Hey a little suggestion to make the strategy even more effective: in addition to your army you could also recall a warp prism with your mothership. You can even recall it in the stationary warp in mode and when recalled it will remain stationary for instant warp ins
That force field block to stop the Bio army was chef's kiss. Imagine trying to go for a base trade and being denied even that. Not only did the Zealots rampage in the Terran base, but they also got recalled back home. So as Marc would normally say: Free trade.
Tbh that terran was probably one of the stupidest gms on the ladder Expands to a third before a protoss does AND tries to all in into them simultaneously. And spams tech labs against stargate If marc didn’t win it would be pretty sad
Sentries really are mandatory with this strat. Especially in the mid game where its safe to say they wont have mass air or 30 bases, getting force fielded out of your main and having it completely gutted is just kindof an insta-gg. Its one of those strats to which the only counter is 'if you werent such a noob you would have scouted this'.
@@Name-ru1ktlol yeah the fact that after a failed proxy and then a failed all in and then taking a greedy third with two ccs building in the main that got canceled and then he was still in the game at all had was actually very impressive.
Mothership core did exist along with the Mothership. That was in the Heart of the Swarm era. You built the core early, and later with necessery tech could upgrade it into the mothership)
Love from Goa, India!! This is my late night ritual before going to bed🔥 Starcraft was the first Game CD I had purchased as a kid.. literally by chance.. and I absolutely loved it.. There is no Starcraft II here, but it's just pure Bliss watch you play and entertain people like us❤❤
uThermal, sorry to somewhat correct you but the scientific term for the mothership vortex + archon strat was called "Archon Toilet". the way it works, basically its a black hole, it doesnt damage your units if i recall, but it was basically a stasis that sucked your units up. if you intentionally put your archons in the black hole, when the spell ends every unit is stacked on one pixel.. so the archons can each get off and hit their entire army, it was stupid and awesome
Ahhhh it's been a while since I've thought about the Archon Toilet. StarCraft has come a long way since those lawless days. Thanks for reminding me of my youth!
I think spellcasters to GM would be a good series. Anything that doesn't *primarily* rely on its basic attack to influence the battle would count. That way motherships, ghosts, and warp prisms could be used as well.
One cheese you did that was so fun to watch was tempest rush with a proxy battery, just outside their base, so the tempests could almost sit on the battery and shoot over the water and destroy the base. I'd love to see more of that!
25:20 weird, I just ate dill pickle just before he said "pickle". What's the next secret food word? Ham, Chicken? He walledhimself out of his own base. So good.
I remember when mothershipcore could overcharge nexuses even Then they changed it to pylons which was definitely better balanced But I actually like shield batteries more than the core
yeah i rremember that protoss ability where you could just throw a bunch of archons into the black hole and they'd pop out and do big aoe damage to stacked opponents. It was called the archon toilet or something like that
Nice content uThermal! The Mothership cloaking from Swarm Hosts thats what I do in 4v4 back when permanent Cloaking Field still is a thing. Mothership as expected looks strong for early to mid. Makes me wonder if this is gonna get nerfed. Something not impossible. Might as well bring back Mothership Core nerf it a bit and allow upgrade to 5.0.11 Patch Mothership with cooldowns and maneuverability of 5.0.12 Patch Mothership. 5.0.12 Patch Mothership is looking clearly weaker in mid-game to late game and ultra late game (basing on playing and watching games that reached that point and Mothership's current stats and abilities). Also its way weaker in Team Games too. Edit: Added stuffs sorry.
Hey Marc, I'm Marc From the council of Marcs. I just wanted to say keep up the good work soldier. Word is the council of Mar"k"s really hate good mornings.
I know that in GM it's mostly Pros, but could you make some top Korean pro play with you in a cheesy series? Just to see how they deal with it? Maybe the series would be called "Cheese vs Korea" or something? Love your videos Mark. You should also Collab with Mana with some custom cheesy games or in some 1v1s with GM but with the concept of two of you controlling 1 race and 2 other pros controlling other, it would be amazing!!
oh and btw : do you rent out your opponents to Harstem or vice versa ? the guy from the second game is probably rlly fed up being abused as yt-vicitim by you two all the time :D
Excuse me Mr Thermy, I would make a suggestion/request. Would it be possible for you to show the scoreboard I would love to see what the exchange of MMR looks like. I love you're channel, videos are always so much fun and top notch
why not take probe with the mothership call than you make pylon and warp zealots in his base while forcefielding the ramp even at basetrade its nice have a pylon
It always bums me out to hear you say "this is one of the last episodes for this "blank" series"... You've had a bunch of great series but this is a current favorite of mine. Truly enjoying the content. Cheers Thermy.
you know what i dont like about your videos? they are too entertaining, and it makes it hard to work. also, i gotta say. you are so good at commentary. (let alone the fact that you do it simultaneously while you play haha.) but i occasionally watch some other commentators, but they dont hold a candle to you. really well done. and just for the record, i have never been good at sc2, i currently dont play it at all, but i am still binging on your channel.
There is absolutely no way thermy's friend is a better protoss player. Have you seen yourself?!? You're insanely good. I don't buy it until I see a showmatch
not sure if it’s just on youtube mobile, but the quality is very low and unchangeable. not sure if this is just on my end or anyone else experiencing this?
I would love to see you add on a time limit to some of your cheeses, like Mothership rush, win by minute 10 or you have to GG out, that way you basically can't fall back onto macro and you can't make this game look as easy.
Hey a little suggestion to make the strategy even more effective: in addition to your army you could also recall a warp prism with your mothership. You can even recall it in the stationary warp in mode and when recalled it will remain stationary for instant warp ins
That force field block to stop the Bio army was chef's kiss. Imagine trying to go for a base trade and being denied even that. Not only did the Zealots rampage in the Terran base, but they also got recalled back home. So as Marc would normally say: Free trade.
No, he would need to lose a few things in order to say free trade. ;)
Zealots getting whiplashed being teleported back and forth across the map
Tbh that terran was probably one of the stupidest gms on the ladder
Expands to a third before a protoss does AND tries to all in into them simultaneously. And spams tech labs against stargate
If marc didn’t win it would be pretty sad
Sentries really are mandatory with this strat. Especially in the mid game where its safe to say they wont have mass air or 30 bases, getting force fielded out of your main and having it completely gutted is just kindof an insta-gg. Its one of those strats to which the only counter is 'if you werent such a noob you would have scouted this'.
@@Name-ru1ktlol yeah the fact that after a failed proxy and then a failed all in and then taking a greedy third with two ccs building in the main that got canceled and then he was still in the game at all had was actually very impressive.
Mothership core did exist along with the Mothership. That was in the Heart of the Swarm era. You built the core early, and later with necessery tech could upgrade it into the mothership)
Love from Goa, India!!
This is my late night ritual before going to bed🔥
Starcraft was the first Game CD I had purchased as a kid.. literally by chance.. and I absolutely loved it..
There is no Starcraft II here, but it's just pure Bliss watch you play and entertain people like us❤❤
The Mothership defence was AMAZING.
uThermal, sorry to somewhat correct you but the scientific term for the mothership vortex + archon strat was called "Archon Toilet".
the way it works, basically its a black hole, it doesnt damage your units if i recall, but it was basically a stasis that sucked your units up. if you intentionally put your archons in the black hole, when the spell ends every unit is stacked on one pixel.. so the archons can each get off and hit their entire army, it was stupid and awesome
Ahhhh it's been a while since I've thought about the Archon Toilet. StarCraft has come a long way since those lawless days. Thanks for reminding me of my youth!
Ah yes my favorite part of the day! I was looking forward to 1PM to watch thermy. Just got 4 root canals and ready to enjoy the best entertainer ever!
I think spellcasters to GM would be a good series. Anything that doesn't *primarily* rely on its basic attack to influence the battle would count. That way motherships, ghosts, and warp prisms could be used as well.
I want this for zerg
29:29 Yes they did Mark, The mothership core upgrades into the mothership!!
The proxy racks guy not gg-ing is the height of irony.
0:57 it's 12 am for me, but at least to me, it doesnt matter if you say "good morning" even though I have yet to sleep
One cheese you did that was so fun to watch was tempest rush with a proxy battery, just outside their base, so the tempests could almost sit on the battery and shoot over the water and destroy the base. I'd love to see more of that!
I love the way you pronounce "stauulker".
25:20 weird, I just ate dill pickle just before he said "pickle". What's the next secret food word? Ham, Chicken? He walledhimself out of his own base. So good.
I liked deatailed explanation of strategy reading in first game. Would like to hear a bit more of this in your videos.
I remember when mothershipcore could overcharge nexuses even
Then they changed it to pylons which was definitely better balanced
But I actually like shield batteries more than the core
Oh man, having the mothership cloak the mineral line was so satisfying.
it might have been a little lucky - but good lawd so good to watch.
there you go again marc, first time i get to see a video after 5min uploaded!
Absolutely beautiful. Also, love the Good Morning from Uthermal, don’t change it😂
Damn. It's 2AM here when I watched this. I feel called out
Funny, you're recording at 10am and your videos come out at 10am for me!
yeah i rremember that protoss ability where you could just throw a bunch of archons into the black hole and they'd pop out and do big aoe damage to stacked opponents. It was called the archon toilet or something like that
Mother-ship inbound!
Nice content uThermal!
The Mothership cloaking from Swarm Hosts thats what I do in 4v4 back when permanent Cloaking Field still is a thing.
Mothership as expected looks strong for early to mid. Makes me wonder if this is gonna get nerfed. Something not impossible.
Might as well bring back Mothership Core nerf it a bit and allow upgrade to 5.0.11 Patch Mothership with cooldowns and maneuverability of 5.0.12 Patch Mothership.
5.0.12 Patch Mothership is looking clearly weaker in mid-game to late game and ultra late game (basing on playing and watching games that reached that point and Mothership's current stats and abilities). Also its way weaker in Team Games too.
Edit: Added stuffs sorry.
Hey Marc, I'm Marc From the council of Marcs. I just wanted to say keep up the good work soldier. Word is the council of Mar"k"s really hate good mornings.
Good morning to you at 3pm, Marc!
ProtozzAVR is really having PTSD (Protoss Traumatic Stress Disorder) against thermy. 😂😂😂
Did I just seriously hear the pseudo-return of the archon toilet?!
Been playing this game since literally the Beta my friend - I remember it all
literally the only time you go voidray first they rush marauders... plot armor unbelievable
good morning back to you!
This is one of the best videos of the year :)
Man what a rush. As we say in the dutchlands: I was sitting at the tip of my chair
Awesome stuff
Good morning Marc!
(3:44 AM)
One's gotta love uthermal Protoss gameplay!
it is 1pm for me. but good morning is working for me today...
Forcefielding ramps in the mothershiprush. --just perfect!
I'd love to see a sentry in the first recall in to do a ramp-block.
Good morning Marc !! :D
I know that in GM it's mostly Pros, but could you make some top Korean pro play with you in a cheesy series? Just to see how they deal with it?
Maybe the series would be called "Cheese vs Korea" or something?
Love your videos Mark.
You should also Collab with Mana with some custom cheesy games or in some 1v1s with GM but with the concept of two of you controlling 1 race and 2 other pros controlling other, it would be amazing!!
oh and btw : do you rent out your opponents to Harstem or vice versa ? the guy from the second game is probably rlly fed up being abused as yt-vicitim by you two all the time :D
Could it be a good idea to incorporate a Oracle in some way to be able to scout the Spire (and zoom towards it with Tempests?)
Have you tried time warp+storm? Could make for some very cool games
sick game 3! 🛸
Present for my daily dose.
Thanks Marc.
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You know what, today I decided to become an Advanced Caveman on your patreon.
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I feel like this is how it should go. The mothership is the Protoss' ULTIMATE Unit, it should do ULTIMATE things.
Your first opponent was that salty guy from the other video!
I keep half-expecting the archon toilet
It's two am for me, but good morning, i don't mind.
mothership archons - known as the archon toilet was one of the funniest builds ever.
Archon toilet nostalgia :)
is uthermal the new herO? some of these ideas are so crazy that they just might work
Excuse me Mr Thermy, I would make a suggestion/request. Would it be possible for you to show the scoreboard I would love to see what the exchange of MMR looks like. I love you're channel, videos are always so much fun and top notch
Good evening!
HE SAID MOTHERSHIP CORE ON ACCIDENT YESSSSSS HAHAH the core would upgrade to a MS
Yes both existed, you needed the Core first before you could get the full mothership
why not take probe with the mothership call than you make pylon and warp zealots in his base while forcefielding the ramp even at basetrade its nice have a pylon
Good Morning :D
I believe the mothership core can transform into the mothership once u have a fleet beacon
It always bums me out to hear you say "this is one of the last episodes for this "blank" series"... You've had a bunch of great series but this is a current favorite of mine. Truly enjoying the content. Cheers Thermy.
Uhm well it was 7:27 PM...
and yes... GOOD MORNING!!!
GG
Just got on break at work, earliest I ever been 😂
You can still overcharge pylons in Heroes of the Storm as Probius.
You are pretty good as protoss
Man I wanna see that game 2 in is it imba or do I suck - looks like a strong contender to get the stamp
you know what i dont like about your videos? they are too entertaining, and it makes it hard to work. also, i gotta say. you are so good at commentary. (let alone the fact that you do it simultaneously while you play haha.) but i occasionally watch some other commentators, but they dont hold a candle to you. really well done. and just for the record, i have never been good at sc2, i currently dont play it at all, but i am still binging on your channel.
Let's go!
Good old Archon Toilets
Call back to the Archon Toilet 😂
There is absolutely no way thermy's friend is a better protoss player. Have you seen yourself?!? You're insanely good. I don't buy it until I see a showmatch
hey uThermal, the thing u were talking about is the so called "Archon toilet" u r welcome =)
Ah...Vortex... good old Archon Toilets...
Vortex+archon was the most broken late game combo ever. Instant destroy 150+ army supply. Watch the highlights online for a good laugh.
Thermy is the man ❤
It is in fact 4:30 am
Proposal for new challenge: try to force draws against GMs
Archon toilet. Yes I remember😊
I love this. 🤣
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I miss the outro song 😢
Is the sharpness higher in this video or is it me?
would be real nice to have the camera on your desktop (your hands), to see what you actually "do" :)) the speed of which anyway :)
next time go mass arbiters for more recalls
i think mothership core turned into mothership? i thinks its weird only protoss had a "hero unit"
not sure if it’s just on youtube mobile, but the quality is very low and unchangeable. not sure if this is just on my end or anyone else experiencing this?
Didn't you have to build the Mothership Core, and then from that build the Mothership?
Zealot is a curse to protoss, cause protoss players just lose so many zealots for free to opponents and often accomplishing little to nothing.
Ptitdrogo are u here? i know u are watching because you always said "to be fair" like Uthermal at HSC last weekend XD
Does the mothership not have the black hole ability any more?
No
I feel like you're pretty much ready to use protoss builds in serious matches. Really impressive micro
Is harstem your “friend?”
How would you handle this as Terran?
Scouting
I would love to see you add on a time limit to some of your cheeses, like Mothership rush, win by minute 10 or you have to GG out, that way you basically can't fall back onto macro and you can't make this game look as easy.
Protoss >>>>> any others. Protoss has that instant warp destroying anything
Use this as a like button if you want thermys next name to be "baboon opponent" 21:11🤣
First!! And I liked my own comment first!
Imba
Who doesn't like their own comments 😂😂😂
@@KoDoG06I don't, hate that guy
@@Thiole idk why that made me laugh so hard but thx
@Bump33 no problem! Took me a minute to type, too. I was laughing pretty hard.