Lol, that fat biker is Roy Kranz. Multi time winner of Unbound 200. He would win on this day as well. He has some videos of his own. You should check them out.
Awesome video to do an indoor bike trainer ride (while it's sleeting outside!). I thought it was a trope, but jeez Kansas is FLAT! Keeps these videos coming, they are well done and NEVER buffer while I'm watching.
Thank you. Although it may seem “flat” in the video. I assure you, there are many hills. Nothing big, but 10k elevation gain over 200 miles. Thanks for the message.
Great job Todd. I remember racing against you in OTH and Big Bear/Kenda Cup in SoCal several years ago. I've gotten slower and you've gotten insanely better since.
Haha, glad you liked it. Last year before I went to Unbound I scoured CZcams looking for videos of the course. Binge watching before I went to the race.
wow, awesome video! (and awesome time!!) def gonna put this on while on the trainer next time. I should bring the gopro next year, missed the sun by a little but made the midnight club. gonna try again I think.
Hey Todd, Thanks for this video. Very informative. Did you train mostly on gravel or pavement? I’d like to get in for 2023 but am hesitant because I have to travel for decent gravel, I’m in Philadelphia. Pavement is easy for me to train on. Just curious. Thanks, Jim
Thanks Jim! I would say I trained mostly on the road bike. I do have dirt roads close to home, but they involve quite a bit of climbing. So, most of my really long rides were mostly on tarmac. Unbound doesn’t require any technical skills mostly. Long straight roads for the most part. I would do a lot of long rides on your gravel bike though, road or gravel, just to make sure you’re comfortable for all those hours in the saddle. Hopefully you get in, definitely worth the trip!
I was watching this while riding indoors and looked up your result compared to mine and saw that we had crossed paths around mile 115. Kept watching and sure enough I'm at 1:00:15 standing on the side of the road in the orange jersey taking a leak 😂😂
Lol, that's so funny! I wish I could have captured you smashing it up a hill. It's crazy that I remember so many of the riders in this video. Some I see at the very beginning and then at the very end. How we can be so close over 200 miles. Looking forward to another 200 this year.
I’m looking for a good entry level gravel bike now (Everybody is, right??). I’m a roadie, selling my MTB stuff. Suggestions? Looking at the Trek Checkpoint ALR 6 at the moment. Seems to be a good bang for the buck. Don’t want to beat up a carbon frame on gravel just yet. In Florida so quite flat here.
Kevin, there are so many good bikes out there, Trek is one as well. I have a Specialized Diverge myself. The one thing I would recommend is a bike with enough tire clearance. My Diverge only fits 42 tires max. Went with 38’s @ Unbound and had issues with mud. I would pick a bike that would fit 47 tires so you have the comfort with the big tires but can go smaller when you need the clearance for mud.
Thanks Kevin, Hero 10 mounted below my stem, had a cable going from the GoPro into a small frame bag into an external battery. I set the GoPro to shut off after 5 minutes. When I was testing it, I would always forget to turn it off and I could never remember if it was on or off. Lol . So I could just turn it on and go about my business without worry knowing it would shut itself off. I had plenty of battery life left at the end. I recorded an hour and 55 minutes. Probably could of recorded 3 or 4 hours.
@@thunsak06- I like that idea. I'm using a Hero 8 in front and a Hero 7 in back. I'm not sure if either of those are adapted for external power. I'll have a closer look. Yes, I know what you mean about not being sure if the camera is on or off at times. I love the sky in your video with the clouds. That always seems to look more interesting than a clear blue sky. It's especially cool (I find) when recording time-lapse segments. Again, nice work with the video and your race result! 🥂
Thanks hrtenk15. I was originally going to run IRC boken plus in 42's. But with the rain and mud I had to scramble to find a smaller tire for clearance. I ended up running the Panaracer Gravel King semi slick in a 38. Still didn't have enough clearance. But the tire did hold up to the Flint rock.
@@thunsak06 thanks Todd. I’m lucky to get in for the unbound gravel 200 this year and in the hunt for a good tires that can tackle the flint hills. It will be my 1st unbound.
Great video. I've been slacking the past year on training, but now I think I've gotten the proper motivation again (plus I finally got my gravel bike that I ordered in Nov 2020). How many road miles were there (approx) this year? What tires did you go with? I see a lot of Pathfinder Pros in this video - I normally run Rene Herse 42mm knobbies, but kinda want to try something else.
Dana, not many road miles. Only 5 to 6 miles tops I’d say. Unbound is all dirt. Great event and highly recommend if you get the chance. This year I ran the Panaracer gravel kings (the file tread slicks) in a 38. Only because I had to scramble to find a narrower tire due to the mud. Not a big selection in town. Was going to run IRC boken plus in a 42, which is the biggest my bike would fit. But weather forced me to change. I ran the pathfinder pro’s the year before and got a sidewall slash. I think a lot of people run them because they were the winning tire the previous 2 years. I recommend the toughest tire in the biggest size that will fit your bike.
@@thunsak06 Awesome and thanks, for some reason I thought there was a lot more road miles. In that case, I'll probably try the Rene Herse Oracle Ridge tires (48mm), that'll give me more float/comfort. You race against Paul Cha/Patrick Bos over in SoCal? I used to live in Santa Clarita and would ride with that group.
hi todd, this looks like a good test of stamina, and thankyou for sharing the `fun` i`m curious about the average speed over the course ,or do you even bother to record stats for this event ? 😎👍
Thank you William, I do ride with a Garmin and record all the data from the ride. My average speed over the 200 miles was 16 mph. I made 2 pit stops that both took about 3 minutes each. There was also 2 muddy sections about a mile or 2 long that required some hiking. Otherwise on the gas for over 12 hours.
@@thunsak06 thanks todd, thats a fine pace in those conditions, chapau! i`m just watching the last half hour now, and the muddy sections, i`ve had a few miles in the saddle over a lifetime so i sincerely appreciate the effort you put in ,i`ve competed in track cyclocross timetrials road racing and uncountable training miles at amateur/club level here in old blighty, there`s nothing to compare with it for all round fitness,👍😊
Thank you! This race I was on 38’s only because of the mud we experienced during the day. I would much prefer a larger tire volume for this event when it’s dry. 45mm or larger.
Hi Bob, last year I was using scratch super fuel 85 grams per bottle. Scratch hydration in pack with about 20 grams per hour. Then using a mix of sis gels an a few solid energy bars. Only ate solids once every 3 hours just to help settle the tummy a bit. It takes time to train your gut to take on so much sugar for so long, but it’s necessary for these long events.
Thanks! I really ramped up my time on the bike in the 2 to 3 months before the race. The last month I was doing long 6+ hours rides back to back to back. 3 days in a row on weekends. Also, practicing fueling with 100 grams of carbs an hour takes some time to adapt to.
Specialized Diverge with sram force group set. Explorer 12 speed cassette. 42 chain ring. Was going to run IRC boken plus in a 42mm. But the weather forced me to scramble and find a narrower tire. Ended up with the panaracer gravelking ss+ in a 38mm. Still didn’t have enough clearance in the mud. I carried 2 bottles with 85 grams of carbs and electrolytes and a uswe 2 liter pack. 20 grams an hour of carbs and electrolytes. After the 2 bottles were done I was carrying assorted gels and bars to supplement and get to 100 grams of carbs an hour. Stopped 2 times. Eureka and Madison. Picked up the same fuel and nutrition in Eureka to get to Madison. In Madison I grabbed 3 bottles all carbs and electrolytes and some caffeine gels. Worked out perfectly.
I had a Hero 10 mounted on the front of my stem and handle bars. Had it set to turn off after 5 minutes. So I would just hit the start button and it would record an automatically shut off after 5 minutes. Otherwise, I could never remember if it was recording or not. I also had an external battery pack in a frame bag with the wire going up to the GoPro. Otherwise the normal battery would only last about 50 minutes.
Thank you. I averaged 16 mph with an elapsed time of 12 hours 38 minutes. Moving time was probably pretty close to that as I only stopped twice to get more fuel. Probably only stopped for less than 6 minutes.
I don't know why so many people run rigid on their gravel bikes. A cheap as dirt coil suspension fork with 30-40 mm of travel and a cheap suspension seatpost, that's the way to go. It will help with comfort and traction.
It's either my imagination, or a number of people are bouncing up and down (every pedal stroke), wasting energy with a suspension seat post. Also.. did a lot of you run out of gears? It seems like the cadence was a bit high for some of the riders.
I noticed that as well. I don’t think those riders were on suspension seat post’s. Probably a bad bike fit in my opinion. I was thinking the same thing. All those riders you saw bouncing were in the first hour of the race, I’ll bet they ran out of energy quick, but mostly what was going through my mind was chafing, 200 miles of that has gotta leave a mark. Lol. I never ran out of gears myself, ran a 42 chainring with the sram explorer cassette in the rear. Would have run a 44 just to keep the chain line a little more centered, but it won’t fit on my bike. I think the riders you saw spun out at the beginning of the video were single speeds.
Few reasons for bouncing. Tires too much pressure, bad saddle height (not size properly) wrong tire width choice. Do people ride a mountain Bike hard tail. I would ride a hardtail bike with rigid fork some enve wheels m525 and Maxxis rekon race tires. 😅 I will still run a flat bar 750mm with and full AXS groupset. I did see someone with rim brakes. Got to love that ❤
This is trainer ride GOLD! No music, no commentary, just great video and skilled rider. Thanks for sharing!!
Haha, thanks. That’s the way I like it as well.
Thanks for uploading this, I used this for a indoor trainer session today , really good, looked tough in that mud! Well done Todd 🇺🇲🤜🏻
Thanks Stuart! Glad you enjoyed it.
How do you use this during your indoor training session?
21:42 that guy is so badass!
"Screw your gravel bikes, I'm sending it"
Lol, that fat biker is Roy Kranz. Multi time winner of Unbound 200. He would win on this day as well. He has some videos of his own. You should check them out.
Thought the same too 😂😂😂, zooms by and never seen again, like Speedy Gonzales .... Long live MTB and fat bikes!
@@thunsak06Thanks for the info!
Awesome video to do an indoor bike trainer ride (while it's sleeting outside!). I thought it was a trope, but jeez Kansas is FLAT! Keeps these videos coming, they are well done and NEVER buffer while I'm watching.
Thank you. Although it may seem “flat” in the video. I assure you, there are many hills. Nothing big, but 10k elevation gain over 200 miles. Thanks for the message.
Great ride, Todd! Thank you for uploading. It kept me company while on the couch sick today.
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Great job! Thanks for sharing. This 50+ year old will be giving it a go this year. Can't wait.
Thank you George, good luck this year. Hopefully the weather is a bit better than last year. I’ll be toeing the line again as well.
outstanding, glad to see the regular guys taking this on, I salute all that participate in any of the distances
Thank you Frank!
Thank you for this film, excellent for previewing the course, and an outstanding performance Todd, you are amazing !
Thank you Steve. I always search CZcams for videos of races I’m going too. Glad you liked it.
Great job Todd. I remember racing against you in OTH and Big Bear/Kenda Cup in SoCal several years ago. I've gotten slower and you've gotten insanely better since.
Hi David, I remember you. We had many a battle. Hope you’re doing well.
I've watched this at least 7 times already 🤣
Haha, glad you liked it. Last year before I went to Unbound I scoured CZcams looking for videos of the course. Binge watching before I went to the race.
Great ride! Thanks for putting up the video. Terrific for trainer rides. Opening for my 3rd 200 in emporia this June. Hope to see you out there!
Nice, this year will be my 3rd as well. Truly a special event.
Appreciate this upload and the effort it took to complete it! Sure is handy for a long trainer ride!
Thank you Allen. Great event, I struggled finding good videos from the race, so I decided to make one myself. Glad you enjoyed it.
Excellent bro... Finishing the race is more important.🎉🎉
Thank you Gaurav! Finishing this is no small task.
beautiful views,شكرا
Thank you!
Excelente prova parabéns a tds os organizadores, e tbm a tds os participantes.
Thank you Adeildo!
Nice ride. Super result!
Thank you!
wow, awesome video! (and awesome time!!) def gonna put this on while on the trainer next time. I should bring the gopro next year, missed the sun by a little but made the midnight club. gonna try again I think.
Thanks Kwad. I was in the Midnight Club last year. 200 miles ain’t no joke, great job getting it done!
Awesome race you did great....
Thanks Crankster!
Hey Todd, Thanks for this video. Very informative. Did you train mostly on gravel or pavement? I’d like to get in for 2023 but am hesitant because I have to travel for decent gravel, I’m in Philadelphia. Pavement is easy for me to train on. Just curious. Thanks, Jim
Thanks Jim! I would say I trained mostly on the road bike. I do have dirt roads close to home, but they involve quite a bit of climbing. So, most of my really long rides were mostly on tarmac. Unbound doesn’t require any technical skills mostly. Long straight roads for the most part.
I would do a lot of long rides on your gravel bike though, road or gravel, just to make sure you’re comfortable for all those hours in the saddle. Hopefully you get in, definitely worth the trip!
I was watching this while riding indoors and looked up your result compared to mine and saw that we had crossed paths around mile 115. Kept watching and sure enough I'm at 1:00:15 standing on the side of the road in the orange jersey taking a leak 😂😂
Lol, that's so funny! I wish I could have captured you smashing it up a hill. It's crazy that I remember so many of the riders in this video. Some I see at the very beginning and then at the very end. How we can be so close over 200 miles. Looking forward to another 200 this year.
@@thunsak06 I'll be out there somewhere for sure, good luck on spring training
Great video. Indoor training inspiration gold!!!
Well done. Fantastic result!
Thank you
Great video. feel like i am riding
Thanks Aiden, glad you enjoyed the video.
Cool video! At 17:45, are you riding through the Flint Hills? Haven't been there before, but looks like cool topography.
Thank you! Yes, this race was in the Flint Hills of Kansas. Quite stunning scenery.
200 miles, weee that is a long bicycle ride. How many folks do the ride, there seems to be a lot. Thanks for sharing ;
Thanks Fred! I believe around 1,500 riders toed the line on this day with about 2/3’s finishing the distance.
Congratulations 🎉
Thanks Antonio.
Super
DIRTY KANZA!!!
Yep!
j'admire vos paysages. c'est ça qui nous manque en france pour faire du Gravel longue distance!
Yes, it is truly beautiful out there. The video really doesn’t do it justice. It is hard to appreciate however when you’re totally gassed! Lol 😝
Nice job! I see your age at the end, and at 65 I’m inspired!
Haha, thanks! Surprisingly the upper age groups are quite large and stacked with some very fast riders.
@@thunsak06 Of course! Us older guys are just now learning how to do things well.
I’m looking for a good entry level gravel bike now (Everybody is, right??). I’m a roadie, selling my MTB stuff. Suggestions? Looking at the Trek Checkpoint ALR 6 at the moment. Seems to be a good bang for the buck. Don’t want to beat up a carbon frame on gravel just yet. In Florida so quite flat here.
Kevin, there are so many good bikes out there, Trek is one as well. I have a Specialized Diverge myself. The one thing I would recommend is a bike with enough tire clearance. My Diverge only fits 42 tires max. Went with 38’s @ Unbound and had issues with mud. I would pick a bike that would fit 47 tires so you have the comfort with the big tires but can go smaller when you need the clearance for mud.
@@thunsak06 Thank you! Went with Checkpoint. Clearance seems sufficient.
Super video and race result! I'm curious, what sort of camera setup were you using - a GoPro with an external battery?
Thanks Kevin, Hero 10 mounted below my stem, had a cable going from the GoPro into a small frame bag into an external battery. I set the GoPro to shut off after 5 minutes. When I was testing it, I would always forget to turn it off and I could never remember if it was on or off. Lol . So I could just turn it on and go about my business without worry knowing it would shut itself off. I had plenty of battery life left at the end. I recorded an hour and 55 minutes. Probably could of recorded 3 or 4 hours.
@@thunsak06- I like that idea. I'm using a Hero 8 in front and a Hero 7 in back. I'm not sure if either of those are adapted for external power. I'll have a closer look. Yes, I know what you mean about not being sure if the camera is on or off at times. I love the sky in your video with the clouds. That always seems to look more interesting than a clear blue sky. It's especially cool (I find) when recording time-lapse segments. Again, nice work with the video and your race result! 🥂
Did you just press record occasionally then?
@@eyeninja3043 - I'm not the one who recorded the video but yes, that's what he would have done.
Great video and strong finished Todd! What tires did you used on this race? Ty
Thanks hrtenk15. I was originally going to run IRC boken plus in 42's. But with the rain and mud I had to scramble to find a smaller tire for clearance. I ended up running the Panaracer Gravel King semi slick in a 38. Still didn't have enough clearance. But the tire did hold up to the Flint rock.
@@thunsak06 thanks Todd. I’m lucky to get in for the unbound gravel 200 this year and in the hunt for a good tires that can tackle the flint hills. It will be my 1st unbound.
Great video. I've been slacking the past year on training, but now I think I've gotten the proper motivation again (plus I finally got my gravel bike that I ordered in Nov 2020). How many road miles were there (approx) this year? What tires did you go with? I see a lot of Pathfinder Pros in this video - I normally run Rene Herse 42mm knobbies, but kinda want to try something else.
Dana, not many road miles. Only 5 to 6 miles tops I’d say. Unbound is all dirt. Great event and highly recommend if you get the chance. This year I ran the Panaracer gravel kings (the file tread slicks) in a 38. Only because I had to scramble to find a narrower tire due to the mud. Not a big selection in town. Was going to run IRC boken plus in a 42, which is the biggest my bike would fit. But weather forced me to change. I ran the pathfinder pro’s the year before and got a sidewall slash. I think a lot of people run them because they were the winning tire the previous 2 years. I recommend the toughest tire in the biggest size that will fit your bike.
@@thunsak06 Awesome and thanks, for some reason I thought there was a lot more road miles. In that case, I'll probably try the Rene Herse Oracle Ridge tires (48mm), that'll give me more float/comfort. You race against Paul Cha/Patrick Bos over in SoCal? I used to live in Santa Clarita and would ride with that group.
I’m not familiar with those guys. I’m more of a MTB’r so that might be why. Good luck if you get to Unbound
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hi todd, this looks like a good test of stamina, and thankyou for
sharing the `fun` i`m curious about the average speed over the
course ,or do you even bother to record stats for this event ?
😎👍
Thank you William, I do ride with a Garmin and record all the data from the ride. My average speed over the 200 miles was 16 mph. I made 2 pit stops that both took about 3 minutes each. There was also 2 muddy sections about a mile or 2 long that required some hiking. Otherwise on the gas for over 12 hours.
@@thunsak06 thanks todd, thats a fine pace in those conditions,
chapau! i`m just watching the last half hour now, and the muddy sections,
i`ve had a few miles in the saddle over a lifetime so i sincerely appreciate
the effort you put in ,i`ve competed in track cyclocross timetrials road racing and uncountable training miles at amateur/club level here in
old blighty, there`s nothing to compare with it for all round fitness,👍😊
congrats,, awesome job,What tires are you using?
Thanks Bob, I was running Gravel King semi slicks in a 38. Would’ve run bigger tires but with the mud opted for something with more clearance.
What size tires would you use for this , awesome video😊
Thank you! This race I was on 38’s only because of the mud we experienced during the day. I would much prefer a larger tire volume for this event when it’s dry. 45mm or larger.
Excellent video! Would love to see a speed and cadence meter on this one.
Much love!
Thank you @falaxuper. I haven’t figured out how to make that happen. I know it can be done, but is beyond my technical abilities. Lol
Hi Todd,,what supplement brand or solid food did you use to maintain the 100 carbs per hour ? thanks
Hi Bob, last year I was using scratch super fuel 85 grams per bottle. Scratch hydration in pack with about 20 grams per hour. Then using a mix of sis gels an a few solid energy bars. Only ate solids once every 3 hours just to help settle the tummy a bit. It takes time to train your gut to take on so much sugar for so long, but it’s necessary for these long events.
Amazing!! How does one prepare for a race like this?
Thanks! I really ramped up my time on the bike in the 2 to 3 months before the race. The last month I was doing long 6+ hours rides back to back to back. 3 days in a row on weekends. Also, practicing fueling with 100 grams of carbs an hour takes some time to adapt to.
Great thanks for sharing. What was your bike set up?
Specialized Diverge with sram force group set. Explorer 12 speed cassette. 42 chain ring. Was going to run IRC boken plus in a 42mm. But the weather forced me to scramble and find a narrower tire. Ended up with the panaracer gravelking ss+ in a 38mm. Still didn’t have enough clearance in the mud. I carried 2 bottles with 85 grams of carbs and electrolytes and a uswe 2 liter pack. 20 grams an hour of carbs and electrolytes. After the 2 bottles were done I was carrying assorted gels and bars to supplement and get to 100 grams of carbs an hour. Stopped 2 times. Eureka and Madison. Picked up the same fuel and nutrition in Eureka to get to Madison. In Madison I grabbed 3 bottles all carbs and electrolytes and some caffeine gels. Worked out perfectly.
QUESTION: How did you film this?
I had a Hero 10 mounted on the front of my stem and handle bars. Had it set to turn off after 5 minutes. So I would just hit the start button and it would record an automatically shut off after 5 minutes. Otherwise, I could never remember if it was recording or not. I also had an external battery pack in a frame bag with the wire going up to the GoPro. Otherwise the normal battery would only last about 50 minutes.
Nice.
Thanks!
Excuse my ignorance was it a 200 mile race? well done!
205 miles
@@thunsak06 Cheers thank's.
at 45:10 good job thru that mud spot. Hope you finished. Average Speed? Moving Time and total time? or will the ending tell all... ?
1:20:12 good grief. Some Great Gravel Race.... mud junction
Thank you. I averaged 16 mph with an elapsed time of 12 hours 38 minutes. Moving time was probably pretty close to that as I only stopped twice to get more fuel. Probably only stopped for less than 6 minutes.
🎉
Thank you!
I don't know why so many people run rigid on their gravel bikes. A cheap as dirt coil suspension fork with 30-40 mm of travel and a cheap suspension seatpost, that's the way to go. It will help with comfort and traction.
You’re probably right @ritchyrich1076. Although most of the roads are fairly smooth, there’s a case for being as light as possible.
It's either my imagination, or a number of people are bouncing up and down (every pedal stroke), wasting energy with a suspension seat post. Also.. did a lot of you run out of gears? It seems like the cadence was a bit high for some of the riders.
I noticed that as well. I don’t think those riders were on suspension seat post’s. Probably a bad bike fit in my opinion. I was thinking the same thing. All those riders you saw bouncing were in the first hour of the race, I’ll bet they ran out of energy quick, but mostly what was going through my mind was chafing, 200 miles of that has gotta leave a mark. Lol.
I never ran out of gears myself, ran a 42 chainring with the sram explorer cassette in the rear. Would have run a 44 just to keep the chain line a little more centered, but it won’t fit on my bike. I think the riders you saw spun out at the beginning of the video were single speeds.
@@thunsak06 I saw a lot of riders spinning out at higher speeds. They were either single speeds or running 1x.
Yeahh
Yeah, the early butt bouncing and pelvis rocking were painful to watch. Todd, I agree, a poor bike fit ... and lack of quality coaching.
What did the rider lose at 43:44?
I didn’t notice that when I was riding, but it looks like he dropped a sleeve of Cliff Blocks. He was carrying all his nutrition in his side pockets.
I can't even sit on a bike seat for more than 10 minutes these days. Wow.
Lol, ya Unbound might be a bit long for you. But you never know till you try.
hello! everyone
that fatbike zooming....
That’s Roy Kranz, he would win the Fat Bike category that day.
@@thunsak06 Not surprised at all as he was too fast.
Few reasons for bouncing. Tires too much pressure, bad saddle height (not size properly) wrong tire width choice. Do people ride a mountain Bike hard tail. I would ride a hardtail bike with rigid fork some enve wheels m525 and Maxxis rekon race tires. 😅 I will still run a flat bar 750mm with and full AXS groupset. I did see someone with rim brakes. Got to love that ❤
I did notice quite a few mtb’s with drop bars. Everybody’s got a special bike for Unbound. That’s one of the things I love about this race.
❤️❤️❤️👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Thank you!
There’s a lot of bandy legs wasting energy
Swaying hips, springy butts... esp at the beginning.
Hadn’t noticed, but now that you mentioned it……Lol
And yet they were there, were you?