50 hours
What start issues?
Idle is subjective to where you live, and seals go out. You should expect them to eventually leak. They’re covering, hot moving objects. They get worn, and will leak. Electronics go out, and I really don’t know why you’d need a spark arrester on the stock pipe, those bikes a SILENT😂 mine still is even with aftermarket pipe. Anyways. Do preventative maintenance. It’s just part of a new bike. KTM’s are SOLID bikes. Made with some of the best products available.
Exactly, which is why not having the ability to adjust the idle out of the box is crazy. The idle adjustment screw mod is a must.
A spark arrestor has nothing to do with sound. It's required in some areas, specifically state parks for safety. This is an off-road bike and you might expect it to come with one. No issue for me, but I know a lot of people in the PNW mention this.
KTMs are by far my favorite bikes. I just picked up a new one a few weeks ago. No bike is perfect.
@@ShiftGearsMoto True, dang I didn’t know that, and also true, no bike is
Can someone please tell me how to correctly start and warm up these 2T TPI’s!!?? I’m getting mixed advice from everyone that I am confused who to listen to 😳
Since TPI's are oil injected, the amount of oil is constantly changing, unlike a carb 2 stroke where whatever ratio you mix at, you will get at all RPMs. With TPI's it's calculated based on several metrics, including RPMs. Warm up should be treated like a 4 stroke. Let it idle until it nears operating temp without blipping throttle and use the cold start when necessary.
@@ShiftGearsMoto Thanks. I’m having similar problems to what a faulty CCPS would cause and now my spark plugs are fouling. Pretty much everyone around me keep telling me DONT let it idle, keep blipping the throttle because it’s a 2 Stroke!! I’m getting the CCPS looked at this week
@@kirstyanderson4570 I would suggest the following (sadly I've had these issues too): idle adjustment screw mod, update ECU, check for a strong spark.
How do u finde the turning ability on the tpi
Not sure what you mean by "turning". Do you mean tuning?
@@ShiftGearsMoto ya lol auto correct
All you have to do is add the idle adjustment screw and you're golden.
Bike really can't backfire while running such a clean fuel map /ignition cycle , why would u need a spark arrestor if it doesn't backfire???
It's required by law for some riding areas.
@@ShiftGearsMoto just use/suggest an old school end cap cobra style like it's 1999 think kx 100 bw dayz!! 👌 gets the job done and a dab of silicone helps keep em put
Nice video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video, keep up the good work. I will say that your issue with foiling plugs might have something to do with how you warm up the bike. Unlike a 4 stroke, you can't leave these tpi 2 strokes to warm up on idle as there will be unburnt oil of fuel still in the engine. Just keeping the revs above idle when warming up the bike will help out Alot. Hope this helps. Keep up the great vids.
Thanks for the comment and glad you like the video.
do no listen to this.... completely wrong information
Yup, indeed it. TPIs take a really long time to warm up.
@@ShiftGearsMoto So this is true, But never start the bike and just start riding it. With the TPIs you want to let them sit there and idle until they get the Rads hot to touch. The computer adjusts everything not like the old carb bikes where you had to blip the throttle.
@@TheHuckHD I have a temp gauge on my fan that I use to see when it's at operating temp.
Near the end you kept saying spark plugs but I think you meant Spark Arrestor. LOL
Gas tank fitting & filter, see ktmtalk.com/showthread.php?558957-Improved-Fuel-Tank-Connection-amp-Filter-Kit
Are you from ohio? I bought my ktm from point view too!
Yup! Got mine there last June 👍
@@ShiftGearsMoto I just bought this bike from them.. what are the odds of me watching this video and seeing that decal. I live in canal fulton
CZcams knows... Haha! It's a great bike - enjoy it and thanks for checking out my channel.
yo man get a lavalier mic or something, the vidoe is nice but the sound is not so great tbh
I'll look into getting one. Thanks for the feedback.
Great video, subbed you back!
Thanks!
Rotor guards bro
Funny you say that. I just installed one this weekend. Was talking with my riding group about it since no else runs one. I think they're only necessary if you ride in really rocky terrain.
@@ShiftGearsMoto In creek beds, they are a must. 7602 racing makes some minimal ones, they are awesome👌
Just checked those out. Definitely nice, but quite expensive. I just put the acerbis one on.