The Brilliant Russian V-22 Helicopter - Mil 30
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In the year 1972. Soviet design bureau Mil embarked on an ambitious journey.
The goal - tiltrotor aircraft to replace the Mi-8 in the future.
Experienced with their own work on Mi V-12 and inspired by Kamov designs, the idea was pretty straightforward, but as we know today with aviation projects - idea is often not enough.
Let’s go see why the Soviet Osprey never took to the skies.
Ever since WW2, this one concept has been very intriguing for the engineers on the both sides of the Iron curtain.
That is - building a very fast helicopter, or a VTOL transport airplane.
And you know it that the Nazis actually tried this first, but it’s a topic for another day.
Anyway, the British built their famous Fairey Rotodyne and the Soviet Kamov bureau built Ka-22, but the Americans had a different concept.
Unlike the - 2 pair of engines for vertical and horizontal movement - concept that the British and the Soviets explored, Bell created a tiltrotor aircraft called the XV-3 in 1955.
Jump forward a bit and we’re in the 70s and this is where Mil’s story starts.
After their attempts with the gyrodyne and hybrid helicopter concepts like the Mi V-12, the Soviet spies went over to Bell for let’s say “inspiration” for this new project.
This time their transport helicopter project would base its design on the tilt rotor engines.
How does this work?
Well to put it simply, during the take off, engines would be tilted upwards and the aircraft would be controlled similar to a tandem rotor helicopter, after gaining altitude, engines would rotate into a horizontal position and the aircraft would be able to have transport airplane performance in terms of speed.
For example, Mi-8 would fly at around 220km/h with maximum speed at 250km/h and Mi-30s projected top speed was somewhere between 500 and 600km/h.
To put this even more into perspective, V-22 Osprey’s top speed stands at 509 km/h, and Ka-22, the previous Soviet gyrodyne project, achieved the class record speed of 356km/h so now you can understand why this tiltrotor concept was so interesting.
With the main idea behind the concept ready, Mil bureau got the TsAGI, the Central aero-hydro dynamic institute behind them and started working on the project.
As we previously mentioned, the goal of this project was to replace the Mi-8.
But the greed and unrealistic requirements would prove to be a roadblock on this project very soon.
This video features the impressive model by our team member Andrei Stanavov. Its just plain awesome, and you can see his work here: www.artstation.com/stanavov
If there is one aircraft that needs a deep dive, it is the Lockheed L-133 Starjet.
@@WolfeSaber9933 It's amazing that you mention the L-133. I just left a comment asking for him to do a video on canard aircraft from the same era. The British had several different plans from the same time period that the Lockheed L-133 was designed. The L-133 stands out from all the other aircraft designs from that time. It's hard to believe that it designed in 1939. I was thinking of asking him to do a video on the L-133 but I really want to see a video about the British canard aircraft. One of them, the Avro 730 looks so cool.✌️
Hey Found and Explained, Have you watched Simon Whistler’s “Side Projects,” video about secret Soviet weapons. Some of the animations might look familiar.
Ummm I've never heard any aviation video say "Me" instead of "Em Eye".
Since you've got expert level knowledge of aviation, can I assume this is actually the correct Russian style pronunciation ?
Why say V- two two tho' ?
@@edwardfletcher7790 to answer that, the use of Me instead of Em eye is more correct to how a Russian would say it.
Oh my god the rotors actually spin in the right direction in the animation fantastic attention to detail, people always miss that for tilt rotors and especially the XF5U flying flapjack
you're a furry.
Look up " vlogger DESTROYS Western "news" on China protests " on yT.
Real footage......
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Checks out.
@@sojourner.
I should change that banner shouldn't i
When is Russia going to actually build this weapon
Osprey with vodka
Yes
This are the best coment
Vodka if it was a tiltrotor aircraft.
Vodka-22
🤣🤣🤣
The V22 has had its own issues, the Bell V-280 Valor looks interesting and actually works more similarly to this rather than the v22 which rotates it’s entire engine nacelles
I am still hoping the Defiant X wins the contract but I think both the Valor and the Defiant X have their uses
@@Yuki_Ika7 to be honest, me too and I think it will
@@L33tSkE3t interesting to note that the mil 30 use valor swing type.
No the valor will win. The defiant has basically the same helicopter in the other competition. It can win that one.
@@jeffreymckinney1013 and it looks like it has won with it being announced yesterday. Honestly, they were both great candidates and I think the V-280 will perform well. With it's higher capable top speed, could extend it's performance and operations envelope
Another great video, wonderful storytelling and incredible animations!
Wow your 3D builds have improved so much !
The modeler of this particular Helicopter is very talented. we linked his portfolio in the description.
Я никогда не слышал о таком проекте летательного аппарата. Нигде не доводилось читать даже. Узнал впервые от Вас! От вашего ''Found And Explained'' научно - познавательного канала!
Потому что концепт мертворожденный. Две огромные слабые точки защитить сложнее. Тем более что и места для их защиты мало. На таком разве что в мирное время летать.
Не совсем так, что мертворождённый. Просто сильно всё затянулось из-за постоянных новых требований, хотели увеличения грузоподъемности всё больше и больше ... конструкция постоянно менялась ... дотянули до 90-ых ... а там понятно, что без вариантов.
Something important with modern aircrafts like vtol capable f-35s is integration of computer systems. Could you do a video on the history of that development. When did computers start going into planes or aircraft? Auto pilot systems? Etc….
Great Idea!
I know that one of the first was the 1950s German VTOL fighter program the VJ101 and VAK191 used gyroscopic fly by wire to handle the hover and transition to and from horizontal flight.
-In general jet aircraft had a number of problems. They have a tendency to snake so devices called yaw dampers have to be used to control the rudder. Near the speed of sound wing center of life changes and the aircraft nose pitches down. This "Mach Tuck" is automatically compensated by trimming the tail plane. Changes in thrust tend to lead to aircraft pitch changes so that is compensated. Eventually it became easier to do all by it by fly by wire.
-The SR-71 was 'augmented' where the pilots controls the surfaces manually but a computer system increases or decreases the deflection to account for the aircraft's vastly different handling in landing, subsonic, trans-sonic, supersonic, hyper-sonic flight.
-Instead of giving a pilot artificial feel so he doesn't over stress the aircraft it became possible to just reduce the deflect the controls less and use g sensors and rate gyros on top.
-It was a slow process step by step. The French Mirage 2000 and F-16 were some of the first but I believe the Avro Canada Arrow was fully fly by wire.
@@williamzk9083 Canada Arrow was British TSR.
I've never heard of this before, thank you for covering it and for such a well detailed description.
I've always dreamed of a war that includes EVERY SINGLE one of these odd machines that never saw the full extent of glory on the battlefield. This channel has allowed me to make up a list of most these machines for that far future project.
Girls & Frankenmachines
Maybe make a videogame? [You know, sel the idea to a video game developer]
Pretty sure given the increasing popularity of Tilt Rotor craft, we'll see a design like this being used by militaries, probably not too many years in the future as well.
All a pathetic distraction from the anti gravity craft that are far better and have existed for decades. Decades.
Investigating Russian and Soviet helicopters is always interesting, they are all such unique designs and are often hard to find.
USMC - what our MV-22's are chopped liver?
We already have some for electric air taxis.
The idea of the tilt rotor is good but the devil is in the detail of implementing it safely. There are a lot of moving parts that have t work perfectly. The Soviets didn't really have the technology in the day. Fly By Wire, MEMS gyros, shaping changing alloys to control rotor pitch.
I fly on the 22’s. They’re a great aircraft. They have some issues, but they’re a very safe aircraft. Unfortunately, most of the mishaps we’ve had recently have been due to pilot error, not mechanical. #flymarines
Maybe some better automations or warning systems could help, I saw a similar idea being developed for gyrocopters.
@@vitordelima have you ever been on a V-22? What would you describe as better?
You are the person I have in mind every time I go to the aircraft. I’m a NAVAIR flight test engineer and my last program was the MV-22 along with the Navy variant. Every time I sign a flight clearance I take a short break. I just breath and try to think about anything I might have missed. You and the rest of the crew are who weigh heavy on my mind. My worst nightmare is I miss something that causes the loss of an aircraft and crew. I’m not a religious person but I say a prayer that my decision is right and then sign the clearance. I also used to take care of the USAF versions but they weren’t a large part of my job.
Clearly, you're no pilot!!!
@@kaptainkaos1202 Computer assistance for flights, the one I saw for small gyroplanes gave all sorts of warnings every time something wrong was about to happen for example.
Great content as always-the USSR had ideas that ended up being research dreams-for instance the Buran,Ekranoplan,the Krylya Tanka,Bartini Beriev,the Zveno the list is endless.
It seems like part of that may be just their different approach to development, testing via production of many prototypes rather than rigorous testing of small models, and modelling etc.
@@DoubleMonoLR Couldn't agree more-that and political short spanned interest if not meddling and pittance budgeting cost the projects.
i don't see the equivalent of those ideas you mentioned in the US .. besides its just an indication of how progressive the Russian scientific research is
the current technology they have is on par with america
i'm talking jet fighters and actually Russia is way ahead with hypersonic rockets which the US is still struggling to invent
@@xtensionxward3659 вы пересказываете мифы и сказки российской пропаганды. Все, что сейчас имеет россия - наследство и остатки от СССР, и ничего нового! Только перекрашенные новой японской краской, старые разработки и дипломные проекты студентов 80-х годов.
@@DoubleMonoLRstop lying
The V-22 is only really a success in the sense that it is the first to successfully incorporate the tilt-rotor concept into a viable production aircraft.
Isn't that enough.?failure leads to success
If you check the US Marine and USAF mishap statistics you will find that is not correct. The V-22 had a troubled development (as all modern military aircraft do) but today the CV-22, MV-22 and CMV-22 are among the safest and most capable rotorwing aircraft the US military flies.
The hardest hitting thing in this video is the ad transition. I really enjoy your writing.
Awesome video. Thanks for all the great info.
Very interesting as usual, thank you for your nice videos!
Thanks for sharing mate. Keep up the good work. 👍
It's amazing seeing how your channel keeps improving. Keep up the great work!!
why is he still stanning russian crap though?
Great model design!
Best thing to see right after work
Those door gunners seem like they have a great chance of shooting the props.
Great video as always. I was wondering if you have plans to do a video on the British canard aircraft designs from the WWII period? They had several plans from fighters to b0mbers. For example the Miles M35 and M39. There were some wild drawings for super-heavy b0mbers too. During the beginning of the cold war they tried again with plans for a mach 3 canard reconnaissance/b0mber called the Avro 730. I think you're the best to show us how they would look and their pros & cons. Keep up the awesome work.
And then anti gravity craft were figured out in the 50’/60’s and onward secretly. Screw these antiquated propeller propelled aircraft, I’ve been right near silently hovering triangle anti gravity craft in the Navy.
Very cool helicopter thingy!
Insane animation and design
Man, I need me a model of this thing, that is awesome
Great👍
Badass looking attack Helicopter 😎
Whoooo, love this channel
*Soviet engineering at it’s finest*
excellent work
Synchronized rocket pods. They are also used on the Farley Offspray.
There is no such things as a Farley Offspray
@@AeriaGloria You GOT to be kiddin me….
And how in the world were they supposed to synchronize weapons release considering you were literally firing through the arc of the propellers providing lift/ forward motion.
With the osprey, weapons are deployed in such a way you don't have that problem
This is awesome
hey found and explained, i have been watching your videos for over two years. your animations also inspire me to continue learning blender. i would love if you showed us your work flow. also your animations have come along way, i would love to know how you learned
Nick has some plans in the future to possibly teach how he does it. I will let him know you showed interest.
Jared- Channel Manager
@@FoundAndExplained i would love that! i would be excited to see what he has to say. i have been learning blender for almost two years, and there is still so much more to learn. i would love to make better animations. thanks for replying i love your content as well
Scary good looking artist’ rendering.
I like that segue into the sponsor lol
In some ways it’s shocking how advance the Soviet armament was
They would build things that the West had no answer too
I would be a very nervous gunner looking straight out at those blades.
Wow so interesting!))
amazing helicopter 😍
Top notch CGI as usual!
Looks great
TsAGI is not pronounced as T-S-A-G-I, but as "tsaghee".
As for the aircraft, looking at the door gunner's station, I could imagine the pain of trying to hit anything without shooting the propellor. Same with the rocket pods closer to the engines, though one would expect them to be deactivated automatically when in horizontal flight mode.
The low speed center gravity looks nearly impossible to stabilize at low speeds or while hovering. When the canards are not generating lift, & that hoping where designed to generate lift at a high efficiency.
The words 'Brilliant' and 'Russian' should never be used in the same sentence.
Is “Mi” really pronounced it “me?”
And I’m pretty sure people say “Vee-Twenty-Two,” not “Vee-Two-Two.”
Ничего себе, я думал это реальная съёмка, а это 3д-модель! Моё почтение. Looks really badass
the model is so nice looking
EXCELENTE CANAL......
I really enjoy your videos Sir
Frm 🇳🇬
Both the mil 30 and v22 osprey would have gone head to head in the heat of battle
Me waiting patiently for the mustard vid.
I’d love to see a video of the first test flight when they fired their rocket pods!
This would be an interesting comedy for HBO. The Pentagon Wars meets Citizen X. The antagonists in the political and military bureaucracy could be played by Stephen Rae and Carrey Elwes respectively.
Greetings! Who made your 3D model and animated it? It's fantastic.
The link to the portfolio of the Modeler of this particular one is in the bio.
The soviets didnt have a website, man thats good add intro ngl
fairey is pronounced fair-rey btw :P impressive videos as ever. cant help but think that the rockets with the props forward for level flight would hit the blades 1st before the ground targets.
Russia would have to have the money to build it first if they wanted to find that out.
they probably shot those with the props rotated up, that way you have more control anyways for targeting given that those are all unguided.
I would like to more of these helicopter videos
Why it never took to this skies?
Because they weren't able to throw an unimaginable fortune in development costs at it.
Intresting vidoe, what's the name of the large U.S. transport aircraft shown sitting on the tarmac at the beginning of the video?
Thank you for your videos. I live in a town that makes helicopters. I couldn't imagine that the buildings I pass next to every day on my way to university were designed like this
yes I am in need of a new airframe for my new hypersonic aircraft so I will be getting squarespace for the airframe.
Might as well let people know about Vertoplan (1939) - a thing that came way before Bell Boeing Osprey similarly how TB-3 came way before Flying Fortress
animations were awesome
Check out the other work of our excellent modeler in the description.
Jared- Channel Manager
I remember seeing the Bell XV-15 flying around Farnborough in the late 70s. Look that up and see where the Americans got the notion from. And it wasn't Mil.
nice video
[best pickup lines in history] "Dont be a soviet, be my GF" LOL
So brilliant it never flew :)
The model used in the video looks like a vehicle in the lobby of squad or battlefield 2042
Thank you for another great video, could you please explain what is happening at 6:57 and by what helicopter thank you very much eh.
It looks like they're just dropping supplies, which matches what he's talking about at about the same time.
Imagine a this with 2 Vulcan guns instead of rockets
For Arrakis?
The Soviet engineers was really good, it was the economy or politics that held many projects back.
The American V22 carries 9 tons. This Mil machine only manages 2 tons.
The original concept yes. But it was increased to almost the same as the Osprey. And it doesn’t matter anyways things this thing wasn’t built.
6:38 Ah Rambo 3 ❤
I come for the square space advertisements and stay for the aircraft information
The dancing aliens appreciate it.
Thanks for the video. The internal power struggle in the polit bureau was responsible for the increasing requirements, since many party influencers were also intimately connected with the defence industry: the polit bureau was supplying the passports and the foreign governments the money. Go figure.
History is full of what looks like very good projects only for it to run out of time. You only have to look at all the aircraft projects which were shelved at the end of WW2
8:28
I thought you were about to tell me that "by the 1990s, the Soviet government decided that time travel was also required before granting additional funding"😂
From a purely aesthetic perspective, I like this one more than the V-22.
Rocket pods and canards make everything better
Tail sections looks like Garbage on this…
Russia won't need a tiltrotor. They have a close in A2AD defensive strategy. This is based on protecting your national borders. It is not an expeditionary army depending on rapid air and sea lift.
You are right. Ambition is never enough. Especially in Russia
Just another very nice video, loved it.
You should make justice to the French, you should give a dive to the Mirage Mach 3 projects (there is even one for a Mach 4 Scramjet interceptor), the Logiduc stealth bomber project or the Hermes space shuttle project. The French really had a lot of interesting projects and they still do.
Farley was a British company that made baby food. Fairey was a British company that made the Rotodyne.
The videos are otherwise so good it’s a little cringy to see such simple mistakes make through the editing process.
I would love to see the German vtol
Impressive, very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's VTOL.
First was RU on Yakovlev Yak 38 VTOL in '80 ,next F35 US and Mil 30 before to V22
It would need some very impressive jet engines to accept turbulent post prop air and then combust it in a stable way.
Long have I waited…
I worked under the first active v22 unit in Iraq. Loud,but awesome.
How do youbtime unguided missles with the rotors without blowing the rotors off
Cool
now i just noticed
the drawings i saw about this tiltrotor are all in conventional configuration quite like the V-22 or the AW609, but the model in the video uses canard configuration
hmmm
8:27 oh no that voice crack 💀
Not sure if anyone noticed this. but there is a small error with the name of the 2 craft here 4:58 you called the Mil MI-30 the MI-8.
You should make a collab with a model maker, a lot us us would by those beatiful aircraft we see in your videos
Let’s be real. It’s for the best that many of these nice looking Soviet designs never got off the ground. They’d be left to rust away and be abused by the elements by corrupt Russians who don’t bother doing basic maintenance today. It’d be heart breaking.
Indeed. There's so many examples of Soviet/Russian prestige projects that just end up rotting due to lack of maintenance, with the Admiral Kuznetsov being the premiere example of such.
Firing a machine gun out the side door in that much downwash, hoo boy. Good luck.
Nice target to shoot..!
With Western ones being the exception? Anything that flies are nice targets, doesn't matter East or West.
This man is almost like mustard’s channel
Doesn’t any tilt rotor aircraft have very low survivability?
Soviet: Let's create cool cars, comrades! After a few times:Oh no, comrades, it's too expensive and complicated to use!Better let's get back to simplicity and reliability!
So for example, a cool T-64 tank turned into a simple massive T-72!