GAMO REPLAY 10X Magnum IGT Gen 2 - Finding the Best Ammunition
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- čas přidán 27. 11. 2021
- Here is a test of different pellets and slugs for the Gamo Replay 10X Magnum IGT Gen 2.
Im shooting at a distance of 23 m with:
JSB Exact 8,44 gr
JSB Heavy 10,34 gr
JSB Monster Redesigned 13,43 gr
JSB Beast 16,2 gr
NSA 12,5 gr
JSB KnockOut 13,43 gr
NSA 15 gr
I hope that you will find the test helpfull.
Best regards
Peter P/Viking Airgunner
I bought gamo swarm magnum 10x gen3i 177. And I am very impressed and it's a beautiful design 🤜🤛 thanks for the video 💪😎✌
Thank you for the test results and your advice on the ammo 👍
Thank you for the great video, very helpful... keep it up with more Gamo or other breakberrel rifles and ammo test
Greetings from Buenos Aires - Argentina. Quite a complete test; which (again) prubes that, when shooting Magnum air rifles, the heavier the pellet, the better the accuracy as you get farther the transonic zone. By the way, I have the GAMO Roadster 10x Gen 2 (same rotary magazine as yours). Excellent gun. Happy New Year ...!
Hi Daniel
Thanks for your comment 🤗
Can I ask you, if you are experiencing any issues with the magazine? Is there a trick on how to handle it?
Best regards and a Happy New Year to you 🙂
Good video, sir! I quite enjoy my Gamo guns; I’ve had a boatload of fun with them.
Thanks buddy 🙂
Airgunning is all about having fun 🙂
Best regards
Peter P
hello, you don't know if the replay is the same as the swarm?
@@DarkF516 it is indeed!
@@DarkF516 saw Q10
Greetings from Greece you got a new sub man awesome video I have ordered the gun and I can't wait to get it
Welcome aboard mate 🙂
I hope that you will have great fun with the gun 🤗
Best regards
Peter P
MAN, great video! Thanks for doing the homework for us my Nordic friend!
You are welcome my friend 🤗
Always good to spread the airgun virus! Lol. I'm currently awaiting parts to arrive for my Gamo Socom Tactical. It's an older one. They quit making the Socom series around 2008 I believe. I was given the gun second hand and I've put about 12,000 shots through it myself. It was well used when I got it as well. The coil spring broke and the piston seal had seen better days. It always worked just at lower velocities there towards the end before I tore it down. I look forward to putting thousands more shots through it when my parts arrive. I have PCP and others too keep me plenty busy in the mean time. Lol. I enjoyed seeing your crony results and groups for the Gamo. Nothing refutes good science! Take care...
PS: I'm not a fan of the 10x system. I don't mind single loading them as that's how I've always done it.
Thanks for sharing your story Joshua 🙂
I just love that you can be into both old springers and modern PCP 😃
I had a Diana 48 when I was a kid but I would really like to get one again. Felt like I could hit anything with it, so it would be quite something to test it today 😃
@@VikingAirgunner life is short my friend! Go on and get you one!
@@joshuagibson2520 I just might 😃
Hello VA. First, I have noticed that many of your nation speak better American than many Americans. Secondly, you are a horse! I get pretty sloppy after a few shots but you stayed at it all day. I'd have to take a nap. So bravo! A very good and needful video, as others comment! Thank you!
Thank you so much 🤗
I really enjoy going into details and sometimes it actually feel difficult to stop 😃
Im really happy that you found my work useful.
Best regards
Peter 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner Peter, you are a man to ride the river with!
Your bestest fan from Alabam,
Norm
My gun relay gamo Magnum not set for telescope and very recall but not tight to telescope plz any suggestions plz
My wildcat loves rws dome pellets! those Bad boys tear through 1/2 plywood like Butter At a 100 ft. My gamo was inacurate At first came with a bunch of loose screws and the scope it came with was damage and didnt adjust At all. After some work the rifle now shoots straight.
Uhh the gun should arrive in perfekt condition - but good you could fix it 😃
The Wildcat is a cool gun. Im falling more and more in love with mine 🤗
You should consider griffin slugs and fx slugs... also h & n makes some awesome rounds. Those NSA rounds didnt work really well in my gamo magnum either. But keep up the good work and keep trying. I have a magnum like that and it's not fussy at all.
Thats great info!
Thanks for sharing 🙂
My experience with powerful gas piston Gamos includes 3 brutaly "eaten" scopes. But to be honest, my Gamo black fusion mach 1 (4.5mm) is accurate using the right pellet (baraccuda in my case), but i am limited to iron sights with it.
So what scope did you install in this test? I hope it did not get damaged
Its nice to hear what people use so thanks for sharing your experience 🙂
The scope was a Gamo. I wanted to match the gun and scope so that it would resemble the setup that many would ise.
But with the recoil I can easily imagine scope being damaged 😃
@@VikingAirgunner does this scope was in package with rifle or you buy additionally?
@@domitor1elementorum I would imagine that the scope was part of a package. When I bought my first Gamo I seem to remember that it was like that aswell.
Those NSA are for greater distances, beyond 75 meters. Shot them at that distance, and you'll get awesome groups. I had with my .22 Gen 2 10x Magnum 6cm groups at 90 meters.
I would suggest you to take a close look at my other videos. Here you will find groups that proves that slugs can indeed be shot at the shorter distances.
'Those NSA are for greater distances, beyond 75 meters.'
Psssst. I have found out that if you can get great groups to 80 yards,---you are getting great groups at anything less too. :)
Hello
Greetings from El Salvador, Central America and Happy New Year.
Very nice video.
Your testing makes me more confident regarding this rifle, because it looks not so much hold sensitive (you are shooting it resting over a semi hard surface and with your supporting hand in different positions. I mean you are not using the artillery hold technique) You are getting some pretty decent groups at 23 meter, for a magnum nitro piston break barrel.
Is the auto indexing mechanism reliable?
Do you think that the accuracy is affected by the pellet feeding from this magazine?
What is your experience with this rifle?
Do you recommend it for someone looking for a multipurpose rifle? (I would like to purchase one of these rifles)
I will appreciate your comments.
Kind regards.
Hi Ricardo
Thanks for your comment 🙂
If I was in the situation where I was to buy a gun, I would avoid a model with this type of magazine. Other might get it to work but I think that it was a problem and not helpfull.
If you are looking specificly for a Gamo I would go for another model.
And if you are open for another brand of gun that might be a better idea.
Best regards
Peter P
@@VikingAirgunner ok. Understood. Thank you for your quick and kind answer.
I don't know too much about air guns but I've the .22 version of this gun and it says its shoots at around 220ms a second, 290m with a pba pellet. Is there a way to find out roughly how many joules of power it has?
Hey man 🙂
Sure and it is quite easy.
You can use an app called Bullet Energy Calculator. Enter the weight of the pellet and the speed that you measure. Not just the velocity that the manufacturer claims since you will have very different velocities using different pellets - as you can see in the test 🙂
Regarding joules what is the limit in your country?
I purchased the same rifle in Holland 2 weeks ago, once delivered, the same hour I sent it back to avoid big troubles here in Hungary.
Here we are only limited by caliber.
@@VikingAirgunner Hungary 7,5 joules.
I have 2 Weihrauch rifles, paid the full price for them, but 3 times less power. But at least they come with a Weihrauch factory spring limited at 7,5.
My friend bought an Artemis with gas piston but the authorities replaced it with a cheap spring.
in case you can tell me if gamo 19magnium 2 is modifiable from 25 to 45, if yes where can I buy the modification? not the teovo anywhere, I have regular port give me .thank you
I cant imagine, but I would suggest that you contact your local Gamo dealer for the exact anwer.
Best regards
Bro can u tell me wich is more accurate spring airgun or pcp if i will take both guns in the same price wich one will be more accurate? Pcp or spring airgun?
And van u advice me if it is possible to by pcp gun under $300 that will be able to hit 5cmX5cm target at 100 yards? Wich budget gun is capable of shooting accurate for pigeons in 100 yards ?
Hi Giorgi
I wish that I could give you an answer based on my own experience, but I simply dont have experience in those areas.
The only gun that comes to my mind is the Venturi Avenger wich you can find for just around 300 usd.
So my advise is to check it out here on CZcams - there are lots of videos about it 🙂
I hope that you will have succes in your search
Best regards
Peter P
Super rew. A PCP does not drop in Joule when weights go up. But this break barrel does.
8,44/1090 = 30,2 J
10,34/988 = 30,4 J
13,43/742 = 22,3 J
16,20/670 = 21,9 J
slugs.
13,43/798 = 23,1 J
15,00/673 = 20,1 J
So 10 grains +/- seems to be "the magic number" ..
Arent u supposed to do the artillery hold on break barrels for better accuracy?
I seriously doubt that it would improve accuracy.....
@@VikingAirgunner Actually, the less you touch a springer, the better. Any force you put into the stock is OK, but you have to repeat the force or the "vibration dynamics" are different. The gun is moving before the pellet leaves the barrel, so if it shakes the same, the muzzle will be in the same spot when the pellet leaves it. It is just easier to repeat "zero force" (or as close as you can get to it), than it is to repeat any force from your hands, cheek, shoulder. I got a bit longer trigger screw for my Gamo Mag 22 Gen2, and it is needed, because basically, when you are not touching the gun, it moves easily by just pulling the trigger. Your 20 yard groups will become 60 yard groups, if you let it shake its groove thing. So I just have the gun fore stock resting on my hand/forearm, my middle finger in the trigger, with my index finger along side the stock for a bit of stability, and my trigger hand grip the only force into the stock, and as little as possible. I like to feel the weight of the gun at the crotch of my thumb and fore finger, and I pull my elbow to my ribs, (to let the gun just sit a bit better). Before I pull the trigger, I push the butt stock away from my face and my shoulder. Now if you can pull the trigger with out moving the gun, you will amaze yourself with good pellets, good scope, to 80 yard 2" groups.
It is not hard in the field either. Grab a branch, (or anything), and rest the fore stock on your fore arm. Every time you miss, you will remember you grabbed the gun too tight. Come on man. 20 yard tests are for sling shots. :)
If you don't touch it, even the least expensive break barrel guns will amaze you to 80 yards, (assuming good pellets and everything operates as it should.).
I have been breaking barrels for quite some years now with the .22 Gamo magnum. It’ll sure wear you out but wicked good accuracy using iron sights. Had the scope saver on mine but after shooting out three scopes reticles I decided not to invest in another especially after the Gamo dedicated scope to the air gun failed as well. Great air gun manufacturer but Gamo is very temperamental with different pellet makers. We’re you given permission to re-zero the scope to your desire? BTW Peter, I have information about the Fx Wildcat Mk3 amp regulator adjustment location. Fx has taken the rear tube design from the impact, crown, dreamline, and Maverick and carried the new design over to the latest released wildcat mk3. Makes regulator tuning adjustments so much easier! 🍻
Hey man thats great news on the reg 😎
I could adjust the Gamo in any way I nedded to, but since it was more about group size than hitting bullseye I didnt bother. And since my spaghetti arms were challenged anyway I was fine by reducing the number of shots for one day 😃
@@VikingAirgunner Yes Sir and once you get passed cocking that Gamo beast for a couple years there’s no need for a gym membership and your life expectancy goes up 15 years!😂👍🏼go Gamo!
@@Airgunner-uu1pz 😂😂😂 Thats some heavy arguments 😂😂
Have you tried dampa mount?
Use rifle scope for shock absorber
Thanks for the great entertainment.
I know that mentioned GAMO air rifle, from a son-in-law who was so unlucky and buy it in delusion. It will never shoot better than a cheap Chinese broken spring, no matter what ammo you fill in it.
Both me and my wife can shoot 10 pellets groups of less than 9 mm at 25 meters with FX diabolo/JSB exact diabolo of 8.44 grain with an incredible speed of 322 m/s (1056 fps) in our new Air Venturi Avenger cal .177. The speed at which it takes place is absolutely insane. Tonight I will try if it is possible and imitate the art with our FX Impact M3.
Good luck at 50 meters with the GAMO. Do not forget to be very very far away from everything. 😉
Well you get what you pay for 🙂
The Gamo is a good way to find out if you want to stick to airgunning, so in my mind a gun that is fun to shoot, but never will be nor an Avenger or an M3 (got mine two says ago 😃)
@@VikingAirgunner And unfortunately, losing the urge to shoot with an air rifle right away due to the poor accuracy they get for their hard-earned money. 😢
@@TheLandbo I saw it as a good reason to upgrade 😃
@@VikingAirgunner Yes ok.
If your in 2 degrees Celsius the speed of sound is 1090 fps.. 😎
And there definitely a sonic boom for the light pellet. 🤓
Thats good info - so I was not Completely wrong 🙂
Thanks for sharing 🤗
Skide fed video! Tak for den! Og jeg elsker den danske accent 😎💪🏼😂
Tak for det 🙂
Ja jeg giver den lidt Randers sound 😀
@@VikingAirgunner selv tak! 😁
fuck da det. det du gør det sku meget godt af at det hele er på engelsk. Så er du heller ikke så begrænset til os små danskere ☺️
@@K1NGGAMING226 Ja det rammer lidt mere bredt på engelsk 😀
@@VikingAirgunner det må man sige, jeg følger ihverfald også lige med fra side linjen! Står og overvejer mit første gevær. Meeeen, jeg er usikker på hvilken en det lige skal være 😁
@@K1NGGAMING226 Det er virkelig mange muligheder. Det er en god idé at klarlægge, hvad det skal bruges til. Dåser i baghaven eller et, der skal kunne skyde hul i hul på 100 m 🙂
Jo mere man forventer af det, des dyrere bliver det 🤓
What optic do you use. I have the same gun and it destroys all my optics.
It is not my own gun and I dont remember wich brand of scope. But saddly if you want a scope that can handle the impact of the guns recoil you might have to invest in a more expensive scope. Maybe even same price as the gun itself 🙄
One that I will highly recommend is the Element Helix that has been tested up to 50 bmg. And of cause some good scope mounts aswell.
Good nice
Good nice
Which mike your using brother? And camera
Gopro hero 10 and a Röde mic 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner thanx
Do you recommend this air gun for a casual user?
If there is a trick to make the magazine function properly it would be a fine gun, but without having that much knowledge to guns in that price range I will suggest to look at other alternatives aswell 🙂
I see that is the. 177 if you can get the 22 gen 2 and use the h & n hornets
Thats good info 🙂
Thanks for sharing 🙂
Set the telecope firth
hi congratulations nice video, how many j. it's the shotgun, I'm going to buy it 25 j. x 5.5 in your opinion for this power is a 4.5 or a 5.5 better? thank you and merry christmas
If I had the fre choice and didnt have to consider licence I would go for the 5,5mm. It packs more energy so would be better for hunting.
I have only tried the 4,5mm.
Im happy that you liked the video. Thanks for watching and a merry christmas.
Best regards
Peter P
how much joule power has this rifle?
I think it is 36 j.
Hi Peter......noticed your left handed but shoot on your right side
That is well spotted 😃
I can shoot either way 🙂
Surprised you didn't try the Crosman Premier Ultra Magnum 10.5gr as it's a fairly inexpensive pellet and shoots decently straight. It is also widely available even at places like W-lmart. Great range though! I like your shelter as i'm sure it provides protection from both the elements and prying eyes.
Hey man 🙂
Thanks for your comment 🙂
There are a bunch of pellets and slugs that I would love to have tried, but these were just what I had in stock😃
But I sure that there are many that will perform well - and even better than the ones I tested. So the Crossman could easily be one of them 😎
Thanks for sharing your thoughts mate 🙂
Broh witch caliber ??? 4.5 or 5.5
4,5mm 🙂
Something is wrong here, when it comes to measuring velocity/energy: from the first pellet model to that of 16.2 grains there is a drop of 10 Joules. I wouldn't trust that FX chronometer.
I dont know if I have the right explanaition - or the full explanaition.
First up the FX Chrono is very accurate when measured up against much more expensive chronographs. Go and find the videos about it and you will see.
As for the energy of the gun it is roughly the same shot by shot, but not all energy is tranfered into the velocity of the ammonition. The size of the ammonition plays a big role and from a 8,44 to a 16,2 gr there is a big difference. And from pellets to slugs the difference is even bigger. Think about the surface of the ammonition that has contact to the barrel. Bigger surface - more resistance - less velocity.
@@VikingAirgunner OK, I see what you mean. But, then again, the better (tighter) contact between the pellet and the barrel means the pressurized air is more efficient (less air "leakage").
@@DrAgan_tortojed Agree! And that is also why a damaged pellet will have a slower velocity 🙂
Personally I prefer the JSB Hades
People have different experiences with Hades, but good info that your experiences are positive 🙂
Thanks for sharing 👍
I hear once you go over 1,000 feet per second you break the sound barrier and destabilise the pellet or slug.
Matt Dubber has made THE video about the subject, so without me getting into a long explaination I will advise you to check out that video on his channel: czcams.com/video/HpDKxVuRWto/video.html
Best regards
Peter P
@@VikingAirgunner Yeah, I watched the Matt Dubber video a while ago.
@@VikingAirgunner There is also this footage by Matt Dubber. ........ What causes Pellets to Spiral? | AB101 pt. 11: Precession & Nutation czcams.com/video/pR5j4aZwNH0/video.html
Not true. It is just for lower power guns like break barrels that will break the sound barrier, they can only do it with very light alloy pellets that are not very stable.
@@EarthSurferUSA Utter nonsense, it has nothing to do whether it is a break barrel or not.
how much joule?
36
@@VikingAirgunner very nice part is already ordered
Not the best place to shoot. Lots of houses around. But it's good if the neighbors understand.
It is my neighbours gun 😃
@@VikingAirgunner okay then😛
@Samson No problems.
Don't shoot the house.
You are funny with a ruler) Spring-piston gas springs, these rifles are not about accuracy. These rifles are for fun, for punching teapots, boards, etc.
Any gun has a potential and my test is a guidance in how to explore this potential. If someone wants to shoot teapots this is no doubt a good choice, but the ture potential of the gun is well beyond.
@@VikingAirgunner I agree with you on some points, one thing I know for sure is that a weapon always shoots more accurately than the shooter himself :)
@@haraldthefair-haired7782 😃
@@VikingAirgunner nice content m8, lot of people find here positive information:) make to more)
@@haraldthefair-haired7782 Thanks buddy 🤗 Im doing my very best - and love to do it 🙂
The reason why people are having trouble with their ammo falling out or damaged pellet skirts is because you have to insert pellet so that rubberband is between the head and the skirt,
I use a plastic pen to seat pellet in magazine,
Problem solved
Thats useable info Paolo!!! Thank you for sharing - might help alot of people 🤗
Your model must've been necked down to a lower power than the normal ones, those velocities are not normal for a 4.5mm
Im sure it is very normal.
@@VikingAirgunner Only thing I can think of that would lower the power on it that much would be elevation. If you don't mind me asking, what elevation were you at when doing the test?
@@VikingAirgunner Usually you would see 100+ more feet a second (if not more) with the pellets you used in the video. I am not familiar with the laws in your country, but the non-necked down versions output more power than what you showed. Air rifles are lowered to 12 foot pounds for the UK, Spain, Germany and a few other countries in Europe, so it wouldn't surprise me if where the rifle was originally sold is in one of those countries.
@@xdskroot7247 the airguns are not limited in Denmark 👍
@@xdskroot7247 Im at sea level.
This is the 1650fps
I dont know what is says on the box, but it depends on the type and weight of the ammo used as my test shows.
I know. 22 version only shoots at 750 fps with ur gun
@@TOOREAL-qj2lj 750 fps is way better for accuracy than 1650 anyway 😃
I need heavy impact
I guess it is time for a truth campaign for all these Professional videos touting Gamo as such excellent air rifles.
The truth is Gamo is junk and none of them will ever shoot with acceptable accuracy that can be relied upon for precise humane hunting of small game. You will end up wounding more small game animals than humanely killing them.
I am 67 years young and I have shot springers for over 30 years and I have several that can consistently shoot a dime sized group at 50 yards. When I pick up any Gamo and shoot it and at 25 yards the target group is a two inch group with additional flyers out to 4 or five inches, hint....it is a junk rifle. I can assure you I know how to shoot a springer, these rifles quite simply are not accurate at all.
So lets look at the facts.
Gamo rifles are not accurate. They will wound more animals than kill them. If shooting at only targets I would be ashamed to show how inaccurate they are on camera. Those are not acceptable and or respectable groups, they are deplorable. Awful, terrible, is there even a word for them?
You can feed it any ammo you desire, none will have acceptable accuracy.
This particular model is touted as having super and wonderful iron sights. The truth is that the stock comb is so high the iron sights are not usable and require a very uncomfortable slide down the side of the stock to even see the iron sights. Therefore you might as well not have them.
Yes it is a powerful airgun and produces a high FPE , however it takes two men and a boy to cock it , well not really but it is hard to cock. This cocking force equates to high recoil and even with a properly mounted scope and consistent checks on all the screws and fasteners both on the rifle and the scope mounts and with the stop pin properly seated and held secure with lock-tite, after a few hundred shots you will see the scope has moved back a small amount. Closer inspection will reveal that the stop pin is eating away at the rear of the hole provided for the stop pin. The rifles receiver is not hardened at that point and eventually the stop pin will simply eat an oblong hole in the receiver.
This rifle will eventually kill even an approved scope designed for air rifles. My Gamo Magnum .22 Gen Two killed a Hawke airmax scope. Hawke honored it even though I did tell them what happened to it. I still have it, really do not wish to sell it to some unsuspecting aspiring air gunner. I could dig a hole and bury it, and I have come to the conclusion this may well be the best option. Perhaps I could give it to the local police and have them melt it down. Grin! I would feel bad selling it to someone is what I am saying.
So now that you have shot 500 pellets or so though this mechanical wonder you wish to clean the barrel. Good luck with this one!! There are ways to do this such as using a regular cleaning rod and or a drinking straw and weed eater string however that huge bulb permanently fixed on the end of the barrel has baffles in it that will catch and steal any patch that dares come close enough to them. This huge bulb also collects a substantial amount of lead dust within it and to clean that out requires removing the pins on the end of it and a good scrubbing with hot water and soap and an old toothbrush. That thing will be full of lead dust.
I think everyone should go get themselves a Gamo, at least once in life and if it does not completely destroy your desire to participate in the sport of airgunning, it will at least show you what a junk product is really like.
As you can tell I am not a paid you tube creator with the agenda to promote Gamo.
Go get you one, it is an experience everyone should have at least once. Grin!
Cheers
Kit
How much would you sell it for?
Ok point made what should we buy then? which airguns are considered better than a Gamo? Which are the ones you are using?
@@klrdto3250 I would not sell it as I feel I would be cheating that person. Gamo is best used for your garage side door as a door stop.
@@edge6441 I always recommend the HW95 as it is an very, very accurate air rifle quite capable of dime sized groups and has a short learning curve and is easy to shoot and easy to cock and has adequate power for small game if you prefer to hunt. Another name for this rifle is Beeman R9. They can be found on sale sometimes for around 350 dollars. The difference is Gamo will leave you frustrated, where the HW will cause you to smile and start you on a long enjoyable experience with air guns.
Gamo is Gamo, they are what they are and none of them ever provide acceptable accuracy.
Cheers
Kit
My replay is balls on accurate from about 30 meters it’s a .177 but is very well grouped dime size all day my friend