Two Weeks with My INEOS Grenadier: Pros and Cons
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Greetings! After two weeks with my INEOS Grenadier, I'm taking it for a drive to share my real-world experience. We'll cover everything from the unique steering feel to its handling on rough roads, plus a few minor issues I've encountered. Join me as I discuss:
* Steering and turning radius quirks
* Comfort on bumpy city streets
* The solid build and surprising quietness
* Small flaws and potential fixes
* Real-world driving impressions and more!
Whether you're considering buying a Grenadier or just curious about its performance, this video gives you an honest look at what it's like to live with this rugged vehicle.
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“Don’t keep looking for problems that might not be there” I like that. A beautiful video. Thank you
Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated.
San Diegan here. You're right, our potholes are "phenomenally bad"! Thanks for this informative video. You touched on most all my concerns. Ordered mine about 4 months ago and lately have been "on the fence". You've helped ease my mind and I'm gonna go forward with this "Happy" rig.
Thanks for your comment. I was a little nervous, but feel like I'm in good hands with this dealer. They're a small group, so you'll get to know them personally - which just adds to the experience.
First, have had mine since March. LOVE it. I love the key. An actual key. Here is a tip, put your index finger along the key (like your pointing) and you will find the key hole nearly every time. Almost like tac reloading a pistol. Works.
Thanks for your comment! I love the key idea and will give this a shot. I was a step away from getting a car that had a digital key that I could unlock with my Apple Watch - I love having one less thing to lose... but alas, not gonna see that any time soon on a Grenadier!
I have owned my Grenadier for 3 months now and have 3500 miles on it. Been on longer trips on the freeway up the coast and off road twice. Off road is just floats over everything as it knows it was born to do so. It's also great for long on road trips. Around town below 35 miles per hour it feels a bit more like a truck than an SUV. The reviewer nailed it at the end when he says the few quirks are actually part of it's DNA and makes it feel authentic. Never had a vehicle with this much character that makes me smile so much except perhaps for my very first vehicle, a 1957 VW Van. Jump on in the waters fine, oh by the way it can wade 31.5" through streams and lakes effortlessly. DaBull
Thanks for your comments! There are a lot of curious folks just learning about the Grenadier and hearing from other owners on impressions and driving feel is appreciated. I can only wish that I once owned a VW van - I always wanted the Camper Van that they made in the 70's...
Hi Josh. I’m glad you’re enjoying your Grenadier. I’ve got over 22,000km on mine now, with no problems at all (other than very minor things that the dealer sorted out straight away).
Thanks for your comment. I believe that a lot of my viewers will appreciate hearing this!
Excellent!!! Thank you for sharing your experience. I think it’s an incredible piece of machinery. Not many cars have this character. I’m sure INEOS will work out these small bugs. Nothing to worry about. 👍
Thanks for your comment! I'm very happy so far and the more I drive it, the better I feel about it.
Thanks, Josh! Super helpful. Mine is in production, so hopefully I'm getting close.
Great to hear and thanks for your comments.
This does evoke "Happy" for sure. I'm a Jeep Wrangler owner (2) and give it this wave when I see it. It's like a welcome to the family. Never to a Bronco or Cyber truck.
Thanks for your comment. Jeeps are cool (never had one), but it is a bit like joining a family.
Very good video, very reassuring. Thank you.
Thanks!
I just reached 1000 miles on mine and I love it. On the issue of the turning radius, I noticed that you can turn the steering wheel more than you would normally would in a different vehicle, once I started doing this, the turning radius is great. Try it out. You can do almost three and a half total revolutions on the steering wheel.
If you’re on the fence, pull the trigger, you won’t regret it.
Thanks for your comment. I appreciate those who already have Grenadier's chiming in on their experience as that is at the top of mind for many who are just discovering it. I plan to test out your turning radius advice - thanks for that!
Nice review!
Thank you.
Over 11,000 miles on mine in Iowa. No issues. Really love it. I just tune out the speed warning tsk-tsk.😊
Wow - that's a lot of driving! Thanks for commenting - I know others watching are interested to hear this.
Nice car Thank you ❤
Thanks!
overspeed warnings become mandatory in EU, UK and other European countries this month. They have to default to on at start up. They also apply to any unsold models being sold through dealers. So, MY23.5 that didn't have it and hadn't sold has to be retrofitted before it can be sold. Most vehicles for the last 6 months have had it auto-on. For the last 10-20 years, vehicles had it defaulted to off. That isn't allowed any more (in Europe).
Thanks for this comment! I knew that there were reasons behind the overspeed warning, but was unsure as to where they were coming from. The ADAS features are standard equipment in the U.S., so unavoidable. Thank you for filling in some of the blanks!
I’m one year into mine over in the UK, thankfully the early cars didn’t have the mandatory speed auto warning that they now come with . Saying that I do actually set mine @ 70mph so it bleeps if I speed on the motorway .
After the big software update just after Christmas absolutely no faults what so ever .
Mpg on my diesel is climbing and last 45 mile trip averages 27.4 uk mpg.
Thanks for your comment. I just heard that we are due for a software update next month, and I hope it resolves things that I can tell are software related - but annoying nonetheless. I agree with your one speed warning setting (here in California we generally set them to 80) but I'm a little less inclined to drive that fast in my Grenadier...at least not yet!
A neatly put together video.
Independent Front Suspension equipped vehicles have a better turning radius. This has a solid front axle.
There may be a way to slightly adjust the camber on the front wheels that could aid in the return-to-center.
Says no one. My 1986 k10 can make a u turn like a modern BMW with a Dana 60 axle.
Thanks for your comment. I appreciate hearing things like this. Other viewers do too!
Thanks for commenting. The more I drive it, the more normal it gets - it's that initial surprise that seems to catch everyone. So, for me the return to center isn't really an issue. Just wish it had a little tighter turning circle!
Great video! I have a 2016 Land Rover LR4 with air suspension and love it. Do you miss having air suspension with your Grenadier? Like do you wish it had air suspension?
Thanks for commenting. I do miss the air suspension and frankly used it a lot when I was sitting in traffic as it gave me that extra boost to see past the car in front of me! Only my first Range Rover ('95) had regular issues with it needing repair, but subsequent models I owned never had issue. The Grenadier feels so much like my old Land Rovers - so I do miss it, but I think the clearance is actually pretty good as-is.
Funny, it looks like you live and drive in downtown San Diego. I go there often and when I test drove a Grenadier, the turning circle and the rear visibility had me thinking that it would be a nightmare trying to navigate the inner city. I don’t mind the steering feel at all, but yeah I thought parallel parking (and even tight parking lots) and the narrow roads would be tough. Seems like you are ok with it, very curious on your honest learning curve with that part of the car’s livability.
Hello! - Yes, downtown San Diego. I'm slowly getting used to driving something big again, and now find myself looking at the garage clearance signs...even if I'm on foot!
The misreading altimeter is strange. Is your compass also displaying erroneous info? Thanks
I had a chat with my dealer service manager since posting this video, and the incorrect info is coming from the head unit which the compass is connected to. Apparently there is an issue that INEOS is aware of and a fix is in progress. Thanks for commenting!
What's your gas mileage so far?
I topped the tank off at my first opportunity so that I could begin to measure this, but haven't finished up my first tank of gas yet! My computer currently says that I am averaging 15.1mpg, but I'll be tracking and reporting on this after I get a few miles on the clock. Thanks for asking!
Dunno man.. 150miles doesn’t seems like an enough of a ownership experience
I agree with you - at 150 miles, I'm just starting out with things I discovered since day one. I plan on updating these videos every few weeks or if/when something major occurs. Thanks for watching.
May I ask who is your dealer?
My dealer is Mossy INEOS in San Diego. Great sales and service experience so far.
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Thanks for commenting!
OMG a car you actually have to drive......
LOL - good point! Thanks for commenting.
So much bias here. Does he even read about what bias is? lol. 5+ issues at essentially 0 miles. No biggie. It’ll be great for the next 100k miles! 🎉 right? Lmao
Thanks for your comment. All points of view are welcome and of course, I have bias or I wouldn't have taken the gamble on the Grenadier. Your point on essentially 0 miles is spot on, but I had a Range Rover that lasted 24 miles before it had to be bought back by the dealer, so my video is mainly to say it as I see it from day one - with few miles on the clock. I'm not the type to put 100K miles on a car, but I do hang onto the ones that I like - so let's see if my 'like" for the Grenadier lasts long term...
I drove one, and it feels like a knock-off from the get go.
The amount of pretentiousness in the console marks it as a Chelsea Tractor.
Thanks for your comment. I see your point of view, but am thinking that it's a few years before it will be refined enough to be popular with the Chelsea Tractor crowd - it drives more like a truck than a modern Landie.
@@MyAutomobileObsession To me it felt like my 1991 300 Tdi HCPU. much lighter brakes and clutch, but certainly 20 years behind the competition.
And the price point is pants, to me it's for the crowd that can afford to have 4 other cars to actually use.
I’m debating on ordering a 2025 Grenadier or picking up a 2024 model. My local dealer has 22 to choose from.
The Grenadier was designed for a 25-year life span. It uses the bulletproof BMW B58 inline 6 engine paired to the bulletproof ZF transmission. Look at the undercarriage and you will find HD driveline components befitting a 3/4 - 1 ton pickup truck. The Grenadier uses HD Carraro tractor axles.
Thanks for commenting. I believe the 2025 will be substantially similar to the 2024 - perhaps a few more kinks worked out, but no major changes for at least another year. The 2024 will likely cost you less (INEOS just took a price increase that will impact 2025, not sure about 2024's), but as you mentioned this is a long term buy, so don't take one off the lot unless it has everything on it that you desire (color/options). The wait isn't going to be as bad as for those waiting for the original batch, and it will give you some time to plan and dream of all the things you will do with it once it arrives. I don't see you going wrong with either. Good Luck!