The fact that Mark after actually being serious can essentially win a fight against an older Viltrumite is really insane. Like if he didn’t hesitate right at the end he would have 100% killed her and won that fight
This goes to show how RESILIENT Mark is! When he was fighting his dad, he took quite the beating. Considering how the flashback shown the Viltrumites tearing through eachother like tissue paper and he lasted so long against veterans... I'm impressed
@@misturjosturr7658yeah i was gonna say even without a situation like that, i think id know blood is thicker than water lol. Thats not much confirmation
@@misturjosturr7658Relationships you make yourself is not stronger than that of the womb, and never is otherwise. However due to pain that blood can turn to water and be less than that relationships you have forged on your own, and that water you forged into blood through manefeststion. Friends can be closer than family due to this pain in family relationships. However, this wiccan saying was made to denote that you are more powerful than God and what he intended you can sever or make better, and what is forged by man is stronger than that which is forged from the beginning. The big difference between the bible and the wiccan bible is one does not have ego nor rebellion as their core strength.
What makes this battle really cool is that Mark fights both like a human and a viltrumite. He uses human-like techniques but stops holding back for a moment. But he didn't suddenly become this OP insensitive murderer, it takes time to adjust to the warrior mentality so his second battle against a viltrumite is still a loss for him, just not as one-sided as before.
Honestly he technically won the 2nd fight. He literally defeated Thula but only "lost" (ie getting stabbed) cuz he couldn't bring himself to finish her
It's pretty gross to think that the majority of Nolan's finishers don't actually kill the viltrumites, They just leave them in massive staggering pain until they heal lol.
Extreme violence is a major part of the show, really? I hadn’t noticed. Maybe they should make omni-man commit genocide against humanity a second time just to make it more obvious.
@@AliceSpages-fz4kc 🤦 You completely missed what he said, he’s saying that these injuries really just incapacitate viltrumites for a long time before they can get medical help, unlike humans. Please read comments first before replying
It’s been a while, so I might he misremembering, but Nolan does kill two Viltrumites in this fight. The only one that survives is Lucan, who was also beaten by Nolan and left for dead before sneak attacking him and immediately passing out.
You ever watch that episode of Justice League when Superman stops holding back and punches Darkside so hard, he flew have across town like he was a paper plane? imagine that.
It's crazy to think that mark who is 18, who only had his powers for about a year was able to physically overpower someone who has lived hundreds of years. He truly has the biggest potential out of all the viltrumites including thragg
He has *SPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILER* royal blood in him which contributes to his strength. It's why even though he was never bred for the purpose of combat and all, Nolan is still top three in terms of strength
he has a thing viltrumites don't have, it's confirmed that pure viltrumites don't have adrenaline but since Mark's a hybrid, once he locks in, it's about to go down
The fact that Mark is so young and fought like that against an older viltrumite just comes to show how powerful Mark really is and how much more powerful he will become.
@thanoskitsos5710 not really. Just his human morals and that was from being raised by Debbie. Human and viltrumite DNA are compatible because both races are almost anatomically exact... same vital organs, same skin pigments, same reproductive system, etc... only difference is Viltrumite cells evolved into something much greater after thousands of years of selective breeding... making them unbelievably strong, durable, and for some reason, it gives the ability of flight... it's probably safe to assume that in the beginning of Viltrumite civilization, they were not much different than normal humans. So... When a Human and Viltrumite reproduce, it's basically just making a Viltrumite...
Makes sense that mark was actually able to go toe to toe with another viltrumite, he survived a fight against his dad who's also strong amongst viltrumites and his dad trusted him to fight her on his own if he stopped holding back which shows that Nolan knew that mark was strong enough
@@howdydoodilly6812 Viltrumite War either happens at the end of this season, or the beginning of the next season. They might save that for later, given how big that is. I doubt they would do it all in one episode. If I remember, it's so fierce that it basically changes the landscape of Earth.
@Jykobe491 My man, the brutality of this series is a big part of why the comics are so good and the show stays relatively true to the essence of the comics
@@Iloveyou-dz7mqIts not gory, its graphic The comics and the show doesnt emphasis gore element at all when it isnt necessary unlike the Boys for exemple where everything is gory for no reasons In Invincible, the gore onlu emphasis the extreme brutality situation. In s1 you have only 3 gore moment for exemple, the guardian, BattleBeast, and the final fight against Omni-man. Flaxian genocide is kinda keep clean for exemple, you dont need to see gory element after the first head poping.
Part of what I love in this sequence is that the people he's fighting are literally not psychologically capable of understanding what centers Mark and allows him to stand up to them.
Gotta love the details in mark´s fighting, he is not just going brutal, he goes in cold blooded, lands some combos, blocks when needed, the fight may become more sluggish towards the end when it was switching between Mark and Omni-man´s scenes, but that start was just beautifull to see.
I think some people are interpreting this as “Mark has always been holding back to not hurt people” and I don’t know if that’s accurate. He isn’t holding back on purpose, he’s overthinking. He’s so hard on himself and assumes everything he’s doing is wrong to the point where he’s limiting himself without realizing it. It’s when he finally shuts his brain off for a second and just acts that he realizes for the first time just how capable he is.
i can honestly see what you mean there , when he fights her for real he doesn't seem to be thinking much , just doing what comes natural , the march towards her almost gives off a sense of confidence he didn't have before
@@theelectricprince8231idk the ginger may be alive aswell, given how durable these guys are he may just walk off the crushed skull and severe brain damage.
Is nobody gonna talk about? How genuinely happy the viltrumite lady was When mark started given her them hands? Like I felt like any moments she was gonna say. "So this boy is a viltrumite after all."
Tbf the whole point is its a battle indoctrination, both Lucan and Thulla were holding back so that Mark could start properly fighting, thats why Thulla's hair knife just cuts non-vital spots on him until the end, its to bait him into fighting for real.
@@BitrateBillybullshit. They woulda killed that boy on the spot if not for omni-man. Viltrumites clearly dont give af about indoctrinating people since they murdered half the planet
“She” will show up again soon and then it will happen… (Also to clarify I’m not talking about the old person I’m talking about Anissa for anyone wondering)
Mark actually has a fighting style unlike most viltrumites, they are so powerful that don't require tecnique just brute force they're way in a fight, i think that's one of the reason Mark has the upperhand in this fight, that and because he is part human and is afraid to die, the adrenaline in his human part give him a huge buff while fighting.
Right, I think many of these viltrumites also don't have the same experience of fighting powerful foes that Mark does, so they've gotten complacent with simply overwhelming their enemies with brute force.
This is why i wished some superheroes trained to fight with technique instead of brute force. That is why i liked zoom and reverse flash. They could fight so their speed added to that.
I partially agree with you, though the Viltrumites seem to have this creepy karate-like fighting style. It allows them to unzip your innards, liberate your head from your shoulders and turn you into a donut, even if you have similar durability to their own. I mean, just look at what Omni-Man did to Lucan with his finger tips. The lady ... whose name I don't recall ... would need to have some fighting skill to control her braid blade. However, I agree that even if they have fighting styles, it's probably pretty sloppy compared to someone like Mark who has lots of recent experience with actual threats. You might know how to shatter bricks with a karate chop, but that doesn't mean you'll be able to do anything against a karate master in a real fight. They also seem to neglect blocks and dodges - high offense, little defense, except for tanking their way to victory, so I agree with you there. Ironically, Omni-Man telling Mark that he's invincible might have outlined a key flaw in his mindset. *The Viltrumites see themselves as invincible. Mark, despite his name, quickly learnt that he's not, so he fights like it.*
The combo Mark uses at 0:26 is almost the exact combo Nolan used to kill immortal in the other timeline at the start of the season. With the only difference being that Mark used a backhand fist instead of slicing her head off.
I love Nolan. He is really strong and seeing him fight to protect his son and a planet was really heartwarming. Hes definitely one of the strongest viltrumites out there.
In fact, he actually is one of the strongest, he is above-average, but Mark is on a whole another level, he's just too fricking strong, he's barely an adult and he can take on Viltrumites that are millenia old
This scene was so badass. It's nice to see Mark slowly come into his own instead of figuring things out all at once. If he didn't struggle, the story wouldn't be any fun to watch.
See that what bothered me - Viltrumites seem to be the result of evolution. In order for evolutionary selection to occur they must have cared for their offspring like humans do. So it was always in the cards for Nolan's empathy towards his own son to overcome Viltrumite idealogy. It is a more basal, stronger and a fundamental factor that is encrypted in his very core.
Man i geek out at this so much because up to this point marks either taking on enemies he effortlessly beats or is getting totally bodied by his enemy. But here the blocks, dodges and strikes at her were so fluid and clean. You never really get to see mark play the game like that and the comics cant really do it justice for a clean hand to hand combat animation thats done so well.
Love how in 0:48 they did their own rendition of the 2 page spread from Ryan Ottley in the comics where it just shows an all out slugfest of the viltrumites against Mark and Nolan. One of my favourite spreads in the comic.
A detail I like that shows Nolan is prepared for Viltrumites (and possibly learned to fight strategically while on earth) Nolan only targets their heads. The other vitrumites keep going for torso combos in order to have a long protracted fight. Nolan keeps his torso protected with armor, a vulnerability he exploited against Lucan. He isn't trying to battle them, He's trying to end them.
I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a “uh oh they’re about to die, somebody better save them at the last second” moment where a person just calls for help and actually gets it
Yes it should but that’s why this is unique if they do that I guess it will be a copy of kryptonians without heat visions and other ability. I mean you can’t even damage a kryptonian like this. I love how they made this fight so raw and honest
That's true but they don't regenerate instantly. They would need somebody to stop the bleeding, patch them up, etc. They're not gonna lay on the ground and fully recover by themselves from getting their skull caved in or their jaw removed...
@@GeekProdigyGuyI mean, they kinda do, depending on the situation. Mark got donuted by conquest and all he needed to regenerate was Nolan putiting his insides... inside again and bandaging him. Like, his spine was split in half and all he needed to recover was some bandages and a few weeks.
@@whiteshadow0122 literally the examples you gave fit my description exactly... like yeah he recovers from those injuries but they needed another person to do minimal first aid etc. if he hadn't gotten help he'd have bled out in the dirt.
Actually Mark could be the strongest viltrumite because he is from earth, therefore he uses different fighting techniques as seen in this battle, Viltrumites however don't fight like that, but rely mostly on physical force in battle, which can be easily evadable. Imagine a Viltrumite who knows martial arts.
Mark is strong and resilient af, he just lacks the malice to be actually brutal, not the strenght. Of course, being good is more important, but there's a thing or two to learn with his father in regards to combat
Mark has so many similarities to Gohan from DBZ. Doesn’t necessarily want to fight or hurt others, but moments of rage that’s gives him a massive power boost.
Wow show Mark is already boxing Viltrumites and is on even playing field, at this time in the comics he was basically fodder to them So I’m guessing they made Mark much much stronger now
It makes sense tho. He’s Nolan’s son, a high ranking soldier. Also it’s shown before this that mark is no pushover and fights like a boar, continuing despite potentially fatal injuries
Having long hair in a battle is like-- the worst disadvantage you can have 🤣🤣 especially in a long rope-like braid like that, once your opponent just grabs it, you're done. Worse than having a cape. I do think the blade is pretty cool though.
probably a blade made of Rognarr's claw. Hence the question I have been asking myself.... why don't viltrumites use weapons and armor made from Rognarr's claws?
@@mrwolf84 Who can say? Probably because those blades are just as dangerous to themselves as to their enemies. We see a considerably experienced viltrumite use it as a weapon, but no others here.
@@Ripplistic the fact that the coalition of planets does not know a way to kill viltrumites does not mean that there is none, as Nolan teaches us well: Battle Beast, The Ragnorr Space Racer
I loved the savage combat from nolan, and seeing mark actually Able to kill a standard viltrumite soldier is pretty impressive for his age given he’s a baby by their standards, too bad we have to wait until after new years probably
Honestly, I can’t believe that anyone except Nolan survived this. Vigor ( ginger guy) is for 99% dead, we know that to kill viltrumite you have to go for the head, the damage he sustained is lethal or will leave him in degenerated state. We haven’t seen such damage before. For the woman, as someone mentioned, big chances for her death is that she suffocated because of jaw breaking ( think it’s pretty clear, that suffocation is connected to damage to brain, so makes sense). Actually, black guy may survived, since there was no damage to head. And Nolan - oh he will recover, not a big deal.
The woman “Thula” is definitely alive. In the comics, she ends surviving till the very end of the series, and makes a moral change of heart the same way Omni-Man does.
An interesting point, but the only thing that will do is create some very tough bullets. It damages other Viltrumites because Viltrumites are very, very strong, not because it's some anti-viltrumite material, at least from what I know.
ça ne fonctionnera pas ils sont capables de voyager à la vitesse de la lumière, elle doit envoyer la lame de ses cheveux beaucoup plus vite qu'une balle de fusil il faudrait que la balle du canon soit tiré à la vitesse de la lumière (impossible) SPOILER ( il existe un canon laser capable de les tuer😅)
Honestly, it's no surprise Mark managed to get on even ground against them considering he got beat up by his Dad before and after 6 months he probably got trained to fight possible threats or in case other people like Nolan show up.
Their punches to each other (viltrumites fighting each other) sound like slamming metal. If this metal also somehow had very squishy sounding innards like a human as well. The metal sounding sounds are definitely because of how viltrumites have the insane durability I assume.
Hey sweet upload, I somehow saw this scene in 3 different uploads yesterday and they all cut off right after the "I'd say you fought well" remark without even finishing the sentence.
0:21 I like to think Mark purposely didnt hit first. He couldve easily hit her full force but he stopped. Maybe he wanted to give her a 2nd chance and hes still wanting to hold back. Probably not the intention of the animators/director but its a nice thought.
I prefer the comic version because it shows a montage of them fighting,then at the end it shows mark being beaten to a pulp,then his dad saving him right after. It shows how Mark is not ready to face off a real viltrumite
Seriously... How did this happen? Thula is a seasoned Viltrumite who was with intent to kill, who's thousands of years old and was there when Thragg got in power... Mark would have been killed in the first 10 seconds of that fight...
Okay can someone explain to me why Mark ( when Viltrumites which seem to be impervious to any damage from any weapon unless it’s another Viltrumite fighting) can be cut by a blade? Just because a Viltrumite is swinging it doesn’t make it a stronger material? If Mark is bullet proof why isn’t he knife proof?
@@alexokon5161 counter example. Omni man impales another viltrumite with a pointed rock. How is it that bullets made of metal travelling at 850+ mph will ping off of Omni man but a shattered rock being thrust at a Viltrumite at maybe 60mph can impale said Viltrumite purely by virtue of the rock being held by a Viltrumite. When a world in a narrative doesn’t obey its own rules then it complete breaks immersion and pulls you out of the experience.
The lady that Mark is fighting was one of the ones that they showed in the flashback of the purge on Viltrim who survived, which was a long time before even Omniman was born. She's not some pushover random Viltrimite, but a ridiculously strong warrior who survived a combat genocide essentially.
Whoa. Based on his previous fights, I'd never have thought that Mark could go toe-to-toe with a full-blooded Viltrumite. I was getting annoyed with the show for that exact reason, and it turns out he was just holding back.
The thing is, Mark is not the strongest character in Invincible. He never is. But what he is, is the most resilient. And this is because of two things. First, he has a better healing factor than any other Viltrumite that's ever been born. The second thing is a spoiler for later.
The fact that Mark after actually being serious can essentially win a fight against an older Viltrumite is really insane. Like if he didn’t hesitate right at the end he would have 100% killed her and won that fight
he's the legendary super viltrumite
@@jumnei5159this is NOT dragon ball, NO powerscaling
@@adamshachar5521 he WILL powerscale and you WILL accept it!
@@adamshachar5521tell that to Allen when he gets an Zenkai Boost
@@adamshachar5521oohh but you see, you are not dealing with the average viltrumite anymore
This moment makes me realize mark has been letting ppl beat him up cause he doesn’t want to kill them. Crazy.
I swear this was the first time I knew mark really holds back I thought he was just too inexperienced
Except for Battle Beast, he beat up Mark for real with no chance of fighting back
@@bence1830yeah but still if mark wasn't holding back he could have certainly put up a bit of a better fight than what he did.
@@alexcrockett5665battle beast is thragg level and mark was even more inexperienced, 10 mark clones couldn’t have won that fight
@@cheericoke2484who was thragg?
This goes to show how RESILIENT Mark is! When he was fighting his dad, he took quite the beating. Considering how the flashback shown the Viltrumites tearing through eachother like tissue paper and he lasted so long against veterans... I'm impressed
He’s a superhero
Nah Nolan was holding back then
No, he's invincible.
Nolan could have killed him in secs and conquer earth easily but his time with Debbie and Mark has made him human and now we know that.
@@timmahduudNo... he's-
**Title Card**
I like how in his moment of need Mark still called Omni-man Dad. There's still a bond there.
You should have seen when he hugged him. Blood is really thicker than water
-"Think mark, what will you have in 500 years?"
-"I'll still have you dad."
This should've been a clear indication of marks stance on nolan.
@@INFINITE-VERSUS_SHOWDOWNblood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. That's the original.
@@misturjosturr7658yeah i was gonna say even without a situation like that, i think id know blood is thicker than water lol. Thats not much confirmation
@@misturjosturr7658Relationships you make yourself is not stronger than that of the womb, and never is otherwise. However due to pain that blood can turn to water and be less than that relationships you have forged on your own, and that water you forged into blood through manefeststion.
Friends can be closer than family due to this pain in family relationships.
However, this wiccan saying was made to denote that you are more powerful than God and what he intended you can sever or make better, and what is forged by man is stronger than that which is forged from the beginning.
The big difference between the bible and the wiccan bible is one does not have ego nor rebellion as their core strength.
What makes this battle really cool is that Mark fights both like a human and a viltrumite. He uses human-like techniques but stops holding back for a moment. But he didn't suddenly become this OP insensitive murderer, it takes time to adjust to the warrior mentality so his second battle against a viltrumite is still a loss for him, just not as one-sided as before.
He’s a superhero
@@INFINITE-VERSUS_SHOWDOWN Mark is superhero for fun.
Honestly he technically won the 2nd fight. He literally defeated Thula but only "lost" (ie getting stabbed) cuz he couldn't bring himself to finish her
just imagine if he had mark learning martial arts growing up
He would have won and killing her wouldn’t make him a cold blooded killer since he killed her for self defense
It's pretty gross to think that the majority of Nolan's finishers don't actually kill the viltrumites, They just leave them in massive staggering pain until they heal lol.
It’s part of the show
Something called smart atoms, thulla’s also probably alive
Extreme violence is a major part of the show, really? I hadn’t noticed. Maybe they should make omni-man commit genocide against humanity a second time just to make it more obvious.
@@AliceSpages-fz4kc 🤦 You completely missed what he said, he’s saying that these injuries really just incapacitate viltrumites for a long time before they can get medical help, unlike humans. Please read comments first before replying
It’s been a while, so I might he misremembering, but Nolan does kill two Viltrumites in this fight. The only one that survives is Lucan, who was also beaten by Nolan and left for dead before sneak attacking him and immediately passing out.
Always makes you wonder how powerful a hero like Mark really can be when they really let lose
I never knew he always held back until that scene 💀
he's still holding back a lot
@INFINITE-VERSUS_SHOWDOWN IKR I've some heroes actually let loose and damn how is it that bad guys still wanna be villains
Omniman
You ever watch that episode of Justice League when Superman stops holding back and punches Darkside so hard, he flew have across town like he was a paper plane? imagine that.
It's crazy to think that mark who is 18, who only had his powers for about a year was able to physically overpower someone who has lived hundreds of years. He truly has the biggest potential out of all the viltrumites including thragg
He has *SPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILER* royal blood in him which contributes to his strength. It's why even though he was never bred for the purpose of combat and all, Nolan is still top three in terms of strength
thousands*
he has a thing viltrumites don't have, it's confirmed that pure viltrumites don't have adrenaline but since Mark's a hybrid, once he locks in, it's about to go down
@@gdmya Please watch where you're going
@@What_is_a_freaking_handle_bro hm? Not really going against u, just wanted to add something
Finally someone posted Mark not holding back, this was probably my favorite Mark moment out of the entire show so far.
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spiderman moment
Which is in turn completely ruined by him holding back again...
The fact that Mark is so young and fought like that against an older viltrumite just comes to show how powerful Mark really is and how much more powerful he will become.
Yes
He is part human and that changes much more things
@thanoskitsos5710 not really. Just his human morals and that was from being raised by Debbie. Human and viltrumite DNA are compatible because both races are almost anatomically exact... same vital organs, same skin pigments, same reproductive system, etc... only difference is Viltrumite cells evolved into something much greater after thousands of years of selective breeding... making them unbelievably strong, durable, and for some reason, it gives the ability of flight... it's probably safe to assume that in the beginning of Viltrumite civilization, they were not much different than normal humans. So... When a Human and Viltrumite reproduce, it's basically just making a Viltrumite...
Makes sense that mark was actually able to go toe to toe with another viltrumite, he survived a fight against his dad who's also strong amongst viltrumites and his dad trusted him to fight her on his own if he stopped holding back which shows that Nolan knew that mark was strong enough
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Also older vitrumites are stronger
Minor spoiler, Nolan is mid tier among the remaining Viltrumites.
@@SBabyno hes not.. The only viltramite that ever given trouble with Thragg and much later mark.
@@SBabyincorrect. He’s the third strongest after Conquest and Thragg, that until Mark becomes the strongest Viltrumite defeating Thragg
The conquest fight is going to be insane
Yeah
This season?
@@DzinkyDzinkI’m guessing next season. I think they’ll end this season with the Invincible War
@@howdydoodilly6812 Viltrumite War either happens at the end of this season, or the beginning of the next season. They might save that for later, given how big that is. I doubt they would do it all in one episode. If I remember, it's so fierce that it basically changes the landscape of Earth.
@@howdydoodilly6812 Or his fight with Angstrom Levy.
I love a show that doesn't hide from being brutal
It’s raw and honest
I mean, it's a show based on a brutal gory comic, so it's expected.
@@Iloveyou-dz7mq not really, at least not too this extent
@Jykobe491 My man, the brutality of this series is a big part of why the comics are so good and the show stays relatively true to the essence of the comics
@@Iloveyou-dz7mqIts not gory, its graphic
The comics and the show doesnt emphasis gore element at all when it isnt necessary unlike the Boys for exemple where everything is gory for no reasons
In Invincible, the gore onlu emphasis the extreme brutality situation. In s1 you have only 3 gore moment for exemple, the guardian, BattleBeast, and the final fight against Omni-man.
Flaxian genocide is kinda keep clean for exemple, you dont need to see gory element after the first head poping.
The Elbow to Thula's face caught me offguard so good, Invincible just has the most brutal fights and finishers in any media and I love it
Part of what I love in this sequence is that the people he's fighting are literally not psychologically capable of understanding what centers Mark and allows him to stand up to them.
1:40 Omni-man really said "GET OVER HERE".
FATALITY
I knew right from when I saw her I knew her long hair will be used against her at some point
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At this point he’s just bragging about being in Mortal Kombat.
@@KireaPhillips_superj0ka oh please don’t hit me with water 🙄
Gotta love the details in mark´s fighting, he is not just going brutal, he goes in cold blooded, lands some combos, blocks when needed, the fight may become more sluggish towards the end when it was switching between Mark and Omni-man´s scenes, but that start was just beautifull to see.
Fr 🔥🔥
Mark needs to learn martial arts viltrumites seem to tend to rely on their brute strength but imagine mark knowing how to fight like batman? Crazy.
I got so happy when Mark started to fight back.
Fr it was epic
The moment when his theme kicks in is HYPE.
I think some people are interpreting this as “Mark has always been holding back to not hurt people” and I don’t know if that’s accurate. He isn’t holding back on purpose, he’s overthinking. He’s so hard on himself and assumes everything he’s doing is wrong to the point where he’s limiting himself without realizing it. It’s when he finally shuts his brain off for a second and just acts that he realizes for the first time just how capable he is.
i can honestly see what you mean there , when he fights her for real he doesn't seem to be thinking much , just doing what comes natural , the march towards her almost gives off a sense of confidence he didn't have before
Nolan is brutal. Killed three viltrumites.
Nearly killed
2 of them are alive
@@theelectricprince8231 all three finishes were pretty brutal. Thragg will beat the fight out of mark and Nolan fast.
@@theelectricprince8231idk the ginger may be alive aswell, given how durable these guys are he may just walk off the crushed skull and severe brain damage.
@@Crussman499not after eve rebuilds mark stronger. Mark is the strongest viltrumite by far in the end
Is nobody gonna talk about? How genuinely happy the viltrumite lady was When mark started given her them hands? Like I felt like any moments she was gonna say. "So this boy is a viltrumite after all."
Tbf the whole point is its a battle indoctrination, both Lucan and Thulla were holding back so that Mark could start properly fighting, thats why Thulla's hair knife just cuts non-vital spots on him until the end, its to bait him into fighting for real.
@@BitrateBillybullshit. They woulda killed that boy on the spot if not for omni-man. Viltrumites clearly dont give af about indoctrinating people since they murdered half the planet
Kinda creepy to be honest and I’m really hoping she isn’t who I think she will be one day
@@matthewcastro2230 Anissa? Nah, I think she'll show up later.
“She” will show up again soon and then it will happen…
(Also to clarify I’m not talking about the old person I’m talking about Anissa for anyone wondering)
0:53 like father like son 😂
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1:44 now thats what i call, a jaw breaking moment
Fr it’s masterpiece
the amount of brutality was jaw dropping
Guess he gave her a jawbreaker😂
my jaw dropped while watching this scene
He sounds so.... disgusted and borderline annoyed at having to deal with her that way
Mark actually has a fighting style unlike most viltrumites, they are so powerful that don't require tecnique just brute force they're way in a fight, i think that's one of the reason Mark has the upperhand in this fight, that and because he is part human and is afraid to die, the adrenaline in his human part give him a huge buff while fighting.
Right, I think many of these viltrumites also don't have the same experience of fighting powerful foes that Mark does, so they've gotten complacent with simply overwhelming their enemies with brute force.
This is why i wished some superheroes trained to fight with technique instead of brute force. That is why i liked zoom and reverse flash. They could fight so their speed added to that.
anime should be banned
You are going to see later at least some viltrumites do train
I partially agree with you, though the Viltrumites seem to have this creepy karate-like fighting style. It allows them to unzip your innards, liberate your head from your shoulders and turn you into a donut, even if you have similar durability to their own. I mean, just look at what Omni-Man did to Lucan with his finger tips. The lady ... whose name I don't recall ... would need to have some fighting skill to control her braid blade.
However, I agree that even if they have fighting styles, it's probably pretty sloppy compared to someone like Mark who has lots of recent experience with actual threats. You might know how to shatter bricks with a karate chop, but that doesn't mean you'll be able to do anything against a karate master in a real fight. They also seem to neglect blocks and dodges - high offense, little defense, except for tanking their way to victory, so I agree with you there.
Ironically, Omni-Man telling Mark that he's invincible might have outlined a key flaw in his mindset. *The Viltrumites see themselves as invincible. Mark, despite his name, quickly learnt that he's not, so he fights like it.*
The combo Mark uses at 0:26 is almost the exact combo Nolan used to kill immortal in the other timeline at the start of the season. With the only difference being that Mark used a backhand fist instead of slicing her head off.
He hit her with the ol' jawbreaker move, classic
I like how the thumbnail is literally him holding back
I love Nolan. He is really strong and seeing him fight to protect his son and a planet was really heartwarming. Hes definitely one of the strongest viltrumites out there.
In fact, he actually is one of the strongest, he is above-average, but Mark is on a whole another level, he's just too fricking strong, he's barely an adult and he can take on Viltrumites that are millenia old
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yay happy for u pal
and left a dislike for you too bud. @@enavihz
It took a moment of hesitation to lose the fight. Impressive shift, but Mark is still mark. This is the first time he stopped holding back.
It was 🔥🔥🔥
Small letter mark
0:25...that combo, finishing with the backhander, was so Viltrumite
This season finale is going to be crazy, and s3 will break the internet
Fr
This scene was so badass. It's nice to see Mark slowly come into his own instead of figuring things out all at once. If he didn't struggle, the story wouldn't be any fun to watch.
See that's why you never mess with a man's family even if Omni-nan does not admit it he cares deeply for his family
Ofc
@@INFINITE-VERSUS_SHOWDOWN and it doesn't matter how evil a Villan is even they have one's they are willing to protect with their lives
See that what bothered me - Viltrumites seem to be the result of evolution.
In order for evolutionary selection to occur they must have cared for their offspring like humans do.
So it was always in the cards for Nolan's empathy towards his own son to overcome Viltrumite idealogy. It is a more basal, stronger and a fundamental factor that is encrypted in his very core.
@DzinkyDzink we can se what Nolan can do when hebfaced the guardias and Cecilcontingency plans, he was holding back vs mark.
@@serisbloodsoul896 Well unless the villain is an actual person in real life, then we get to the truly ugly side of the story.
Man i geek out at this so much because up to this point marks either taking on enemies he effortlessly beats or is getting totally bodied by his enemy. But here the blocks, dodges and strikes at her were so fluid and clean. You never really get to see mark play the game like that and the comics cant really do it justice for a clean hand to hand combat animation thats done so well.
Fr
That combo on 0:24 was slick, got me screaming in my killer instinct voice
"ULTRA COMBOOOOOOO"
same combo Nolan used in killing Immortal but Mark is still holding back and didn't go for the kill
Love how in 0:48 they did their own rendition of the 2 page spread from Ryan Ottley in the comics where it just shows an all out slugfest of the viltrumites against Mark and Nolan. One of my favourite spreads in the comic.
When he fights serious, it’s almost like he’s technical with the way he throws his punches and how he dodges attacks, huge improvement.
guess you could say that's a.... *jaw dropping moment?*
😂😂😂😂😂
Man. 0:22 - 0:28 is probably my favorite combat sequence in the whole show so far. It was just SO SMOOTH
The soundtrack is beautiful
Damn I really like the soundtrack that comes up when mark starts fighting back, hope it's a recurring theme!
😏
A detail I like that shows Nolan is prepared for Viltrumites (and possibly learned to fight strategically while on earth) Nolan only targets their heads. The other vitrumites keep going for torso combos in order to have a long protracted fight. Nolan keeps his torso protected with armor, a vulnerability he exploited against Lucan. He isn't trying to battle them, He's trying to end them.
I can't wait for Conquest to pull up. 😂
Thraggg 💀🔥
Mark decided to become the boss fight instead of being in one, you love to see it.
*Omniman* : lock tf in.
*Mark* : Ight fine….
I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a “uh oh they’re about to die, somebody better save them at the last second” moment where a person just calls for help and actually gets it
Viltrumite DNA should allow them to recover from mortal wounds that would seem impossible for humans.
Yes it should but that’s why this is unique if they do that I guess it will be a copy of kryptonians without heat visions and other ability. I mean you can’t even damage a kryptonian like this. I love how they made this fight so raw and honest
That's true but they don't regenerate instantly. They would need somebody to stop the bleeding, patch them up, etc. They're not gonna lay on the ground and fully recover by themselves from getting their skull caved in or their jaw removed...
@@GeekProdigyGuyI mean, they kinda do, depending on the situation. Mark got donuted by conquest and all he needed to regenerate was Nolan putiting his insides... inside again and bandaging him.
Like, his spine was split in half and all he needed to recover was some bandages and a few weeks.
@@GeekProdigyGuynot true most of the time
@@whiteshadow0122 literally the examples you gave fit my description exactly... like yeah he recovers from those injuries but they needed another person to do minimal first aid etc. if he hadn't gotten help he'd have bled out in the dirt.
I got hyped when Mark’s theme started playing in the background
Lol
Actually Mark could be the strongest viltrumite because he is from earth, therefore he uses different fighting techniques as seen in this battle, Viltrumites however don't fight like that, but rely mostly on physical force in battle, which can be easily evadable. Imagine a Viltrumite who knows martial arts.
Mark is strong and resilient af, he just lacks the malice to be actually brutal, not the strenght. Of course, being good is more important, but there's a thing or two to learn with his father in regards to combat
that rage scream in 0:20 ufff i love it
Omni man punching and splitting that guy's skull. Holy shit. Then the krushing blow on home girl was insane
😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥
Mark has so many similarities to Gohan from DBZ. Doesn’t necessarily want to fight or hurt others, but moments of rage that’s gives him a massive power boost.
adrenaline
Grey Delisle is still in fine form in her performance as Thula. Love hearing her voice a sadistic villain again.
Fits perfectly
0:40 Damn, that bakery is full enough to feed an entire village.
What do y’all mean by this
Omni man keeps on giving nether realm new brutalities 😭
Lol 😂
Wow show Mark is already boxing Viltrumites and is on even playing field, at this time in the comics he was basically fodder to them
So I’m guessing they made Mark much much stronger now
Yes
It makes sense tho. He’s Nolan’s son, a high ranking soldier. Also it’s shown before this that mark is no pushover and fights like a boar, continuing despite potentially fatal injuries
I'm thinking they might change the fight against Thragg a bit so that Mark can get some hits in.
0:19 that was clean
0:18 That bgm was spot on. I am super excited for upcoming episodes .
0:52 Omniman vs Darkwing moment.
😂😂😂
Having long hair in a battle is like-- the worst disadvantage you can have 🤣🤣 especially in a long rope-like braid like that, once your opponent just grabs it, you're done. Worse than having a cape. I do think the blade is pretty cool though.
So true! I knew it would be used against her once I saw for the first time in the show even cape too is a disadvantage
probably a blade made of Rognarr's claw.
Hence the question I have been asking myself....
why don't viltrumites use weapons and armor made from Rognarr's claws?
@@mrwolf84No one can stop them anyways why would they need that?
@@mrwolf84 Who can say? Probably because those blades are just as dangerous to themselves as to their enemies. We see a considerably experienced viltrumite use it as a weapon, but no others here.
@@Ripplistic the fact that the coalition of planets does not know a way to kill viltrumites does not mean that there is none, as Nolan teaches us well:
Battle Beast,
The Ragnorr
Space Racer
He was piecing her up for a good few minutes tho. He needs to keep it up 🤦🏿♂️
Give him till the finale.
No spoilers but bro’s determination at that moment is… invincible.
@@NexusKirinlet's say he conquered the stars, at least 1
Wished he continued
Give him time he'll get more brutal after his encounter with Freddie Mercury ......
@@serhanadem3683😂😂😂😭😭
Season 1: Think, Mark!
Season 2: Don't think! Act!
JoJo: He eventually stopped thinking
you know my favourite part about this fight? it's not completely one sided and shows both sides laying into each other.
1:45 *FATALITY!*
🔥🔥
Damn... can't wait for Conquest
Yeah
I just love how creative Omni-man is.
Experience!
NEXT TIME ON DRAGON--- oh wait wrong one
😏
I loved the savage combat from nolan, and seeing mark actually Able to kill a standard viltrumite soldier is pretty impressive for his age given he’s a baby by their standards, too bad we have to wait until after new years probably
I pretty sure Thula isn’t a standard Viltrumite soldier. She is a elder who survived the Great Purge so, that makes Mark more impressive.
I absolutely love when the Invincible theme kicks in. Chills
We need more moments like this with Invincible and Spider-Man
Honestly, I can’t believe that anyone except Nolan survived this. Vigor ( ginger guy) is for 99% dead, we know that to kill viltrumite you have to go for the head, the damage he sustained is lethal or will leave him in degenerated state. We haven’t seen such damage before. For the woman, as someone mentioned, big chances for her death is that she suffocated because of jaw breaking ( think it’s pretty clear, that suffocation is connected to damage to brain, so makes sense). Actually, black guy may survived, since there was no damage to head. And Nolan - oh he will recover, not a big deal.
Lucan was worse 😂😂
You also need to damage the heart
The woman “Thula” is definitely alive. In the comics, she ends surviving till the very end of the series, and makes a moral change of heart the same way Omni-Man does.
If you've read the comics, you'd know that Conquest survived having his head getting smashed.
@@KnyteMan I never checked comics so… thx for info. So according to comics, who died here ?
Mark has that Gohan in him
This ain’t dragon ball dude 😏🤣
@@INFINITE-VERSUS_SHOWDOWNit is now, and you can’t stop us 😈
@@basimali619 🌝
35 and the only time i call “Dad” is when I need it. Just like this he has never let me down.
That lady was going wing chun or something on him and Mark absolutely deflected every swing like a master.
That fight was brutal, but awesome ❤🎉
Awesome
They really need to make bullets out of whatever that hair blade is made of.
Lol 😂
An interesting point, but the only thing that will do is create some very tough bullets. It damages other Viltrumites because Viltrumites are very, very strong, not because it's some anti-viltrumite material, at least from what I know.
it is probably made of Rognarr's claw
What is a Rognarr?
Nolan: well son, it's something called "read my fucking books"!
ça ne fonctionnera pas
ils sont capables de voyager à la vitesse de la lumière, elle doit envoyer la lame de ses cheveux beaucoup plus vite qu'une balle de fusil
il faudrait que la balle du canon soit tiré à la vitesse de la lumière (impossible)
SPOILER
( il existe un canon laser capable de les tuer😅)
Bro the elbow to the jaw 💀 most brutal thing I’ve seen
Fr
Went from "I will burn this planet to the ground" to " Do you regret attacking my family now!? DO YOU!? "
Honestly, it's no surprise Mark managed to get on even ground against them considering he got beat up by his Dad before and after 6 months he probably got trained to fight possible threats or in case other people like Nolan show up.
Trained? By whom
@@INFINITE-VERSUS_SHOWDOWN Cecil and the guardians of the globe
Was it ever explained what Thula's hair knife is made out of? because it's strong enough to hurt viltrumites
Their punches to each other (viltrumites fighting each other) sound like slamming metal. If this metal also somehow had very squishy sounding innards like a human as well. The metal sounding sounds are definitely because of how viltrumites have the insane durability I assume.
Hey sweet upload, I somehow saw this scene in 3 different uploads yesterday and they all cut off right after the "I'd say you fought well" remark without even finishing the sentence.
0:21 I like to think Mark purposely didnt hit first. He couldve easily hit her full force but he stopped. Maybe he wanted to give her a 2nd chance and hes still wanting to hold back. Probably not the intention of the animators/director but its a nice thought.
Yeah
I prefer the comic version because it shows a montage of them fighting,then at the end it shows mark being beaten to a pulp,then his dad saving him right after. It shows how Mark is not ready to face off a real viltrumite
I'm more in love with the fact Mark's fighting style, is the same as his Dad's after he cuts loose.
That fight music be going full anime tho
Seriously... How did this happen? Thula is a seasoned Viltrumite who was with intent to kill, who's thousands of years old and was there when Thragg got in power...
Mark would have been killed in the first 10 seconds of that fight...
It’s called plot armor 😂😂
He is the MC after all.
I think they Nerfed Thula to make this fight play out in Marks favor. The original fight Mark was losing badly.
Okay can someone explain to me why Mark ( when Viltrumites which seem to be impervious to any damage from any weapon unless it’s another Viltrumite fighting) can be cut by a blade? Just because a Viltrumite is swinging it doesn’t make it a stronger material? If Mark is bullet proof why isn’t he knife proof?
Maybe it's the equivalent of adamantium?
@@alexokon5161 counter example. Omni man impales another viltrumite with a pointed rock.
How is it that bullets made of metal travelling at 850+ mph will ping off of Omni man but a shattered rock being thrust at a Viltrumite at maybe 60mph can impale said Viltrumite purely by virtue of the rock being held by a Viltrumite.
When a world in a narrative doesn’t obey its own rules then it complete breaks immersion and pulls you out of the experience.
The lady that Mark is fighting was one of the ones that they showed in the flashback of the purge on Viltrim who survived, which was a long time before even Omniman was born. She's not some pushover random Viltrimite, but a ridiculously strong warrior who survived a combat genocide essentially.
In the comics Mark was just getting folded but the show at least showed that he’s more capable when he doesn’t hold back
That's because in the comics they wanted to show how weak Mark is as a half viltrumite, this is why I like the Animated Series more than a comics
Whoa. Based on his previous fights, I'd never have thought that Mark could go toe-to-toe with a full-blooded Viltrumite. I was getting annoyed with the show for that exact reason, and it turns out he was just holding back.
I swear I was amazed when he actually let lose
Why are you acting like he wasn't getting smacked around in the comics?
@@SB38506 Haven’t really read those.
@@Mystrohan I see then I get where you are coming from
More like "Mark stops holding back, kind of"
Lol
Hes always been Invincible,hes just learning it still
Mark stops holding back, and then proceeds holding back.
If Mark really wanted it, he could've strangled her with her braid right there. Long hair is bad in fights.
Yes but he’s a good guy it’s against his code
he still didnt kill
He should’ve
Because he's soft, unlike most of his alternative universe versions. And a strict superhero, which won't or aren't supposed to kill.
Cuz that nigga soft af
@@UnwantedGhost1-anz25after 2nd fight with conquest, he kinda went with “I’ll try not to kill if it Not necessary afterwards”
That’s self control 🧘♀️
The jaw scene omg amazing
Viltrumites : Hurt Mark
Omni Man : Instant Kill Engaged
😂😂
The thing is, Mark is not the strongest character in Invincible. He never is. But what he is, is the most resilient. And this is because of two things. First, he has a better healing factor than any other Viltrumite that's ever been born. The second thing is a spoiler for later.
1:11, nope... still holding back
He let go for a moment
@@INFINITE-VERSUS_SHOWDOWN man, that was all she needed... damn
@@jackieboib I swr I never knew mark usually holds back I thought he wasn’t just an experienced as the rest of his viltrumites race
@@INFINITE-VERSUS_SHOWDOWN tbf he is still a teenager going up against 1000 yo beings